Is a relationship with a narcissist or a psychopath worse? 

I remember reading "not every narcissist is a psychopath but every psychopath is a narcissist." From personal experience of being on the receiving end of both narcissists and psychopaths I'd say psychopaths are worse as they are beyond ruthless and go that step further than the narcissist. Thanks for this video Dr Ramani ☀️

Every narcissist I’ve met I felt like they are a psychopath! So I don’t want to ever meet either ever again!

Unfortunately, I’ve experienced both. The narcissist was worse for me because it’s more of a mind f. The psychopath is more clear cut. It’s clearly evil.

The difference between a psychopath and a narcissist is that psychopaths have patience, narcissists don’t.

The “not caring” aspect of the psychopathic person is what makes them worse. Not that the narcissist is empathic, or caring, but they do care about their image

The psychopath I dated was far worse than any narc I've been with. He had no fear in the world and literally had the most shallow emotions. Beyond the extreme charm he put on in the beginning he scared the living hell out of me after his mask slipped, there's no empathy behind it whatsoever. I could sense the danger...

The psychopath is far worse to the degree that when you've been living with one then moved to a relationship with a covert narcissist, it feels like heaven in comparison.

Narcissists are the worst. A higher level psychopath may kill you instantly to get to where they need to be. But a narcissist will unnecessarily put you through endless suffering before they finally destroy you.

I have a psychopathic father and a narcissistic mother, give me 5 narcissists in parallel versus a single psychopath. Those beings are not human, they look like the devil when their mask falls off at 100 % and they smile with their eyes lit up. If the devil existed, psychopaths are his generals and narcissists are his soldiers. For me the narcissist is the human version of the psychopath, the psychopath has nothing human but the body.

I have known at least two psychopaths. One is in prison. The other should be but ironically is in law enforcement! A psychopath is truly dangerous. A narc can be too but psychopathic evil is inate!

I think the relationship with a narcissist is worse because the abuse is more subtle and complex, the personality itself is way more complicated to understand in my opinion, which leaves you wondering "is this person really that bad or am I overreacting?". With a psychopath, once you figure it out you figure it out.

The psychopath is what I'm gonna go with. They turn scary into terrifying 😳

My dad is a psychopath and my ex wife is a narcissist. I left both relationships for the sake of my own sanity.

From my experience of dealing with and growing up around both, I would say that a psychopath's harm is obvious and a narcissist's harm is more subtle. A psychopath will play on your fear and a narcissist will play on your sense of self. A narcissist will stab you in the back. A psychopath will stab you in the face.

a psychopath has all the narcissistic *qualities* and then some. I was lucky to survive. Next level callous.

The relationships with psychopaths feel like living life in a different dimmensions - hellish places - this is so true. You feel like living in a horror movie. Your description of those relationships is spot on! Thank you dr Ramani.

I've had my hair cut off in my sleep, my drinks drugged for months until I confronted them and got no reaction or response. I was told he loves the feeling of getting revenge on any one that pees him off. Was upto to him if I got to spend money or not. (when I needed something I couldn't spend). This world is getting over run by crazy people who could have done with a few hugs and a little guidance when they were younger. Love your children!

The psychopathic person in my life was waaaay worse until we got professionals involved. Actually, she fooled the professionals for a few weeks, police, cps, therapist, and addiction councillor. Then they saw how terrified her kids were of her and caught her in a lie. After that they helped us through the process. With my narcissistic mom therapists kept saying, she's your mom you should forgive her. Or now that you're healing let's get you back with your parents. It's like there was no option but to have them, unhealed, in my life. So many therapists aren't trained to help set realistic boundaries and expectations.

