I think I would have been wayy cooler if it was a dlc for hunter, call of the wild. Would have been cool to do both fishing and hunting in the same game
That's not how bussines works,they know what they are doing.Make you buy 2 games (one if u already own cotw) which are basically the same games,like you said this feels more like just a dlc to cotw
A DLC wouldn't have been very good because all the mechanics are different. Fishing would have been made very basic, not to mention a huge project to make fishing work on all their maps, and redesigning every map in order to have access to boats. The amount of work they'd have to do to make fishing a DLC, would be more work than just making a stand alone fishing game, so they did that. Plus, they'll make more money overall compared to selling a DLC. I think 'The Angler' is actually more feature intensive than 'The Hunter', so it might actually be more realistic to do the opposite. To add wildlife and basic hunting abilities in The Angler, but honestly I'd just be happy with them adding wildlife for the ambience, not necessarily hunting. Would be nice spotting a deer drinking on the shore, and some ducks feeding in the marshes to go with all the ambient sound of animals the game has, but no actual animals. That's weak.
My biggest gripe other than mentioned is not staying in first person when you carch the fish. Before the fish is even netted or pick up it swaps to third person with no animation
I'm pretty disappointed in theAngler. I was really hoping for an industry leading fishing game or if not that at least something that looks and plays as good as Call of the Wild. I dislike everything from the fishing mechanics, fish models and animations after being landed, and seeing the fish poorly animated in the water just totally turns me off. The environment looks bland, which is a shame because I do think the water itself looks very good (and considering Call of the Wild took my breath away with many of its maps just has me scratching my head as to what went wrong here). I play Fishing Planet super casually since it's so greedy with its monetization and was looking forward to getting invested into this game. Maybe with future updates it might be something, but right now all my hype is gone.
Passing on this game after watching more of it doesn't look any better than the ones I already play I'll just save the 30 and get a box of bullets for squirrel or goose here in a couple days
@@AgentXRifle damn sorry to hear that bud I'm trying to take advantage of the free time while I'm still young hope your able to get out at some point and have a good time
As someone who fished around 6 days a week - the main thing for me is the time it’s taking to land fish and also the strength of the line breaking is so so off - especially when people are breaking off on 5-8lbers on 20lb braid
Tournaments and online events would be huge, Some form of photo album in the short term but long term a trophy lodge Less large fish as I think diamonds are too common Fixing the camera in the keep and the car Adding far more rods and baits Overall I truly believe patience will prevail and it will get better the devs really try to listen and evolve
Tournaments to see who can catch the biggest fish would be amazing! They could also do this with the hunter cotw, first to bag a great one (and/or the most amount of diamonds) wins (both tournaments would be on fresh starts with no dlc installed besides reserves, starting after they finish the tutorial, unless they can figure a way to skip it). They can do these tournaments by map as well, a tournament on each map in both games
I've said this elsewhere, but there are two communities here: theHunter community (for whom this game was essentially made) and players of other fishing games. theHunter players will probably enjoy this, at least at first. But for anyone who has played any other fishing game regularly, even "arcade" games like Ultimate Fishing Simulator or Dovetail's games (Euro Fishing; Fishing World Simulator; The Catch, etc.), is almost certainly going to be bored with the simple fishing mechanics in theAngler. While not quite as basic as the fishing in Red Dead Redemption 2, it is pretty close. EW needs to apay attention to the fishing community also if they want this to be even a moderate success; openworld and fishing with buddies are all pluses, but the core experience needs to be the fishing itself, and that is currently lacking.
Fishing Planet is not better. You adjust the break to the fish and then you just keep pressing the left mouse button till you got the fish. Takes zero skill.
@@Platoon1sc I was hoping someone told you wrong and made me discover a wholesome game. I really don't enjoy the way finding the hotspot is the mist important thing in the game
Looked interesting at first, after watching videos though the actual fishing gameplay seems to lack any real challenge even compared to more casual fishing games.
@@jayhob1114 it is completely true. All you have to do in Call of the Wild is sleep at a lodge to drink zone times and bam. Infinite farming. It’s just a fast-paced target range.
