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Is Capitalism Really Human Nature? 

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These days, at least in the West, there seems to be a consensus that capitalism is just "the way things are." Everyone from capitalist economists to your dentist to your weird uncle is firmly convinced that humans are just hard-wired for capitalism. Let's explore that idea. Hope you enjoy!
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@SecondThought
@SecondThought Год назад
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@onerevenant1211
@onerevenant1211 Год назад
By your definition of capitalism (a few people owning most production) literally every non-tribal society since the ancient greeks has been capitalist, with a noble/aristocrat class having control over everyone else. By using this definition when quoting authors who clearly had a different definition in mind, you are purposefully misrepresenting their arguments. Also that claim about there being no proof of widespread historical trade is easily proven wrong by the fact that there are literal coins from thousands of years ago and many historical documents describing trade with non-standard currencies.
@theforondas6162
@theforondas6162 Год назад
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@blackhogarth4049
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@blackhogarth4049
@blackhogarth4049 Год назад
@@onerevenant1211 Those are some good points, but I think I can address them. I think the fact that we've always been divided into ruler and subject is more a function of our predisposition to want a leader, rather than Capitalism. You can have a ruler without them personally owning all the property and extracting profits from it. There are ancient coins and other forms of currency, but the existence of currency doesn't directly mean Capitalism. Trade and Capitalism aren't the same thing. You can have currency, but still have the means of production collectively owned.
@void9097
@void9097 Год назад
JT, beautiful video, but please, do not discredit yourself, there is NO carbon offset. The waste prodused during the process exceeds the actual reduction. (Climate Town has a great video on that) So it's ultimately a money sink which gives people a false feeling of making a difference and loosing money which could have went to better cause. (They mask it by saying that they use many methods, which, if traced, ultimately don't work. Standart tactic of increasing complexity so people misunderstand or don't try to check at all.)
@beasttitanofficial3768
@beasttitanofficial3768 Год назад
I studied cultural anthropology in university. We often talked about "human nature" in class. Early humans would care for one another, for the sick and dying, for the children. Because humans are gregarious animals, we are meant to form communities and that's how we survive. That's one of the reasons why we're living a major mental health crisis all over the world, because capitalism tears us apart instead of bringing us together. We're lonely because community is no longer encouraged as it once was. Human nature is togetherness and dependability, not gouging each other's eyes out for some gold coins we can hoarde.
@calebdunlap7566
@calebdunlap7566 Год назад
Capitalisms flaw on an even deeper level is the inherent center of it being hyper individuality. Sure, capitalism embodies the idea of greed, but it also tells you that you could change the world for the better with great wealth. (There’s a reason the superhero genre is so popular.) It tells you that you can be the savior of the world if you just work hard enough. We measure the deeds of men not by how much work they put in on an individual level, but the contribution in resources or money. There’s a man from my home town of Battle Creek, MI named Bobby Holley who isn’t incredibly well off himself but is constantly running charity drives and helping the children and the poor and homeless. He’s a man with close to nothing, at least in Capitalist terms, but he’s willing to give every little bit of nothing he has away to someone else in need. Though popular in my city, it’s unlikely he will ever be known outside of it. The amount of lives he’s touched and the effect on our community has been huge. But if someone like Jeff Bezos donates 0.01% of his income, the whole country has to know about it. It’s a drop in the bucket for him. We’re made to feel that we HAVE to reach the top, but in reality it’s the contribution of the countless nameless people that keep the worst off in our society from just dying in the streets like flies. Individualism is important; there is nothing in this universe that equates to the value of a life. But when you start valuing your own life above others, thinking that you’re somehow special, you begin to abandon the humanity that keeps you tethered to this earth. We’re all greedy and selfless. Arrogant and humble. Vengeful and forgiving. And everything else. We’re all the worst and best of humanity, and we all do better when we work together, because no man will ever be perfect, but humanity as a whole can get close if we work together
@calebdunlap7566
@calebdunlap7566 Год назад
To try to ascend above the sins of every human, you also forsake all the great qualities we have too. And that’s what these rich and powerful people try to do. They try to become “perfect”, or god, or whatever other term you can come up with
@jessh4016
@jessh4016 Год назад
The lack of physical community in modern society makes things really difficult in general.
@alessandrosilvafilho8527
@alessandrosilvafilho8527 Год назад
Heck, maybe this is the cause for the growth of the flat earth group and others similar. All the need to live in community just goes to any new opportunity no matter how crazy or dumb society calls it.
@RictusHolloweye
@RictusHolloweye Год назад
@@calebdunlap7566 - Tolkein shared a similar view, expressed in Lord of the Rings. That great people can do great (or terrible) things, but it's the small, everyday acts of kindness that allow us to prevail.
@shreyassingh3236
@shreyassingh3236 Год назад
"Greed and selfishness is a part of human nature" "So let's create a society that solely promotes these qualities."
@toyotaprius79
@toyotaprius79 Год назад
"you need to provide an incentive for landlords and entrepreneurs"
@aaaowski7048
@aaaowski7048 Год назад
this applies aswell to communism. y'know, the system where everyone is equal, but some are more equal than others. wherever you have a position of privilege, people are going to take advantage of that. i think the correct assesment would be- regardles sof the system people are gonna turn it into shit.
@nataliaofthenightlords
@nataliaofthenightlords Год назад
we did actually, it was during the gilded age and the early 20th century. majority of humans hated it, thats why unions formed. People don't realize we had the whole "Libertarian Dream land" it worked for a handful and the rest were cast aside. Thats why people hate the current deregulated capitalist society we have now, because of the greed and selfishness.
@kamranrowshandel6395
@kamranrowshandel6395 Год назад
Yeah but it's not saying that humans are truly evil "by nature", it just implies that there might be an implicit reason for which we are alive (to learn useful things and not be worthless and to not be extremely selfish. These things may PERHAPS be considered to change people during the course of life). No, nobody explains this stuff anymore.
@kamranrowshandel6395
@kamranrowshandel6395 Год назад
Agreed: it's not a Maoist channel. Phew I almost wondered if it was going to be controversial
@SirNotAppearing
@SirNotAppearing Год назад
“We live in capitalism. Its power seems inescapable. So did the divine right of kings. Any human power can be resisted and changed by human beings. Resistance and change often begin in art, and very often in our art, the art of words.” ― Ursula K. Le Guin
@freeofavia
@freeofavia Год назад
I love her, she had a gift for words
@denelson83
@denelson83 Год назад
But a corporation is *much* more powerful than a single king.
@SirNotAppearing
@SirNotAppearing Год назад
@@denelson83 well, you got me there, we'll never change anything...
@avinashreji60
@avinashreji60 Год назад
@@denelson83 European Empires are more powerful than corporations but they are all dead
@SirNotAppearing
@SirNotAppearing Год назад
@@sizlax she lived until 2018 and was engaged and active til the end of her life. I think she'd seen the effects of the internet and social media...I don't know that she recanted the above, though. Recall things like the Arab Spring, however, using social media to organize. It could happen. I broadly share your cynicism, particularly where climate change is concerned, but we just can't predict political reality with much accuracy. ✌️
@strippinheat
@strippinheat Год назад
The funny thing is that I grew INTO Socialism in My late 30s. Once you've experienced enough of the bad you start to realize that there's just a better way to do most things. People doing bad things is more often a consequence of their conditions caused by capitalism, so getting rid of the need to be greedy, lie, or cheat to survive brings out the best in people. Think about the times when you wanted to help someone but couldn't because you didn't have time due to needing to go to work or how you couldn't donate because you barely make rent. All "survival instincts" only caused by capitalism, not nature.
@cyrileo
@cyrileo Год назад
I totally agree - capitalism is a big factor that prevents us from helping others and being kind.
@ccam001
@ccam001 Год назад
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@agentorange20
@agentorange20 Год назад
@@cyrileo ​ elaborate. As a worker your contributions increases the living standards of others and yourself. It doesn’t prevent you from being kind.
@excalibro8365
@excalibro8365 Год назад
@@mlg3323 This would be the funniest comment's I've seen all day, if not for the terrible realities behind it.
@coolioso808
@coolioso808 Год назад
Very true. Everyday I drive to work I think about how much of society is built to separate people, yet many of us do have this desire to help and make things better. But our 'job for survival' is what takes so much of our time. Not to mention, upwards of 70% of jobs are BS and much of the tasks and duties within essential jobs like engineers, doctors, nurses, teachers, and food producers are BS because they could either be made much simpler by collaboration or automation or they don't need to exist at all. I look at all the projects around town that I'd like to help develop or I'm sure many people, if truly free, would love to help develop. Like more community centres, community gardens, mutual aid operations, repair, recycling and upcycling centres (these are barely a thing at all because capitalism has made waste management basically unprofitable, so it is disincentivized). I look at the city construction and how it is very car-centered and spread out, even in a small city. The new areas are alienating because they have very few essential shops and services nearby. Capitalism is the problem and then the excuse for why communities aren't being built very well and efficiently. I'll say "In that new area of town, why isn't there a new school, a daycare, a community centre, community garden, park, corner store and plenty of walking/biking paths?" and others will reply: "Well, it isn't profitable to do that." What a stupid system we are living in where the most efficient solutions aren't profitable. Instead of a 5-minute walk to a neighbourhood corner store that has a community garden that provides a lot of the fresh food for it, those residents have to get in a car, drive 10-minutes to a big box store, spend time in a giant department or grocery store that is mostly just making a few people rich - definitely not the people who work there daily - wasting gas all along the way. Insanity.
@purplehaze2358
@purplehaze2358 Год назад
I've never been fond of people arguing that humans are "evil" by nature in _any_ context, but especially so in cases where such is being used to shut down systemic change from occurring.
@presentfuture7563
@presentfuture7563 Год назад
B-b-but... entire world religions depend on it!
@aaaowski7048
@aaaowski7048 Год назад
>systemic change been there, done that. communism turned out to be trash which allows for 100x more abuse than our pseudo-democratic current systems. at this point your "systemic change" is trying the same thing over and again, desperately yearning for different results than last time.
@drphosferrous
@drphosferrous Год назад
The human nature argument has historically been used to defend the worst elements of human behavior as inevitable. It seems like those crimes are defended by the ones profiting from people's acceptance. Its like saying "shhh,no, you don't need to change anything, its human nature that i sound be able to take from you without your consent. "
@purplehaze2358
@purplehaze2358 Год назад
@@aaaowski7048 Actual, real communism has never been attempted. It's always been corruptions of the theoretical system proposed by Karl Marx implemented by the greedy and power hungry. Come back to me when you actually know what you're talking about bud.
@SonsOfLorgar
@SonsOfLorgar Год назад
@@presentfuture7563 well... yeah, just like every other protection scheme based criminal syndicate.
@gregorynuttall
@gregorynuttall Год назад
I grew up in a religious community that also believed that humans were naturally evil and selfish. Since leaving, I've learned that people are mostly kind. Whatever selfishness they do exhibit is usually because they're in a desperate situation and have needs that are going unfulfilled, not because they are trying to gain advantage over someone else for no good reason.
@jaxthewolf4572
@jaxthewolf4572 Год назад
Christianity sure teaches that all humans are born evil and worthless is a good reason why people act so poorly.
