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Is Aemond Targaryen the Father of Helaena's Children? (House of the Dragon Theory Explained) 

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In Is Aemond Targaryen the Father of Helaena's Children? I go over the House of the Dragon theory of Aemond Targaryen being the father of Helaena Targaryens children instead of Aegon.
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@JellyJugz
@JellyJugz 10 месяцев назад
So you may be wondering why the video seems to be edited weirdly, well I was give a copyright claim so I had to trim things out, but luckily the video still has all the important info so sorry for the inconvenience.
@Laramaria2
@Laramaria2 11 месяцев назад
I'll stand by any theory that says Helaena found any good thing in her life 😅
@cheonsaa8185
@cheonsaa8185 Год назад
You missed when Otto left helaena's room, alicent called him uttering the word "Father", then the twins suddenly muttered something that sound like Aemond, which is then followed by Aemond entering the room; and knowing Helaena is a dragon dreamer, her children might be one as well and saw the coming of Aemond or they gave hints by mentioning aemond when the they heard the word Father.
@thalmoragent9344
@thalmoragent9344 Год назад
Nah, it was Aegon. People have heard this before, and it was Aegon
@browniebear
@browniebear 11 месяцев назад
1 twin says "Aemond" and the other says "Aegon". It's also only *just* audible and occurs right after Alicent calls "Father". This was clearly intentional by the crew to further create doubt on the parentage of Jaehaerys and Jaehaera. Maybe they just see Aemond as their father cause he helps take care of them in Aegon's absence and negligence. Or maybe Aemond is their real father after all...
@dnisse5216
@dnisse5216 11 месяцев назад
that wasnt helaena room
@maylynbayani
@maylynbayani 10 месяцев назад
​@@browniebearno, it was definitely Aemond. Aegon is pronounced as "Egg-on" hence his nickname "Egg".
@maylynbayani
@maylynbayani 10 месяцев назад
​@@thalmoragent9344 Aegon is pronounced as "Egg-on" not "Eygon". There was a prominent "Ey" sound on both times the twins called his name.
@maylynbayani
@maylynbayani Год назад
When Jace asked Hel to dance, Aemond looks so triggered that Aegon looked to him, as if anticipating a reaction from HIM! Which is odd because Aegon is the husband.
@JellyJugz
@JellyJugz Год назад
I really do believe this theory is true! So many subtle things throughout season 1
@luvprue1
@luvprue1 8 месяцев назад
I think so too. In the world of ice and fire it seems like Aemond cared more about Helena than Aegon.
@EmmaSoyer72
@EmmaSoyer72 9 дней назад
​@@JellyJugzAemond is actually 16 and he is younger than Helaena. It wouldn't mzke sense for him to be the father of the children. Helaena's actress herself said this ship never was in the script.
@anaclarisaarrosio9192
@anaclarisaarrosio9192 Год назад
Aemond cares more about Heleana than Aegon, Aemond looks more like a husband than his brother, i hope it is true
@thalmoragent9344
@thalmoragent9344 Год назад
Nah mate, Aemond's character doesn't fit this narrative, nor does the title scene of the show
@heartlesslove9084
@heartlesslove9084 Год назад
​@thalmoragent9344 book and show are not the same dude they already made a lot changes in aemond and helaena's characters I won't be surprised if they show how siblings preferre each other in season 2.
@Elizabeth-hc3mi
@Elizabeth-hc3mi Месяц назад
I think Aegon does care about Haelena, but more as a sister (yeah he calls her weird, but who hasn't called their sister weird before?)
@EmmaSoyer72
@EmmaSoyer72 9 дней назад
​@@Elizabeth-hc3miAemond is actually 16 and he is younger than Helaena. It wouldn't mzke sense for him to be the father of the children. Helaena's actress herself said this ship never was in the script.
@KelbiFrugia
@KelbiFrugia 3 месяца назад
And in the book, the Black's kill Haelena's son in exchange for Luke's death. And quoted "a son for a son". Wouldn't it be fitting that it was actually Aemond's son, since Aemond committed the crime?
@maylynbayani
@maylynbayani Год назад
In the books, they died the same day. Aemond died and she jumped to her death by sunset.
@Anna-uq6wr
@Anna-uq6wr 11 месяцев назад
Yes they did! So few people seem to notice this fact and I really don’t think this is accidental and hints at their bond being very significant.
@luvprue1
@luvprue1 8 месяцев назад
Good point ! She probably killed herself after finding out that Aemond died. She probably knew it, felt it.