I would say the first sign will come from your own gut feeling which will send signal to your body telling you that this person doesn't make you feel comfortable being around him/her. The fact that you are already asking this question should alert you to be careful. Something will feel off and you won't know what it is exactly. Covert narcissists can act very charming in the beginning but there will be often also present underlying sense of superiority about them. That sense is actually deriving from them feeling insecure about themselves, so they tend to quietly degrade others in order to feel better about themselves. On the other hand if covert narcissist feels that you are above his league, he will act like your servant, trying to please you - almost annoying in a way. But make no mistake. If you decide to stay in a relationship with him, he will downgrade you and abuse you like all the others. Because in his mind, if you love him, he thinks you are unworthy of him. Covert narcissists hate themselves so if someone loves them, than they think this person is worth less than them and that they can do better. Other sign to look for is any kind of judgment towards others. If he criticises other frequently, he will more likely criticise you as well once he gets more comfortable around you. Pay attention to how he treats people that are dependent on him as well. Narcissists hate those especially if they can't get anything of of that for themselves. Moreover, Cheating in marriages is not restricted to only men. Women cheat as much as men do. If you're suspecting your wife of infidelity, you'll have to keep an eye on her of her without her knowledge of her. One of the best ways to know if your spouse cheats on social platforms is by paying close attention to how your spouse behaves while online. The signs are pretty the same. Is your spouse more time on the app without explanation and gets unnecessarily defensive when you ask about it? If your spouse behavior has changed lately, and continues to spend more time on social apps, it's time for you to take action, with the help of a private investigator (suggested; METASPYHUB@GMAIL. COM , you can find out what is taking all their time on social apps, who they are talking to and other things happening,,

My ex seems to have been a combination of both flavors. Cruel, vindictive, savage, without a conscience, and Teflon - nothing ever stuck to him. Our therapist told me he was a sociopath, I think because he had add no remorse whatever for a atrocities that destroyed lives. The divorce was brutal, and I left empty handed, bc the attorneys couldn't endure his tactics and let me take the loss. Freedom in poverty is better than anything with him. Thanks for clarifying, Dr. Ramani.

My parent had antisocial personality disorder. They died when I was a teenager, and it sounds horrible, but it’s one of the best things that ever happened to me... I have PTSD from all the abuse, the death threats, the pure sadism. I survived through dissociation and luck. I will never understand how a person can commit such cruelty without any remorse, and I’m glad I never will. I will always strive for compassion and justice. There’s already so much suffering in the world. No need to add another layer with evil.

Totally syncs with my experience. I can handle the garden variety narcissist. The psychopath is on a whole other level; they will teach you the meaning of malevolence.

At the core of psychopathy lies malignant narcissism. - " Evil Genes"

It amazes me how often upper management in large companies lack the spine for difficult decisions and promote a psychopath to lead them like lemmings off a cliff.

I was married to the demonic evilness for 40 years and the last couple of years it got right down scary he was completely mentally unstable threatening to shoot me in the head while I was sleeping I had to Divorce that demon thanks for your help with the videos and Jesus amen 🙏

After experiencing both I'd say Psychopathic relationship is more physically dangerous with longterm issues because they are so calculated. Narcissistic one emotionally hurt me more in short term though

My children’s father is definitely both. If I would have to choose one or the other, I would prefer the narcissist over the psychopath. Psychopaths are scary!! The ripple effect of what the ex has done to his two ex-wives, his children, his employees, former friends, etc. is so far reaching.

She is so right when she talked about the villain costume. A narcissist is a wannabe psychopath, they are childlike. The psychopath is the real deal. I don't want to run in to my narcissist ex because he's a nuisance and a parasite. I don't want to run into my psychopath ex because he gives me the chills.