@@sigstenbockgard8080 Only way a fish can get off your line, is if they break the line. They can never shake the hook. There isn't even a challenge to fighting fish. Only took me a few big catches to realize all fish movements are 100% predictable. When catching any fish that takes drag, pump when they run until they stop running, then drop rod and start reeling. You'll see the tension drop to near zero while you're reeling, which 100% signals the fish is about to run again, so pull back on rod and bingo, fishing tries to run. Repeat. Every fish behaves the exact same way. Once you figure this mechanic out, every fish becomes Glass Joe, and all challenge is lost. Yes, they could make it plenty more challenging, but as it stands fishing in this game is 100% cookie cutter for all fish. This means, they made it as little of a challenge as physically possible.
I'm sure if they could have they would have made it dlc. But as buggy as cotw already is I'm sure it just wasn't an option. And honestly I'd bet EW didn't even want to make this, this feels community pushed
I don’t know, I may be biased because I’m a fisherman but either way I believe the money would be worth it. That’s like saying call the hunter basically should’ve been a DLC as well at least that’s how I see it.
Im gonna have to hold off on this game. I think it could do a lot better than what's currently there. The devs certainly can do it, but rn its not hitting for me.
They should add fly fishing and maybe a map that is in an ocean with a tiny island and maybe a map in the plains with farms so you can go fish in farm ponds or big lakes and rivers and if it rains to much the roadside ditches flood and fish can get in there
I know better than to question your integrity, but there is just not enough content or realism to justify buying this as a standalone game/sim. There is simply too much to criticise, too much of an arcade feel and too little realism to make me even consider it.
Nobody is above their integrity being questioned. Those who are truly void of corruption should have no issue being questioned. This video was made in very poor taste without the consumers best interests in mind.
It's a great idea of a game to get non-fishing-simulator players like me into the genre, but wow does it look like it needs a lot of love. Motion sickness from the camera following the rod is an immediate 'no' from me until that's fixed. The lack of lodges, f12 snapshots of a crash test dummy and no album to then review them in seems like a very big misstep. The water itself (and this may by YT compression) looks spongy and not as good as the shaded used in Hunter COTW. Catch a diamond of each and then, er, done? I think EW has a good idea in this game, but it needs a lot of work and some idea of when things are coming (lodges, maps, more species, remade player character models) before it will get my money. Thanks for the honest review.
The game is literally "early access" beta. Probably why it feels like that. You're still better off picking it up while it's on sale now and save $10.00, plus get the free DLC expansion map for Norway before they charge full price for that too.
@@Houtka86 To my knowledge, just about every non-independent game becomes available for "pre-purchase", where manyt people pay full price for a game even 6 months before it's even released and playable. But here they let you play while they're developing, which to me is a lot better. And to be honest, The Angler is already a lot better than games like "Fishing Planet", where everything is blocked behind a paywall or level wall. You're free to wait to pick it up, although it's guaranteed to be one of the top (if not the top) fishing game on the market. And right now it's on sale... but if you'd feel better waiting until it's full price and the DLC isn't free anymore, you're free to be the genius you apparently are.
@@Houtka86 You never had a point. You took a game that's in early access, and by definition "not finished", and decided it was worth your time to say the game feels "unfinished". smh...
Im probably gonna pass on purchasing this game bcuz i would rather just hit the Allegheny river near my house and fish IRL 😂 And i already have Fishing sim world and i dont play it that much.. honestly i wish EW would have focused on The Hunter cotw game instead of making this game..
Hey man love your videos. Just one tiny piece of criticism if you don't mind, your thumbnails have a red border around them but I've missed heaps of videos because the red makes it look like I've already watched the video. It could be just me but its better to bring it up just in case theres a bleed of viewers . Keep up the good hunt!
Comparing this to the casual play style of theHunter is really helpful! I think I'd like to see many of the depth/realism improvements you mentioned before I consider picking it up, but perhaps there's another group of players that will enjoy the more casual nature and that'd be exciting for EW too!
I am disappointed with the graphics. After a The Hunter experience I was expecting something extraordinary. As a fisher myself, I just can not accept those robotic hands movements especially during spinning drags. People just don’t stand like this when they’re holding rods! During the pull one slightly moving hands, the rod…and damn! Jigging is not about moving the camera up and down to move the rod)) It’s about the rod being moving up and down while the FOV being stable. Once again..graphics…sheet, the world is just empty and dead, and that water makes me recalling games from 2005 like Oblivion (though the water was better there). In games where the only activity is to observe nature - nature should be great, like in the Hunter! Come on, guys)
Not Spooking fish due to the wrong equipment is the #1 problem with this game. It makes the game just a little too easy. Just fixing that alone would make me enjoy this game so much more
I fully intend to buy the game on release. I don't think I'm going to love the game on Day 1. I do have confidence that the game will get better when they accept feedback and work on it. I love to fish IRL. I love fishing games. Fishing Planet, Ultimate Fishing Simulator 1 & 2, so on and so forth - even going back to games on the NES or SNES. I don't hunt. Don't really want to hunt. But I love Call of the Wild. I bought and tried both Hunting Simulator 2 & Way of the Hunter after reviews on this channel. I did not end up liking either game, which leads me to believe that I don't like hunting games, either - I just like Call of the Wild. That makes me think that even if theAngler doesn't start off great for me, it will become so over time.