@Divine_Chareka
@Divine_Chareka Год назад
0:41 bro said I would smash 😂
@TheElochai
@TheElochai Год назад
Would it be too much to want them to be a close brother sister pair without incest?
@JellyJugz
@JellyJugz Год назад
Yes lol no it could be that they are just close it’s just that scene when he was younger is what I keep going back to
@TheElochai
@TheElochai Год назад
@@JellyJugz I feel it can go either way really.
@lindsaydrewe8219
@lindsaydrewe8219 11 месяцев назад
Somehow I find Brother and sister incest less disturbing than uncle niece. Possibly it’s the age gap,after all he knew her as a baby while being an adult. Siblings brought up meanwhile in weird( let’s face it) circumstances would naturally feel that they can turn to each other,the only ones they really trust. Aegon got all the attention while the younger pair were seen as a bit defective. Whatever , Aemond obviously cares for her the most
@xmynationalanthemx
@xmynationalanthemx 6 месяцев назад
Bruh they’re literally Targaryens. Incest is what they do.
@jenniferjames346
@jenniferjames346 14 дней назад
I wonder if in the books, Maelor is Aegon’s son and the twins are Aemond’s. Blood and cheese asked Heleana which son she wanted to lose, and hesitantly she chose Maelor. Maybe she picked Maelor because Jaehaerys was next in line to the throne, or maybe because he wasn’t Aemond’s son.
@beckerboyssd8780
@beckerboyssd8780 10 месяцев назад
100% accurate, Aemond boned his sis and all those kids are his. Daemon knows too, that we had the oldest killed. 💯
@nessawalls
@nessawalls 11 месяцев назад
Makes sense i mean a son for son the blood and cheese makes more sense
@Dani_1012
@Dani_1012 9 месяцев назад
Especially the fight with Daemon later makes more sense with this theory
@Divine_Chareka
@Divine_Chareka Год назад
Love your videos man, keep it up 👏👏
@JellyJugz
@JellyJugz Год назад
Thanks! That really means a lot! :)
@matiasrodriguez7408
@matiasrodriguez7408 Год назад
I would like the show to make the change and that Aemond be the father of Helaena's children, he deserves to be an ancestor of the Targaryens much more than Aegon
@JellyJugz
@JellyJugz Год назад
True Aegon is a bit of a prick lol and it is Aemond the younger brother who studies history and philosophy, it is he who trains with the sword, who rides the largest dragon in the world
@NoName-wn4df
@NoName-wn4df Год назад
Them changing Aemond to Helaena’s childrens father has no impact on making him a more of a ‘Targaryen ancestor’ 😂 He is the exact same amount of ‘Targaryen ancestor’ as both Aegon and Helaena, there’s a difference between a Targaryen ruler (which both Aegon and Helaena were) and ancestor for starters so even if he was their father he wouldn’t be ruler because he isn’t king.
@matiasrodriguez7408
@matiasrodriguez7408 Год назад
@@NoName-wn4df You are rationalizing it too much, I just say that they should make the change because it would be better (Aegon is an idiot, Aemond was actually the one who took the war and the responsibility on his shoulders)
@jessicabrewer89
@jessicabrewer89 7 месяцев назад
I'm disgusting bc i want this to be true hahahaha. Another clue is she lets him touch her. She doesn't even let her mother touch her... she does touch others, but she seems to want to have his Aemond's touch
@EmmaSoyer72
@EmmaSoyer72 9 дней назад
Aemond is actually 16 and he is younger than Helaena. It wouldn't mzke sense for him to be the father of the children. Helaena's actress herself said this ship never was in the script.
@thalmoragent9344
@thalmoragent9344 Год назад
Nah, even in the Opening Credit Scene, its clear that the kids are Aegon's and Helaena's. For one, it doesn't fit Aemond's character within context of his family to do this. With Alys Rivers, sure, but Helaena? His married sister? The Opening Scene also shows how Rhaenyra's and Harwin's bloodlines cross, not Laenor's, so its clear we would've seen bastardy in evidence there... and we don't for Aemond and Helaena.
@Allthingsasian
@Allthingsasian 10 месяцев назад
In the show opening Harwin’s sigil is not there it is Laenor’s, and the same for Aegon and Helaena. The opening credits just show the ‘official’ succession. For instance many believed Aenys to be a bastard.