@joeanthony7759
@joeanthony7759 Год назад
Good insight. And correct.
@Serocco
@Serocco Год назад
Most people aren't kind to those outside their preferred group.
@alexxx4434
@alexxx4434 Год назад
You probably just moved to more prosperous neighborhoods.
@gregorynuttall
@gregorynuttall Год назад
@@alexxx4434 what are you implying? Can you elaborate?
@commanderlopan
@commanderlopan Год назад
I'm in the process of starting a co-op with a collective of others in my field. I was discussing this with a friend who fashions themselves as a "libertarian". He asked who we got to run the company and I explained that we're holding an election for our executive and management posts from within our current pool of members and that it comes with an annual review and option to hold another election (there is also a removal clause). He got all weird and said, "yeah, but what if the guy turns out to be a dictator that ruins the operation?" He said it like a "gotcha" moment, like a "checkmate socialist!" He unironically, seriously didn't comprehend that in a capitalist model you literally NEVER vote for your bosses or execs. Your boss is already a literal dictator that you have to obey under threat of unemployment and therefore starvation / homelessness. I'm really starting to think that capitalists are just beyond dense. Hopelessly stupid and irreparably oblivious.
@commanderlopan
@commanderlopan Год назад
@@michaelvanderlaan5629 I'm going to have to add that capitalists must also generally be illiterate as well. Nothing you said refutes the point I was making regarding my friend's inability to recognize the stupidity in being afraid of dictatorial rule in a business (resulting from an elected position) as opposed to a private entity where labor has no input on leadership. In fact you're only validating my opinion that capitalists are pretty dumb as you missed the whole subject. Address your reading comprehension, then get back to me.
@calebdunlap7566
@calebdunlap7566 Год назад
@@michaelvanderlaan5629yeah being held accountable to shareholders doesn’t mean much because they’re high up bosses themselves. And that’d be true if they actually tied up loopholes and started enforcing the law
@McHobotheBobo
@McHobotheBobo Год назад
​@@michaelvanderlaan5629They're all ruling class capitalists, mate. You're being obtuse
@kokorochacarero8003
@kokorochacarero8003 Год назад
So let me get this straight: -You told him you're gonna setup a system in which you vote to elect leadership -You told him you're gonna hold them accountable to review, recurrent elections and a removal clause -Your friend considered the possibility of the leadership doing a terrible job -At no point he considered the leadership could be replaced through the review, recurrent election processes and the removal clause Why do I get the feeling your friend lived his entire life within the US culture/information bubble?
@kokorochacarero8003
@kokorochacarero8003 Год назад
@@michaelvanderlaan5629 key words: performing poorly. The only metric that takes into account is financial returns, profits, money, dollars Your middle mannagement, your boss, the CEO and the investors and stakeholders are only held accountable and beholdent to one thing: PROFITS The law can be skirted, tapdanced around and offuscated through those same profits
@stonetrouble5053
@stonetrouble5053 Год назад
If individuals are selfish and greedy by nature, it becomes even more important to have social systems that counter this destructive behavior.
@discofishing
@discofishing Год назад
Absolutely! Like the nuclear family?
@christopherlee7334
@christopherlee7334 Год назад
​@@discofishingWhy a nuclear family? Why not an extended, strong, multi-generational family that cares for and respects elders, uncles and aunts help nieces and nephews, cousins help and play with cousins, and grandparents spend time helping to babysit and educate the children while the mothers rest? Why is the nuclear family pushed so hard?
@gabrielamaral978
@gabrielamaral978 Год назад
​@@christopherlee7334 Because it kinda worked since ever. Is not like capitalism that just emerged in a specific context. Nuclear families emerged since the begining of mankind, all over the globe time and time again.
@gabrielamaral978
@gabrielamaral978 Год назад
@@ivandafoe5451 Not related. But oh, well. Kinda true.
@ivandafoe5451
@ivandafoe5451 Год назад
@@christopherlee7334 "The nuclear family is pushed so hard" in a very cynical way by right-wingers, as a way to blame citizens as being at fault for society's ills, instead of the capitalism that forces families to have both parents working, which undermines the basic functions of maintaining the supposed ideal of a nuclear family. Extended families have been the norm throughout history until capitalism started supporting the nuclear family model as a way of increasing the consumption of goods and services. This support only lasted for a relatively brief time while workers were needed to build products and infrastructure and to provide a dependable consumer base.
@yahiiia9269
@yahiiia9269 Год назад
A yes, the species that developed complex language and emotional recognition patterns to enable superior cooperation is the one that needs competitive systems against its own species.
@yahiiia9269
@yahiiia9269 Год назад
Honestly, no wonder psychopaths increase in density towards the top of the capitalist food chain. You have to take all your wealth from somewhere and someone after all.
@samdaniels2
@samdaniels2 Год назад
Great comment! Yeah I always thought it was dumb from an evolutionary standpoint, we like all other primates are social animals that ultimately survived and thrived because of our strength in community.
@abelg9053
@abelg9053 Год назад
Damn, what a great way to put it XD
@VeganSemihCyprus33
@VeganSemihCyprus33 Год назад
Technology chose capitalism and is going to kill us all 👉The Connections (2021) [short documentary]🔥
@franpp257
@franpp257 Год назад
Stop coping, we always traded and fought other tribes. We don’t care about every human
@jamesalder8628
@jamesalder8628 Год назад
I am a 43 year old army veteran. And if growing old is proof that you realize how the world works... well they are right. I am fed up with the way the nation "works". Change is needed. Enormous change. But so many people are dependent on this system, I am not sure it could change.
@SonsOfLorgar
@SonsOfLorgar Год назад
Anything humans has built, humans can change. And you are correct about aging, the old capitalist fallacy of young socialists old conservatives relies on mispresenting their own cynical defeatism and active choise to assimilate into and become a perpetrator in the destructive system as wisdom...
@cyrileo
@cyrileo Год назад
"Change is difficult, but not impossible! Let's work together to make it happen!"
@TheNapster153
@TheNapster153 Год назад
Judging by our history, the jar needs to break by itself before we're willing to do something. But if were to be optimistic, one thing a man is good at is picking up the pieces and build something out of ruin. Supposedly, we're just too good at this so we tend to make it last till the jar breaks again.
@mksmike
@mksmike Год назад
They're actually not though. Most people do not benefit from capitalism's perks.
@ziwuri
@ziwuri Год назад
I don't think that groeing older necessarily results in understanding how stuff works. Education is what causes that. There are many teens who know much more than their grandparents.
@suchetachatterjee6089
@suchetachatterjee6089 Год назад
I always say that human nature is like water. It assumes the shape of the container you put it into. In this case, the container is the economic system in which humans have to survive. I’m capitalism, humans have to be greedy and selfish because that’s the container they’re adapting to.
@suchetachatterjee6089
@suchetachatterjee6089 Год назад
@@LongDefiant Of course I’m not justifying those who design the system for their own benefit, but rather those who are forced to adapt to it.
@ArgueWithTheMajority
@ArgueWithTheMajority Год назад
In other, less beautiful, words: Don't hate the player, hate the game. :D
@Redfash_Tofu
@Redfash_Tofu 2 месяца назад
Dont mind me im just going to steal this explanation
@davidalvarez7262
@davidalvarez7262 Год назад
"Competition is the law of the jungle, but cooperation is the law of civilization" Peter Kropotkin
@evangelinsamantha5777
@evangelinsamantha5777 Год назад
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@icyx9268
@icyx9268 Год назад
yeah no but ontop of that you have to clairify and debunk at th rout cause of this whole thing of clairifying that it is not even real competition infact has ZERO associating factors what so ever with any correlation to competition that is an inapplicably inassociable attribute and so most of all you have to clairify th difference so they dont just keep going back and back and leaning on the 1% of possibility of truth in there uncontextualised illusion because it is broad vague loosely defined and out of authoirtarianism sheer sensless spam engulf reality by labeling it as that that is why it is so important to clairify that it is nothing more than sensless domination not competition
@SaulOhio
@SaulOhio Год назад
Capitalism is much more about cooperation than competition. Competition is just a minor aspect that helps keep businessmen honest. We compete at being the best at cooperating. In a free market (which we don't have) businessmen compete to bring prices down. But that is seen as "predatory" and so laws passed with the STATED (lies) intent of promoting competition actually create monopolies and cartels, and central banking inflation drives up prices. Look up a graph showing deflation rates in the 19th century. Thats what we would have in a free market capitalist system, which we do not have. There were two big bouts of inflation when the government was trying to pay off war debts (1812 and the Civil War), but otherwise businessmen brought prices DOWN!
@RaMenace888
@RaMenace888 Год назад
I've searched (rather carefully) for the source of that quote, but can't find the original source. Any clues as to the publication it's in?
@gelinrefira
@gelinrefira 11 месяцев назад
@@SaulOhio "Capitalism is much more about cooperation than competition." Ohh yea, those indoctrination are great, aren't they?
@vivianriver6450
@vivianriver6450 Год назад
I like the way you compare the privilege of the capitalist class to "the divine right of kings". It goes to show, as is printed on the Despair Inc poster, that "Just because you've always done it that way doesn't mean it's not incredibly stupid."
@denelson83
@denelson83 Год назад
The "appeal to tradition" fallacy.
@Thorned_Rose
@Thorned_Rose Год назад
I also think in some respects, "the divine right of Kings" has never actually gone away - it's just the divine right is now handed down via wealth rather than bloodline. Capitalism is little different from the feudalism and monarchy it came out of - a giant invisible Pyramid Scheme with a small number of people at the top and ever increasing numbers of people with decreasing wealth as you head down and reliant on infinite growth of the economy.
@soostoons1826
@soostoons1826 Год назад
@@sizlax no pain no gain
@KekusMagnus
@KekusMagnus Год назад
It is a classic marxist quote because it ties into historical materialism; the notion that different eras of human history are primarily characterised by their social class conflicts. Just as capitalism is defined by the struggle between the bourgeois and proles, feudalism was defined by the struggle between serfs and the aristocracy. In either case, the ruling class's ideoligy serves to justify its position of power, be it "divine right", "hussler grindset" or "meritocracy"
@thesteelsquid863
@thesteelsquid863 Год назад
​@@denelson83This always is an interesting point to me. Shouldn't we be moving from the past? Not towards it? Diversity is a keystone for evolution, right? If we all just stay the same and do things the same way we'll go extinct :I
@Erde04
@Erde04 Год назад
From a worker's point of view, it's always been difficult to understand why companies neglect to cross-train. I believed it was because of cost, but more and more, it's because keeping the knowledge of how a system works as obscure as possible gives corporate leverage.
@aaaowski7048
@aaaowski7048 Год назад
bang on. i see the same pattern in software development. thats the reason for the push to replace C with toddlerlangs, but i digress. in all systems people who rise to the top usually like to accumulate and conserve power. therefor in every system you will have abuse. the best system is the system which leaves the most recourse for the individual, be it in the form of societal protection, or social mobility. sadly, within communism, the position that provides power is the very same that provides recourse for the society. and given the framework of communism, the party, the place where all the psychos will go, is your only recourse for whatever irregularity you are facing. food for thought.