They're both awful. I would say a psychopath is more dangerous overall

I've been through both. My brother was the psychopath. I think I'm the only one in my family that saw it or at least I'm the only one that was willing to call it out. I've had quite a past. Then I married a high level narcissist. I'd pick my husband over my brother any day. I wonder who really believes me and I don't think I am seen as a liar to those who really know me, but while I consider myself a strong person, I'm not strong enough to not want someone to talk to about it all. So my rambling is tolerated but I'm never convinced that I'm believed. lol. My brother was the really scary one. He was the sneaky one. He enjoyed messing with people and he didn't care if they were young or old. So much of what you say describes my brother. I've always said that my family of origin was the normally dysfunctional family and my oldest brother made it abnormally dysfunctional. I'm glad I've lived this long because it's taken this long to sort it out and find some level of peace. I also have a sense of humor. My brother was 13 years older than me, so it was kind of like another dad in my life. Our lives seemed to revolve around him. My mom and dad saw that he was not turning out that great so they enabled him by being tolerant of him and wanted to help him. Brother loved it all. He loved the power it all gave him. He was at our house every weekend and the he was married to a pretty narcissist wife. The two of them fought often. Brother killed her cat with a butcher knife. Brother collected obits of people he felt had 'jacked' with him as he like to put it. He had weird ideas about God and brother thought that god had chosen him as one of his minions to exact punishment on the earth. He didn't think salvation was provided for women. Brother thought that he had power over the devil. OH that's enough to tell you. lol. Yeah, I'll take the normal narcissist any day over Brother. By the way I'm loving the healing program and I've listened to your first podcast. You are doing a great service to humanity. I've thanked you before but here it is again. THANK YOU!!

I'm SO GLAD this information is getting out there but wish it was taught in schools along with healthy boundaries but the problem is, especially today a LOT of teachers actually are Narscissist! Narscissist choose careers where they have control:. Education, Medical, Legal & Clergy.

I was in a relationship with a psychopath. It was different because there were NO red flags EVER for many, many years. He knew how he could manipulate me 24|7 all the time. When the bomb exploded it was really, really bad. He had a second girlfriend, he faked having cancer, he faked a complete different life, he had even a good relationship with my family AND the family of his second girlfriend. He lived in our apartment with his second girlfriend when I was on businesstrips and told her he was houssitting for his cousin ( he didn’t have a cousin he showed her the picture of my brother) I was the crazy x girlfriend because I called many times, so he told others. In reality we were living together for 6 years and where fighting about having kids (I didn’t want any, he wanted two with me while he was cheating on me). It still feels like a bad story somebody told me and not my life. He wasn’t charming, he wasn’t good looking, he wasn’t rich. He was the most average guy you would EVER meet.

Who in the heck cares about their diagnosis? They are both utterly destructive and you need to run far, far away, and live a life on your own terms. Period.

I’m gonna say the narcissist. They have the ability to keep you questioning and in a confused state. Narcissists are worse because they actually have feelings and it makes us stuck.

"Would you rather fight 1 horse-sized duck or 100 duck-sized horses?"

Before watching, i'd say psychopath. My partner seemed like a covert narcissist, but there are times i wondered if he was a psychopath - his eyes, the ability to lie so well, damaging my stuff (nails in tyres etc) and possibly stealing.

Well, you said it all. I knew in my heart and my stomach that I had to get rid of a friend I have known this person for years. I'm 51 now. I let go. I'm much more happier now.

It's like you've said before...it's a spectrum. There are some days I feel like I see the psychopath who laughs at or justified incredibly inappropriate or harmful things and then the sociopath who holds a grudge against the cat that avoids him but he'll still feed. I think the cat is on to him.

Like a "lifetime movie" and "other worldly" are exactly how I felt. I felt like I was in an episode of a true crime and afraid for my life. Once I understood what was going on it was profound and I've never been the same. The villain costume really was the real clothing. Thank you so much for making this video.

I thought the relationship with the narcissist was way worse. You see the character of the psychopath eventually, but there are moments of humanity and warmth that the narcissist is able to show, so you end up being more open to them emotionally, which results in a lot of emotional abuse.

Narcissist equals self importance, Psychopaths equals No Conscience at all.