@alittlewoowoo2214
@alittlewoowoo2214 10 месяцев назад
A dragon takes what it wants. Aemond is riding who again?
@xmynationalanthemx
@xmynationalanthemx 6 месяцев назад
Lmfao they’re not gonna have Jaehaerys & Jaehaera come out of Aemond & Helaena’s bloodline in S1. That would’ve been a huge ass spoiler. Wait for S2.
@tylerbonin8408
@tylerbonin8408 28 дней назад
She kills herself after Aemond dies. Sounds like something a babymama does
@baslatz_
@baslatz_ Год назад
i wish it to be true.
@JellyJugz
@JellyJugz Год назад
I as well, I think it would be a cool twist but I suppose we will find out next season
@thalmoragent9344
@thalmoragent9344 Год назад
​@@JellyJugz I doubt it'll happen
@persephone342
@persephone342 3 месяца назад
Why say it’s a son for a son unless it’s literal? When you go biblical, you tend to mean literal interpretations. It wasn’t Alicent’s son, it was Helena’s. If they do it, this will be the the twist.
@brookelawrence6740
@brookelawrence6740 10 месяцев назад
yes, he is. hope that helps
@sad_dad
@sad_dad Год назад
Hope it ends up being true
@JellyJugz
@JellyJugz Год назад
I think it would be a good twist that would shock some people so here’s to hoping
@FraBra88
@FraBra88 Год назад
He seemed bothered when Jace invited Healena to dance, more so then Agon...but that would make Healena less noble and a traitor, I don't think it is the case
@marissarose1667
@marissarose1667 Год назад
I feel like that would be cool but their family is so concerned with being “legitimate” and they care a lot about specific children being bastards, so it would be a little out of character for them
@JellyJugz
@JellyJugz Год назад
True I really don’t have an argument for that but as Jaime Lannister once said “We don't get to choose whom we love It's beyond our control”
@thalmoragent9344
@thalmoragent9344 Год назад
Yeah, even the title shows that their kids are legitimate
@misswednesday299
@misswednesday299 Год назад
I think it would narratively work as a form of grand irony, especially since Alicent is so obsessed about illegitimate children from Rhaenyra.
@browniebear
@browniebear 11 месяцев назад
​@@misswednesday299Yeah & Aemond isn't above being a hypocrite. If Aegon II eventually lost the throne (thru death or whatever else), a decision would be made to crown Jaehaerys (or Aemond possibly). At this point if it's little Jae, Aemond could act as his regent until Jae comes of age OR confess Jae is a bastard which then makes Aemond king which then means he can legitimize Helena's children as his own and heirs & marry Helaena (if Aegon is dead or lost in Essos). It's scandalous yeah, but Aemond rides Vhagar and since when is there not drama in this storyline? He could very well have had an affair with Helaena which results in the twins (and Maelor if he exists in HotD) & justify it in his own head meanwhile Rhaenyra remains the "whore" (which is true but it doesn't change Aemond being a hypocrite which is a running concept in this story).
@Allthingsasian
@Allthingsasian 10 месяцев назад
I mean GRRM loves irony in his stories so I wouldn't be surprised if he wanted to include Aemond being the father of Helaena’s kids.
@gopherchucksgamingnstuff2263
@gopherchucksgamingnstuff2263 7 месяцев назад
This is par for the course in the Targaryen family
@leahpalacios4724
@leahpalacios4724 10 месяцев назад
In the books it doesn't say anything if aemond is the father of Helenas children i Don’t know maybe Helena and aemond are just close
@frances3705
@frances3705 17 дней назад
Does it really matter..they both are her brothers.
@ninaxwings
@ninaxwings Год назад
I wish she would just take her kids and dreamfyre and flee to go live with the blacks. She didn’t do anything to them I think she’d be given refuge
@heartlesslove9084
@heartlesslove9084 Год назад
You are delulu thinking she ll be safe with the blacks when she ll the most stupidest person to ever take decision to let herself and her children any harm.
@TaeSunWoo
@TaeSunWoo 11 месяцев назад
This
@margrett-jasmynstevens6872
@margrett-jasmynstevens6872 29 дней назад
You no what i find made there father kne of the best kkngs . Because HE NEW DAMN WELL his grandboys from the sea snakes famiky .... he new they werent targarines . But he still stood jdxt to his daughter and snapped THAT FIGHT THERE . FATHERS TAKE NOTE. LOL
@mitchwall6002
@mitchwall6002 Год назад
Hopefully he is the father
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