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Is Abyss A Good Map? 

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Understanding Valorant's newest map to the competitive pool in both the macro and micro can be difficult. In this video, I breakdown the issues that Abyss has and give feedback into improving the map to play better in a casual and competitive environment.
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Комментарии : 46   
@saubhadrsamod1040
@saubhadrsamod1040 Месяц назад
i do like that you are not shittalking cuz bro everybody keeps criticizing but we already have more maps in 3 years of val than 11 years of CS also clove came out on march and we already are getting a new agent I would hate if they stop their consistent efforts and start giving updates like valve
@bubbawubba111
@bubbawubba111 Месяц назад
CS has maps like Cache, Anubis, and Dust 2 that weren't originally made by Valve. This doesn't include the community workshop with every other map made by the community. I wish Riot would let community members make their own maps to play on and maybe even try and get into the game. Also I do like getting new maps and agents but many of the agents are pretty underwhelming like Deadlock, Harbor, and pre-nerf Iso.
@saubhadrsamod1040
@saubhadrsamod1040 Месяц назад
@@bubbawubba111 you have a point with the maps even though i think we have too many maps now but get riots idea here they have decided to release agents that are trash and buffing them than releasing agents like chamber iso,deadlock which can be playable in 2 patches also harbour needs a rework his current kit makes him suitable for only a double controller
@excancerpoik
@excancerpoik 9 дней назад
abyss suffers from the same issue that pearl and sunset suffer from just plant b and have the freest sightline onto the bomb from far away and spam it is almost impossible to defuse
@daredevil2_074
@daredevil2_074 2 дня назад
It’s not impossible just retake from B main.
@excancerpoik
@excancerpoik 2 дня назад
@@daredevil2_074 ? the point is that as attack you don't stay on site. You can just spam the plant from main, and you cant push main as easily because the whole attack team is here (obviously depends on the map) and even if the defence kills the attackers it takes a bunch of time and most likely no time is left to defuse. If you don't believe me just go watch literally any pro game on pearl or sunset and like 80% of plants are b
@infiniteearth6996
@infiniteearth6996 14 дней назад
Wow great suggestions for potential changes they also need solve the plant spike run main and sparm the spike meta that soo many valorant maps have by giving attackers a way to defend the Spike whilst in the site
@pounsealive
@pounsealive Месяц назад
underrated creator. keep it up
@greengem
@greengem Месяц назад
The map is bad. It has the same verticality Icebox has so there are always 37 different angles you have to watch. It has a useless mid that will only get used to lurk, like Icebox. It is also massive like Breeze so rotates will take forever making the most viable strategy to just slam either site. Both sites have multiple plant spots where you can plant then leave and spam from the 37 angles that can see bomb, which is the problem with Pearl and Sunset B sites. It's like they wanted to put all the worst elements from every previous map into one pile of shit
@carterklein4415
@carterklein4415 14 дней назад
Your video just randomly got recommended to me and i clicked on your channel and holy cow for you to only have 2 videos and they be this informative and well made is awesome. Insta sub. Id love a series of videos like this one but for every map
@Fluskar
@Fluskar 13 дней назад
Riot loves making maps where playing on the bombsite is almost always unreliable because of how open everything is. Theres very few instances where this isnt the case. Most of the time people will just plant bomb and run back into main because the bombsites are just so poorly designed. Wish Riot would take a page out of CS' book and do similar maps.
@teatea_.3801
@teatea_.3801 Месяц назад
This is the worst map I've ever seen since the launch of Valorant , this map has barely any type of defender or attacker game-play and the long as hell rotate that takes an actual whopping 10 seconds makes it so that if defenders lose a site control and attacker plant early , the defenders will literally have no other way of winning.The long as hell rotate makes it so that enemies will always 5 stack commit a site and because the sites don't have proper defender covers , defenders will almost immediately die unless a cypher is playing or sage is walling off site to prevent entry but that holds up for barely any time.Then there's the mid problem where there is quite literally a large advantage for any team that has proper aim , an enemy with a proper aim or high refresh rate monitor would easily clap mid cause again defenders can't contest mid after losing control.This is the worst map I've ever seen that only promotes "aim-based" game-play rather than like actual strategy game-play. Map made for iron game-play where you either rush or get rushed 👍.
@Snmitty
@Snmitty Месяц назад
great vid, keep striving
@robloxhappyfrog7482
@robloxhappyfrog7482 Месяц назад
Idk bubbles this map seems fine, I cook on this map
@bubbawubba111
@bubbawubba111 Месяц назад
I like the map but I'm a little worried about pro play. It doesn't seem like it is gonna be a map that teams will want to play because of shallow the meta is going to be.