@VeganSemihCyprus33
@VeganSemihCyprus33 Год назад
Technology chose capitalism and is going to kill us all 👉The Connections (2021) [short documentary]🔥
@theshunzun
@theshunzun Год назад
@@aaaowski7048 I’m having trouble following this comment. What are you trying to say?
@aaaowski7048
@aaaowski7048 Год назад
​@@theshunzun in short, i see easily the same patterns, be it in comunist societies or liberal ones, or, in fact pretty much all societies and systems; it is a simple trend. namely: that psychos will try and exploit the system regardless of the internals. while liberalism is problematic, there isn't a silver bullet we could use to cure all society's ailments. history has shown time and again that every system, no matter how robust, can be corrupted. and starting from that point, i believe that the question we should be asking is not "which system is the best" but rather "which system has the most failsafes against abuse built into it". and honestly, communism doesnt rank very high on the list. definitely better than absolutist monarchy, but not by much to be honest...
@ernststravoblofeld
@ernststravoblofeld Год назад
Specialization makes it easy to guilt people into not taking much vacation. If the knowledge was spread around, there would be a lot less control from above. People often think it gives them security, but it's a leash.
@thethirdgeneration1738
@thethirdgeneration1738 Год назад
“Grow out of it?” Actually, I grew into it from 30 onwards. I was becoming Socialist, when I didn’t even understand what it really was, even by name. It’s true. I knew capitalism sucked, and the corporate structure, and my life was being affected by it. I knew I was strongly against it; but no one reached out with the concept of Socialism. Finally, I realised some socialist history and started reading! And I found others too who we’re reaching out. Now, I’m 60. Still learning, and hope for that day when this country will snap to its rightful Socialist pedestal.
@MikeMW87
@MikeMW87 Год назад
Ye we know you are a leftie hyppie ... its ok to be born a beta.
@jakekaywell5972
@jakekaywell5972 Год назад
@@MikeMW87 > Calls someone a beta. > Uses the word "we", like he needs the hypothetical approval of other people to make a point. You sure you're not the beta here, champ?
@MikeMW87
@MikeMW87 Год назад
@@jakekaywell5972 Next hyppie poverty enthusiast. And than he likes cars ...well cars are symbol of capitalism you should use a bus since its the way to go for socialists. Lotus has no place in your fantasy world . Why are all commies so out of touch with reality .
@jakekaywell5972
@jakekaywell5972 Год назад
@@MikeMW87 First of all, cars aren't an inherent symbol of capitalism. That's simply puffery. Second of all, I can like something without personally desiring it. Third of all, poverty is something much more tolerable than great riches. I can sleep soundly at night after all. Fourth of all, you say I'm out of touch with reality, but that statement is merely a projection. Last of all, you keep misspelling "hippie". If you're going to attempt to insult anyone, as weak as that is, at least have the brain cells to spell it correctly.
@MikeMW87
@MikeMW87 Год назад
@@jakekaywell5972 yes they are since you do not know the history of the car:)progress created by ruthless competition.Socialism kills the competition . Compare the soviet cars to western cars. and the abiluty to pick and not be forced to to use a limited product . Yes you can be a happy hyppie antil you see someone you know in a better car a better house a better job and you feel envy . Lefties love to fool themself . Eng is not my native language . Plz do your research on the life standrads in the socialist nations cuz on paper it all sound good but that model of the world is a fantasy . ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-24L7r7SoK_Y.html
@theshunzun
@theshunzun Год назад
I think the best part of about this channel is how there’s a consistent theme that a democratic economy is a better structure to run society. What we have now is controlled and dominated by so few people-it’s no wonder things are getting worse. Thanks for making your videos JT!
@Richie_Alpha_Rabbit69
@Richie_Alpha_Rabbit69 Год назад
Government only screws things up free markets work best. No such thing as a 1st country that has people doing whatever they like each day and having their stuff paid for by another. Nothing is free. Things are getting bad because the government is reaching their hands into our pockets to give the money to others . The middle class gets screwed in a socialist society until they end up poor . I feel socialism is being pushed mainstream so we can erase the middle class and only have extremely rich and extremely poor people who have to depend on the government for every they get handed to them in small quantities.
@richardbuckharris189
@richardbuckharris189 Год назад
"John Burroughs has stated that experimental study of animals in captivity is absolutely useless. Their character, their habits, their appetites undergo a complete transformation when torn from their soil in field and forest. With human nature caged in a narrow space, whipped daily into submission, how can we speak of its potentialities?" ~ Emma Goldman
@krotchlickmeugh627
@krotchlickmeugh627 Год назад
Great point.
@icyx9268
@icyx9268 Год назад
y
@annalieff-saxby568
@annalieff-saxby568 Год назад
Desmond Morris talked about this in The Human Zoo.
@richardbuckharris189
@richardbuckharris189 Год назад
@@annalieff-saxby568 Thank you!
@ienjoycardboard
@ienjoycardboard Год назад
I often get caught up explaining to people that historically humans are not selfish. We wouldn't have survived as a species otherwise. But pointing out to people that even if someone is greedy and selfish they're gonna have a tough time convincing others to do what they want under socialism is a lovely argument I had never considered. Thanks for your videos JT and providing us with more tools for the struggle.
@aaaowski7048
@aaaowski7048 Год назад
americans are not humans. therefor you whole worldview is skewed.
@alexxx4434
@alexxx4434 Год назад
The trouble is humanity was never social at a large scale. Family, friends, colleagues, local communities, sure. But many of those are being disintegrated right now, as capitalism have no real need in them, and these social structures restrict mobility and malleability. It's true that capitalism makes us atomary to reach it's maximum exploitative potential.
@PhedelCastro
@PhedelCastro Год назад
@@alexxx4434 workers co-ops and other forms of socialism are completely fine with the current capitalist system. Capitalism however would be illegal in a socialist society. Capitalism seems to be the less restrictive model. Why not create a socialist town at least as a demonstration?
@SonsOfLorgar
@SonsOfLorgar Год назад
@@PhedelCastro some people did, it was known as the Paris Commune, they were butchered with artillery and rifles while people like you smugly grinned from the sidelines and claimed the massacre was proof that it was impossible...
@alexxx4434
@alexxx4434 Год назад
@@PhedelCastro I would love to see that too. Start small an grow it bigger. Yet, I don't know what problems co-ops are facing, and what prevents them from outcompeting capitalist organizations. I can only guess that due to more fairly distributed profits - there is less capital on hand to invest in business.
@etep878
@etep878 Год назад
I thought humankind succeeded as a species because of our ability to cooperate with other, not because we were in competition.
@wendylcs4283
@wendylcs4283 Год назад
Looking at history, capitalism has brought more cooperation than socialism has.
@wendylcs4283
@wendylcs4283 Год назад
@@souventudubanned Free market capitalism is historically the system under which the greatest advancements for civilization have been made, because, in a free market economy, both parties VOLUNTARILY cooperate and both parties benefit from a transaction.
@plumetheum7017
@plumetheum7017 Год назад
@@wendylcs4283 Wrong. Organized Labor in collective societies lead to the greatest advancements for Civilization. As for "free market capitalism" that is an oxymoron because Markets when left to their own devices end up centralizing their entire share of each sector into fewer, and fewer entities until there's a total monopoly. The Centralization of Capital is literally an unavoidable contradiction. Why do you think the State exists? It's a means to reign in Liberalism's self-destructive tendencies. Even Adam Smith believed a powerful government is required to prevent Capitalism from obliterating itself. But if we want go get specific. The USSR, and the PRC are two of the most significant examples of improvements in living conditions in Human history period. In 1950 China still had the final bastion of Feudalism in Tibet, and in 2023 it's well on its way to surpassing the degenerating United States. The USSR went from a semi-feudal agrarian state to reaching Outer Space in mere decades.
@ArgueWithTheMajority
@ArgueWithTheMajority Год назад
​@@wendylcs4283 Yeah, sure. Just like we voluntarily pay absurdly inflated rents to the owners of "our" homes, not because we are forced to seek shelter. Just like we voluntarily pay for the profits of shareholders of corporations in the food industry, not because we are hungry. Just like we pay for overpriced medication - voluntarily - and not because the alternative is death. You seem to confuse cooperation with extortion within capitalism.
@crazyeight9
@crazyeight9 Год назад
@@ArgueWithTheMajority yes you do all those things voluntarily. You are free to stop paying rent or go homeless. No one is stopping you. You should be very grateful that you live in such an awesome country like america. Talk to a cuban or someone from one of the former Soviet states or islamic savage Iran. That might change your perspective
@Anmeteor9663
@Anmeteor9663 Год назад
"You'll grow out of it" I was told at 14 years old when trying to duscuss socialism with my parents. Now, at 58 I am referred to as "the ultra left". Actually as a label I prefer Anarchist/Syndicalist. But I hate labels as they are used to distract and divide us.
@Rob--
@Rob-- Год назад
Anarchist is ultra right. No governing authority.
@neuroisis85
@neuroisis85 Год назад
@@Rob-- Dude just look up the definition of anarchism, it's as left as you can possibly go.
@Rob--
@Rob-- Год назад
@neuroisis85 it's the removal of government. The right pushes for less government involvement. The left continues to want more laws and remove rights.
@ArgueWithTheMajority
@ArgueWithTheMajority Год назад
I too have become more and more leftist the older I have become. I was about 11 years old when I started to get the feeling that something just isn't going right in this world. I am now 34 years old and have come to the conclusion that the abolition of capitalism is without alternative if we ever hope to become truly civilised as a species. Cooperation instead of competition is the way. I'm tired of self-inflicted social Darwinism.
@noctuabird
@noctuabird Год назад
@@Rob--dude anarchism in most people belief is total abolishment of hierarchical structure
@tgcid2018
@tgcid2018 Год назад
The other thing I keep thinking about regarding greed and false equivalency, is the equation of our greed to their greed. They are not the same, even if you want to call our desperation greed. It's true both the rich and the poor are desperate for wealth and resources, but the scale and character are entirely different. Poor people are greedy for spare time, comfort, and peace of mind while the rich are not content with owning most of the wealth of the earth.
@joeanthony7759
@joeanthony7759 Год назад
Indeed. Rich people (generally-speaking, I realize not every rich person is like this) seem to want everything; their irrational avarice is the symptom of a deeper sickness.
@VeganSemihCyprus33
@VeganSemihCyprus33 Год назад
Technology chose capitalism and is going to kill us all 👉The Connections (2021) [short documentary]🔥
@bastooo3
@bastooo3 Год назад
the problem about humanity is not that we are evil or selfish, but very easily manipulated. no matter if child or adult, too many of us are too vulnerable this way and don't learn to think for ourselves properly. I myself am also guilty of this and I work on it every single day.
@raywilson641
@raywilson641 Год назад
Yeah, every single day we are blasted with thoughts and ideas crafted by other people and groups. From social media to commercials to advertisements in malls. There is no point in which a person can make themselves immune to these influences. (Outside of finding some remote island or deep woods to isolate themselves.) The best thing a person can do is be aware of the manipulations happening to them so they can consiousely inspect the information presented.
