Is Derek Jeter The Most Overrated Player Ever? 

Eventually, he'll wind up back with the Yankees. The only question is in what capacity.

Lol you’ve got to be kidding me….

Apparently he wanted Nick Castellanos and Sherman said no. That's the rumor at the stadium

Psalms 23:4

@Jackson he wanted to start spending and ownership was being cheap

Baines was a great player. I don't think journeyman is an apt description for him. And most likely he didn't receive 75% of a Hall of Fame vote, because of an Onion article.

@@NGVP2 well, it was the onion that called him a journeyman...so the fact that you are disagreeing with a tongue in cheek take from the onion tells me that you must be pretty stupid

The Onion? lmao!

Harold Baines is a hall of famer.

I know it's The Onion, but Jeter wound up with 3400+ hits, and Harold Baines retired with... zero rings. Glad Baines is in the HOF though. 6x all star and an excellent player.

but....that's what this story is about. If he's just a good batter he plays in the American League where they literally have a position that does only that.

I think you're overrating him as an offensive player. Quite a few just from his era alone that put up better numbers.

exactly, he took away time from deserving young players.

Thank you. That was a great squad we had here and he sold it like everyone that’s been in miami.

​@@GBMM7 like I'm thinking, he probably wanted them to disappear 💀

They were top 3. Only the astros and rockies were better.

Trading Stanton was genius. His contract was horrible and so is he for the last few years.

@@TheGodYouWishYouKnewhe was in his prime when he was traded

Yeah. Even Yankees fans know that.

@@scoutisabelle pujols was a great defensive first baseman

Yeah I’m a Jeter lover. He’s my all time favorite. Pujols is better than him. Period.

"Pujols also only ever recorded negative defensive runs saved at first base after he turned 36 years old. It took Pujols FIFTEEN YEARS to become a below-average fielder at first base. Jeter, on the other hand, recorded a negative defensive runs saved at shortstop in 2003, 2004, 2005, 2006, 2007, 2008, 2010, 2011, 2012, 2013, and 2014. The only reason there aren’t more years listed is because, as I said earlier, defensive runs saved wasn’t a measured statistic until 2003. However, Jeter also recorded a negative Total Field Runs Above Average at shortstop in 1995, 1996, 1997, 1999, 2000, 2001, and 2002." From the article I read

his career uzr is 63.1

As it is

@@thongsipper It's just wordplay to say he's overrated

@@thongsipper no, it means that Jeter is a top 100 player of all time, but many others are better and deserve his popularity

@@gianlucalogan1941 there's literally 2500 better players statistically but please, do continue to ride

@@LittleQueue nah he has pretty much the same stats as Barry Larkin offensively, the only difference is that Larkin played pre-steroid era and Jeter didn’t so the advanced comparisons favor Larkin, and they are both rightfully hall of famers

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Derek Jeter is a clown

The Yankees were a powerhouse largely because of jeter. They didn’t win for 18 years before he got there and they haven’t won since he left. He is the only HOF in that lineup, aside from an on the decline Tim Raines and Wade Boggs who was there only for the first championship.

Jeter was a great offensive player, no doubt, but defensively he was below average especially for a HOFer. This is a fact.

@@timmyg831 That is not a fact. That is revisionist history. Go back and watch some games from earlier in his career. He goes to the 2B side of SS to field balls, despite 20 something year old nerds who never saw him play and never played themselves saying that he had no range. He almost always played with bad second basemen earlier in his career. If you have two guys up the middle who can’t field, you don’t win. He was a solid SS who always rose to the occasion. Find me the games that the yanks lost due to Jeter’s defense.

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Not surprised. The MLB built him and showcased him as "the chosen one" the good looking angel child for the most popular team in baseball history. If he was an Oriole, a Blue Jay, a Royal, etc...he wouldve already been forgotten about and definitely would NOT have ANY gold gloves lol or world series, obviously

California fans are pretty fickle. Most would rather support popular teams than their home teams. Look at the NFL in LA

@@fantasyEXX I live in California, Been to a few both Angels and Dodgers game involving both Yankees and Red Sox, and I am sure homeboys from East LA or blonde Valley girls sure don’t look like New Yorkers or Bostonians.

