Uncel Dolan I didn't want to be mean but I'm glad someone pointed that out. FaceBook & RU-vid have no place for "hashtags" (or the Numerical Symbol as an Adult lacking Nignorance would call it).
ATCRyderX Actually, if you really want to start getting semantic with it, it is called a number sign in Canada, Pound sign in the US, Hash (Hatch) outside the US (among others like Hex, Cross, Crosshatch...) , and it's origination as a published name is "Octotherp" later Octothorpe by the Bell Corporation in the 70's. My point is, While "hashtag" has become the new name for it despite "hashtag" being a name for the whole tag including the "hash"... Calling it a "Numerical Symbol" (while passive aggressively insulting others in the process) is technically ignorant by your own definition. Fundamentally, who really cares? It's a hash/hatch/cross/hex/crosshatch/pound/number sign vis-à-vis octothorpe!
LA is known for low quality pavement, the road repairs are of low quality typically. If your car is slammed and you don’t know the area…LA has the potential to break your car…even moderately low cars get destroyed going legal speeds through intersections with deep dips or hitting giant 6+” deep holes that eat big wheels. I love me some sidewall and rally car ride height. Safari builds are where it’s at now.
It's droppin' down I'm yelling CAMBER You better move You better stance You hit a bump, you won't remember This is a car you won't forget ;) Just for you, Matt. I know you liked this one. From Kevin, the guy at the Gran Turismo party.
LexusReyes 2,250 is not the most expensive set I have seen, but its still alot of money. I know a couple people that have built full track day cars for less than that. Not the fastest track cars, just fun track day cars. Isn't what that's all about?
LexusReyes yea. You're laughing but I'm not taking the piss. A mate of mine spent about that much all together. Like I said not the fastest, but not all track day cars are built for just pure speed. Like most Americans think. Sorry not $ but £. My mate built a small fun track day mx5 for very cheap. £300 for mk1 1.6 MX5. £200 Gaz gold Coilovers. £250 exhaust system (custom). £100 cams. Stripping out for free. £200 cobra racing seats. £250 Roll bar. £250 for bigger brakes. £300 wheels. £250 tyres. So about £2100 altogether. Obviously the prices aren't the exact price. But it's about what he paid all in all. Like I said not the fastest. But it's fucking fun. Also way more potential for some more power. I know I would rather spend the money on a fun little track day car, than just an airride kit. So far I'm building my Mx5 up for track use, and only spent £1000 on it all together. Yes it's old and worn out but it's the most fun I have had in a car.
+Mashmarriner69 what does that have to do with this video? this video is presenting a suspension that can be a nice medium, good on road, good at shows and still looks damn epic. no one is saying "hey look this suspension is basically as good as track suspension on a track car" or "hey for the price of this suspension I can build a track car" ?? of course you can buy an mk3 golf gti, strip it and rock around the track having fun that doesn't make this particular suspension expensive. in UK air suspension costs around £2.5k.
Sure air suspension is great. But the price is well out of pretty much everyones range in Australia anyway. I know someone who spent 7k on air suspension for their showcar Supra. Explain how that is right. A pair of fully adjustable coilovers are between 1-2k. Air suspension is ridiculously overpriced.
Well at least its more usable and now you have 3 cars essentially at a touch of a button. Show car Supra, nice handling Supra, and Stock daily driver Supra. Usually if you own a decent Supra, you are at least upper middle class and 7K isn't that big of a hit, especially if you're a car enthusiast.
***** If thats the case, and if you need to slam a Supra to make it look good, then I think you missed the point of getting a Supra, esspecially if you're balling on a budget.
Shorty15c4007 Yea, you shouldn't be slamming any cars that can go fast, otherwise they wont be able to go fast. That's what's awesome about this air suspension, it actually makes slamming an Audio "possible", because you don't ruin its awesome daily driver charasteristics and performance.
No. It is almost impossible to improve the GT3. Don't even try. The amount of engineering that goes into those cars is insane, and if you think you know better than a Porsche's engineers, you're wrong.
I have a high quality coilover setup on my C5 and it rides great, never rubs, and handles awesome. It's dialed in right. But this system is much more versatile and advanced. 95% of people with these systems are hard parkers because that was the limit of the system. Now, this is the first one that's tuned for sport driving in mind, so you can have both. If you dont like slammed cars that's one thing, but that doesn't mean the system isn't amazing. Only chassis mod is 8 holes drilled in spare well
Compared to other options in the market, 5 grand is def worth it. You get all the flexibility you could ever want in 99% scenarios. And the fact you get to keep stock suspension and don't have to mod the car too much, I'd be a happy camper.
+larry_the_villan yes, we usually get lots of snow during the winter, freezing temperatures (-25C to -10C) and occasionally rain (more so before December and after February). So in return we have shit loads of salt and gravel on roads.
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Nobody needs coilovers on the road. Get separate shocks and springs.
