I’ve been playing since 88’ The Roc was the first “true” midrange for everyone back when Discraft-Innova-Lightning were everyone’s options. All of Discrafts discs were extremely rubbery and Lightning discs had a very unusual rim. The Roc in DX plastic back then was just such a consistent straight to Os flyer that unless you liked throwing the HD Hawk or Comet or Bearcat…Roc was your best option by far. The glow Rocs from the early 90’s lasted forever. You have to remember that most courses back then were SO much shorter. All anyone needed to compete back then was a Roc, an Aviar and a driver-I liked discraft for that bc when they came out with the Cyclone it hit us disc golfers right in the face-the beginning of discs flying more bc further bc of the technology.
Fistbumps! The Cyclone was EVERYWHERE here in Michigan for sure. There was probably one always in the air at Grand Woods, like how there are Boeing 737's everywhere around the world flying...
@@jacobcolon5295 Back in the '90s they were actually grippy, and consistently so. It was called "Cyclone plastic." I used to love it. It's possible that yours, if from this era, is stiff due to age.
Always love to hear about the past regarding disc golf. It's cool to see the difference 20 plus years makes. The best player I know has and will always have 3 rocs in his bag at all times.
Stuck around my local course one day to help put in a new tee pad. We decided to play out the last 3 when we were done, hole 18 is a 230 tunnel shot. One of the other guys there told me to try the Roc. Thing flew perfectly straight and parked. Been throwing it ever since! Loved this vid, perfect vicarious living while stuck at work w snow on the ground outside
"is the Roc a good disc"? You've been playing for how long? Your question is like asking if the grass is green or is the sky blue...Yes, and water is wet too...
It's the best approach disc in the game for longer approach shots. it's easy to place the fade on a good bid. It's stable enough (disc condition applys) to get on the ground and stay where it hits. Only down side is it's a dx plastic disc you'll go through em trying to keep that shot shape.
Back in '98, the last disc you wanted to lose was your beat in flat top roc. Discraft had to invent the buzzz to compete with that flight. (oversimplification, I know.)
Nice shooting! I started in 1989 (hence the username) and moved to an area with a good club in 1996, when the bug really bit me, and all the good players had an array of Rocs in their bag based on wear. Brand-new ones were stable. You had ones a little beat in that were straight, point and shoot. Medium wear were for flip-hyzers. Then you threw your turnovers with beaten-in Rocs. Not many forehanders back then, but I was one of them, and I wasn't good with Rocs. (I was into X-Clones and Whippets). My 7th grade son today is very good with them, however, pins a 325' hole near us with them, and he likes the real flat glow ones, or KC Pro. The flat glow DX Rocs today are the ones that feel closest to old Rocs from the '90s to me. We've gotten a new DX Roc in the mail that wasn't glow and it was domey and the plastic feels weird and "waxy" like a lot of modern-day Innova DX does. He hates that one, but loves his glow DX Roc. The flatter, the better, he says. He was always good with one I had from 2005. It's finally too beaten-in and adorns our wall. The "Cheese" Roc, as seen here from 2.5 years ago when he was like a foot shorter: ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-bNUlpl8vADw.html. I won that one in a tourney in 2005 in my highest-ever rated round. Al Schack still beat me by 11 out of 24 holes that round. If you really want to feel old school about your Roc in this video, everything should be counted as par 3. We even thought of the 1,000'+ hole at Hudson Mills as a par 3. I mean...Stokely could reach it in 2, and par is supposed to mean what an expert can do. You never heard people say anything was par 4 back then!
Man, I remember those whippets from back the day. They seemed like they were smaller in diameter and stable as hell. Speaking of Rocs, do you remember the old school Rocs that were molded like XD'S. I'm sure you remember what an XD looked like. I'm not sure which manufacturer made those. Either Innova or Discraft. I wish I would've been smart enough to hold on to some of my old back in the day plastic. I'd be sitting on a gold mine
@@larryfaust3907 Yes indeed on the Whippets! For the older Rocs, do you mean the "Classic Roc" ? I remember those, and I believe they made them again fairly recently. I saw a guy at a tournament a couple of years ago who had multiple Champion Classic Rocs from about the year 2001, love my Sidewinder from that same plastic and era!
Same here with the Roc3. When I throw it hard it flies like would expect a Buzzz to do. I ended up getting a Pyro for the overstable midrange spot. I'll also throw the Roc3 slightly nose up to add some stability to it sometimes.
@@mcktwndg I use just 3 5-speeds in my bag IF you count the Justice as a mid and not an approach disc. Fuse by Lat64 and Magma by Obsidian Discs (hometown company but a solid disc). I throw a lot of putters instead of mids except for the Fuse which I do throw quite a bit.
@@1andonlyMiro how do you like the fuse and not like the buzzz? That makes no sense. I have both and they feel the same in hand. Especially if you compare a buzzz in z plastic, to a fuse in opto plastic.
I don't think its the discs. What works for one doesn't work for another. Everyone throws a little different. Disc reviews are just general knowledge. A pro throws a disc and everyone buys one and then says it isn't good. Everyone thinks they are on the pro tour.