Is a NATO-Russia war inevitable? | DW News Desk 

Russia is already at war with NATO in many domains. NATO however is still complacent and failing to react to this fact.

As an half American and half European I advise you to create European Union Defense Forces separately from NATO even if you remain in NATO!

The last part of the conversation really went over the top, NATO into Asia? Are you crazy or on something 😂😂

NATO with US and NATO without US is a different ball game.

With this kind of policies and media we are goose stepping into a big conflict.

We're F'd...

1:00:00 Factually incorrect, Canada is not European and is a member of NATO. Georgia is located in Asia and has been promised by NATO to be admitted in the future.

There was a time when Putin asked to join NATO. 😂

Lets not wait.

It would seem the answer to the thumbnail question is completely up to Russia. Russia is the one who struggles with getting along nicely with others.

Terry Schulz mentioned that the Baltic countries have been under Russian/Soviet control once. That is not correct as they were part of the Russian empire for various length of time and acheived independence after WW1. Then these countries came under Soviet control during WW2 and only gained their independence again after the collapse of the Soviet Union.

Yes, eventually. When ? No one knows exactly, but it will surely come. Just an opinion, reading all these news of wars/ tensions.

The final countdown😂

Jade McGlynn is really outstanding. Thank You DW for having her on again!!!

Oh come on get someone with balls into this discussion 😂😂😂

very good insight from both guests and well put questioning , Thanks very much. Slava Ukraine

Who is Suicidal ?! EU, OR RUSSIA OR NATO ?? OR ALL ?

Simply put, your discussions will not change the ground situation or the political discourse. Just that you are leaving a meeting room and speaking to the cameras. However, you stopped using the Russian version and instead tried a more Western version. Nothing good came from the debate hearings.

Jade you are smart, lovely and talented. I value your analysis. Please use a proper microphone, not an ambient mic so we never miss a word you speak.

When did war between NATO and Russia become a survivable option?

I need to confess that I fall in love when I saw Mr Jade McGlynn😍😍😍

Admiral Rob Bauer says: "If they attack us. We're not seeking any conflict." Meanwhile French, British and American missiles are already attacking Russian soil, operated by technicians from those countries. So in summary, we're not seeking any war, we're just attacking them, and as long as they don't attack us back, there will be no war.

This will not be fought with an army

yes.

Very good. Thanks! When can we expect the episode about the war in Gaza?

Geez, this woman was mumbling and stumbling over her own words.

if it is up to you... yes...

The western world was all too eager to their swords to plowshares, even when historical evidence and unchanged human nature.

as marinetti said, "war the only hygene of the world"

Кружки у DW, конечно, красивые, но главное такую не уронить. У меня точно такая же с Саратовом.

Russia knows only strength and also whether or not they have out played you in the chess game! That’s why not reacting but acting forces them to change plans!

I would say number one

Cannot understand jade

Ukraine war just shows the weakness of Russia and NATO: Russia is not that scary and powerful and NATO is not ready to confront Russia if 1 of the NATO country is attacked (not including the USA)

Please stop clicking that ball pen.

I think nato may expand more but have to drop the moving of any kind of weapons to the new members until they were attached unnecessary

EU also don't think Russia will invade Ukraine. Only because of NATO arrogance

They should choose their gender first.🤦‍♂️🤦‍♀️

First they will take Manhattan than they will take Berlin. Also one part of Bulgaria that one where Bulgarian nerd living.😂😂😂😂😂

I’m watching from Canada. In my view Europe should change its provocative behavior towards Russia. In addition Europe should ease pressure on Canada to raise its military budget.

The west vs the rest of the world

A war with NATO would have a very bad outcome for Putin. His joke army could not even take Kiev.

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Russia has said clearly (Peskov's words) that Russian borders are there, where west puts them. So there are no such thing as enough for Russia

I always thought NATO stood for keeping the peace through successful treaty. But here we are! I would like to hear from the Ukrainian separatists. They are the only group who do not have a personal voice or presence anywhere here. What is NATO's attitude to them?

Doesnt matter how well the Russian war machine is equipped, if the people who are suppose to handle those war machine are not on the same page as Putin, then that war machine is futile.

1:09:10 forgetting india

Need to have to stay away from this to make peace

Bla bla bla…..

Spoiler Alert. It's not Putin who's pushing for WW3.

The first guest seems know what Putin wants. Could be a good mouth piece.

You are seeking conflict And you are going to get a vicious one indeed

Why cuba is still paying the price from the action it took decades ago??? And Ukraine gonna pay the price for same reason😢😢😢😢😢😢😢😢😢😢

For my opinion NATO is supplying fire, at the same time,they say they are not in war who is fooling now😢

I feel bad for the brown brother stuck in between all of this. I hope he wakes up and chooses to move to more intellectual citizens clea. Bless you my bearded brown brother

By whatever margins Russia is superior to Ukraine, economically and militarily (without western supplies), NATO is superior to Russia, only by 10x. 6x the population 18x the economy 3x man strength (current military) Technologically & production capacity (war economy), Russia is no match.