This man I was with for 6 months has absolutely NO empathy. It was scary. People were starting to tell me I should quit my job n move away to get away from him(I worked with him). He would kiss on me and be happy and smile with me all day for him to randomly lose his smile and tell me I have a new girlfriend and don't want to be with you anymore. His true face showed. No love no kindness in his eyes. I cried alot and drove away I saw him smurking n laughing at my pain. Then he called me later and said it was a joke. He was obsessed with sex. I always felt... assaulted while doing It with him. He would get angry and throw glass or punch the wall next to me. He threw my phone. He drove agressively across an icy parking lot while my door was wide opened and almost ran over our boss. I almost fell out the car. He would poke holes in the condoms. He threatened to kill me. He would force me to video chat with me everywhere I would go to make sure I wasn't cheating on him. He would cuss at me and call me every name in the book for assuming I was cheating. He would stalk me. He burned my friend with a fryer threatening her about me. When I finally got out I found out he had a whole other life...he had an entire girlfriend for a year before me and him were together(which I was suspicious about). He been with her now for 4 years and now has a kid with her. He HAS NO EMPATHY. not a peice of it.

To anyone that might be reading this, I wish that whatever is hurting you or whatever you are constantly stressing about gets better. May the dark thoughts, the overthinking, the doubt exit your mind right now. May clarity replace confusion. May peace and calmness fill your life... even tho current times are challenging and some of you might go through tough times now I sincerely wish everyone that happiness enters your hearts and let all the stress and sadness vanish out of your life...as you know nothing in life is ever easy, but what's important is that you keep going! you're worthy of love and happiness, never allow anyone to tell you otherwise! It can be extra hard sometimes but stay strong and hang in there, your life matters, no one can replace you, I'm thankful you're born and I'm sure your struggles will pass soon! Hang in there my friend 🙏 I wish all of you plenty of health and strength during any current tough times you face. Remember you are strong, you got this! never forget that! sending much love over towards all of you, May god or whatever you might believe in bless you the way you need it to! ♥️🌟

For me, I find a narcissist is easier to deal with. They make you FEEL bad in the moment but that's usually it. (Emotional manipulation) A psychopath however goes a step further, they slowly hijack your personality and sometimes your reality (examples: moving your pill bottles around, poisoning your cat, "borrowing" you car without asking, etc etc) While a narcissist could also do those things, a psychopath is more likely to. A psychopaths loves "seeing the fear in your eyes" and "watching you suffer". Idk to me a narcissist is just easier to shoo away. While a psychopath will let you go ONLY if they let you.

I have been into narcissistic/psychopath. I believe that person was both the level of domestic violence was very high and the fact after he bit me to death he checked his muscles and himself in the mirror while I was in pain on the floor. The damage and amount of trauma that affected and hunted me is unbearable.

I seem to have both in my family. I was heartbroken by the narcissist because of my deep attachment, and because they can be vulnerable too. The psychopath (mixed with an insatiable jealousy) however is the one I am terrified of, posing as a softspoken sympath but is a cold calculated snake that weighs everyone by the risk of exposure if they attack and devour.

I found psychopath worse because there is no care but they totally play you. Narcissists are rubbish at lying but also put emotional intensity in. So even though both are extremely awful the psychopath is totally anti social and has no regard for you at all. Chilling is the only way to explain , and the key difference is I never felt sorry or sad for the psychopath but did for the narcissist as they were a sad attempt at a human. The psychopath got me so bad as their charm and confidence was off the scale. And was also extremely attractive.

Oh, when they show you they're criminal ways, RUN

I have experience with both, they both suck. My mom's "uncle" had a hold on her since childhood and she brought him into my family's life because of that control. I was 6 when he died. I saw my murder in his eyes on holidays ( Merry Xmas) and a few sundays a month. He knew he was dying and put fear/control into my head for long after he was dead. He also believed in very dark stuff. He helped raise my mom who grew up into a malignant narc. Years later, I asked point blank why did she drag us over there?? Wishy washy answer about being family. He had a hold on her is what happened. She justified it by saying, " I would never let them babysit you". Why? I just wouldn't. She knew first hand what he was capable of. He also escalated with time, cancer diagnosis, and her doing NOTHING. I went low contact. Death was the only means of no contact. I never had children because I knew I needed time in therapy not raising little ones. I knew that was my legacy to pass on, I took a pass.