@VeganSemihCyprus33
@VeganSemihCyprus33 Год назад
Technology chose capitalism and is going to kill us all 👉The Connections (2021) [short documentary]🔥
@geobot9k
@geobot9k Год назад
We're vulnerable because the sociopathic class has developed a society over centuries that robs us of the tools to think for ourselves properly. It's on us to relearn how to do this and share this knowledge with the people around us.
@pthomasgarcia
@pthomasgarcia Год назад
People aren’t inherently easy to manipulate, capitalist society isn’t concerned with having a literate what’s more media literate or historically literate society. One of the first projects of all socialist societies to date has been to educate and make literate the population. More than that, socialist political education is the teaching of how to think in a way that looks at the whole of the world, the material factors that lead to certain facts or ideas, like the idea that people are greedy or easy to manipulate Edit: if you question those ideas on their own without regard to the historical environment that made them possible, you’ll be lost in a world of ideas, which people do manipulate, rather than the real world, which contradicts universal greed and ignorance
@cyrileo
@cyrileo Год назад
It's true that people are easily manipulated, but I don't think capitalism is the answer.
@christianbarrett3040
@christianbarrett3040 Год назад
Another issue with Smith's assumptions is that there are indications that the creation of currency was tied to war, not economic trade. The theory is that by paying soldiers with currency that could only be redeemed in the country, they wouldn't overthrow the government when you armed them with all of the territories weapons and sent them to war because overthrowing the government would make the currency worthless.
@howlrichard1028
@howlrichard1028 Год назад
When people claim that humans are greedy by nature, I always reply with the same answer: If water was free, would you have all your taps permanently open? Would you collect water infinitely? What about furniture, would you keep 200 chairs and tables at home if they were free? Then how about a home, would you keep moving between 20 homes, maintaining and cleaning them, just to keep ownership? I've yet to find a person who answers "yes" to any of these questions. Greed is only desirable so long as it feels worthy of our time and effort. Make it so that it's no longer useful to be greedy and suddenly 90% of all greed disappears.
@Rob--
@Rob-- Год назад
Promoting restrictions on what people possess? Ration cards?
@cubesolver2564
@cubesolver2564 8 месяцев назад
@@Rob-- Money is basically our ration cards, though we *could* use them for other things if we had enough left over. Only problem is that unlike the food stamps given to the poor (which I hope you believe they deserve to have to eat), we have to work to earn them, and by extension, our next meal.
@NegronJames-yr4lb
@NegronJames-yr4lb Месяц назад
@@cubesolver2564bro so i have to work just to eat ?? damn we are literally slave. why do we walk around like we are free
@cubesolver2564
@cubesolver2564 Месяц назад
@@NegronJames-yr4lb In most cases, yeah this is how we live. We work to make enough money to afford a space to live, have access to utilities, and food to eat. This basically means: We have to work *just* to live and eat, not even to improve our quality of life. It's not like every single one of us is guaranteed a basic amount of food to sustain ourselves with given our physical traits and our duties, so if you struggle with poverty, you have to hope that there are services available to help you with procuring basic necessities, and that you are also *eligible* for them. If such services do not exist in your region or are unavailable to you, it's hard to argue you are "free" in the slightest.
@Generic_786
@Generic_786 Год назад
It's crazy to think people think corporate overlords and immense wealth inequality, as well as rampant poverty are all human nature.
@aaaowski7048
@aaaowski7048 Год назад
myeah, thats notr what happens. rather: human nature turns everything it touches into shit. in capitalist economies you have landlords and corporate overlords. in communist societies you have the party pigs who will fuck you over just because they can. the real difference is that in communism theres even less that you can do than in democracy. its like, in democracy, someone fucks you over, you go to someone else to complain. in communism, the person you are supposed to complain to IS the one who fucks you over.
@Generic_786
@Generic_786 Год назад
@Zaydan Alfariz Do you mass produce and hoard all the resources and keep them from each other? Actually never mind, don't answer that.
@jaxthewolf4572
@jaxthewolf4572 Год назад
@@Generic_786 Its in quotations so he/she was probably quoting someone else.
@Generic_786
@Generic_786 Год назад
@@jaxthewolf4572 I'm pretty sure it the quotation marks were used in a sarcastic sense and my response was playing along
@VeganSemihCyprus33
@VeganSemihCyprus33 Год назад
Technology chose capitalism and is going to kill us all 👉The Connections (2021) [short documentary]🔥
@arthurrodrigues451
@arthurrodrigues451 Год назад
Arguing that greed is human nature and using said argument to justify a system that heavily rewards being greedy, uses the same logic that children should be let loose in candy stores because it's their nature to eat candy
@VeganSemihCyprus33
@VeganSemihCyprus33 Год назад
Technology chose capitalism and is going to kill us all 👉The Connections (2021) [short documentary]🔥
@kevinroscom
@kevinroscom Год назад
I mean theoretically if you justified greed as part of human nature, you could also justify murder as part of human nature. And even under a capitalist society we take measures to avoid that outcome, so why would we not do the same thing for greed or any other sin? Even if you understand human nature as this vial ugly thing and all humans are bad, there's no reason why we shouldn't do things to prevent those qualities from becoming the cornerstone of a society
@GhostOnTheHalfShell
@GhostOnTheHalfShell Год назад
Humans most significant trait is collaboration. Every good dam social creature, apes, horses, dolphins, elephants, wolf packs contain an interplay between competition and cooperation, cheating and altruism. It’s why it’s complicated. Reductions to too competitive is like saying mankind exists by trying to kill each other every second. Or ignores reciprocity as the most fundamental human interaction.
@fnordywings
@fnordywings Год назад
It's human nature for those who are the greediest
@voidwarden1413
@voidwarden1413 Год назад
human nature is made through material conditions, and it can always be changed
@nessaj6359
@nessaj6359 Год назад
People are greedy because we live in an Inequality where rich and poor exist which is Capitalism. Always remember that when you are born in this world. You don't know anything. So if you are born in a world where Money doesn't exist and all people are equal. And you see people helping each other. You will be like that too.
@user-ej5gx7ph7q
@user-ej5gx7ph7q Год назад
Excuse me... Greed is a reaction to environment... The evolution of language was selected for. If it was selected for to lie and steal, resulting in violence and murder, we would not be here. In fact, we know our main adaptation is to connect, communicate and cooperate in building our world, for mutual self interest . Population density as the environmental effect you talk about. Because, in a system of structural inequality, greed, deception and violence are systemic. Lots of people, anonymous strangers, different languages different religions, same Homo sapiens. For a few thousand years we have been using zero sum default, because our cultural abilities were not yet up to the task. So, this system developed. Now the knowledge and technology can hand people their world back and allow our evolved natural diversity, to be appreciated for the adaptive wonder it is and not continue to be suffocated and killed, forcing this structure, when today, we have much better alternatives. This is why we are dumb down, the knowledge and technology is waiting for the wisdom. Dominance is decadent dumbness... Dominance maintains itself, until humans no longer give it power in their lives. This is something we need to do together, alone we are fractured, together unstoppable... At least in my not so humble opinion
@VeganSemihCyprus33
@VeganSemihCyprus33 Год назад
Technology chose capitalism and is going to kill us all 👉The Connections (2021) [short documentary]🔥
@user-ej5gx7ph7q
@user-ej5gx7ph7q Год назад
@@VeganSemihCyprus33 not so much, technology is how we evolve...
@russelljames5631
@russelljames5631 Год назад
It’s funny how they make the human nature argument then at the same time cape for billionaires by pointing out that they are generous for donating to charity.
@TirgaTheMadcat
@TirgaTheMadcat Год назад
You really know those folks are trying to gaslight you when they say contradictory things almost in the same sentence.
@russelljames5631
@russelljames5631 Год назад
@@TirgaTheMadcat somehow I’m always surprised
@VeganSemihCyprus33
@VeganSemihCyprus33 Год назад
Technology chose capitalism and is going to kill us all 👉The Connections (2021) [short documentary]🔥
@cosmicllama6910
@cosmicllama6910 Год назад
@Chicken Sandwich Like when you criticize capitalism and people point to children mining in Africa or something and say "You are privileged, you could be like these struggling people! Capitalism has lifted more people out of poverty than anything else!" As if Capitalism hasn't played a huge role in why those children are mining right now. Like yeah, sure, Capitalism has lifted SO MANY out of poverty, that "fair trade" coffee and chocolate became a thing, yaknow, because it was ALREADY so fair and everything 🙄
@RosscoAW
@RosscoAW Год назад
@@cosmicllama6910 Just hit them with the, "No, Karen, those children are mining in poverty because it benefits the company that makes your jewellery and cell phone for them to be in a state of poverty. They weren't mining that shit before American mining companies showed up. They mine so you can have nice things. They didn't mine before capitalists rolled in and divvied their resources up. Capitalism doesn't lift anyone out of poverty: capitalism *profits off of and requires the existence of poverty,* capitalism created and creates poverty." They'll completely ignore you, so just trip them down a flight of stairs afterwards, or something.
@jeremiahbaxter6887
@jeremiahbaxter6887 Год назад
Damn, this is one of the best explanations of socialism I've ever heard. Way to put it in perspective, JT. The fact that socialism is just about what strategies are rewarded and which aren't really resonated with me.
@mcgoombs
@mcgoombs Год назад
Wow!!!! I just made a TikTok summarizing Debt the first 5000 years and it blew up! So happy Graeber, and this crucial history, are getting due recognition. Excellent work as always JT!
@MK_ULTRA420
@MK_ULTRA420 Год назад
Compound interest and fractional reserve banking are the devil's work.
@ourmobilehomemakeover662
@ourmobilehomemakeover662 Год назад
I often think that the “people are selfish and greedy” argument is sincerely made by the few people who really are selfish and greedy. Such people seem to honestly believe that altruism and compassion are weaknesses. Further, they want to live in a world that rewards their skills at ruthless violence or manipulation. So they spend a lot of effort convincing other people that there’s nothing to be done about it.
@VeganSemihCyprus33
@VeganSemihCyprus33 Год назад
Technology chose capitalism and is going to kill us all 👉The Connections (2021) [short documentary]🔥
@BD-yl5mh
@BD-yl5mh Год назад
I’ve often wondered if there’s a thing where the people who rally against a socialist system with a line like “well no one would work if everything was free?” are basically self reporting.
@Eibarwoman
@Eibarwoman Год назад
@@BD-yl5mh I reckon they are the people who self-report they'd have no motivation without money as I've seen others do labor specifically to keep busy even without pay.
@BD-yl5mh
@BD-yl5mh Год назад
@@Eibarwoman well I often find there’s a weird flip side where people, myself included, who outside of our regular capitalist jobs, never really do much, insist that if all our needs were taken care of, we’d be more productive and do creative stuff and call our moms more. I do wonder if there’s an element to which we’re also projecting a personal failing onto a systemic preference. (Doesn’t make me think that systemic change wouldn’t still be better though)
@doctorrobert1339
@doctorrobert1339 Год назад
Just because they're selfish and greedy they then assume that everyone is like them.
