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@humanbeing2009
@humanbeing2009 4 года назад
Thank you for the history and correct pronunciation of what the Haudenosaunee call themselves. I always wanted to know this.
@miketacos9034
@miketacos9034 Год назад
Oh wow, the difference of People Building the Longhouse is really an important distinction. It's not just about houses, it's about union. That is so cool!
@oskarroza
@oskarroza 3 года назад
I love the explanation given here. Some time ago I was surprised that the game I enjoy (Age of Empires 3 Definitive Edition) with its re-release (original was published in 2005, the new version in 2020) introduced the name Haudenosaunee instead of the Iroquois. Glad I've found this video as now I feel that I correctly understand the reasoning behind the cgange in the game ;)
@MicheleHG
@MicheleHG 4 года назад
Great Storyteller! Thanks, I learned a lot. Yikes! Snakes?
@rhetleonard2968
@rhetleonard2968 2 года назад
Thank you for posting this interesting and important information. It enables me to understand with more clarity some of the unresolved issues and grievances that may be hundreds of years old. Human coexistence is complicated…. My hope is that construction of the longhouse continues ☮️
@bryankreinhart
@bryankreinhart 2 месяца назад
As an Onondowaga of the Haudenosaunee, I am please to see the true history of the derogatory "Iroquois" name is being taught. To many of the Haudenosaunee, being called "Iroquois" is similar to using the "N" word. Also happy to note that he is teaching that Haudenosaunee is "People who _BUILD_ the longhouse" as even many Haudenosaunee incorrectly say people _of_ the longhouse. My people are few, but we are proud. To all my Haudenosaunee brothers and sisters, never let our traditions die but to carry on in the next generations.
@GretchenHewitt
@GretchenHewitt Год назад
OH MY GOODNESS, THANK YOU! Finally I have gotten the correct explanation of the origin of "Iroquois".
@FranklinNewhart
@FranklinNewhart 3 месяца назад
He needs to correct himself in the reference to Mohawk. This is another bad word from others to refer to my tribe. We are Kanyen'kehà:ka not Mohawk.
@meatmoneymilkmonogamyequal5583
@meatmoneymilkmonogamyequal5583 3 года назад
Thank you for that knowledge!!!! wow!!! talk about lost in translation!
@BaronVonQuiply
@BaronVonQuiply Год назад
I like that metaphor of the people building the long house of peace and cooperation
@alexdenommee3219
@alexdenommee3219 Год назад
Same goes for Sioux, meaning "Snakes in the Grass", which was a colonial term as well. Iroquois being considered "snakes" as well, which was a colonial term. These terms were used due to the fact that the colonials would abuse trade agreements, etc (like how the elite do now) and then blame the Natives after the colonials had basically broke trade agreements, even after scamming and ripping the Natives of their home, and their heritage. It's weird how racial terms are accepted as norms in some contexts, and misinterpreted in other contexts.
@ericgideon9237
@ericgideon9237 3 года назад
Great explanation
@ritochkabasaev
@ritochkabasaev 3 года назад
Thank u aoe3 for recommend me that video
@Buckles_thebeaver
@Buckles_thebeaver Год назад
I'm descendant from the Basque and these people 😮
@torrawel
@torrawel Год назад
Leuk! Nice! By the way, we also don't call ourselves "Dutch" 😂 Bloody English people! 😂 So yeah... Giving the wrong names to other peoples is quite common...
@delphine2798
@delphine2798 3 года назад
wow, thank you so much!
@staciecarverd8136
@staciecarverd8136 9 месяцев назад
Love this! As a descendant of the Mohawk, I have missed the opportunity to learn about our culture -- for many reasons, beyond my ancestors not being about to teach and assure culture and traditions were passed along. This is but a start, as brief as it was, it's a start.
@goobertsnoobert9015
@goobertsnoobert9015 3 месяца назад
Fellow descendant of the Kanien’kehà:ka here… I feel u sis
@brodieelliott7556
@brodieelliott7556 Год назад
Our House is Already built. If anything it's called adding to the rafters.
@Makedonac007
@Makedonac007 Год назад
Every dollar 🌞 🌳 That sweet piece 🦘 Amen
@RickImus
@RickImus Год назад
Engaging presentation by Mr Ground. This is changing, but currently Iroquois is simply easier to pronounce than Haudenasaunee.
@escofhari
@escofhari Год назад
Hodinoshawnee pronunciation
@tammytate579
@tammytate579 3 года назад
Good on everyone who offered only love in their comments.