Men, do not hesitate for one moment to place a court-issued restraining order against your female partner if you feel your safety and health is in jeopardy. Placing a permanent restraining order on my female partner was absolutely the wisest protective move of my adult lifetime. My only regret is not doing it years earlier. Men, be safe!

The Psychopath is more dangerous, but when you get out, you will get more support from others, I'm guessing. Narcs may have good days and bad, but trying to explain that and get support is difficult, if the person hasn't experienced it themselves. So the relationship is worse with a Psychopath, but the support is worse with a narcissist.

Commenting at 1:15 minutes in: I was raised by a narcissist parent and have been in relationships with a psychopath & narcissist. Without doubt for me, the most traumatic relationship was with the psychopath. He would hurt me for fun. He would ridicule me for sport. He would laugh at me. Criticize me. Ignore me. Push me away. Pull me back in. Love me. Resent me. Cheat on me. Leave me alone at home for days on end. This relationship has wounded my SOUL. Narcissists are selfish. Self serving. Jealous. Insecure. Competitive. Lacking in insight. And sometimes the 3 narcissists I've known (one being my parent) would hurt me on purpose. But that was rare. Mostly I was hurt as collateral damage. The psychopath was different. He enjoyed hurting me. All of these relationships are hard, but psychopaths are (in my opinion) on a whole other level of toxic. They hurt you and play you because they WANT to. The narcissist generally hurts you as a by product of trying to help themselves. I've now been single for years and will probably never be in another relationship.

I would say you're definitely right on both of them being challenging. I imagine the main difference would be intensity and intentionality. I like to think that psychopathy is more premeditated than even malignant narcissism. most narcissists don't even know the harm that they do. I think with Psychopaths it is the intention to harm cognitively.

It was difficult, as a complete layperson, to see where my mother was. She was a warmer person, in her younger years. During the last 10-15 years of her life, it felt as if she might’ve been going from stress to depression to NPD to possible psychopathy. But, it was difficult to discern whether she was transitioning from NPD to psychopathy in her later years, because of the known, likely-increasing loss of empathy that some narcissists get, as they age anyway. What felt psychopathic was that, to my knowledge, she hadn’t ever been predatory. I’d never felt the need for police involvement and they started to feel that, even without me playing a role. The local psych unit, when the police brought her there, called me a couple of times, to ask questions, like whether she was suicidal. No one could determine what was wrong with her and the psych unit simply released her, without testing her as, she wouldn’t allow it. Whether it was me watching these videos, the police, the psych unit or my sister, who stayed with her for the past 4 years, no one has mentioned dementia and I could only detect small, intermittent issues with memory loss. But, other than having neuropathy, probably from being in denial of being diabetic, she seemed a fully-functioning person, although I can only determine that from hearing her speak over the phone as, I actually didn’t feel it was safe for me to visit her, without a police officer, as I felt I was her main target. Obviously and particularly for laypeople, it can become so murky, when you’re literally wading in this, up close. You’re trying to figure out what’s wrong, hoping to get the person to accept professional help, trying to protect yourself and just trying to go through the basic functionality of everyday life.

I recently learned some horrible stuff about the man that called himself my grandfather. My mom's dad is also horrible. I'm convinced my entire family is full of narcissists and psychopaths. And it is terrifying.

I don't watch as much as I used to because I've done a ton of work to get past the horror movie I was in, but in listening to this I always saw my ex as a high end malignant narcessist and I tend to still think that but I'm possibly more confused now. He was an enormous love bomber with the emotional level of age 2-4. At the same time when he went down hill he could be love bombing and killing my animals all the while crying while they were buried pouring more attention on himself than allowing me to grieve my own. In the end I don't know that it matters and this was a bit triggering, but I can say the best of both is no contact, personal growth, knowing new people very well before deciding of they are right and healthy, and understanding your weaknesses to never end up there again.

I know a lot of narcissist but haven’t ran across a psychopath .....Thank God!!!