@based5574
@based5574 Год назад
Your video made me made me realize why it so happened that the world arrived to a system in which the greedy and the selfish have the most power and wealth. The reason why the world arrived to be this way is because only the most selfish cared enough to make the world system work in a way that benefits their type, the type of selfish and greedy people. Fundamentally, the most selfish, from their selfish drives wanted to determine how the world economy will function more than any other type of humans, so they made that system for themselves, a system that rewards mostly them.
@based5574
@based5574 Год назад
Other types of people, philanthropists, socialists, egalitarians etc seemingly were and probably still are just less driven and motivated compared to the selfish and greedy. I guess it could be a survival thing, living beings in general would rather save themselves first and then they might help the others.
@thefatherinthecave943
@thefatherinthecave943 Год назад
@@based5574 I think those people were simply not wealthy.
@Prownilo
@Prownilo Год назад
The world if shaped by narcissists, a core part of narcissism is instead of trying to work within a system, they will instead impose how they think the world should work on the system. This leads to both visionaries, and tyrants. People who see the world and decide it is better run their way, people who will change the world according to how they think it should work. The rest of us see the world and try to adapt to it, narcissists change it according to how they think it should be.
@based5574
@based5574 Год назад
@@thefatherinthecave943 wealth could've been accumulated throughout the history, yet the system remained one that rewards people with certain traits (selfishness and greed).
@dartnight365
@dartnight365 Год назад
@@based5574 yeah... And history prove that, with few execption, only who had wealth can accumulate more wealth.
@dasritzoo9234
@dasritzoo9234 Год назад
The Olds: When you grow up, you'll be more conservative Millenials: Hold my beer. *Swings far to the left with age*
@TheFalconerNZ
@TheFalconerNZ Год назад
My argument against "Selfish Human Nature" is a documentary l saw more than 10 years ago that involved kids too young to talk but old enough to understand simple instructions. In this study they showed kids hand puppet shows where one puppet was being hurtful or selfish to another then introduced another puppet that showed kindness or generosity, the puppets were removed for a few minutes then put on the table & the kids were allowed to pick one, NEARLY ALL PICKED the kind/generous ones. Swapping which puppet was which didn't matter so it was not appearance that influenced their decision, it was their actions so the kids were drawn to "Good Behaviour". So we are born caring but live in a world that shows greedy behaviour is reward everywhere therefore they learn to become greedy. Parents learnt this from their parents with statements like "You can get/need to get a better job than that when you grow up" so in turn teach that to their kids. So called primitive societies shared resources (which is why the greedy European cultures called them primitive) knew for the tribe to survive everyone had to have the same access to everything or those that got less would be too weak to fight against a hostile tribe wanting to take away their resources. Yes we will fight another tribe to live but sharing in the tribe makes the whole tribe strong while limiting access makes it weaker & breeds discontent. This inter tribal fighting is explained by capitalists as the "Greed of Human Nature" but it is really the most basic of impulses in the reptilian part of our brain, the hindbrain, "The Will to Survive" that causes them wars, not the desire to get rich. The next, higher segment of our brain, the mammalian area, the Midbrain, is where caring & sharing is found as communal animals learnt they have a better chance to live & reproduce as the group which can fight back where an individual can't. But now we have the even higher brain area, the Forebrain, where logic is centered so we should be able to act above our basic desires and work towards a system that does hurt anyone but instead works towards helping everyone because just like a small tribe if we don't come together we will tears ourselves apart.
@MidwesternMarx
@MidwesternMarx Год назад
Smith did what so many intellectuals do, identifying the specific culture of his historical era with some invented universal form of human nature. In reality human nature, like culture, is conditioned by the mode of production at the base of society, which is eternally in a state of change & development. And thus, human nature is in a constant state of change as well. -Eddie
@MidwesternMarx
@MidwesternMarx Год назад
Also that Graeber book is pretty good. I love comparing it with Engel’s Origins of the Family Private Property and the State, and I cite it a lot in our reading guide for origins.
@knowledgeanddefense1054
@knowledgeanddefense1054 Год назад
"Capitalism is natural" Feudalism: hey back off buddy, I was here first
@geroffmilan3328
@geroffmilan3328 Год назад
Quality work as always. To those who say "it's just human nature" & think that's it, we should give Hitchen's Razor: Assertions made without evidence can simply be dismissed without evidence Collaboration is a force multiplier, competition's benefits are much more limited.
@sebastian2009xd
@sebastian2009xd Год назад
The US now is like two factions that think, "humans are naturally good" and the other one thinks "humans are naturally bad so we must design systems to protect ourselves ". I'm more familiar with the second one that's why is longer.
@coolbanana165
@coolbanana165 Год назад
I watched a program where a few normal people were dropped on an deserted island to try and survive for a few weeks. It always ended up with communism. Everyone shared tools, and all food gathered was shared at the end of the day. People would help others build shelter if they understood how to better. And by the end of the show, that society had develop beyond what it was on day one. Of course that's different from living a whole real life, but it shows it can work to some extent, and it's what people naturally fell into when left to make their own little society. Cooperation and sharing. No one trying to create money or gain more resources for themselves.
@MutualistSoc
@MutualistSoc Год назад
Majority of Americans aren't even Anti Socialism. I will often describe Free Market Socialism to them and they will agree with it. And then I'll take it a step further and say eventually we can make it where there is no profit incentive. (This is when their brain starts ticking) and they say, yeah that'd be nice but it'll never happen. My American brothers and sisters are Pro Free Enterprise, but they aren't Capitalist when you break it down to the principles and ignore the bold text words like Capitalism and Socialism.
@MK_ULTRA420
@MK_ULTRA420 Год назад
Corporations killed free enterprise. A corporation is a business that has signed a contract with the government to pay taxes and follow regulations, in exchange for money if they're useful enough to the government. Also, Ancom wouldn't work in America the moment any major argument arises that would require an authority to intervene. Ancap is even less viable because the government is always the biggest customer. As nationalist as it sounds, maybe American Exceptionalism could make a Socialist Republic work. I still doubt it because that would mean sacrificing the USD's reserve currency status, which is almost priceless.
@dartnight365
@dartnight365 Год назад
The main argument that i use when they said that people doesn't do nothing without a greedy return... Is "why don't you charge your 5 year son for the food that he eat? Why you give food and shelter to a dog that can't repaid you in an economic matter?"
@alexxx4434
@alexxx4434 Год назад
They repay you by different means. And children can be viewed as a form of investment, and self-continuation (a form of selfishness).
@VeganSemihCyprus33
@VeganSemihCyprus33 Год назад
Technology chose capitalism and is going to kill us all 👉The Connections (2021) [short documentary]🔥
@benhuang2773
@benhuang2773 Год назад
Considering how certain parents are, do you really want to give them ideas?
@dartnight365
@dartnight365 Год назад
@@benhuang2773 nope, but on internet it usually work, becouse they can't say out loud that XD
@dartnight365
@dartnight365 Год назад
@@alexxx4434 oh really? So a child had to repay you if he want to live?
@lymb3914
@lymb3914 Год назад
I feel like education is so important right now, and I think we could all - myself included - use more of it
@cyrileo
@cyrileo Год назад
"I completely agree! Education is paramount, and we should all use it to fight for a better society."
@Gigamokin
@Gigamokin Год назад
and yet higher education now is pro comunist pro socialist indoctrination
@coolioso808
@coolioso808 Год назад
Education, and the transference of education passed down from generations, maybe well be the greatest gift humanity has and the root of any of our social progress as a species. Knowing that, we might as well use education as a key to our next evolution forward. I'd like to see people desire to understand more than to desire to seek confirmation bias.
@owfan4134
@owfan4134 Год назад
As far as I'm concerned, the Chinese philosopher Mengzi (Mencius) made the most concise and sufficient argument for innate goodness and that has never been meaningfully expanded on or eclipsed since. He says, “Why do I say that all people possess within them a moral sense that cannot bear the suffering of others? Well, imagine now a person who, all of a sudden, sees a small child on the verge of falling down into a well. Any such person would experience a sudden sense of fright and dismay. This feeling would not be something he summoned up in order to establish good relations with the child’s parents. He would not purposefully feel this way in order to win the praise of their friends and neighbors. Nor would he feel this way because the screams of the child would be unpleasant." He goes on to describe how bafflingly unthinkable such an exception to this rule would be that such a person couldn't even be described as "person" (ren) at all. The words he used are Chinese, and thus have nuance not easily translatable to English, but the concepts are roughly identical. We are social animals that, from our earliest conception, are dependent on each other. Anyone who seems to violate the principles of interdependence or denies their concern for others is shutting down a core motivating force that underlies the whole of our cognitive endowment as living organisms. You have to make a *choice* for this to happen, it doesn't occur as a result of "growing up" or "learning how the world works". The greatest flaw in our society that can possibly exist is one which undermines the fundamental reality of human consciousness. Mencius' philosophy was primarily based on arguments which took the fundamental likes and dislikes of the king he was speaking to and extended the roots of those proclivities to the common people, who he asserted were of identical nature. To the Confucians, all members of society were part of one chain of being that, if exhibiting filial piety to those above and below them, would naturally result in harmony and goodness. Mencius' philosophy was philosophy only in the sense that it directed the attention of others to their own basic needs and desires and extended their implications towards all others in the Confucian chain of being. It's true that he never conceived of a world without a king or without a vast portion of the population in positions of forced labor, but as later philosophers such as Hume, Locke, and Kant would expand the perfidy of systems of belief and governance in denying this fundamental reality, none have more accurately identified that flaw's root. There were other schools of philosophy during Mencius' time as a roaming counselor to kings, such as the Mohist, Daoist, and Legalist schools; Mencius represented what he believed was authentic Confucianism, and marketed himself as such to kings by relying heavily on mythical tales of China's ancient past and the likely fictional Sage Kings who ruled them. Even if Mencius were to realize that evidence to support the existence of a primordial era of sagely rule is virtually nonexistent, it wouldn't have mattered to him at all, nor should it matter to us. Historical precedence and observable behavior play a role in specific legislation or practical policy, specifically in regards to making convincing and thorough arguments- they do not have any effect on the process of self-awareness that each human being goes through in awakening to their core nature as social organisms designed implicitly for service to others. Mohism advocated for militant discipline, Daoism for non-action, Legalism for draconian laws of extreme punishment; Mencius simply wanted to convince people to stop murdering each other. His belief system and school of "philosophy" were pretty much whatever they needed to be to get people to stop murdering each other, leading to his later criticism by those who rightfully observed his hypocritic tendencies towards self-justification regardless of circumstance. I hope you enjoyed reading this, and I encourage you to read about Mencius and his career as a traveling court counselor. Take care, friend.
@jamesrocket5616
@jamesrocket5616 Год назад
Thanks for sharing ancient Chinese wisdom here
@drphosferrous
@drphosferrous Год назад
We can choose and create our socioeconomic organisation methods deliberately and collectively. That's a huge evolutionary advantage, regardless of the successes and failures in our history. There are many among us who want us to think we have no choice. Great vid,btw
@VeganSemihCyprus33
@VeganSemihCyprus33 Год назад
Technology chose capitalism and is going to kill us all 👉The Connections (2021) [short documentary]🔥
@drphosferrous
@drphosferrous Год назад
@@VeganSemihCyprus33 did we really choose this system democratically or collectively? Seems like it was imposed from above and sustained through constant ongoing deceptions.