DAMN that car looks bad@$$!!! One question though, what about alignment? Ride height changes always affect alignment, especially front toe, and you can destroy some tires quick by lowering a car and having the front toe all out of whack. So I guess you just have to get the car aligned with whatever height you intend to use most? At least it makes getting on and off the alignment rack easier haha.
You align your setup while the system is in "setting 2". From that point forward, you would use "setting 2" as a daily driving height, "setting 1" would be full slammed for showing off, and "setting 3" is raised up to get over bumps and driveways.
Crixus SPARTAN Jesse is right, I am running the Airlift Performance kit on my GTI. You figure out where exactly you want your daily ride height and get an alignment done at that height.
this seems actually practical. I'm with Farah, I've always associated air suspension for compromised comfort beaters. Not in the context of "performance." I'm still not totally sold on this idea for use on "sporty" applications. It did seem to hold up well on those canyon roads, but what about long term? The consistency of conventional suspension is pretty predictable but how would the air suspension hold of if its a weekend occasional track car? Doing laps around local tracks? Would there be significant heat build up in the air system that would lead to failure would be my fear. Then again most likely a weekend track car/scca solo event car probably wouldn't have air suspension. But if a air suspension COULD withstand it, the practicality side of it and potential performance side of it and dynamic of combining the two would be fantastic. Other questions I also pondered is the amount of hardware that seemed to need to be added to the vehicle to use such system. It seemed like a lot of parts, all of which look very heavy, even an extra tank to hold air seems like a lot of added weight. I personally hate adding extra unnecessary weight as I feel it inhibits all the characteristics that ruin a sporty car. That being said I'm glad that there is at least new ideas that spur the imagination to create system such as these, and that eventually there will be a system in place that would benefit both practicality and performance without sacrifices.
Seems like a neat idea, but for owners of sportcars, I dunno. Added complexity and weight and more things to break down, besides whether it can withstand constant abuse at speed. I don't like the slammed look at all and wonder why many ppl do. The main thing is to have the best performance, not a system that tries to fulfill all roles, it's just not practical or realistic.
that's bumpy? Take that setup on the crossbronx expressway and hit an audi sized pothole or a 2 foot raise in the middle of the road from the combined weight of 200,000 18 wheelers driving on it everyday ( probably delivering your air suspension).
ottawabmx If you would stop comparing manuals to 1960`s automatics, you would realise that they are faster and consumes less fuel. And bacicly are better in anyway..
ottawabmx Oh pls tell me about manual more, i have never driven it... I used to like manual, then i got my fist amg mercedes... no going back to stone age.
i can tell you right now they're not intended for race use. having a suspension which changes rideheight constantly messes up alignment. A proper track alignment will only work at 1 very specific ride height--not to mention that a car should be corner balanced. the air suspension, though it looks cool, is none of these things
Accuair sell both leveling and non leveling systems. On a vehicle intended or built for a track, you would typically install a non leveling system. For road vehicles you can install either system. Accuair supply air suspenstion systems for most makes of vehicle. The kits are engineered and designed specifically for the vehicle so there are absolutely no issues with rubbing or punctures. The system maybe subjected to air leaks depending on how well the system was installed. If its carried out by a professional installer, there a no issues guaranteed 👍
Great looking S4! I'm glad to see that this set up handles well. How do you deal with proper wheel alignment? Seems like constant adjustment /car leveling would kill the tires?
+Adrian T he'll yeah I'm for real. 96 Camry's are so underrated so it would be cool too see one done up right. My car has low mileage so if I had the money I would. My friend says it could be done. It's all about being out side the box & being unique. :)
Rickrains I know it would, but due to my Camry having low miles thus being a car with rare options makes my car worth a bit more & if I had the means to do a setup like this would be unique & very cool.
If you're going to be successful, you need to be prolific, and Drive and TST offer me twice as many opportunities to produce content. Drive pays us on the front end, TST pays us on the back end, and we retain ownership of our content at TST, which we do not on drive. Think of our bank accounts as a 55 gallon drum with ten hoses going in there, all on trickle. That's how you have to make a living.
The whole point of the kit is that you can get whatever struts you want, from stock, if you're starting with a good car, to Koni, KW, Tokico, or whatever the hell suits your purpose. This kit comes with way more hardware and software than a coilover kit that comparing them on price alone makes no sense whatseover.
The fully slammed stance looks a bit ghetto. In my opinion the rim should never be inside the wheel well. Still, it does look great on low stance (not fully slammed though) Audi's are meant to be classy cars, not ghetto shit.
TheJacob910 I'm not saying Accuair is not a good system, I would love to have one on my S5, it's just that when it's parked and they set it to lowest height, the stance is not proportioned anymore it's like the car is sitting on the wheels and it doesn't do justice to the car, in my opinion.
I think cars with their wheels below the fender well look ghetto too, but since someone likes it I won't be holier than thou to he or she who chooses it. Having it that low permanently would for sure thrash the car so if it's not ghetto now it will be. Think Yoda voice. "It will be."