while people are saying we shouldn't reward lazy devs who release bad or unfinished games by buying them on day 1, I think we also have to be realistic and accept that these hunting and fishing games are pretty niche, and that consequently, the development budgets are limited. If we as fans of the genre don't buy the game, there is no scope for continued development for it to become a good game. Having said that, this seems a particularly poor effort for an actual dev team with a studio behind them, compared to some one-person dev team's efforts, but I'll give them the benefit of the doubt and buy it, hoping they'll turn it into something fun down the line. Heck, with the current energy prices I can just not shower one time and I'll have recouped the price of the game!
@@Platoon1sc just started it today after playing Fisher Online for a while and it seems very good. Played quite a lot of FP back in the day but again, very different games and target audiences
Talking about having an aquarium for the fish I actually remember a game I had for the Wii when I was younger that was fairly realistic for the time and had multiple aquariums for different areas
I don't want to trash the work the devs have done cause I know they've worked hard to get this game done, but this game is just not gonna be an option until there's some kind of challenge and an aquarium for saving trophies.
Uh yeah sorry this game is atrocious at this point. Maybe with some extensive work this could be something huge but it's pretty much a let down. People can spin it a lot of different ways on RU-vid and give lip service but really?? Watch the game play. Glad to see you gave it pretty much straight Flinter
I'm sorry but this game looks terrible! I understand why Flinter doesn't want to bite the hand that feeds him but encouraging this kind of crap from the developers by pretending any of it is even remotely good is just going to lead to more crap!!
The biggest thing for me is that the game doesn’t have (as far as I know) new game slots, which is very disappointing because at sometime I may want to restart but I won’t want to loose all my trophies, especially when they eventually add trophy lodges and/or aquariums. Which is also my biggest con for The Hunter COTW as well for the same reasons.
After playing this game a while, I noticed a critical flaw. There's a single mechanic and behavior pattern for all fish. No matter what size or species. There's no randomness to fish behavior, and every part of their behavior is on a short loop. When fighting a large fish that takes drag, you'll notice it. You pull rod back when the fish runs until they stop running. Then you lower rod and start reeling. You'll see the tension bar drop to near zero after a couple seconds of reeling, which signals the fish is about to run again, so you can pull back on rod in anticipation and catch it to wear them out as fast as possible. This repeats over and over every few seconds until you've landed the fish. Same on every fish. Same pattern, every few seconds. There's no challenge to landing fish once you realize fish are 100% predictable. A few more gripes: 1. Character arm placement when fighting fish. You can't see anything because your arms are in your immediate front line of view. Not lower where they should be so you can see over them. You'll find yourself trying to angle in order to peek through the small gap near the bottom of your monitor, to even see the fish you're fighting in the water. Pull back on the rod when fighting fish, and your character's hand will fill 80% of your display. It's like they put their hand directly on their face. So stupid. 2. Too many big fish, and not enough fish in general. I was mostly focusing on Rainbow Trout, and out of 10 fish caught, the average size is about 6lbs. 6LBS! There's also no schooling behavior. Just single, sporadic fish scattered around the water. Every fish is a participation trophy, basically. This would be like in 'Way of the Hunter', if the average deer was a 12 point, and all doe had at least 4. >.> 3. There are 4 reeling presentation patterns. Constant, Stop and Go, Jigging and Twitching. Only Constant and Jigging attract fish. After more than 500 fish caught, zero fish were attracted to stop and go or twitching. All fish are caught with Constant and jigging only. 4. Unnatural fish habitats. I checked out the DLC and went up to the farthest, glacial melt pond I could find, which was above numerous high waterfalls that would prohibit fish migration up stream. Know what the pond had? Atlantic Salmon. 20 pounders. 154. It's an online game where you can fish with other people... but there's no chat. No voice chat. Not even text chat. So anyone you group up with, you just stare at each other and randomly do things. OH! But there are 2 dance emotes, and you can do jumping jacks. Any developer should honestly feel ashamed for releasing a game like this.
