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Is Bills' Josh Allen Overrated? Who are the Top-5 QBs Right Now? || The Greg Hill Show 

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@GLA45Amg716
@GLA45Amg716 3 месяца назад
Judging a qb based on Super Bowl wins is just crazy
@sugarbets7048
@sugarbets7048 3 месяца назад
I like how the one guy doesn’t care how the players play or what happened in games
@DWilliams-ce8nb
@DWilliams-ce8nb 3 месяца назад
Brock Purdy is probably the second Most Successful QB in the NFL. Football is a team sport. 1. A QB's is job is to get the ball to his playmakers. 2. The Chiefs BARELY beat Purdy in the Super Bowl. 3. The 9ers aren't Supermen. They have superior coaching/scheming. As do the Chiefs.
@sandy2nyc
@sandy2nyc 3 месяца назад
Between July 18, 2020 and July 18, 2024, Josh Allen has accounted for the most touchdowns by a quarterback, with 174 combined passing, rushing, and receiving touchdowns. Mahomes had 151 and Hebert is 3rd with 125. Diggs averaged 42 yards a game last 10 games last year. Are you kidding me???
@andrewambrusko3651
@andrewambrusko3651 3 месяца назад
Unfortunately stats aren't something these guys take into consideration Sandy they just watch 30 second espn clips and assume a narrative
@therellim
@therellim 3 месяца назад
Bald Dude- "Josh Allen is overrated because he had ONE elite WR on his team" Same Bald Dude- "Joe Burrow is ELITE" (fails to mention Burrow had TWO elite WRs and a stellar 3rd)
@jwestphal1978
@jwestphal1978 3 месяца назад
As a life long Bills fan and all around NFL fan as well as 25+ yr veteran of fantasy football, that it's utterly ridiculous to call Josh Allen overated! Here is exactly why! Where did he go to school? Who wanted him? Despite all of that, the desperate Bills took him, after trading away the pick for a great short lived CB, and Mahomes gets picked by the Chiefs! Allen goes to a dumpster fire! New regime, made a splash last season! Mahomes rides the pine until needed on a team that had made the playoffs with a Superbowl losing head coach who is great, but hadn't completed the final goal! Allen had Zay Jones, Kelvin Benjamin, and, Maybe Isiah Hodgens! The fact that Allen isn't on the all NFL 100 pick six list, while Mahomes, Jackson, Burrows, Prescott, are all on it! Yes he throws picks! He threw the most last season! He also scored more TD even if you subtract the picks then Jackson! The bias is real! And it's utterly ridiculous! Even Brady says the guy is special!
@stickman1742
@stickman1742 3 месяца назад
The defense by Orlovsky is poor. Outside of Mahomes, there are no great qbs. Josh Allen isn't even close to Mahomes, he is a bad turnover machine. He would be much worse if the Bills didn't play so conservative and Allen is the reason why they play conservative. Whenener they open it up, Allen's turnovers skyrocket. Josh is lucky he plays on a team that annually gives up about the fewest points in the league. Orlovsky is the poster boy on why Allen is so overrated. A lot of these media guys want to pump up qbs because they want fans to be more interested in their team and follow the sport more. Good for business. Allen is diverse in that he can lose games with picks or by fumbling. So even when the Bills have him run a lot, which is his best attribute, he still manages to blow games by putting it on the ground at the worst moments. Sorry, I've watched too many games where Allen single-handled loses a game to an inferior team with poor play. People wonder why these lose to some teams, Allen is the most common reason by laying an egg in games that should have been a layup. Of course, Allen can make great plays and no one will deny he has tremendous talent at the position. The problem is all the really bad mistakes he makes especially in crucial moments that costs the team games. And this is with the coaches protecting him from himself. There's Mahomes and everybody else and I don't care if someone puts Allen 2 or not as the gap between Mahomes and the rest is huge.
@TheChrisPhoenix
@TheChrisPhoenix 3 месяца назад
Same dude that defended Carson Wentz for what felt like a decade.