@@fantasyEXX Exactly. Southern California is full transplants, people from other parts of the country who still support their hometown team. NFL is also different because L.A. didn’t have a football team of its own for twenty years. Now we have two, including one we didn’t ask for whose real fans are still down in San Diego.

oof

I think stealing on the job usually gets you fired lol

And you wouldn't be alone in this evaluation. Rivera had tools that made scouts drool. Absolutely massive, but unreached potential.

“Into Death Valley! It goes right over his glove! He missed it! But Ruben Rivera missed second base! Now he’s heading for third and they’re gonna throw him out by plenty, but the throw to third is botched! Now he’s heading home! It’s a loose ball on the infield. And he’s out by five feet at the plate. And that was the worst baserunning in the history of the game!”

Ahh...and that's what makes baseball different. It's only sport where you can take a kid with very good skill and bad fundamentals over someone with great skill and great fundamentals because the former is a HOFer and the other isn't. The latter hit his ceiling. Its billy beane and Lenny Dykstra from moneyball. More often than not, the competition change between AAA and majors is something guys who have been great in HS can't deal with. Jeff franceour comes to mind.

It’s such a bizarre chapter in baseball history I love it

So is costing ur team 162 runs.

Yeah but you can have a player that helps morale and spirit and is still a game changer for their team on the field - look at basically any Cardinals star in franchise history.

@@darrylbunch6929 you act like he’s the only person to do that

@@DrezdenJames he literally is

@@mambaforever3486 stfu he wasn’t bruh search it up wym😭😭

Agree. He belongs in Cooperstown, but there’s no way he was the best fielding SS in the AL for 5 straight years, or 7 of 10. It just shows how much inertia plays into GG voting.

The gold glove became meaningless in 1999 after Rafael Palmeiro won it for first base while only starting 25 games at first.

He was a very good defensive SS. But, then his natural transition to 3B got blocked and he stayed at SS way too long. Add that to his loss in arm strength after the shoulder injury, he was never the same. Prior to the shoulder injury he was a great SS. The defensive metrics are frankly BS (I am a data analyst in another industry). Don't believe me? Figure out how similar metrics, or even the same "named" metric from different sources (e.g. fangraph vs baseball reference) can call the same player great and terrible at the same time. There is a lot more work to do to be able to rely on defensive metrics. And to go back and apply those metrics to players that played before the metric was in place is even sillier.

@@MCWormGuy Fair enough, there's a ton of noise in defensive metrics. One metric can be high on a guy while another can be lukewarm. But in Jeter's case? You get consensus that he's not so good. The culprit seems to be lack of range, which traditional stats like range factor seem to agree with. Grantland had a terrific longform piece on Jeter that I think explains things well.

@@mrmacross I understand your perspective, but saying Jeter had a lack of range screams recency bias, and is already accounted for. Yes, I agree, he frankly had terrible range the last few years. But his range was not terrible his entire career. For at least the first 10 years of his career (age 20 to 30) he had above average range, especially to his right. If he was allowed to transition, as virtually every other SS in history has had to do, especially of his physical profile, he would be thought of as a good defensive SS.

What did you like about him

I think that’s a really important part of who he was, when you look around the league and see how many shortstops want to wear #2, it’s easy to see the inspiration he had on so many young fans. Absolutely class act

Jeter is a legend and one of the best hitters of his generation.

@@ianrotheroe2540 shoot, their bitter rival’s shortstop (Boegaerts) wears #2 because of Jeter

He's an excellent contact hitter who was an ideal face of the franchise.

But giambi was very clearly safe

@@NoName-fo7mz Maybe if he slid,but thanks to him running his foot was elevated over the plate when tagged OUT

Pretty sure on that play he was supposed to be covering second.

@@robertledbetter3799 he was there, but he absolutely dashed over

Giambi's safe if he slides, and still out if the throw is direct to home. Time lost in the transition.

Fax. I always get annoyed when I see him

The guy is probably beyond insufferable

Marlins Man seems like a person that is detached from reality. No one actually cares about him that doesn't know him. Just kind of a gimmicky guy where u go, "Oh hey its that guy with the orange jersey."

You're commentating on youtube. you need to evaluate a few things.