The guest is an educated Tommy Lahren. The world needs more of this.

No criminal that would be west and Ukrainian

Up to Putin

well keep expanding NaTo and then acting like ukraine is part of nato we get closer and closer

I'm confused. I thought NATO was a group that helps each other like a treaty like we all help each other out. I don't know what NATO is I guess I'll Google it.

The only thing inevitable is repetition of 1917-1924 in Russia.

Russia may be spending 7% of their GDP on military equipment, but their GDP itself is now largely made up of military production. They are a war economy. I'm not sure this 7% computes.

China is main beneficiary

NATO cannot defeat …bcoz India Russia china Iran North Korea axis formation …u can never fight against them

Yes ,we have to wait for : good weather ,American election ,French election ,Ukraine fall ,....someone to build defense industry ,someone to give as trained army ....

This guest is pro-Russia.

What makes NATO win Russia? The experience in Iraq and Afghan?

Given how poorly the war in Ukraine has been going for Russia, I'm not sure how Russia would expect to benefit from actually attacking any Nato countries, especially in any kind of large-scale attack. That being said, being prepared, and having well prepared military defenses, such as air defense systems, and ground forces who would be able to make any attack significantly more difficult, seems like a good idea. Russia is still more likely to try taking territory in some areas if they think that it would be relatively easy to take and hold it, especially if they think that they could somehow use it as some sort of bargaining leverage. They may also try to use the threat of attacking as some kind of bargaining leverage, though I don't think that would be a very good idea, or work very well.

Indonesia 🇮🇩♥️ Russia 🇷🇺

1 vs. 30+ lololllssssss

NATO is a banana army😅😅😅

Enemies until Putin's gone 😔💔

No, how old Putin? He can't live forever.

What about India and how the role they are playing. Is NATO going to take any action with India.

You gotta get comfortable with living rough. Erase all the worst parts of being civilized, but keep the best.😎

Ask why Germany still use russias energy? Make isotope analysis from your gas. Or oil.

Trump is saying he wants to pull the USA out of NATO... ❤ MAGA 2024!!!

I live in hawaii. So there's a lot of foreign businesses that is happening. Particularly from china. I think we should just focus on stopping All foreign businesses that are connected with China or russia. Not Japan cuz I love Japan. And Japan poses no threat to america. Because they don't have an army. They're brilliant and wonderful in every way. Anyway we should just focus on all the Chinese businesses and foreign businesses if you shut those down and just give them to the local Hawaiian people americans. Then it would help our economy also it would hurt them to make them think what they're trying to do towards america. Just stop doing business and not giving them land on American soil. That would totally work by the way.. and then also if you take out their satellite. It'll stop them from trying to mess with us cyber attacks and all that jazz. You can make a weapon that looks like a meteorite that oops accidentally hit their satellite there it goes oopsy. Little take some time to repair.

Containment and patience, only safe way now. Think North Korea but maybe more active.

War should be stopped it is now favour of any countries.but some countries do not want stop it due to some personal objectives.but both countries should realise that war is not good for both countries because both countries are solders are dying & civilian too.

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Thanks to NATO for pushing to Russia's doorstep. An organisation looking for a purpose and promptly created one.

terest nato got used to atacking countries that can't hit back , this time tho we see these 32 nato countries " usa and its vasals " keep barking and whining while ukraine keep advancing towards poland cause terest nato only understands the language of strength 🤗

I dont think EU can win the war.

NATO: Expands eastward. Russia: Please don't! NATO: It's our policy, can't help it. :-) Russia: But you're risking war! NATO: We're a DEFENSIVE alliance with DEFENSIVE missiles and DEFENSIVE military bases. Russia: But we don't want your missiles on our border. Get out please! NATO: We didn't force anyone to join, they wanted to join themselves! Now we'll expand more. Russia: You've crossed the line! I'm done with talking! NATO: YOU SEE?! You're so bad! This is why we have been surrounding you for the past 25 years!

Everyone forgets that NATO was created because of a security threat from the Soviet Union after WW2. The Soviet Union helped Germany in WW2.

NATO is already at war against Russia but Russia is not at war against NATO which means Russians are getting killed with NATO weapons but NATO still keeps a distance which it cannot be hurted. Once this balance changes, it will be unreturnable and it will really hurt.

Visit Russia, meet its people, they want to live like most people do. No Putin no more oligarcas and Russia will have peace and turn to Europe, were it belongs.

NATO aggression has made Russia think that NATO intends to destroy it eventually anyway. So if NATO is willing to go to such extremes over Ukraine, so is Russia. They had to draw the line somewhere.

A lot of Russian bots here in comment section. Not surprised.

