IS A HEBREW POEM HIDDEN WITHIN THE MORMON CHARACTORS? 

John, I am so very impressed by your comments. I've thought about it all day, at least since you wrote it. I believe there is a special place in the heart of the Lord for the person who recognizes his faults and struggles for a lifetime to overcome them. Some of the people I love the most are individuals who have gone down this path. The pain they suffer, if they are truly sincere in their desire to overcome, is excruciating and unimaginable to those who don't suffer their spiritual handicap. As a very young bishop in the 1960s it was necessary to excommunicate a young woman because of her inability to overcome a critical sin. I hope I'm not at fault for saying that a few years later when I was a bishop again in another ward and city a letter came from the president of the twelve apostles who was praying over whether it would be best at that time for her to be readmitted into membership. I noticed the poorly placed lettering on the letter (from an old non-electric typewriter) and knew it was not typed by a stenographer but by the apostle himself (who was later President of the Church). I know he wrote such private letters himself. Later came a phone call; he was struggling to do the right thing for her and her alone. He never met her but I felt his intense love for her as a struggling sinner. Critics have absolutely no idea of the love and fasting and prayer that the prophets engage in to find the Lord's answer to these kinds of needs. That ignorance and abuse is so deplorable and sad. Please take heart and know you are very, very special to God and to Christ. You have never been forgotten for an instant. God bless you.

John, there is a new video put up today but poorly titled and promoted. It is titled "What is it that is hidden within the caractors" on my channel. I think it might be helpful to some degree.

You and I are the same age. We are still young enough to change, turn to God and have a fruitful, gospel centered life!

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Thank you Mark.

OH, my gosh, you are right. At the moment I said that something seemed wrong but it didn't register to me to think it through. Mistakes like that undermine trust in the content. My apologies.

Glad you caught that Good for you

Thank you for sharing that valuable information as well.

those are phoenican not demotic they copyed the Egyptians the book Mormom states they follow the tradion of there forefathers slaves in Egypt who followed moses there number 3 is again

@@rickyodom1201 Well, Jerry Grover translated them, and says he used Hieratic and Demotic Egyptian dictionaries in his free online book. And whether it was Demotic or Hieratic depended on which took up less space. So you'll have to debate that with him.

Thank you for considering it. There are so many things like this. Fifty years ago I wrote out a list of 1,000 things that appeared to give credence to the Book of Mormon. At the time I assumed that some of them would fade with time and some would eventually be shown to literally be false. The list is long lost but I know of none of those factors that have diminished in significance. This is remarkable to me but not proof. The only proof comes from the Spirit of God.

Right, the actual Anthon Transcript contained not only Book of Mormon characters from the plates, but also had an English translation with it, and Anthon had indicated the translation provided was correct. However, this is certainly another transcription of characters from the plates and it is quite interesting that a chiastic structure can be seen in them.

@@toddgiberson4330 Yep, and Anthon himself wrote that the transcript was vertical lines of characters with a large circle like the famous Mexican calendar of Von Humboldt.

Pretty powerful

Glad you enjoyed it!

Wonderful question! With things as monumental as the Book of Mormon there come to be many stories and representations of what might have been or what are purported to be artifacts from the event. So it is that there are differing documents or papers claimed to be authentic, such as the Anthon transcript or Characters Document. It is therefore significant when one has within it some evidence or suggestion of identity. This is one of the points of the parallel poetry found in the document shown here which aligns with the identical type inverted parallel or chiastic poems discussed in this video. The finding of such forms seems to suggest that this is the "real thing." But it is not absolute proof in itself.

That is the bottom line of all bottom lines. Thank you.

That is an excellent question; why haven't we sent the document to the University of Chicago? In fact, someone probably has or someone will. The problem is that the last author in the book, Moroni, explained that the language that he and others wrote in had been changed from its Egyptian source. (Mormon 9:32) There would surely be some trace elements but it might not be that easy. Some students of Egyptian languages have worked on translation of the document but I don't believe there has yet been a concensus in their interpretations. Good thought!