@@jonathansykes4986 Marlins man burner

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I mean isnt that the goal. Not letting the fans down.

Other players have had opportunities like Jeter…but few ever get in the same level. Jeter had the intangibles and skill to make the most of every opportunity he got.

@@greggately5782 except for on DEFENSE

@@ShowtimeDesignz did you see me say anything about his defense? Though, Jeter does hold some of the best highlights of all time on DEFENSE. Just search ‘Jeter’s best defensive plays’, I don’t even need to say what they are.

Except Ozzie Smith was elite of the elite as a defender. Jeter was not on an equivalent level as a hitter.

@@AidanCulverREAL really? How many players have more hits than Jeter?

@@goblinsarereal4954 how many players played as long as Jeter? Most guys would have been benched way earlier

@@AidanCulverREAL right before he hurt his leg in the playoffs against the tigers he was on pace to breaking Pete roses hit record

Nahhh jeter was not an elite hitter. Great hitter but not elite look at his obp% and slg%.

You are outta your mind.. It’s not all about stats

@@mikereidjr4955 lol

@@mikereidjr4955 But it pretty much is all about the stats, if the stats perfectly reflect reality. We are not there yet, but much closer than we used to be. Baseball is all about 2 things: creating runs and preventing runs. You cannot win any other way. And we can pretty accurately determine how much a player does of each of those 2 things.

He was very sure handed. As much as anyone. He gave everything he had. He was like a Pete rose. Winner. Clutch. Charged the slow roller very well. Caught balls over his his very well. Didn't have good range. But let's be honest, a lot of jealous haters out there. Most Yankee fans liked him at short. I think the fans opinion means a lot.

Dude he had 8 seasons of 200+ hits and another four with 188+ hits. All time post season hits leader. Number 10 all time for life time average by a right handed batter after ww2. Number 6 in ALL TIME hits. He hit .481 in the All Star game. In what world is he not starting on the all star team? His last year was maybe the only year he made the team with sub par stats and he had 2 hits in that game. Sure they blew up his stature some but not nearly as much as you would like to pretend. Also, he played his entire career in NY. have seen how many players can't handle playing in NY in any sport? And this dude thrived here.

A Rod def gave it some effort...Jeter was like nah...f this dude haha. Awkward af but still funny to watch

In Jeter's defense, Rodriguez is the fakest person in baseball.

do you guys work for a-roids pr firm?

@@sandfish4 How did you know

@@kingtacogod3327 because no-one actually likes a-roid- he pays for friends lol

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Does it even matter if it was fair or not? He got the out and that's that.

So one great play makes him a great defender?

@@alwillk no but if it's the most important play of your career, you could be marketed as a great defender (a lot of sports are like that)

So in other words, he didn't NEED to dive into the stands at all. Showmanship.

Absolutely this. As a mariners fan it was absolutely frustrating to watch Edgar Martinez have to wait 10 years to make it to the HOF because he played DH, even though they named an award after him, only for Ortiz to make it first ballot

As an O's fan, I weep whenever the O's are mentioned because it's never good.

@@FrederickFokker I apologize for that. Ok, how about the As? Can’t offend too many As fans, because there are so few.

Lol copium.

0% chance? 3000 hits anyone? What is it with you numbnuts on this planet? Cal Ripken was first ballot HOFer and didn't he play for the Orioles? The stupidity is mind-boggling. But really it's bias and hate for the Yankees and it blinds your common sense

I’m a diehard Red Sox fan. I’ve got TONS of respect for Jeter. And that’s saying a lot because generally I don’t have respect for a Yankee. Derek deserved to be an icon, regardless of his defense. Only other player that’s earned my respect like Jeter did is Aaron Judge. I also like Jeter because he beefed with A-rod lmao. I hope you enjoy this season bro

@@Ok-dm1ck ya all I did was look at his stats, career .310 hitter with 3500 hits. Done. Easy. No debate. Defensively, he had an above average fielding percentage. That's good enough for me.

@@toms8483 nah he’s not a good enough defender, but hell yeah he could hit. -162 DRS is all you have to look at for defense

@@Ok-dm1ck lol a stats only guy

@@user-nj1zu2nf1x the guy above him literally looked at the stats and said stats only 😂😂 but because the second guy used stats you didn’t like you come at him for it

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Thanks for bringing that up. When I heard that in the video I shook my head. Nothing to do with a scandal, just a job greeting people at a casino after retiring. Kuhn was an idiot.