@gansobravo8931
@gansobravo8931 2 года назад
Eu sou brasileiro essa semana eu estava conversando com minha tia avó de 85 anos e ela me disse que a família da mãe dela era iroque , perguntei a ela oque era isso , se era uma cidade daqui do Brasil e ela não soube me responder , só disse que a mãe dela dizia que eram iroque , ela perdeu sua mãe ainda criança então não tem mais informação ,achei interessante sabendo que eu já tenho sangue indígena brasileiro.
@gibbons1955
@gibbons1955 5 месяцев назад
Unity ❤
@Nevermore1816
@Nevermore1816 4 года назад
I am currently writing a short history paper about Nekumonta saving his wife, Shanewis. Any guidance on pronunciation of their names?
@centillion1684
@centillion1684 6 месяцев назад
11:39 AM Mar 21 2∅24
@cardisinn5097
@cardisinn5097 2 года назад
Love it!!!
@zaindershabazz5583
@zaindershabazz5583 2 года назад
I'm born and raised in Onondaga ny 10/14/1976
@jcclarkeru
@jcclarkeru 3 года назад
This is great!
@susanconstantdrake7189
@susanconstantdrake7189 2 года назад
I do live in Hardin Valley
@doxholiday1372
@doxholiday1372 3 года назад
I like how other Indians called them snakes, but the French get blamed for it because the translation they used became popular.
@tammytate579
@tammytate579 3 года назад
I have decided you are Bridget. Hi Bridget, nice to meet you.
@Scalara9
@Scalara9 2 года назад
"other indians"... you're literally watching a video teaching you the correct way to refer to our peoples and you're gonna go back to using indian? in case you are unaware, the people who discovered all the nations on NA thought we were East Indians and, since we looked brown, they just kept calling us that and bc no one has given enough of a shit to change it, we are still called that. Indigenous is preferred when referring to more than one indigenous nation. We are not from India. tyvm But yes. Other nations called us snakes and the French never went to our people and said "hey, what do you call yourselves?" and just called us a word with a unkind meaning rather than take the time to learn cuz we all look brown so we must all be the same right??? so yes, the French, also my ancestors too, get blamed for their inconsideration.
@nickb3164
@nickb3164 2 года назад
@@Scalara9 to be fair to the OP, many natives do prefer the term "american indian"
@samanthamonaghan7579
@samanthamonaghan7579 Год назад
Mohawk is a bad word though, it means man eater or canibal (the better word is people of the flint) Kanienʼkéha
@diegoarmando5489
@diegoarmando5489 3 года назад
Iroquois is the word that I learned in school as a child. I still use it sometimes because it survives in linguistics. I suspect this to be the case because not all indigenous people who speak "Iroquois" languages are from the Haudenosaunee Confederacy.
@Scalara9
@Scalara9 2 года назад
Most people who speak languages from the Haudenosaunee are either linguists/historians with a little knowledge of the languages or elderly old enough to remember the language. The languages are almost dead... only a few of the later generations have learned the languages and they are not likely to survive many more generations. "Iroquois" survives because the people that called us that were the majority and the ones writing history books. We were forcibly torn from our cultures for 100s of years and assimilated. There's maybe 81,000 of all 6 Haudenosaunee nations in NA. and most of us were not raised with our culture.
@erinkeaton5158
@erinkeaton5158 2 года назад
@@Scalara9 not true. at least at Akwesasne, they have had a vibrant Mohawk language immersion school since the 70's. Many many of the younger generations are being educated into the language. My grandfather never spoke it, though he was born on St. Regis. (he was taken to boarding school, then had to leave the rez as a teen :(
@napoleonbonaparte9227
@napoleonbonaparte9227 3 года назад
I'm Portuguese and we call you iroquees
@azulmarino1359
@azulmarino1359 3 года назад
i thought you were napoleon
@solveiglandvikbrg9103
@solveiglandvikbrg9103 3 года назад
@@azulmarino1359 Ha ha ha !!! 😁 😅 😂
@tammytate579
@tammytate579 3 года назад
I'm Heinz 57, and I call you rattu rattu. 😏
@gansobravo8931
@gansobravo8931 2 года назад
Essa semana minha tia avó me contou que a mãe dela dizia que eles eram de família iroque , achei que ela teria se enganado que talvez seria Iraque kk pesquisei sobres os iroques e cheguei até aqui , pra mim até que fez sentido oque ela disse , ela já tem 85 anos e perdeu a mãe ainda criança , então só oque ela soube me dizer foi isso.