@juliav.mcclelland2415
@juliav.mcclelland2415 Год назад
The key word being choice. Let socialists open co-ops and share profits and means of production and equally distribute resources to everyone in the group -- everyone who wants to should be allowed to do so. Just also let people who prefer not to be responsible for strangers keep what they earn or what customers and stockholders willingly give them. Just give people the choice of communal ownership or individual ownership, and everybody operates, sells, buys, functions in the group of their choice, and everyone wins.
@drphosferrous
@drphosferrous Год назад
@@juliav.mcclelland2415 sounds good but who owns things like the water in the ground, the space the public needs to exist, or the infrastructures that were built with taxdollars that commerce depends on? What about government itself? Shouldn't those things be collectively owned and democratically controlled? Are there any good reasons for those things to be in control of whoever has the most wealth?
@cyrileo
@cyrileo Год назад
I completely agree! We have to change our perspective in order to create a better world.
@kataruchitraketh
@kataruchitraketh Год назад
We are not selfish and greedy. We are forced to be so. Upon realising the truth, I felt so sad for being so. I don't know how many times i scolded my best friends and my relatives.
@williemherbert1456
@williemherbert1456 Год назад
We are selfish and greedy because not we're forced into by ourselves, but by this world being finite with resources and time to do things and get things for the sake of survival and thriving in such short window of opportunity, limited by space too.
@toyotaprius79
@toyotaprius79 Год назад
We're forced and taught to be selfish out of fear and competition that someone would steal our lunch for themselves.
@kataruchitraketh
@kataruchitraketh Год назад
​@@williemherbert1456 We are not forced by ourselves but the conditions we live in make us selfish and greedy.
@cetriyasArtnComicsChannel
@cetriyasArtnComicsChannel Год назад
it feels like chiken or egg type thing. are we greedy cause we have to? or we have to since greed was at the start? just the fact that people are obsessed with 'exclisitivity' and desire to be 'better than the other person' makes me not have much confidence. In the same situation, you give a loaf of bread to 2 people and you'll end up with 2 different situations. The difference is, as I assume for this video, is that those who give kindly will actually fight to keep equality verse just randomly giving things out just to give out. so yeah, I agree that 'be cause we're greedy' is not a reason to keep capitalism as is, its just to keep the status quo. At the same time, we do need to be active in our social community to keep things in check.
@williemherbert1456
@williemherbert1456 Год назад
@Zaydan Alfariz And we're lusting that materialistic object for what exactly? Survival. Having more pillow casing of life as means of security would be everyone's dream in living a life here and then. No one want to tires themself into wrecked workaholics behavior that just disregard balance with living life into ominous degree, yet here we are.
@patpowers9210
@patpowers9210 11 месяцев назад
I initially became a socialist because I realized that in any capitalist system, regulation eventually becomes impossible. Once capitalists have enough money to bribe government officials to do whatever they like, all attempts to regulate businesses are stymied. Which is what we have right now. Socialists are needed to regulate capitalism, if it's to work at all,. But capitalists regard ANYTHING that gets in the way of making more money as just another thing to be destroyed or subverted, and that includes socialists and socialism. It's just the way the capitalist machine works, and it's why it always turns into a monster that devours itself and the society that hosts it. Hence, socialism.
@BaldingClamydia
@BaldingClamydia Год назад
I think they are good examples. My go to response is to point out how selfless people are during a catastrophe. We have hurricanes down here, everyone ends up checking on each other, people that don't know each other will share food, etc. If you're having a rough time in general, I know several Karens that will feed and clothe you. There ARE tons of ways humans care for each other all the time, whether they know each other or not. People are shit in a crowd, but that's a psychological effect.
@hithere9393
@hithere9393 Год назад
I have ADHD put I make sure to play the whole video just to promote it on the algorithm, workers unite 🙏
@anonymousinfinido2540
@anonymousinfinido2540 Год назад
Same here, got my meds today
@aaaowski7048
@aaaowski7048 Год назад
worker unite... under the domination of the party. its like, you own the means of production... but still produce what the party says, how much the party said, and sell it for the price the part decided. thats not ownership. thats being a janitor.
@planefan082
@planefan082 Год назад
@@aaaowski7048 Except you control the party via democracy and pretty much every model of socialism I've seen over the past few years involves the ability to choose what work you do.
@aaaowski7048
@aaaowski7048 Год назад
​@@planefan082 hahahah there is no democracy under communism the party regulates itself. all the votes are done internally. plebs get no say. and yes, you can choose your work. usually. wasnt the case in cambodia, or china for quite a period. but thats not ownership of the means of production, not in the slightest. where im getting with that is that even the prime argument for communism. is a blatant lie.
@aaaowski7048
@aaaowski7048 Год назад
​@@user-yf7hy7bp8l friend, however you might look at it, socialism is not democracy. in all of its flavors, in order to have a say in socialism, you had to be a memeber of the party. and a high ranking one. to have political decision power or to take part in decisionmaking through vote you had to be part of the central committee. still have to be. wherever communism still exists, like china. theres a saying in socialist countries: everyone is equal, but some are more equal than others.
@user-em6ie2be7x
@user-em6ie2be7x Год назад
Everyone watching this has probably heard this Classic "Young people want everything handed to them" despite the fact Old Generations (Mainly Boomers) had things like Free College and more opportunities handed to them.
@aaaowski7048
@aaaowski7048 Год назад
no, i rather heard stories of "work pioneers" who can do "10x the norm". those stories were promoted by fat, greedy party members who made a killing on sending all our surplus to the great brother rasha. communism? capitalism? its same same. a turd will always float to the top of the tank.
@zmc9403
@zmc9403 Год назад
We do and the copium makes sense too, from a psychological perspective. Older generations didn’t need to dream of having things handed to them in order to live a reasonable life. If they worked reasonably hard, they could achieve ‘the dream’. Contrast that to today where even some people making a couple times the national average feel they need to live with their parents because housing is so unaffordable. You have to dream of getting it for free, because there’s little chance you can earn it.
@VeganSemihCyprus33
@VeganSemihCyprus33 Год назад
Technology chose capitalism and is going to kill us all 👉The Connections (2021) [short documentary]🔥
@anasabdelrahim963
@anasabdelrahim963 Год назад
Ubuntu: I am because we are. “An anthropologist studying the habits and customs of an African tribe found himself surrounded by children most days. So he decided to play a little game with them. He managed to get candy from the nearest town and put it all in a decorated basket at the foot of a tree. Then he called the children and suggested they play the game. When the anthropologist said “now”, the children had to run to the tree and the first one to get there could have all the candy to him/herself. So the children all lined up waiting for the signal. When the anthropologist said “now”, all of the children took each other by the hand and ran together towards the tree. They all arrived at the same time divided up the candy, sat down and began to happily munch away. The anthropologist went over to them and asked why they had all run together when any one of them could have had the candy all to themselves. The children responded: “Ubuntu. How could any one of us be happy if all the others were sad?” Ubuntu is a philosophy of some African tribes that can be summed up as “I am what I am because of who we all are.” In 2008, Bishop Desmond Tutu gave this explanation of “ubuntu” . . . “One of the sayings in our country is “Ubuntu”, the essence of being human. Ubuntu speaks particularly about the fact that you can’t exist as a human being in isolation. It speaks about our inter-connection. You can’t be human all by yourself, and when you have this quality - Ubuntu - you are known for your generosity. We think of ourselves far too frequently as just individuals, separated from one another, whereas you are connected and what you do affects the whole world. When you do well, it spreads out; it is for the whole of humanity.”
@qw3rty45df
@qw3rty45df Год назад
BRO I'm so happy to finally see someone mention Graeber's "Debt" book. It's sooooo good. I've seriously listened to the ebook about 20 times. I spent the entire video until you mentioned it actually thinking, "Wow, this video is really giving me big David Graeber vibes" and then you went and did it my boy
@Nikolajnen
@Nikolajnen Год назад
My man! These kind of things need to be discussed for the better good, and people's well-being.
@VeganSemihCyprus33
@VeganSemihCyprus33 Год назад
Technology chose capitalism and is going to kill us all 👉The Connections (2021) [short documentary]🔥
@cyrileo
@cyrileo Год назад
"I wholeheartedly agree! Let's keep the conversation going!"
@RoughGalaxyYT
@RoughGalaxyYT Год назад
This is a great point, back when I was doing gta5 RP, I did twitch overlays for the people that streamed it totally for free. It felt great to see my work out there and get requests for more. Giving away my overlays ended up with people sending me donations on paypal for what they thought it was worth.
@VeganSemihCyprus33
@VeganSemihCyprus33 Год назад
Technology chose capitalism and is going to kill us all 👉The Connections (2021) [short documentary]🔥
@ncyikcvjxiw8936
@ncyikcvjxiw8936 Год назад
it sounds like it was in your self interest(selfish) to do that because you profited in feeling good and donations
@chrisparsons2791
@chrisparsons2791 Год назад
Never back down! Never compromise! Keep doing what you do best J.T., debunk the lies, and speak the truth. I admire your courage. Honestly, you're an inspiration bro. Best random recommend I ever got from youtube was your channel. I love your videos man!
@seanb.6793
@seanb.6793 Год назад
It scares me how strongly some people will grab onto, and hold onto, power. They’ll dominate and exploit others in almost any system, and blocking that dominance needs to be the first priority of any system attempting to make change.
@Dragrath1
@Dragrath1 Год назад
Yeah there seems to be a personality type which equates their self worth based on their ability to lord over other people they don't seem to be common but they are naturally inclined to bully and seek the highest positions of power they can in order to abuse it. Its hard to decouple nature versus nurture but they certainly thrive in capitalism making things worse for everyone else.
@a-garden-of-worlds
@a-garden-of-worlds Год назад
If I could live my life being able to create art without having to make money to survive then I would likely just give stuff away that I make for free, even taking free requests. I love making things and sharing those things. I hate having to make money to survive.
@sebastian2009xd
@sebastian2009xd Год назад
Well, the world doesn't care if you don't wanna do anything in order to survive, or just grow your own food or something 🤔 🙄😒
@coolioso808
@coolioso808 Год назад
You are doing an important critical thinking exercise that I wish every child, every adult and every person got a chance to do: Imagine a Moneyless Society. There are some great TedTalks about this, one by Colin Turner, I'd recommend people check out. The truth is we have the resources and technology to meet all human needs, in abundance, without any need for people to labor for income. We can localize and automate most essential goods and services. We can collaborate and share to add to that abundance of access. We would, over time, need to work less and have more free time to do with it what we want. Funny enough, if we had more truly free time, like you said, we would often use it for things that also enhance our community like creating and sharing art. Maybe if you lived in a Moneyless Society and the local community centre needed some refurbishment, you and some other artists would paint a mural that is truly inspiring and meaningful for the people in that town. If I was in a Moneyless Society, I would be happy to do just about anything that added to the parks and recreation opportunities of the community. I'd be involved in building a new gymnasium and rec centre. I'd be involved in instructing classes. I'd be participating in fitness and sport-related activities on a weekly basis, to maintain and enhance my health. What would other people do? I'm sure so many amazing things.