Reinstated them after they quit their casino jobs. The real hypocrisy comes from their deals with FanDuel and DraftKings.

@@billm5462 How about saying Kuhn was right to ban them?

​@@williegordon9188 He wasn't right, like I said he was an idiot. They weren't playing baseball, they were retired and should be able to take any job they want.

he didnt have more errors..they say they track how an error cost the team.

@@markfrost2707 It wasn't that he made more eras. He was very surehanded. It was his range that came into question. Especially later in his career.

I notice you don't mention the 5 rings he has. Isn't that what its all about?

@@Abdul-qe9qq until a player in any team sport can win "a ring" on their own--they have little impression on me. How many does Barkley have? or, say, SteveNash....There are several Atlanta Braves who only have one ring and were the most dominant player of the time...How many rings does Hank Aaron have?? Pete Rose only has two with that FAMOUS Big Red Machine he played on and he was one of the greatest hitters of all time. ...and I could name many others as examples. The ring count thing is a childish argument...conversely--there are players with a grip of rings who people cant even name. Do, I really need to explain this? So, NO--the amount of rings is what it's all about when sizing up a player's career....again Charles Barkley perfect example..or Chipper Jones-what does he have? One, I think?? anywayssss

@@markfrost2707 championships and titles are the Crown Jewels in any sport. Titles are why we participate in sport. All of those players you named are great players in their own right. However, if you ask any one of them, who among them would not prefer to have “ champion” added to their résumé? The Boston Celtics record for most championship rings are still making an impression as arguably the greatest teams ever in the nba. Bottom line, Derek J was a difference maker on those Yankee teams.

That just proves that advanced metrics are a joke

@@jcpg9592 ?? No if anything it proves how unbiased they are and how helpful to the game advanced stats can be

@@jdstevens3478 Helpful to the game? Like making major leaguers think that baseball is enjoyable if you do nothing but take walks and strike out for 5 hours straight, never stealing, bunting or doing anything that might be slightly enjoyable to watch? Right, very helpful

@@liamhohertz4807 actually they do. The "metrics" now tell teams, by the magic powers, that it is a waste to bunt and steal and to try to make contact, so taking pitches right down the middle and then striking out is the best option. The Dead ball Era was more fun than this rancid trash

@@jcpg9592 watching teams lose and give away outs bunting or getting caught stealing isn't super enjoyable either

I wonder if he watched this video and just said "that's it, I'm out."

This is the video that finished him off.

The prick came in ruined our hope our stadium our radio announcers and our uniforms and left.

Damage already done

One of the best Jeter posts I’ve seen. Thank you.

And I’ve never met a baseball fan who knew the difference between there, their, and they’re.

@@j.g.mcbell9494 your lying to you’reself

@@j.g.mcbell9494 aw he hurt your feelings?

I mean his OPS was still pretty decent for someone who wasn’t a power hitter

that first sentence couldn't be anymore true.

A-Rod is worse he cheated wore baggy uniforms my bro in law loved Jeter n NY I told him 15 years ago A-Rod is hiding something under that baggy uniform

@@AristaRockLord A Rod was twice the shortstop jeter was and played half of his career there.

@@Hacksaw_HIM_Thuggin AROD was way better they almost could have had the same life

A-Fake, that’s one guy that won’t be going to Cooperstown.

OVO Bret Hart because he was on roids

Ya I remember those Miggy and Dontrell Willis Marlins and was watching live when that Cubs fan tried to catch that ball lol

He didn’t make much on a 4% stake bud 😂 y’all always act like they own the whole thing being a name on the board

Count purchase price and what he got for his 4% it’s like he was never even there on community service he profited 0 bud it’s not hard to see.

4% of the initial purchase price is 48 million guess what they gave him to leave? 48 million. If he got 4% profit share he got 4% of roughly 110 million that’s what ownership is bringing home roughly for a poor team like that with no real contracts

@@one7deep7savage7those guys were the World Series team and it was Steve Bartman the “bartman” ball was blown up finally 😂

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He wasn't the best ss on his team.