If I push my options button on my android device I can click mute to mute the conversation. It's a quiet. "Shut up..." lol I personally would like an air setup. I just wouldn't go with the low setting. Maybe it'd be good for a race if it recammed the wheels flat, but driving on tire edges is good for drifting, not racing.
No, I said the exhaust notes match the in-car. The chase camera shots don't always match the in-car though. We try to get it close but it's impossible to match it every time because those shots are not recorded at exactly the same time. So, when I drove that corner while talking, I accelerated there. When we did the same run with a chase setup, I may have scrubbed the brake a bit with my left foot. So you see me going through the corner two different times in one sequence there.
That's only if it requires adjusting. If you're just driving down the highway or something by yourself, it won't be doing much in the way of pumping and making noises.
I don't know why it would, since you don't drive it on the slammed level. That's just for parking. When you're driving, it's at a normal height and aligned accordingly.
we filmed the in-car bits first, on a truly bumpy road. Then the cops came and kicked us out, so we had to find a different (and significantly less bumpy) road for the exterior shots. Sometimes LA kicks you in the nuts.
If someone want Audi with air suspension is it not easier just to buy Audi with factory installed air suspension. Audi offer adaptive air suspension (which is far more advanced then this and have more options) as option on cars for over 15 years (some models even come with adaptive air suspension as standard).
anon If that was true, this will be totally useless, factory Audi air suspension on lowest setting can't go over speed bump (to be honest I have experience only with A6 allroad quattro which you cant drive in city on lowest settings, it is too low).
Miloš Lazović Exactly. The lowest setting is completely useless, it's for showing not for driving. If we were looking for purely practical mods, sure the factory air suspension is sufficient, but we mod to have it stand out, and therefore want that shit on the ground.
My question is how does this effect alignment and do you need a camber kit to tuck your wheels? Because from what I remember you have to get your car alignment every time your change your suspension height like for coilovers.
+Hoang Nguyen From what I understand, it does the toe and camber to whatever setting or plates you have in your wheel and suspension set up. You can see the rim in the first shot, start to camber back out as the car goes up.
the compressor and battery are in the spare tire well, so the only thing in the trunk is the 5Lb air tank. Probably 1/8 of the total trunk space. The only thing that it impedes really is loading large objects with seats folded down. You could still put a bunch of stuff in the trunk.
"Bumpiest road" ? You should come to Turkey (especially Ankara) man; in our daily roads, you can even break a Hummer' s suspension while driving in a straight line.
you can hear it, but with the regenerative tank system, it doesn't come on very often. Think of a portable tire inflator compressor, but in a sound deadening box in the trunk.
Will S I am currently running Accuair + UAS air bags and I have over 30K miles are daily driving, canyon runs and track/autocrossing on my car and my bags are still going strong. I know some people that have gone 100K miles without having to replace their air bags. They are extremely durable.
according to European Car magazine, which has testing equipment, the Accuair setup outperformed the KW V3 coilover setup, so 10/10ths of a coilover setup is more accurate.
Of the three settings, only one is really for extended driving. So you align it for the middle setting, you go to the high setting briefly if you need clearance, and the low setting is just for parking. I don't imagine it would be much of an issue.
+Zero Ninety no there really wouldnt, come up north our mountain roads don't always have barriers and are almost all national speed limit of 60mph. also if this road was in the uk it would be classes as the smoothest road in the country our roads are that messed up
Tom Duffield The part about the smooth roads is true, though I have experienced worse than Britain. Czech roads for example are terrible. I think I may have to go on a road trip up north though...
the exhaust notes match the in-car because they are recorded on a 2-channel video camera. What you hear from the exhaust is exactly what I'm doing in the car.
It doesn't. I recently did an AccuAir airbag install with my friend on his Lexus LS400. Dual compressors, oversized air tank, lines, and airbags together came out to around 50-60 pounds. The airbags weigh less than the steel coil springs. The bulk of the weight is from the dual air compressors. It performs quite well for a sedan. It's a good system. The guys at Accuair did a fantastic job on it.
I already have Pfadt coilovers on my Corvette and really like them, and I don't need to spend another $5k on another suspension. Thinking about it for the Delorean.
the best part about air suspension is you choose your own height. It's slammed on the ground for demonstration purposes, but your own car could look stock 100% of the time if you wanted.
I don't see how you keep the stock suspension and add the bags? do they replace the springs with the air bags? won't that significantly shorten the life span of the struts and shocks? I would love to eventually go Bagged on my S60R, but I want to know if it will be a good right and if they're pretty reliable
Can you get these on BWM M cars? They don't seem to have anything on their site. If not, is there an equivalent product compatible with BMW M series cars? Specifically the M3.
I have this set up on my 06 Audi S4 and I love it. Did a custom install and it helps when you know a guy at AccuAir to answer questions. I have had no alignment issues or anything like that. Once the e-level was installed I took my car to a local tire shop and they did my alignment easily. I don't have excessive tire wear at all.