@sebastian2009xd
@sebastian2009xd Год назад
@@coolioso808 what? Quedeeee
@coolioso808
@coolioso808 Год назад
@@sebastian2009xd please note my comment was not intended for people unwilling or incapable of critical thinking. Those with a selfish mindset are free to move along.
@sebastian2009xd
@sebastian2009xd Год назад
@@coolioso808 your comment is public for everyone to see, and your comment also lacks critical thinking (no hate).
@lightbringer2938
@lightbringer2938 Год назад
Capitalism favors sociopaths and psychopaths; that's why for-profit corporations do so well.
@Manny-fc8ym
@Manny-fc8ym Год назад
Empathy, preservation of yourself and your species is our nature
@icyx9268
@icyx9268 Год назад
what this culture calls "empathy" or "compassion" is just basic human behavioral actions
@Prownilo
@Prownilo Год назад
We've spent generations saying the only way to get ahead is to be selfish and to exploit others, then turn around and are shocked that people act that way? Maybe we need to go into the nature vs nurture debate. It's not human nature to be selfish, it's nurtured in us.
@logans3365
@logans3365 Год назад
The answer I always get is “that’s just the way things are” anytime I question how we do things and come up with a better way. I don’t understand how the majority of people are so complacent.
@that_viewerguy
@that_viewerguy Год назад
This is the result of TINA (There-Is-No-Alternative) capitalism. Such that even those who criticize the system do it with hopelessness: it's bad, but there's really nothing else. Read Mark Fisher's Capitalist Realism if you want to know more about this.
@carrieullrich5059
@carrieullrich5059 Год назад
They gave up hoping for better. That's it. 😥❤
@Simboiss
@Simboiss Год назад
Most people are not active enough intellectually to produce a full concept of socialism in their head. And since most of the time, we spend our days not hearing about such things, any idea vaguely ressembling socialism feels alien to most people.
@logans3365
@logans3365 Год назад
@@Simboiss getting screwed by the owner class doesn’t feel alien at all, I would think that would motivate more people to look for a better way. Of course I guess some people just can’t connect those dots .
@st.altair4936
@st.altair4936 8 месяцев назад
How fascinating that people are encouraged to be selfish and exploitative in a system designed to reward exploitation and selfishness.
@Nevarek_
@Nevarek_ Год назад
Yes! Thank you for mentioning David Graeber's work here. He destroys the Adam Smith premise so thoroughly and actually gives many examples of alternatives that had existed and worked perfectly fine. Some were bizarre, too! It was thrilling to read, and even better to find further reading elsewhere when you know what to look for.
@reversefulfillment9189
@reversefulfillment9189 Год назад
You really produced a quality accessible video here. You're just so damn good at this. I just watched young Karl Marx a film from 2018 It was really good. Anyways I'm just leaving this message for the algorithm and to tell you that you're doing great.
@VeganSemihCyprus33
@VeganSemihCyprus33 Год назад
Technology chose capitalism and is going to kill us all 👉The Connections (2021) [short documentary]🔥
@reversefulfillment9189
@reversefulfillment9189 Год назад
@@VeganSemihCyprus33 I'll check it out man
@54tisfaction
@54tisfaction Год назад
This always reminds me of how Conservatives think that faced with a natural catastrophe the population of a city will go berserk and try to kill, loot, and plunder each other and their wealthier neighbors for survivals sake. So their first response is to call for authoritarian measures like sending in the military to protect their lives and property, rather than send in humanitarian aid and support for the population to put their resources to good use. Like when hurricane Catharina hit New Orleans. While the mostly black population tried to help one another, bands of heavily armed white mercenaries, police and National guards descended on the city to control (and in some cases murder) people in need of assistance.
@LoLo1k2k3k
@LoLo1k2k3k Год назад
in the words of richard wolff, if you have a verbal commitment to democracy you are going to have a BIG problem justifying capitalism.
@froster42
@froster42 Год назад
Amazing how decades of propaganda has convinced the majority of the US population the opposite is true.
@in_haunt
@in_haunt Год назад
Human nature has always had a super fluidity about it. The nurture part of nature vs nurture
@DecolonialGato
@DecolonialGato Год назад
JT hitting another home run with this one. Great content, I love getting that notification of your videos published every week!
@VeganSemihCyprus33
@VeganSemihCyprus33 Год назад
Technology chose capitalism and is going to kill us all 👉The Connections (2021) [short documentary]🔥
@temi6034
@temi6034 Год назад
This guys just be dropping most thought provoking videos
@MikeMW87
@MikeMW87 Год назад
and being wrong all the time with his naratives.
@sebastian2009xd
@sebastian2009xd Год назад
He literally just repeated the same thing for 18 minutes. You have to question yourself if you're thinking the world is so simple that you believe people actually think the world can be explained by "humans are just naturally greedy", or "those people are saying that because they want to keep oppressing us". Even though he has a point, these explanations are no different.
@kcaustin904
@kcaustin904 Год назад
@@sebastian2009xd that’s about a vague of a comparison I’ve seen
@sebastian2009xd
@sebastian2009xd Год назад
@@kcaustin904 I didn't even make a comparison
@kcaustin904
@kcaustin904 Год назад
@@sebastian2009xd you said those two quotes are no different
@amycollins8832
@amycollins8832 11 месяцев назад
There are remnants tribes that are still barely hanging on in corners of the world. They naturally practice a form of socialism in their hunts and the take care of their own. If someone were to be deprived of meat from the hunt the one that is trying to take a double share would be ostracized and ultimately banished by the elders in a well organized tribe. Ones reputation is directly related to how fair they are.
@Thirdman11
@Thirdman11 Год назад
I'm shocked on how much we are indoctrinated into capitalism. Thanks for sharing, great way of presenting your ideas. I have to admit I'm an example of those where socialism grew out of when entering the workforce. But everyday I have more empirical evidence that this rampant capitalist that we live in is not the way we deserve.
@thantosking1556
@thantosking1556 Год назад
Good day JT! Just finished binging The New F Word the other day. You continue to prove time and time again how great you are at providing educational content that is easy to comprehend and entertaining. Solve to support all the great work you do comrade! Never give up on the fight! Your work makes ripples that we will see the effects of for a long time to come.
@avollant
@avollant Год назад
You forgotten to add that Scarecity reinforce Capitalime... so it is in the interest of the Capitaliste to keep the rest of us in precarius condition.... or to be exact locked into survival mode. Because while you are busy surviving, you won't be able to try changing the system... it is a win-win for the Oligarche.
@satevo462
@satevo462 Год назад
My sister hit me with, "Europeans pays more taxes". I asked how much do you pay for healthcare? She said "oh, a shit ton"..... Still not gonna change. Capitalism good Socialism bad. In her defense, she ignores politics. And she be gay yo. She was going to a drag show in our small town. I warned her that drag shows are being targeted by crazy right wingers. She laughed it off. A few days before the show that she already bought ticket to, it was cancelled due to creditable threats the FBI brought to the attention of the restaurant owner.... Yeah, pay more attention sis. Love you.
@CaptainAricDeron
@CaptainAricDeron Год назад
The "human nature" argument never held water for me. Like, capitalism is an invention. It's as much a part of "human nature" as horse saddles, writing, jet fighters, and social media. Inventions are great, but they don't work if you don't know how it works.
@detheater128
@detheater128 Год назад
This is the best part of my Friday morning
@aaaowski7048
@aaaowski7048 Год назад
>watching half bake propaganda what a sad life you must have
@VeganSemihCyprus33
@VeganSemihCyprus33 Год назад
Technology chose capitalism and is going to kill us all 👉The Connections (2021) [short documentary]🔥
@memememepee
@memememepee Год назад
Lmfao I was going to try and watch these to have real conversations with people in the comments but if you see something literally labeled “why abolishing your social security is awesome” and you don’t realize it’s paid propaganda you are to far gone. Next video “why you should take a pay cut at work while working longer hours” Or maybe “why fighting for your rights is actually bad” Good luck lunatics
@PatriciaCross
@PatriciaCross Год назад
Human altruism is simultaneously the answer to "how do good works happen under capitalism?", and something that magically doesn't really exist the moment we talk about socialism. Even is Addams was correct about the idea our nature is to trade and Capitalism is the latest step in our improving on that, it doesn't mean the next step is not Socialism. If we find a better way of doing things, that is what we should do. Even if it were this ideal system we came upon, it can have its flaws that need improving on. We can see very clear flaws, it is a system strained beyond its limits. It is a system preventing us from advancing. Scale is always a flaw needing addressing, and never one we can truly plan for. We need to replace Capitalism with a system that works at the scale we need right now and into the future. He is not correct, as you laid out; but even if you take the arguments at face value, it implies Capitalism is just a step.
@GayBrain
@GayBrain Год назад
If only the capitalists would take the next step then, huh? Wonder why it hasn't improved for anybody else, why every people's children look so clueless at the prospect of a future in this economy.
@frankfilippelli
@frankfilippelli Год назад
Man your channel is truly top notch! As a capitalist myself I often find it very hard to dispute your arguments and I can’t really see how any rational, open minded person could disagree. You make very valid points and your delivery is flawless. Great work! 👍
@BostonRobb
@BostonRobb Год назад
💚Keep educating the people JT. Revolution doesn’t come thru brute force, but Revolution happens in the hearts & minds of the people. 💚✊💚
@VeganSemihCyprus33
@VeganSemihCyprus33 Год назад
Technology chose capitalism and is going to kill us all 👉The Connections (2021) [short documentary]🔥
@JD-qq8fz
@JD-qq8fz Год назад
"Man, since we can't seem to agree on what is a good way to organize our society, so let's just do it in the way we all agree is bad. Waaay simpler." (shrugs) -Adam Smith, probably
@Lincoln_Bio
@Lincoln_Bio Год назад
Pretty much, Wealth of Nations is wildly uncritical of the systems it sets out in such detail, I think it's around book 4 he casually states the primary function of the state is to protect property owners from the poor
@alexxx4434
@alexxx4434 Год назад
Humans are lazy (read economical), they would only change the previous simpler system if it becomes completely unsuitable. So far it's not yet painfully clear to everyone that capitalism is failing. But capitalism has found a loophole through fascism to preserve itself and repeat the cycle, after massive killings and destructions.
@VeganSemihCyprus33
@VeganSemihCyprus33 Год назад
Technology chose capitalism and is going to kill us all 👉The Connections (2021) [short documentary]🔥🔥🔥
@notoriouswhitemoth
@notoriouswhitemoth Год назад
The first human civilizations were communes. The first economies were built on gifts, trust, and debt and equity being the same thing. If capitalism were natural, why wasn't it proposed until the 18th century, and why did it take more than a century and a global war after that for it to become the status quo?
@DMO-DMO-DMO
@DMO-DMO-DMO Год назад
ALSO - despite what people say about Adam Smith re greed and the "invisible hand," etc... He also had the explicit assumption that all people participating in society have functioning feelings of EMPATHY. He said that a person can't help but feel pained at the sight of someone that needs help
@tiagomoraes9150
@tiagomoraes9150 Год назад
Libtards be like " socialism doesn't work because people are greedy, but capitalism works because people are not greedy"
@fake10hourentertainment17
@fake10hourentertainment17 Год назад
I think even if it is, in a hypothetical situation where only machines work and people don't (a scarcity free society, like Star Trek for instance) this wouldn't matter.