@@armandofajardo4965 let’s not forget that he wasn’t on steroids like most other ppl...

It just seems like he was. He came up big in some famous moments but that’s the thing, it’s not many. Since they’re such famous plays they’re played over and over which makes it seem more common.

How many runs did New York allow on balls that a good shortstop fields, but Jeter couldn't even touch?

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I unsubscribed after this video, Derek Jeter is the most underrated baseball player of all time. Played SS until he was 40 that will never be done again, played half of his career before analytics were a thing. Did everything in his power to win whether it was April or November. He’s your favorite shortstops favorite shortstop and anyone that slanders him should be thrown in prison

@@J__D__S Derek jeter sucks and so do you

Same here bud

You rock! You earned your success!!

Obviously not true but a funny post nonetheless.

Ok…@@TheGodYouWishYouKnew

@@Etm2187 I don't know Cal Ripken got this same treatment though and for the 2nd half of his chasing Lou Gehrig (or at least the last 3rd) he wasn't really that great a player but he had the same Jeter treatment. I don't think people realize how those iconic plays seep into the minds of fans and harden a single idea for them. Jeter made that one play against the A's and that iconic jump through and I had one of the most brilliant co-workers who was a virtual God when it came to IT and systems, and just an unbelievably reasonable guy, but if you tried to argue that Jeter was not a great defender, he would lose his mind. We used to love teasing him by saying "we didn't realize his name was Derek, I thought his first name was Past a Diving"

Yeah those 3400 hits would make him invisible. If your the number 6 all time in hits, your more than a GOOD player. Hmm, ever hear of someone called Kirby Puckett or Rod Carew? They played for the Twins all the way up in Minnesota. Yet if your a baseball fan you certainly heard of them. Hmm, Jim Thome in Cleveland. Robin Yount, Paul Monitor. Milwaukee. Just love it when people say stupid things without any thought to try and prove their point.

In this scenario does he also collect 3000 hits. Because that's not an easy thing to do and people would take notice of it

@@angelcanez4426 Just a bunch of haters that want to accentuate the bad and negate the good.

Houston Astros passed on him in the draft. I am sure if he would’ve been drafted by then. Both Jeter and The Astros would’ve been in a totally different place.

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Dude banged so many girls. LOL

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But he was a garbage ss, no one is saying he's good

You can say he would've been better without the NY press hounding him

@@Shinobi33 Some people are able to deal with that just fine. The point is, he had the priciest & most juiced teammates around, & wouldnt have won anything if he were anywhere else. He wasnt even the best SS on his own team lmfao hes a slap hitter whos terrible at the position he played

@@akimboslice9867 he's wasn't a slap hitter. He also he had years when he didn't play with other stars. And when he did he was still the best player on sone of those teams

@@Shinobi33 just not true. He always played with stars and was rarely the best player on his own team.

I wouldn’t even say Rivera was a leader. They’re locker room leaders were Pauly O, Tino, Jorge, and CC.

Lol he had a World Series MVP and is called Mr November what are you talking about.

This is a joke right?

@@curtisgraham6290 He wasn't *that* impactful in the postseason, dude. He's not David Ortiz.

How disrespectful of you to not mention Bernie Williams

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He’s a pretty good base hitter but his defense is pretty lousy

​...Wrong.

@@dumisatonyjohnson81455 championships pal

@Fries As a Atlanta native that pays attention to the division I thought Miami outpaced expectations almost every season Jeter was CEO. Miami has no fanbase and the owners won’t spend. It was always gonna be a long haul to build a winning structure and coming from the big money Yanks I don’t think Jeter wanted to deal with that lack of cash.

Who cares about Jeter stepping down as CEO of the Marlins like that don't take away from his baseball actual skill...like some of ya is the reason why he don't talk to media now...dumb ass blogs 😒‼️

Jeter was a clutch and consistent batter and a great leader, but his defense at SS was ass, he had no range and a weak arm, he should’ve played 2nd.

Doesn't change the fact he should never have played short stop in the mlb.

You’ll never convince haters and the “muh stats” people, even though his stats are awesome. Those defensive advanced metrics are straight made up bs.