@thinktank2255
@thinktank2255 Год назад
I wish that people, especially European Americans, would pronounce Iroquois correctly. 😂 @ 1:58
@Escumbuit77
@Escumbuit77 2 года назад
"Iroquois" comes from Algonquin and it means in most cases "VERMIN", a dirty word ;-). "Real snakes" is only one translation.
@stormking7763
@stormking7763 5 лет назад
Is it true that the Haudenosaunee offered the Dutch settlers of New Amsterdam a tribal membership?
@MilesDei95
@MilesDei95 2 года назад
so you are just american vikings xd sweet :D
@tammytate579
@tammytate579 3 года назад
The bigotry on this thread would make Columbus proud. 😒
@escofhari
@escofhari Год назад
He means ‘black snakes’ Iroquois
@Flammenhagel
@Flammenhagel 2 года назад
"us" what a joke
@makewarnomore
@makewarnomore 3 года назад
beating up on the Lenne Lanape its no wonder "the river Indians"("Delaware")didnt like yall.
@tammytate579
@tammytate579 3 года назад
You seem like a Karen to me. Hi Karen, nice to meet you. ✌️💜🌈
@VitorEmanuelOliver
@VitorEmanuelOliver 3 года назад
Last time I checked there were at least 4 theories to the origin and meaning of the term Iroquois. There's no absolute consensus on what exactly it means and where it came from. You can't take this explanation as absolute truth
@tammytate579
@tammytate579 3 года назад
I think imma call you Frank. Hi Frank, nice to meet you. 😏
@krisvalentine9331
@krisvalentine9331 2 года назад
Unless you are a member of the Haudenosaunee, your opinion on this truly doesn't matter. The Haudenosaunee don't find the word iroquois to be representative of their people, thus we will not use it. End of story.
@VitorEmanuelOliver
@VitorEmanuelOliver 2 года назад
@@krisvalentine9331 Where did u see someone insisting on saying Iroquois? Learn to read the words for what they actually mean. Fake news and complex matters are just what they are, you don't spread false information even with the best of intentions at heart, it's still wrong. My opinion doesn't matter, agreed, facts do. And the fact is: the origin of the term Iroquois is not certain. That's my only criticism
@Thorenhard
@Thorenhard 2 года назад
@@krisvalentine9331 how can you miss the point this much
@cashcleaner
@cashcleaner 2 года назад
@@krisvalentine9331 Cool story, bro? 🤷‍♂️
@iyizjewelsisley3821
@iyizjewelsisley3821 3 года назад
This is not true there not friends look at the truth.
@iyizjewelsisley3821
@iyizjewelsisley3821 3 года назад
@Captain Canuck are you native
@groovenpeace4654
@groovenpeace4654 3 года назад
Why 2 years this bull rap still being pushed he need to stop doubling up on the lies.
@claudiacaceres2580
@claudiacaceres2580 4 года назад
this guy looks white
@narki2619
@narki2619 4 года назад
Without seeing your picture I can say you look ignorant
@kilipaki87oritahiti
@kilipaki87oritahiti 3 года назад
So because he doesn’t fit your stereotypical racist view of what an indigenous person should look like according to Hollywood, and western movies, he’s suddenly white? The eastern woodland tribes of the east coast where the 1st ones in North America that met the 1st European settlers. It’s also been 500 years of genocide, slavery, and colonialism and ongoing. Also you can’t expect people in 2021 to look like how they did back in the 1600’s and onwards. Change of lifestyle, diet, climate, fashion as well assimilation and globalism has had it’s impact on what they look like today vs their pre/colonial ancestors. Regardless of his appearance it’s an insult that you as a white person makes such un called for racist claims about an indigenous person, like you devalue and doubt his nativeness. Just another form of colonialism and imperialistic way of thinking, even racist! You never hear: “he looks brown” about any white person, but as soon as a POC doesn’t look “token minority” enough, they are suddenly white therefor not really native. And if not really native it justifies your racist views, the theft of land, genocide of 100 million First Nation people since the coming of the white man to the Americas, and illegal immigration!
@theAEDan
@theAEDan 3 года назад
Yea that’s what I was thinking. I think he has a bit of native in him, but I don’t think it constitutes the majority
@eugenemcgloin6780
@eugenemcgloin6780 3 года назад
Well, 250 Years, or so, of inter-cultural contact and marriage can have that effect.
@ansettwise0005
@ansettwise0005 3 года назад
Living in an air-conditioned house is enough to make any race of people looks white.
@groovenpeace4654
@groovenpeace4654 3 года назад
He talking about his own people he ain't one of us you would never be indigenous like the indigenous , stop telling lies by fitting your description in it over with the lies and the games quit it.
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