Appreciate the info. My daughters father was an antisocial narcissist. Ended up with PTSD. If u meet these people "run", nothing good will ever come of any kind of relationship.

Been through both. Narcissists will leave you alone after you figure them out. Psychopaths will do the work it takes to destroy you.

All psychopaths are narcissists,but not all narcissists are psychopathic.Clearly the psychopath is worst.

I am so grateful I am away from my ex husband! Thank you for this video!

😲 This describes what I went through better than narcissism

I think a psychopath would unleash their wrath more in their careers / general lives, whereas a narcissist’s wrath is concentrated in the smaller emotional dynamics in close relationships

This is 100 percent spot on for my psychopath ex. She used aliases from the day I met her (fake real dad and fake step dad), was a parasite, very assertive and confident, then unpredictability raging and physically violent. I ended up having kids with her. It was a horrific experience living with her (usual breadcrumbs excepted) - I got many injuries from her, but stayed for the kids' sake for 18 years till I reached breaking point. It really was like living in a Lifetime movie. The stalking and phone hacking continues to this day, despite 3 years no contact. Surviving the last couple of months till I got out was the scariest part. I have no doubt she will kill to keep her false persona. I only found her true identity the year before I left her, as she declared her made up name on my kids' birth certificates. They don't get much more extreme than this one. Pathological liar who totally owns her false backstory as if it was real.

Being with a psychopath is very scary. I wouldn’t wish that on anybody. I lived with a narcissistic husband and although he wasn’t physically abusive, he was emotionally/verbally abusive that caused me health issues, stress, depression. I am healing and listening to Dr Ramani to help me through this healing process but at least I know he isn’t going to kill me.

I’ve dated mostly narcissistic men but one of my first relationships was with a psychopath. I was 14. Im diagnosed with cptsd to say the least lmao

Psychopaths have none of the vulnerability, and aren’t just selfish, they actively set out to destroy your life. There doesn’t seem to be any limit to a psychopaths creative cruelty, they mean to break you. Any imagined slight and they owe it to wreak havoc

Psychopath is worse. It’s all the narcissistic abuse plus coldness and fear. Psychopaths, I feel enjoy your terror, while narcissistic people just want to feel above you and in control.

Thank you Dr for the link to the podcast 'navigating narcissism ' its an eye opener. God bless you for dedicating your life to educating and setting people free from bondage 🙏

Both a psychopath and a narcissist are worse in their own “respective” ways.

here's one to avoid: a malignant narcissist who uses hypnotism. yes, I've been there. This was a life lesson.

I grew up with a psychopathic parent (the other was low functioning sociopathic). I can relate to everything said . Growing up with a psychopathic parent made it harder for me to recognize bad behaviour in the outside world - like workplace narcissism - because it was so much less extreme in the outside world. It probably sounds nutty but workplace narcissists are not cold as ice and they won't torture you - it took me a long time to re-learn what is normal. Psychopathy for a young child I think has a major negative impact, but I think it may depend on what other supports you had around you. Thanks for making this video

Its amazing that you are able to put into words what many of us are experiencing. For the longest time, I didn't have the language to explain what was taking place in my life with the narcissist. It felt like I was living in some alternate reality, of the narcissists making, and nothing made sense. Your videos have helped me so much.

Id say both are awful but narcissists are harder to escape from, psychopaths didnt chase me down to destroy my life or stalk for nothing better than to traumatise. psychopath was violent nasty and abandoning but narc was all the described and then mental manipulation, not just exploitation, mental psychological harm. The narcissistic one made me lose my entire sense of self, not so with the basic psychopath.

Thanks Dr. Ramani. Love your videos, I'm always learning something new and useful from your videos.

I believe a malignant narc ticks off a lot of Hare PCL 22. I had a friendship with a psychopath who scored 39 on PCL 22. I ran like hell! They do a lot of the same things that a malignant narc does but they are definitely on a much more dangerous level. But you know what her therapist told her? That she had CPTSD, because she always played the victim. I also fell for it in the beginning. I was traumatized. Scares the eff out of me now when I meet new people! One red flag and I shut them down. Psychopaths are superlative actors but they always come into your life with a story of victimhood!