@torsoun
@torsoun 2 дня назад
without fail this map gets dodged in at LEAST 40% of my ranked games
@Oransi_
@Oransi_ Месяц назад
its pretty fun for swiftplay
@shababa_gang
@shababa_gang 13 дней назад
u r the best one dawg no one can explain good like u there is an example i and many other people did not like the map it was very exposed and we cant even say fix this or that i cant say that but man after i watched ur video i thought about u and : damn this guy is real life tony stark in video game
@somadeli8721
@somadeli8721 10 дней назад
I dont know why people dont like many maps, I like all of them
@F4lmz
@F4lmz Месяц назад
mid is terrible on this map, its difficult to smoke and ive seen so many awkward fights on mid already. hope they do some changes to it
@varuhash50
@varuhash50 Месяц назад
Honestly the only issues i see on Abyss is where the Defenders are supposed to be to hold the site down. The sites are very open with very little cover (something id love to have as a Cypher player) and Mid, while not very worth it for Attackers, is a lot harder to deal with if they get control of it. Its the Icebox problem, if theres no way to contest Mid then its a lot stronger than usual. Sentinel utility is way too far back right now to reliably hold it for lurks and the only way is to commit Chamber and leave him there to actively watch Mid. Im sure there will be better ways later on since Abyss barely came out, but those are the current problems i can see. Its not Breeze or Fracture broken, but it’s definitely fixable like Lotus
@Springs622
@Springs622 14 дней назад
i mean harbors millions of smokes kind of counter act the triple cross fire in B connector so i guess if you play harbor you could work a mid push in you just need the right team comp
@HunterOWen1O
@HunterOWen1O Месяц назад
Why tha fracture hate in the thumbnail man D:
@ravencortvriendt
@ravencortvriendt Месяц назад
lowkey how are you so underrated
@yawnbat2499
@yawnbat2499 14 дней назад
the mid fixes makes sense but it just looks like pearl mid
@egementandogan2635
@egementandogan2635 Месяц назад
bruh i littrealy read it as 212k subscribers no way its 212. Already sent the video to every group chat before subbing lmao
@benjyfour
@benjyfour 12 дней назад
Can We have an urban map next I want to See the world burn
@orieLab_
@orieLab_ Месяц назад
I also feel like this map in unnecessarily long, rotating just feel bad, even more so when mid is completely useless
@doodluck
@doodluck Месяц назад
this map is absolutely horrid
@eternal_sap9820
@eternal_sap9820 14 дней назад
you could say it’s abysmal
@thoter424
@thoter424 9 дней назад
honestly id rather play abyss over icebox and breeze honestly
@user-og1rs2fz7f
@user-og1rs2fz7f Месяц назад
there is no point to improving never bring it back. your changes wouldnt still fix it because a and b main are to complex and give so much space for the attackers to play for spam, no matter what they do if they dont fix a and b main playerls will always just rush a site, plant with wingman and harbor cove just play for spam and win every round
@hastyscorpion
@hastyscorpion 7 дней назад
Well fracture is like the best valorant map so being “ worse than fracture” isnt hard.
@genot6967
@genot6967 Месяц назад
Ngl map is a banger exept mid in my opinion, but when are u back to streaming lil bro?
@bubbawubba111
@bubbawubba111 Месяц назад
The sites are actually pretty good, but mid is so bad it pretty much ruins the entire map. also idk when next stream is
@yeetyeetyeet1967
@yeetyeetyeet1967 Месяц назад
NO
@computer_bagy3007
@computer_bagy3007 Месяц назад
Abyss sucks
@keremylmaz8423
@keremylmaz8423 8 дней назад
It's worse than fracture because fracture is a good map
@jpy88
@jpy88 14 дней назад
worst map of all time. defender spawn A Secret makes even no sense to go there
@arnava8041
@arnava8041 Месяц назад
Bruh you guys just hate on every new map, cant you just adapt
@Penguinizerrr
@Penguinizerrr Месяц назад
try Adapting to breeze
@misterm7486
@misterm7486 Месяц назад
@@Penguinizerrr i love breeze
@Penguinizerrr
@Penguinizerrr Месяц назад
@@misterm7486 icebox
@misterm7486
@misterm7486 Месяц назад
@@Penguinizerrr icebox sucks
@notslay1875
@notslay1875 Месяц назад
fr i hate this map so much
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