@ThePfizerMiser
@ThePfizerMiser 3 месяца назад
One guy had 18 int the other had 14 one is a turnover machine and the other is a messiah that could spit at the pope and fans would cheer. Just say you’re an idiot and be done with it
@jeromejasper8947
@jeromejasper8947 3 месяца назад
So a guy that leads the league in touchdowns for 4 Straight seasons and is in the MVP conversation every year is overrated okay buddy if you say so
@robertschoelerman7496
@robertschoelerman7496 3 месяца назад
You are a idiot bilks gave to he second highest win rate in football behind KC bills are considered one of the more aggressive teams in the NFL Josh has more over all touchdowns then mahomes by far so stop it what games are u watching bilks win there division wry seasonbillsdont sniff the playoffa with out josh that is how umportanto the team he is all u can say because u have no rwal argumwnt is josh turns the ball over alot stop copying what ithwrs say abd yse yiyr own mind to spite those tyrnovers josh still wins evwry seaon at a high rate that is the talent he is so get facts i woukd take allen over any qbnot named mahomrs period you a troll dude brett favre has the most turnovers in nfl history look where he at hall of fame you can over come things like that when u are great
@robertschoelerman7496
@robertschoelerman7496 3 месяца назад
O h by the what games u watching josh is 21tds to Turnovers in the playoffs 2nd to mahomes playoffs are crucial guess it ain't Josh losing those games for buffalo what u watching 13 second game was defense last season Steph diggs drops 2wide open perfect passes bass misses a field goal and bills was playing with a 3rd string guys on defense due to injurys these are facts stop lieing u look stupid
@ricblic901
@ricblic901 3 месяца назад
Josh Allen has had the perfect game, I'm pretty sure most of you people in Boston would have watched that game. Hell Billy B. went into the Bills locker room after the game to congratulate Allen. When I said perfect it was just that. 7 possessions 7 TD's. But here it the stat most people forget in that game there was only one play outside of a penalty that went for negative yards. That was against the 4th best D and it was a playoff game.
@orphy6869
@orphy6869 3 месяца назад
@@ricblic901 2nd scoring defense in the league that year
@lek116
@lek116 3 месяца назад
How can you say that Manning wasn’t overrated because he won two Superbowls yet he didn’t win his first Superbowl until his 9th season and Josh has only played 5 seasons thus far in the league… lol like what?
@mafiamom3556
@mafiamom3556 Месяц назад
Give me anyone who called Diggs a top 5 WR before he had Allen? Diggs never finished top 10 in catches or yards before Buffalo. Bills defense has consistently been horrible in post season. The Bills defense gives up a full score more in Allen era in post season, than KC in Mahomes era in post season and over 10 points more than Bengals defense in Burrows era. Allen left the field with a lead in one game vs Mahomes. Another he had 3 deep passes dropped and a missed fg at the end. Unless you are telling me Allen is supposed to play defense, catch his own dimes, and kick fgs, idk how you come out of those games thinking Allen isn’t good enough.
@ADeep007
@ADeep007 Месяц назад
Brady never won when he had Randy Moss, so the QB winning in their prime with a top 5 WR argument is dumb as hell.
@franco4922
@franco4922 3 месяца назад
Ya that’s what the Pats need, Josh Allen to feel like he is being disrespected and kick teams butt even more. Can we stop please. He has already the perfect game against the Pats.
@larryferguson3853
@larryferguson3853 3 месяца назад
Then how is he overrated if you are saying he is number two or three. You are sounding like Nick Wright. But I get it you New England fans. And I am sorry he is not that far from Mahomes give Josh Andy Reid and then tell me he wouldn’t have won multiple Super Bowls.
@orphy6869
@orphy6869 3 месяца назад
Allen is UNDERRATED…Allen is an all time great QB and Allen is the best QB in the league
@Xero1125
@Xero1125 3 месяца назад
Josh allen had steph diggs who for a bit yes was a top 5 WR, he never had a run game till 2023, never had a top 15 O-line until 2023, gabe Davis never became what they hoped, They did have a descent slot WR in Beasly for 3 years (but he was past his prime). But it takes more then having one great WR. HOneslty it takes having a good O-line which will give you a serviceable Run game at the very least. Patrick had Hill and Kelcy, and when hill left they hit on all their draft picks and had a top 5 Defense, Mahommes has had a top 3 Oline every year he has played, he has the the second greatest Offensive coach in hisotry, behind Bill walsh. Josh allen has had 3 differnt OCs. Josh has done way more with way less. And the 2nd and 3rd losses to the Chiefs were not d/t his play (defense pooped the bed in 2021 (13 second game), and last year diggs drops a pefect pass 60 yard bomb to put them on the 20 yard line with 2:30 left and then bass misses a very makeable FG to go to OT (sure maybe the chiefs go down in 30 seconds and win), and they had 4 defensive starters out (Bendord, Milano, Bernard, white), 2 which are 1st team all pros in Milano and White, then there was Von miller who was not Von Miller. its hard to win games when 37% of your total salary cap is on the side lines or coming back from ACL) unfortunatle Josh cant catch and play defense. his career playOFFS Josh has had 5 turnovers, 4 of which came in 2022 (just a bad year all around for buffalo), but other wise his 4 other playoff years he combined for 22 TDs and 1 turn over. THe dude is a machine.