I'm soo grateful for your awesome channel, my mom & I watch you every day, & your transparent sincerity is EXACTLY what this hurting world needs when it comes to this horrendous epidemic‼️ Thank you sooo much for sharing your wealth of knowledge & may God continue to bless you & always season your words🙏🙏🙏

Thank you for the insightful explanation and the wonderful video, Ramani.I couldn't agree more. This can be a precise description on how it is to deal with each of them. Have a wonderful day, Doc, and blessings to you 🙏🏻🎉

Been waiting for this video long time. Dr Ramani savvyness on these topics is very impressive. Psycopaths are even scarier than narcs, but at certain point you realize they lack of feelings. That makes it easier to run away and get rid of any guilt trip, in my case. But I am an empath and when I discovered the real pain and hard upbringing in my narc partner, this (plus the good days) made it even harder to get off the hook.

Psychopath want to be. Oh wow! That’s my ex husband. He would watch news stories about the guys that kidnapped little girls and held them prisoner for years and he would look so envious and longing. It was terrifying to witness.

Congrats on your podcast! Looking forward to listening to it. 😘❤️

I was involved with a narcissist, which was horrible, but the malignant narcissist was 100 times worse. The narcissist will hurt you, but they don't actually enjoy hurting people. The malignant narcissist ENJOYS causing people pain, and you can tell they are enjoying it when they hurt you.

Agreed. Psychopaths can lie over and over again and you fall for it. But they won't lie when they say they'll crush you, because they will.

My family members were a psychopath, an overt narc and a covert narc, guess who was my favorite family member growing up... It was the overt narcissist, l LOVED him😂😂😂

It amazes me how everyone around can't see what these deranged evil demons are doing.

My father sold my dead mothers Jewelery without mine and my sister’s knowledge, depriving us of having anything to remember her by. He’s a multi Millionare, with a company worth billions that he and his brother made a success in America. I often wonder how he could’ve done such a horrific act. He’s always had some narcissistic traits, but has been a loving father at other times in other ways. I know he’s disordered, I just cannot figure out which disorder he suffers from to do what he did with my mothers Jewelery.

I'm so excited about the podcast! Will it also be uploaded to RU-vid, too? (This is my favorite way to listen to podcasts. 😅 But if other apps are my only option, I can definitely be flexible for this!)

They’re both bad get away from both of them

Enjoying your podcast, Dr. Ramani! So proud of you😊💪❤ you are the angel 😇 for narc survivors. Your healing program is saving many lives. Thank you⚘💖

My last was a psychopath. Hands down horrible. He would make me do things. And he would do things to me. Absolutely terrifying. You, helped me escape him. Thank you He had no fear. It's awful.stull.

If I had to choose, I would have chosen Neither. I am definitely with a Narcissist, according to the definition and different characteristics of both of these Jerks of people. Yes, if you have children, love them care for them the best you can. Is what I have done since I realized, I was married to someone so insensitive and in-secured with such a high grandiosity attitude. I know deep down in my heart, that everything happens for a reason. And what doesn’t break you, make you. For sure! I am a living proof that, we all go through things is for one way or another to have a lesson learned. (If you are teachable). What I have been through with the narcissistic husband I am still married to, I know that when I share my testimony and stories of how I have survived them and how God has blessed me and my children, all I can say it’s been quite an experience, a stressful journey, but God has still showed me he Loves me and that He is always by my side and my children.♥️ -If you have a plan already to leave, or building up your plan to leave, GREAT! Keep on Thriving, Don’t Give up, Don’t look Back, God has a plan for you and your loved ones (children, family, whoever is involved with you in this horrible situation).- ☔️Showers of Blessings may continue upon everyone in this community, including Dr. Ramani of course!☔️ -SOMETIMES it’s very hard to move on, but once you move on, YOU’LL realize it’s was the BEST decision you’ve ever made.- Peace 🙏🏼and Love ♥️To everyone.