I really wish this could have been incorporated into the hunter call of the wild, the game looks fun but I'm not hugely into fishing. However if it was in hunter then it would be nice to be able to take a break from hunting and go fish for a bit, or imagine you're fishing on the side of a lake and having deer or a bear or whatever come up next to you and start drinking. Stuff like that would be an awesome experience that you don't really get from any other games.
I'll probably pick it up in a month or so. It's EW so we know it's going to be a mess on release. Even if the streamer version seems okay and there's a new team that works only on The Angler, it's gonna be a mess. Better to just give them those few weeks to maybe iron it out a little more even though EW doesn't really do that.
The whole motion sickness part was spot on. I wanted to try the game out more, but all of the camera movement with the rod and the driving mechanics were just so hard to look at. And like you said it's just really sad because it would've been super easy to have an accessibility option to where the camera doesn't follow the rod, and even the option to go third person in vehicles (which they literally had in thehunter). It really is just poor game design when devs can't figure out proper motion controls, it isn't hard at all and yet they've somehow messed it up by not adding even simple things.
For those who don't already know about "Fishing Planet" it is actually the most realistic fishing game I think the market has to offer and get this, it's FREE. Definitely worth checking in to if you want to fish from your computer.
Just picked up ultimate fishing sim 2 for 9 quid, I'll probably get this in a few weeks after my holiday, much prefer hunting but I have never hunted IRL but I have fished. EDIT: maybe its a case of 'Oh shit, Way of the Hunter is amazing!! Look over here everyone!'.
Everyone saying they gonna hold off on buying the game until the devs improve it. But the devs won’t improve it if no one is buying their game. You have to support them as well as give them feedback
If you play COTW with spotting turned off, as well as all of the helpers and tracking, it's a really hard game. I would put it in the simulation category. It's there as an option if you want the challenge. The fishing game doesn't have a hard mode.
I wish games like this had a "dynamic difficulty"... Have it start out easy to help you learn the game... Then get harder as you get better at the game. Sure let you catch a lot of fish early but make you work for it later. Feel the same way about theHunter.
The thing is tho, that there isn't much content or progression. I got bored of what little it has to offer just watching a couple of streams. Now they're going to dole out new content in tiny spoonfulls over the next few years.
Ultimate fishing simulator 2 just came out as well. It's a true simulator. It's still in early access but things will get fixed. Highly addictive game.
Got it for 15 today. That's a fair price for the state the game is in. I was able to run it on the Steam Deck although it ran pretty badly. If they fix that and manage to make the fishing more exciting, I'm happy.
Just want to say well done on the review. Presenting the information in an objective, honest way so that all potential buyers can make their decision is really the best way to do it. Appreciate the video!
Genre defying? The only thing this game does differently than any other fishing game is have an open world. Doesn't even look at nice as the hunter. I guess as a life long angler I'm probably not the target audience..... say that out loud slowly. Shame 5/10
I'm gonna be honest, as a person who plays all types of games, doesn't like fishing IRL, and having played this game quite a bit, I have no idea what you or anybody else is referring to as "challenge" when talking about games like this, bad gear or best gear I wouldn't say "challenge" is a word that has any place being part of the conversation :/ to me it's just not an activity that ever had "challenge" to begin with. You lure the fish or you don't (some "skill" but mostly just luck and gear type), then you hook it or you don't (this is the only part that involves just "skill"), then if it happens to be stronger than your gear you have a higher chance to snap your line (basically just luck, depends on which fish you catch and how it feels that day, nothing to do with "skill" or "difficulty"). You can see too many fish in a (probably stocked) crystal clear pond is a complaint about challenge??? I simply don't understand anybody mentioning "challenge". Fishing is an activity that is 70% gear setup, 20% luck, 9% Sitting on your ass waiting with nothing happening, and 1% sunburn. In other words, fishing is an activity of knowledge and luck, If your looking for a so-called "challenge" then find a different activity. :/ I like this game though, it feels like fishing but without the annoying parts and with some sort of actual purpose (hur-dur numbers go up). Probably not worth paying for while it's on gamepass but maybe if it leaves gamepass lol
ik some people are dissapointed but i think it will get better and im still buying it day 1. Been waiting for this game for awhile good or not. Ill still enjoy it
I really thought they'd deliver something better than this. They made a big deal about fancy new spawn systems, temperature and so on but from the videos I've seen it really isn't worth it. Not even a proper animation for netting the fish, just a black screen.