Thank you for your comment. I don't know. It seems as though there are multiple meanings and depths of meanings within many scriptural passages. Right now so many come to mind. And sadly, we are readers and believers end up debating the "correct" meaning as we see it. Again, passage after passage flashes in my mind but in many I just don't know enough to say with any authority. I find it best to keep my mouth unopened and wait for the answer.

Isn't that an interesting thought! His words, often criticized, were more well thought out than ours, I suspect.

Thank you for pointing that out. They have both worked many years on the study of parallelism in scripture and have contributed greatly to knowledge of the subject.

I never want to take away or diminish the work and discoveries of the finest scholars.

That is the first question I would ask myself. If you send me an email (cwadebrown2024@gmail.com) I will try to send you a copy of the data given the statisticians. Thanks for the question.

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Matt, I don't know who wrote it or how it came to be. I wouldn't risk my life on it. I personally don't have confidence in Professor Anthon's description of the document because of his general attitude concerning Joseph Smith, the restoration or his meeting with Martin Harris. His memory of it or the transmission of his memory is questionable, even suspect, to me. Had he seen representations of the Egyptian symbols pertaining to the Book of Abraham? It seems to be associated with Joseph Smith and has symbols on it that are odd to us but found in advertisements used to promote the sale of the first edition of the Book of Mormon. It also seems to have repetition of symbols which are characteristic of Hebrew parallelism. Do you think it might be the fraudulent work of anti-Mormonism to disrupt the work, or the idle scribbling of some believing person during the life of the prophet? Or could it be the work of an early saint who felt inspired to duplicate the real document? It has to be someone's creation and have some purpose. I am open to your thoughts and I respect your viewpoint. What do you feel it might be?

Robert, yes it does, basically. Verification? What do you mean, peer reviewed or academically approved? A few years after the book was published a very fine scholar published his text on the same subject and his book has become the standard. I've thought about a video on the subject because I've spent years advancing my own thoughts. Don't plan to ever publish it but it might be interesting to show parts if anyone is interested. It isn't approached as traditional stone cut cold word parallels but strangely, as almost a music form. For me creates a beautifully fluid melodic experience rather than a series of unattached mechanical blocks and borders. That idea would ruin it for everyone to consider but I finally realized that personally it is not just a traditional academic series of diagrams and numbers. For me it is a "Divine Symphony in Words." The patterns and rhythms ring in my ears. In reading the text I sometimes feel as though I am back in a violin section playing classic music. I love to see and hear and feel the patterns, the rhythms, the melodies, the points and counter points. I think and hope it has an eternal element to it. Hope I haven't said too much.

0:03 thank you for your reply. By versification I meant the LDS chapters and verses marked on the pages. I found your book sold online it has pictures of a couple of pages and I see the verses are on the running headers on each page. This book looks amazing with a lot of love and beauty. I so appreciate your reply and it is apparent just how much work has gone into such a wonderful book. Thanks again for your videos ❤

I've recently reviewed his work more thoroughly and appreciate the intensive study he has done. Far beyond any capacity I have in relation to translation. So I have no judgement as to it but sure do respect his devotion and conviction. Amazing dedication!

Isn't that interesting!

Just look to the word "atonement" in the Book of Mormon. No other literature matches or exceeds the illumination of grace/atonement/mercy demonstrated in this record.

I don't know! But to think Moroni or Mormon or another ancient Nephite prophet inscribed in on a metal plates puts chills in y spine.

I don't know how we can know for sure, given the variation in their various accounts, In every day life a chance observation can become solid rock authority yet be a "mis-thought". So difficult to authenticate memories of day to day events--at least for me. I'm often wrong in a place or time recollection. I just don't know.

That is the simpliest, most eloquent response a person can give.

Mr. Price, I appreciate your thought and comment on the subject. I'm also thankful to live in a country where we can hold our religions to be important and vital to our lives. May God bless you in your dedication to HIm.