Russia has war with Ukraine, and the whole europe started war against them. It is very strange

No, it's not inevitable but keep repeating all the same mistakes as you did in 1939 and it might be

Russia has been living from selling oil and gas to Europe. From that it got rich in the last 20 years. Since the wold is moving slowly to a green transition, that financial income from oil and gas will drop. The green transition is only possible, if there is enough raw earth/Lithium. Both of it is available in Ukraine. Besides that, Ukraine has very fertile soil for agriculture. It supplies Europe, Africa and China with food. The agricultural land of Russia is very poor. At the Soviet time Ukraine supplied food for the whole of Russia. It was called the food basket of Russia. Russia's demography is strongly in decline. A Russian women gives only 1,2 children in state of a 2,1 to keep the population at an equal level. Now to ransack Ukraine and steal their children is just what their imperialistic mind is telling them to do. Russian leadership never cared about any human values. Not for their own people and surly not for the west, which they consider as bad and uncultured. I am born and grow up in Austria, but I lived and worked for a period of time in Ukraine and in Russia.

❤❤❤ .......... face the facts....if NATO could not find ore create a perceived enemy.... there was no need for it to exist.....and lots of heroes would become unemployed ❤❤❤

Go ahead and call me racist, but this guy host is annoying, he seems dismissive of European/American security, but it adamant about arguing for SE Asia & defends gross Indian etc behavior. Some people haven’t sacrificed anything for western security/prosperity, and will likely never step up to defend the country when need comes about, or will they serve dual loyalties…

Zelensky didn't try to prevent the conflict through diplomacy because he lacks honor and integrity. In 2014 there was a coup. Soon after, there was a massacre in Odessa (dozens of people were burned alive). Ethnic Russians living in Ukraine were treated as subhuman. Their language and culture was being oppressed. A civil war broke out due to the rise in ethnic tensions. For 8 years the Ukrainian military was indiscriminately shelling civilians living in Donbas. If Zelensky honored the Minsk agreement and pledged neutrality, none of this would have happened. The 8 year civil war would have ended and Donbas would have remained part of Ukraine. War is the ultimate failure of diplomacy. Zelensky admitted that Ukraine had no intention to honor the Minsk agreements. Who didn't want peace? Who advised against the 2022 peace talks in April? Hint: someone visited Zelensky in Kiev at that time. Russia's national security was compromised once NATO began to expand eastwards. Russia clearly stated that Ukraine joining NATO was a red line (November 2021) and unfortunately this concern was never taken seriously. The Russians openly stated: if nothing changes, we will be forced to act in order to defend our national security. Enhancing the national security of one country at the expense of another is unacceptable. The Russians have legitimate security concerns. 20th September, 2021. Ukraine launched military drills with US and NATO. NATO is not a defensive alliance. NATO illegally bombed Yugoslavia (a direct violation of the U.N. Charter). We should never forget what they did to Libya, Afghanistan, Iraq etc. Who blew up the pipeline causing an environmental disaster? Zelensky banned all opposition and arrested a leading priest. Zelensky tried to invoke article 5 under false pretenses. Remember the incident in Poland. Ethnic Russians living in Ukraine were treated as subhuman. Their language and culture was being oppressed. Poroshenko said, “Our children will go to schools and kindergartens-theirs will hide in the basements”. Russians will never forget the 2014 Odessa massacre. The whole world needs to know about it. Why was Denis Kireev eliminated? He was a member of Ukraine's negotiating team during the peace negotiations. He wanted to help his country. Ukraine has a hit list. They target artists, journalists and ordinary citizens. Hundreds of children are on this list. 13 year old Faina Savenkova was placed on this list. Pink Floyd's Roger Waters is on this list. Jimmy Dore (American stand-up comedian, podcaster) and Aaron Maté (Canadian writer and journalist) are on this list. There is evidence that Ukrainian troops have been indiscriminately shelling civilians in Donbas (they used petal mines and targeted areas where there was no military presence). The azov troops trapped in the azovstal steelworks in Mariupol used human shields. They refused to allow civilians to leave despite of humanitarian corridors being present. Russia held a proposed cease fire in order for the civilians to leave, but azov would not allow the civilians to leave. Ukraine has committed many acts of terrorism (car bombs and other forms of assassination). Darya Dugina (journalist) R.I.P. The first terrorist attack on the Kerch bridge killed the truck driver and the individuals in the adjacent car (innocent civilian victims). The second terrorist attack on the Kerch bridge killed two parents and severely injured their young daughter. I have done a lot of research and it took me a long time to write this comment. I have stated a lot of facts and I have given my honest opinion. I have provided a brief summary of events that took place. In order to explain this whole situation in great detail, a book would need to be written. Hopefully someone will write an UNBIASED book, stating facts and allowing the readers to form their own judgments. Everything I said can be fact checked and verified...

Oh yeah be prepared have a plan a b c d e f g. It's good to be prepared. For any scenario. I think that it would be great if you made like a video game to prepare for any scenario. And people could just sit down and make a whole bunch of strategic planning.

I feel bad for the brown brother stuck in between all of this. I hope he wakes up and chooses to move to more intellectual citizens clea. Bless you my bearded brown brother