@VeganSemihCyprus33
@VeganSemihCyprus33 Год назад
Technology chose capitalism and is going to kill us all 👉The Connections (2021) [short documentary]🔥
@ericpeterson2960
@ericpeterson2960 Год назад
We are social animals. Yes, we are competetive. We are also cooperative. Generocity is in our nature. If you are not generous, cooperative, and competative you are not human.
@VeganSemihCyprus33
@VeganSemihCyprus33 Год назад
Technology chose capitalism and is going to kill us all 👉The Connections (2021) [short documentary]🔥🔥🔥
@MikeMW87
@MikeMW87 Год назад
4% of population are psychopaths ... I had a friend who broke a random dudes nose for 5 cents. In school we used to make the losers get into dumpsters. Same dude would get out of a car and help the old lady cross the streat. Start learning about human psychology and you will learn we are animals and we only cooperate if there is always a reward ...i help you today you might help me some other time...
@ericpeterson2960
@ericpeterson2960 Год назад
@@MikeMW87 sounds more like the people you affiliate urself with are psychopaths. The people i have known are generous and kind hearted. Sure there are a few who are crazy arseholes but thats maybe one or two vs the hundreds ive met. Ive helped many people in a tight spot, all it cost me was time and effort. Rarely saw them again, also had people help me when i was in a tight spot, rarely saw them again. The idea of "pay it forward" is real. Its natural for a social creature. The reward is simple, doing whats human.
@carlterry9686
@carlterry9686 Год назад
Retiring soon, my positions are depleted. My spouse and I are adding a variety of stocks/ETF to my present holdings for the long term, We've set aside $250k to start following inflation-indexed bonds and stocks of companies with solid cash flows, I believe it is a good time to capitalize on the market for long-term gains, but it wouldn't hurt to know means of actualizing short term profitS.
@justingregory2965
@justingregory2965 Год назад
with looming inflation I hired an advisor Dec last year, I am hedging with fixed income and a long/short defensive strategy she employs, enough to keep my head above water.
@carlterry9686
@carlterry9686 Год назад
@@justingregory2965 We are having the hardest time getting ANY cpa to answer some questions in my area, I am skeptical about taking RU-vid financial advice videos as they may not be peculiar to us, as much my portfolio needs one my problem is how to get to a qualitative one with expertise and a low based fee.
@justingregory2965
@justingregory2965 Год назад
@@carlterry9686 That is a given. Don’t take advice from a random RU-vidr not even myself. Do your research and due diligence before you partner with any ‘advisor’. I consult with Karen Marie Emma. she's verified on Finra, she's a risk analyst for a number of banks and brokerage firms. she's very good.
@brownkelly2033
@brownkelly2033 Год назад
@@justingregory2965 do u consider Karen worthy for recommendations? I have about 80k to taste the waters now that large cap stocks are at a discount... thanks
@justingregory2965
@justingregory2965 Год назад
@@brownkelly2033 She's very good, just lookup the name and you'll see her page to connect with her, there you can have all the information you need.
@Chickadee2202
@Chickadee2202 Год назад
5:57 I literally just watched a video on social media this morning of a dog trading one of his favorite items for something his human had. I'm sure there are more examples of other animals trading (as well as just giving each other things) if people actually watched animals and considered their actions as intelligent and intentional. We're not the only ones to trade and give others desired items.
@Mirvra
@Mirvra Год назад
There have been a hilariously large amount of cases of crows, ravens, and other corvids trading shiny stuff with humans they like for food. People often forget that the only difference between humans and other animals is that we grew intelligent faster. Other animals were either content with the level of intelligence they had, or have been slowly getting close and closer to humans as the years pass on by.
@Loud2013
@Loud2013 Год назад
I was thinking of this too, that whole argument is so obviously pulled from thin air
@Adrian-wh3mk
@Adrian-wh3mk Год назад
Here’s a thought. Economists ran with the misappropriation of Darwin’s statement of “survival of the fittest”. They emphasize competition because it was beneficial to markets and capitalism. However, at some point, everyone forgot that no market would exist if it was not for cooperation, Cooperation, greater than competition.
@denelson83
@denelson83 Год назад
Cooperation is found within a species. Competition is found between species.
@Adrian-wh3mk
@Adrian-wh3mk Год назад
@@denelson83 competition also exists within species, numbnuts, at the very least for mates.
@denelson83
@denelson83 Год назад
@@Adrian-wh3mk Ooh, an ad hominem.
@knightofsvea604
@knightofsvea604 Год назад
"I found it is the small everyday deeds of ordinary folk that keep the darkness at bay… small acts of kindness and love." (Gandalf the Grey, in The Hobbit) by J.R.R.Tolkien
@sashhhaa4874
@sashhhaa4874 Год назад
I feel like the world is very traditionalist and that’s why there’s still so much inequality. It’s like we know that such processes in the past such as racism and sexism were bad and we condemn them, to an extent, but not fully. In the past capitalism was thought to be the only way for the world’s economy to work but now we know that that’s not the case and there are other options that are more inclusive and benefit everyone but the greedy people at the top who have been benefiting from the past ideals for years don’t want to let go of tradition that made them rich and powerful. And so the world remains unequal and poverty remains. 😔
@willtrammell9860
@willtrammell9860 Год назад
Capitalism selects for selfishness and Socialism selects for cooperation. What world do we want to live in?
@willtrammell9860
@willtrammell9860 Год назад
@@anthonymorris5084 It's nice that wealthy people are sometimes charitable with their money (though this is obviously no silver lining in a country with such wealth inequality). But the "winners" of capitalism (talking about very wealthy business owners) are still the selfish; those willing to maximally exploit the labor of others, willing to cut costs and raise prices to the detriment of the consumer, willing to influence politics to the detriment of society at large. That's what I meant by saying capitalism selects for selfishness. The proponents of capitalism know this and argue that selfishness isn't all that bad a thing. As for cooperation in market pricing... I don't remember all of us agreeing with the oil corps to raise gas prices last year. They're reaping record profit at our expense. Don't we seem a little powerless here?
@willtrammell9860
@willtrammell9860 Год назад
@@anthonymorris5084 Thanks for the thoughtful reply. But so far as I'm concerned your defenses of billionaire philanthropy and oil profits are echoes of corporate PR. Billionaire philanthropy is an investment; it allows the super wealthy to evade taxes, wield massive political influence, and portray their class as necessary to the societal good. There are many good videos on this topic on RU-vid. And I know the causes of market pricing are multiple and complicated. But this narrative that oil companies must seek record profits because they've been "demonized" baffles. Their power is still immense and regulations on fossil fuels remain weak due to lobbying efforts.
@willtrammell9860
@willtrammell9860 Год назад
@@anthonymorris5084 I'm obviously not speaking about all entrepreneurs. No one has beef with the small business owner. The concern is power and certain corporations in our country have amassed enormous power. And no, I don’t think the world is evil or all people are greedy. I think our system enables and protects the power of massive corporations. And no, I don’t think Gretzky or U2 were motivated firstly by money. Human greatness never is. Frankly, you insult athletes and artists by placing the billionaire on their level. Bill Gates had a terrible public image in the 1990s. Microsoft was busted for antitrust practices in the late 90s/early 00s. Though under no obligation, the creation of his foundation was a tactical move to consolidate his power through the resuscitation of his public image. (I’m sure it also serves the purpose of alleviating his guilt for hoarding so much wealth/exploiting so many people). Billionaire philanthropy is an old strategy, and was employed widely by our gilded age robber barons too. Of course, some billionaire money has helped the underprivileged, but let’s not be blind to the dynamics of power here. And anyway, how can we congratulate those who give a little when they’ve “won” in a system that rewards massive exploitation? Why should we wait for the whim of a billionaire to fix some issue in society? I’d rather give democracy a real go. I’m sure it’ll have its flaws too, but at least then people like you and me can participate.
@Spectral-Spiff
@Spectral-Spiff Год назад
The funny thing is these videos always get uploaded right before i go to work XD
@gastonneal724
@gastonneal724 Год назад
I really like this guy, I meet the polar opposite too often.
@VeganSemihCyprus33
@VeganSemihCyprus33 Год назад
Technology chose capitalism and is going to kill us all 👉The Connections (2021) [short documentary]🔥
@gastonneal724
@gastonneal724 Год назад
@@VeganSemihCyprus33 I don't believe in the apocalypse or Armageddon. Our job is to work until we stop, as if the planet will spin on forever. That hopeless talk is exactly what he was speaking against. Get some balls and work the best YOU can. Towards better lives for us all, that is all we can do.
@Lichenlikenedlich
@Lichenlikenedlich Год назад
If human nature is so pointless to oppose then why have laws? Holding moral standards is fine when it's for imprisoning folks. We live in a society!
@Lichenlikenedlich
@Lichenlikenedlich Год назад
Markets are smart because democracy? ok why not run businesses democratically?
@jimleon6634
@jimleon6634 Год назад
Excellent, as always! But, I wanted to offer a few respectful criticisms: I’ve read Wealth of Nations cover to cover. I don’t know if you have, but my reading of the text did not cause me to take away the sort of silly “pro-capitalist” tropes and axioms that are typically proffered by the neoliberal ideologues of today. If anything, I read Smith as having an almost “proto-socialist” view on society, albeit one that saw barter and trade as central. Given that he was writing at a time when modern bourgeois towns and cities were just beginning to spring up in Scotland, his text conveys an optimism about the power of “free trade” to counter the excesses and abuses of the mercantilist forms of government at the time. But, when his “free trade” mantras are taking together with many of the other ideas he saw as important to a fair society, it’s hard to imagine he’d place himself anywhere remotely close to the “free market” ideologues of today. I’ve also read Marx’s Capital and was surprised to find a large share of footnotes dedicated to Smith. Many were critical of Smith, but almost an equal number were not. I think this further supports the idea that Smith would absolutely reject the capitalist system as it has developed today and the “neoclassical” (just neoliberal) economists and thinkers that continue to use Smith as their “Founding Father”. Just my thoughts! Love your channel! Keep up the great work!
@coalminecanary1277
@coalminecanary1277 Год назад
Imagine Vikings lecturing their kids about how taking other people's stuff is just sooooo natural and good
@marcusnguginganga2829
@marcusnguginganga2829 Год назад
It seems people just seem to forget a lot of the good things that humans do to and for each other and just dive straight into the negatives. It's quite sad.
@sonic8005
@sonic8005 Год назад
Watched this literally after listening to a review on Ayn Rand's book The Fountainhead... and it's kind of interesting to me how even the books that glorify capitalism as if it's the only system that works, actively demonstrate the flaws in that Howard Roark *constantly* goes against what would make him money because it would compromise his vision as his artistic vision mattered far more to him than the actual profit.
@nrauschermusic
@nrauschermusic Год назад
Damn Smith’s whole philosophy really is the 18th c. Equivalent of a middle schooler from the suburbs oversharing their uninformed ruminations on Facebook circa 2009
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