@aceassn716
@aceassn716 3 месяца назад
Allen was lucky that fumble Jones ripped out from him went out of bounds.. that happened on that missed kick drive Talk about a sign of bad things to come
@dorothyhunter4656
@dorothyhunter4656 3 месяца назад
It's just josh turn this week to get hated on. Next week it be someone else . But 💯 agree with u
@Xero1125
@Xero1125 3 месяца назад
@@aceassn716 look at how many fumbles Mahommes has had in the playoffs that got recovered by his team, it happens. But yes i do agree that play had my heart jumped up into my chest lol
@apine13
@apine13 3 месяца назад
@@Xero1125 how many?
@donr5113
@donr5113 3 месяца назад
@@apine13 11 in the playoffs....only lost 1. If that isn't lucky what is? A few of them go the other way no way they win in the playoff let alone make the super bowl.
@jamesjazzy8040
@jamesjazzy8040 3 месяца назад
Josh Allen is #1 !
@steveoshei1819
@steveoshei1819 3 месяца назад
Mark Duper was a top 5 receiver for a 4 year span. Most of this panel was very logical, but there's always 1 unintelligent guy ( the bald guy in this case) on every show.
@quedorf
@quedorf 3 месяца назад
Why do we keep up with this Allen loses to Mahommes nonsense. I do not remotely consider myself an expert, but football is a team sport. That includes defense, offense, special teams, and coaching. And more than most sports I find coaching in football to be very critical. If we strictly swapped QBs from Bills to Chiefs, what would the outcome be? People need to stop reducing a team to one player, because it is not. And this idea that super bowl wins dictates how good an individual player is, is foolish. If this were correct, Marino, and Sanders would be considered overrated. This is such nonsense it isn't even worth listening to.
@GLA45Amg716
@GLA45Amg716 3 месяца назад
Lamar can’t pass as good as Josh like cmon
@dorothyhunter4656
@dorothyhunter4656 3 месяца назад
Last time i checked stefon diggs is a route runner/deep threat. How lamar gonna get the ball to him if he's a LIMITED PASSER. Ok someone gave u money under the table to say that 😂😂😂😂
@rickyrosas4222
@rickyrosas4222 3 месяца назад
I'll put joe burrow 2 and allen 3 or 4 I don't think Josh allen is overrated but he has underachieving tho with the offensive weapons he has.
@donr5113
@donr5113 3 месяца назад
Gotta be available for game day for the 2nd spot. Glass Joe missed about 1/3 of his starts in 4 years, definition of overrated. Misses 1/3 of his starts but #2...yea ok.
@rickyrosas4222
@rickyrosas4222 3 месяца назад
@donr5113 ok how that overrated ok yeah 2 season been hurt the short career joe has had did more than allen right if he was good as burrow he would have a super appearance and 2 afc championship appearance and what josh allen has done in his 7 or 9 year career besides choke aginst mahomes and burrow and I wish analyst would kept this state even tho it's not a state when a game is close and bills up 3 or a tie joshy chokes like Tony Romo 🤣
@donr5113
@donr5113 3 месяца назад
@@rickyrosas4222 Lol all you clowns claiming Burrow did something...It was the Bengals not Burrow....7--9 year career? You mean 6 years? Facts must be something that eludes your brain. Funny how Burrow is only one year younger but has missed a season and a half of games more than Allen. Younger usually means healthier, right?But yea keep backing the guy that gets hurts every time he gets touched...like Andrew Luck gonna retire in about 2 years. I'll stick w/ the guy that will actually have a sack to play when injured even though it may affect his stats. LOL glASS Joe gonna retire because of a hangnail! Puss to the max. Only a blind idiot would compare Romo to Allen...so u know what that means.
@lesliechow7286
@lesliechow7286 3 месяца назад
@@rickyrosas4222 what weapons does he have? You all are getting fooled by the media.