What is see as most important whichever you are dealing with, you need to make your own decision to remain in these relationships if it is family or friends for you to answer who is most important! Are you ready to stand up for your happiness in life, peace, confidence, and love yourself as only you can do! If you over years have been in a toxic relationship, then it’s time to end that relationship for the rest of your life. I had professional counseling by a wonderful woman who saved my life. Run as fast as you can, as far away as you can. That was 4 years ago. Not a single regret! It was my only sibling, my brother! I hope I’m able to help someone who is at crossroads. I definitely suggest seeing a professional counselor to help you sort out the pain of another person targeting you with pure hatred ! Blessings

I was in a relationship with a psychopath for almost three years, through high school. My narcissistic mother adored him, always supported him and join him in abusing me. When I eventually did get away, he stalked me for over a year at school and work. Eventually other people got wise to what a serious problem he was. Many people I knew at the time that I have encountered since, who were friends and family of HIS, have circled back to me to let me know what a nightmare he was for everyone. Gradually, he has been kicked out of various social spaces as people notice something is off. The indie movie theater he and I used to frequent had to ban him for harassing teenage girls. Sick, but in a weird way, it’s comforting to know that he can’t hide it anymore.

thanks for all your efforts in making these videos Dr Ramani, you have allowed me to become so much more self aware and have provided me with words to describe my difficult experiences. I really appreciate all that you do, keep it up 🤗

Saw a cute video the other day where this dog yawned after his person yawned a few times. Then I wondered if narcissists catch yawns. I remember the nex finding it funny when I caught his yawn. Only found articles that mentioned psychopaths.

I’ve had a middle school student who was a psychopath. There’s just absolutely no ability to care about anyone else or even about rules at all. The narcissist has trouble with empathy but with a lot of work are able to do it in a concrete way. It’s reallly… kind of brain damage… which could very well be at least partially a psychological block for narcissists. Psychopaths definitely have physical brain damage that causes their personality.

Being in a marriage for nearly 30 years discovering cheating was my enough point as if the narcissistic abuse wasn't enough the drinking and addictive behaviours, he also has more traits of a psychopath , I ended it and now filed for divorce. He was never a father to our daughter we were devalued discarded years ago but still I tried to make it work giving more and more, he was abusive towards her and his own family, she is now an adult who has now gravitated back towards her father and ostracised me which is totally heart breaking. I do not know how this will end and at a loss as to how to make it right between us as there feels like a wall or will patience and time make it right. Thank you for this Dr Ramani

Couldn’t even get thru the first min, i went to the podcast right away ❤️ congrats on your new podcast & thank you thank you thank you 🙏🏽

Growing up with a narc mother, I definitely developed an overly sensitive nervous system in order to survive the unpredictability of that relationship. In some ways I'm grateful for this, as I can pretty quickly sense when I'm in the presence of a psychopath. You immediately get this uncomfortable sense of threat and menace, like a predator trying to hunt you down. The energy it gives off is frightening and its eyes are completely cold and dead, like a human shell walking around taking advantage of people, so it's easier to identify one and escape them. Narcissists are a little more chaotic and emotional, which is why I struggle more with avoiding them.

Yep, that was my husband! If I tried to leave he would take me OUT! If he left me, he would take me OUT! You can't win. 🤷‍♀️There is an overlap and he seemed to be proficient in all categories. I don't know how many times I sent evidence to a friend saying just in case something happens to me. Psychopaths always want to be a chameleon and have the element of surprise with their plot clearly thought out. Before my husband's death, ( and I use the term loosely) the hospital sent him to a psychiatrist and they said he had anti-social personality disorder. I thought, at the time, it meant antisocial which he definitely was not. After he died is when I found out. I just knew he was VERY, VERY dangerous. I'm thankful everyday I made it through and didn't become a statistic. I still have PTSD, but not as badly. I live alone and am perfectly happy that way. AND, needless to say, I'm not looking for a significant other, EVER🤣