Wtf is up with games being released like this??? I don’t understand how you can look at this game and say yea! Its ready to go. I mean I seriously cannot understand releasing something like this. Its actually garbage.
The devs of this game are by far more open to feedback and the community than any other game I’ve seen. Meaning, the game will become better over time to the players considering that the players will have a big impact on this game. I really respect the devs because they seem so dedicated to making this game as best as they possibly can. No hate to TheHunter:COTW but unlike them, I think the devs of TheAngler won’t be lazy enough to not add a new animation or something and they’ll actually put lots of time into making the game very enjoyable:)
@@sgtmonkeypirate no, on their stream they mentioned that theAngler devs and TheHunter devs are completely separate teams. Yes they both are for EW But they are completely seperate
Helpful video, thanks. Think I'll wait for the xbox series x version. By then it'll be long enough to make my mind up. Looks fun though and I love COTW. Waiting for WOTH fixes for xbox.......
Sadly watching this. I think there are other Fishing games that do it better and a tad bit better for value. Just my opinion. Feel like they could have bundled this into the Hunting Sim. Instead of making it into its own game. That would separate it from all those other Fishing Sims.
Question, me and my friends are looking to all get this game. When you go into multiplayer can you play with certain players or are you just put into a random server with other people playing multiplayer.
I'm considering picking this up despite all the comments saying it's bad. I can truly find this game fun to play since I don't really play as many games like I did before.
I don't know why reviewers can't be honest anymore and just say when a game is really bad in the current state. I was really enthusiastic when I heard about The Angler and I was hoping for an awesome new fishing game but what was released yesterday is a very cheap Alpha version which should have never been released! There is at least 1 year of work missing and too many things which are not working yet which is just unacceptable for a game that costs $30. So the video should have ended: Great potential but currently, I CAN'T recommend you to buy this game!
Maby he doesnt think it's bad this game looks awsome and probaly will be better then fishing planet and Russian fishing although I'm on xbox so I cant play yet
Good call, FP is far better for newer players, a mix of arcade and sim without the extreme detail and gear/bait choices of RF4, and without the long hours needed.
@@zulutonic That is why I don't recommend trying to "speed run" fishing planet to people. Do things that you enjoy... I personally always gave myself 1-3 in game days to grind XP after that I would just bounce around different places catching fish I enjoyed. But for some reason in the gaming world everyones focus to to get "max level/end game" as fast as possible and burn out.
I'm sorry to say but this game will never ever beat fishing planet, fishing planted is the most in depth and realistic fishing game you can possibly get and no other will beat it. The hunter cotw is an amazing hunting game though.
lol, rf4 is in another league as far as depth and realistic fishing compared to fp, play hard and fish smart and its all free and no hard sell dlc pop-ups.
Doesnt look anywhere near russian fishing 4, which i found agonisingly grindy but very rewarding, this looks far too arcadey for me and all ive seen in every video is Bass, Trout and Pike... can see how this could get repetitive very quickly
I think multiplayer does share fish I was playing it with my friend and we both saw the same fish by the shore and when he hooked it i could see it struggling, when he caught it he snapped into the photo pose and could see me jumping behind him from that screen
Would love to see a comparison against Ultimate Fishing Simulator 2. It seems to be the one that I have heard most people asking about beside theAngler as they both released at around the same time.
@@Riyame My honest opinion... Out of the fishing games out there right now... I still think Fishing Planet is the best one... But that only classifies if you don't mind the insane grind to level up and unlock better areas to fish and better gear. If you don't like the grind it will get quite boring unless you want to spend a ton of money on DLCs.
To be fair fishing is far more complex, depending on the style of fishing than hunting. the devs will get it. I don't think they should have released it in its current state however lacks a lit of content and polish.
Problem will come if the model it after a game like theHunter. People aren't going to want to spent a ton of cash in DLCs when there are other games on the market that they can play much cheaper. theHunter works because that really aren't any other games on the market that can compete with it. Sure there have been some recent releases they may be able to but only time will tell.
I said on another channel I get an adrenaline rush playing and hunting... (HCOTW). I don't see myself getting that rush with this game. Many have said "fishing planet" is where it is at.... That game is pure to the experience. Ihave that also Just not very fun. But fishing for my daughter isn't fun anyway. Is for me though. I'll gladly wait!