@rickyrosas4222
@rickyrosas4222 3 месяца назад
@lesliechow7286 ok he had diggs he had cooks he had Gabe Davis and his rookie tight end that should be the stater and that up and coming wide out Shakur he had weapons those guys on the roster it was better than what mahomes had at wide out because mahomes had no body but only Pacheco and kelce. It's facts he had weapons.
@dorothyhunter4656
@dorothyhunter4656 3 месяца назад
This guy said 😂😂 lamar could win with stefon diggs 😂😂😂😂.
@T.R.75
@T.R.75 3 месяца назад
lol Allen needs to get better? gtfo. minus the SB wins, Allen is hands down the top player in the NFL, right now, even without Diggs. guy should have been MVP last season, but its given to a QB who cant throw when it matters and had 20 less TDs than Josh. theres maybe 2 teams in the NFL that wouldnt take Josh as their QB this coming season if they had a chance at him, whatever the cost might be. watching people try and find reasons to actually back up this "Allen is overrated" garbage is hilarious. almost as hilarious as this countries political situation. football is a team game. Allen hasnt lost to Mahomes. Mahomes has beaten the Bills defense. the Bills rarely ever lose because of Josh, and they rarely win without him making amazing plays. asinine to try and validate any claim that Allen is overrated. lol hes been in the league 6 years, playoffs 5 years, broken nearly every QB record for a player in their first 6 years, something Mahomes hasnt done. put up a nearly perfect game vs a Belichick defense in the playoffs. theres 3 guys who make ridiculous plays day in day out in the NFL. Mahomes, Allen, Jackson. 2 of them can do it with their legs and arms. one can only do it with his legs. Manning didnt win anything until year 9, and he didnt have Harrison then. so that point is trash. Burrow is hurt all the time. Cincy didnt beat the Chefs because of Burrow. more trash. bald guy is trying to die on his hill.
@jf13579
@jf13579 3 месяца назад
Three copium addicts discuss fantasies they experience in their minds.
@rickyrosas4222
@rickyrosas4222 3 месяца назад
Joe burrow would have had won multiple super bowl and allen would have to go threw burrow and allen hasn't beat him yet either
@robertschoelerman7496
@robertschoelerman7496 3 месяца назад
Woulda could shoulda burrow has t done it either here is a fun fact for u there are only 3 QBs to beat mahomes 3 times in a row Brady burrow and Allen not Lamar so out that in your pipe and smoke it facts are a killer ain't they
@rickyrosas4222
@rickyrosas4222 3 месяца назад
@robertschoelerman7496 well has allen did it in the playoffs nope has burrow or true facts sorry bro and and poor joshy hasn't beaten burrow so yeah and the short time burrow in the nfl made a super appearance and two afc championship game how many times joshy been to the super bowl or made an appearance in his what 7 year career oh wait it was 0 and burrow 1 appearance and who was it aginst oh mahomes in the playoffs and yeah he beat mahomes in the regular season but mahomes undefeated aginst josh allen in the playoffs and plus if I had to compare josh allen to any former player it would be Tony Romo because he chokes like him when the game on the line.
@donr5113
@donr5113 3 месяца назад
Newsflash....Burrow didn't beat Allen...the Bengals beat the Bills. Need to actually finish the season to make a super bowl u clown.
@jeremytaft8247
@jeremytaft8247 3 месяца назад
@@rickyrosas4222 Lmao I’m sorry I know it’s mean to laugh at head injuries but it can’t be helped in this case🤣. Burrow never beat Mahomes in the playoffs cause he was better than Allen. The Bengals won because their defense did exactly what the Bills defense didn’t do and also needed KC to choke an entire 2nd half cause he wasn’t able to go toe to toe with them.
@rickyrosas4222
@rickyrosas4222 3 месяца назад
@jeremytaft8247 dude go do your facts ok burrow beat mahomes how they got to the super bowl and who they played aginst in the afc championship to go to the super bowl you must not watch to much football there buddy and burrow beat both josh allen and mahomes in the playoffs we ain't talking about regular season because that don't mean squat unless you can beat them in the playoffs.
@danielplatts5936
@danielplatts5936 3 месяца назад
bald guys mouth is over rated
@aceassn716
@aceassn716 3 месяца назад
Josh allen turns the ball over too much
@donr5113
@donr5113 3 месяца назад
Josh Allen scores too much
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