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Is Buying an 8K Camera Overkill? 

Ash von Chamier
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Are you in the market for a new camera and torn between investing in a 4K camera or taking the dive into 8K? Is an 8K camera overkill for your needs? What is it like dealing with 8K footage on your computer in your editor? How does it behave in Adobe Premiere. What is the experience difference between 8K RAW or compressed H2.65? I go over all of this in my take on having owned both an 8K Canon R5 C camera after first getting a 6K RED Epic Dragon and coming from filming with 2 different 4K Sony cameras.
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@aashaaronstudios9328
@aashaaronstudios9328 9 месяцев назад
You are a very generous teacher - thx!
@AshvonChamier
@AshvonChamier 8 месяцев назад
Your most welcome buddy! Thanks for letting me know you found it valuable.
@Michael-it6gb
@Michael-it6gb 4 месяца назад
At this point I think it is. I've seen several Content creators on RU-vid that uploaded their 4k footage for several years, when this new craze was around and had it's peak in 2017-2020, and then they went back to uploading 1080p in the last couple of years, because it's just not all that important for the space it takes up. I mean doing 8K video constantly will fill up your 1TB SD card pretty quickly. I would record in 8K on the regular basis if storage, internet bandwidth and compression time wasn't an issue.
@AshvonChamier
@AshvonChamier 4 месяца назад
For regular content creation weekly, TOTALLY AGREE. However, for clients paying well for projects that take months in the editing room, the 6K and 8K pay off in amazing ways both with the end product and monetarily.
@scottievee7467
@scottievee7467 9 месяцев назад
Great insight. Thanks. I normally shoot with C70's but I forced myself to shoot an entire spot with my R5c in CLog3. The image is gorgeous. So nice to handle. I had it semi-rigged out and the client was like, wow... big camera. I had to laugh. I didn't need 8k but the wides/mediums in the same shot is an idea I've wanted to try as you talk about. I have an Anton Bauer battery that I'd have to switch back to a V-mount. Super bad ass retro mods. What a dream client.
@AshvonChamier
@AshvonChamier 9 месяцев назад
Nice! Yeah, the R5 C when rigged out honestly can impress a client, lol. Especially once you throw a bigger monitor on there. Also, in adobe premiere, by default, the RAW files (specially RAW, not XF-AVC) are set to CLOG2! While it does not offer the option in camera, it seems to be there in editing. I go back and forth between grading with CLOG2 or CLOG3 and they deliver such different results, it makes me think the CLOG2 is legitimately CLOG2. This is another bonus to filming in RAW on the R5 C. They are an amazing client to have access to. Especially with me living in Tallahassee, Florida where it is surprising a client this cool exist! The entire relationship started with me cold emailing them 10 years ago, showing them a couple of creative videos I had at the time, and telling them I wanted to make a video for them for free to broaden my portfolio.
@Angelo_Paduraru
@Angelo_Paduraru 9 месяцев назад
I suppose you have an amd threadripper processor, well that threadripper processor can’t natively decode h265 422 10bit, the only processors what can natively decode are the intel 12, 13 and 14 gen, and the Apple m1 and m2. They decode like butter that h265. I have the i9 12900k and works flawlessly with those codecs. I use the R5 and yes, 8k it’s very nice!! Nice video!
@KarlevidProductions
@KarlevidProductions 9 месяцев назад
I have Intel Core i9 13900K 3.0 GHz 68MB but the 265 8k is impossible to edit without proxies, 8k raw runs smooth tho, but what you are saying it’s supposed to run smooth with my intel?
@Angelo_Paduraru
@Angelo_Paduraru 9 месяцев назад
@@KarlevidProductions Yes, to me 8k 24fps h265 422 10bit works smooth, but keep in mind that its 24fps because eos R5 doesn’t have 8k 60fps, only 24,25,30fps. Anyway works very good, smooth. Some notice: be sure your processor to be the K version not the KF because the KF version doesn’t have integrated graphics inside processor. And be sure the IGPU (internal graphics) are activated from bios. If the igpu it’s not activated, will not work good, actually will be totally inactive.
@AshvonChamier
@AshvonChamier 9 месяцев назад
Actually I have the AMD Ryzen 9 5950X 16-Core Processor on my main editing station. However, I also have a macbook pro. Not the most powerful one but nonetheless, I have not tried the H.265 on it. Maybe I will give it a whirl sometime. However, that RAW is just so glorious with the 12bit color. I don't have much reason to get H.265 to work. But I do think it is good to know if it does work for people who are looking at buying a different cam that doesn't offer 8K in a RAW format. Thanks for sharing you experience.
@Angelo_Paduraru
@Angelo_Paduraru 9 месяцев назад
@@AshvonChamier amd doesn’t decode h265 422 10bit, only intel 12, 13, 14 gen and Apple m1/2. Like I said, my intel i9 12900k playback like butter 8k h265 422 10bit from canon R5, with color grading applied and in full resolution playback in premiere pro.
@AshvonChamier
@AshvonChamier 9 месяцев назад
@@Angelo_Paduraru Very interesting. Thanks!
@marvinshaouni
@marvinshaouni 9 месяцев назад
Another great, informative video. Curious to know what size memory cards you’re using and how much data you record in 8K on a typical one day shoot? Thanks!
@AshvonChamier
@AshvonChamier 9 месяцев назад
Wonderful. Thanks for letting me know you found the info valuable. I am using the AngelBird CF Type B Cards. I have two of their 1TB. Had an issue with one of the two when I first go them, returned/exchanged for another, no issue since. I mostly film in 8K Raw Lite on the R5C. My backup/subrecording SD cards are 128GB ProGrade SDXC. How much data come back with depends on the type of shoot. For live event filming for a whole day, I usually still don't surpass a 1TB CF card. If it is a controlled shoot where we are doing takes. Usually bring back somewhere between 300 - 5OOGB on the CF Cards and fill up 2-4 SD cards. I price dedicated hard drive space for my clients project into their project bid. For tax purposes, I list these drives as COST OF GOODS SOLD. While I don't give the clients the hard drives with all the footage, the footage will live on the drive for at least the next 3 years. This is good for if more edits are needed in the future. If they become a regular client, I will never delete the footage off of the drives. I do have a short video about my experience with the AngelBird card here if interested. They were the best priced cards in the market at the time I was looking. They may still be? ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-aHXveu1-wyg.html&t
@marvinshaouni
@marvinshaouni 9 месяцев назад
@@AshvonChamier Thanks for the additional info! So helpful! As a photographer, I can't imagine not shooting in RAW, but because of how large 8k footage ends up being I've been avoiding it. I recently purchased four 512GB AngelBird CF Type B cards and will purchase a few more SD cards to records proxies. Keep 'em coming!
@charlyduque8521
@charlyduque8521 9 месяцев назад
Prefiero tener la opción disponible pero mi computadora no lo soporta 🤣
@AshvonChamier
@AshvonChamier 9 месяцев назад
Totally get it. The 8K cameras all offer great 4K filming options as well so it may still be something to consider when investing in the camera, that you are future proofed for when you eventually get a more powerful computer.
@18PregnantAndProud
@18PregnantAndProud 9 месяцев назад
Yes
@AshvonChamier
@AshvonChamier 9 месяцев назад
HAHA! To each their own.
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