Hasn’t this channel already blown up? I mean, only a year and a half ago there was a few thousand subscribers, mostly from the first Greinke video Now he’s got literally a hundred times that many

Your son is just like him! Congrats.

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This guy overstates everything he's really not that good he's the tabloid version of video essays about sports.

I thought that same thing Jeter is one of the best in MLB he always came through is the biggest game's.

@@josephroessler3061 statistics are incredibly over rated as a way to determine a players ability on the field.

@goblins are real They aren't *everything*, but they are very accurate as a rule. I mean an Offensive WAR of 90+ is inner circle HOF level. The fact that even with his terrible defense (and it was terrible, every single defensive stat agrees he was awful, as does almost any non-yankees scout/pundit), he still managed a WAR better than the majority of HOF inductees is testament to just how ridiculous his offensive ability was

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bengal sighting

He also implied it's obvious he is really effing overrated

@@metalmythology6282 defensively fosho. But I’d say he’s not anymore, since everyone seems to realize he’s overrated lol.

@@metalmythology6282 So you don't think its obvious? Wild.

@@diddlez2 Translate this to English please

@@metalmythology6282 How thick is your skull?

99% sure it was Bob Costas

Even if you don’t like his stats, you don’t think he’s first ballot? Lol not really a hero nor do they even matter in the grand scheme

Shit take.

Not a first ballot HOFer with over 3400 hits? Whoever thinks that is a hater or just an idiot.

Not voting for a clear HOFer makes one a hero? That's idiotic. You Jeter haters will say ANYTHING.

Exactly. Hell he might have only lasted 8 years if he came up with the pads

Thank you! If it wasn't for networks like YES and Fox...they gave him the lime light on a national level

I've said the nearly the same thing for years, Maybe not "Derek who", but "Derek Good player"

if he spent his career with the royals or padres he'd a been mr royal or mr padre. sorry george and tony.

you probably don't know who george brett or tony gwynn are do you? lol

That NYC propaganda got me and you both then. This was eye opening, but still doesn’t take away from the way we viewed him. But damn, those stats are brutal and his after baseball career too ha

Because he defense was not the best? Deese is why he will forever be your man? 🤔

@@clayb8508 NYC propaganda?😂😂😂🤡🤡🤡

@@clayb8508What stats are brutal? The made up DRS that doesn’t take into account the first 7 years of his career? You know a SS can’t “give up” a run, right?

Bunch of butthurt losers is whyv

You mean a bunch of jealous perennial losers? Who gives a fuck what they think?

You sound insane comparing Rafael Furcal to Derek Jeter and saying jeter is just ESPN hype. He had 3,500 hits and was clutch AF.

@@TheGodYouWishYouKnew I'm comparing their defense. Not the offense. I meant he was "just hype" defensively. You are hearing what u want to hear. Furcal is far superior defensively. My point is nobody knew it but everyone thought Jeter was good defensively and that is largely because of ESPN/NY market bias. All Furcals great Braves plays are lost because they rarely made ESPNs top 10 but roll a ball towards Jeter and he'll make the play look so hard it seems good. That said Rafael Furcal is better than you probably think. He was a wizard defensively with a cannon and incredibly fast baserunner who actually could hit quite well. Just always hurt after 30 or so. Arguably was on a HOF trajectory low-key, if he was as healthy as Jeter and played late into his 30s. But health is a skill. War/162 games...Jeter 4.2. Furcal 4.0. Very similar. Even as it is Furcal is valued approx right there with Dave Concepcion, Maury Wills, and Phil Rizzuto. Considered great players. Jeter had nearly twice as many at bats.

@@TheGodYouWishYouKnew Jeter also really wasn't as clutch as you think. He had so many opportunities is what it is. He is not near the top in any notable playoff categories, and even if he were it would be only counting stats because the Yankees always made playoffs.

@@AT-dx9pf Jeter was good defensively in his prime, not great. You wanted people to focus on Rafael Furcal, who wasn’t an all-timer in anything, when a legend was in his prime? Furcal was a criminal who got a sweetheart deal to play a playoff game. You’re telling me that I am hearing what I want to hear, meanwhile you’re calling Furcal a “wizard” and a HOF talent. Jeter wasn’t as clutch as I think. He was more clutch. Had clutch plays that I forgot about. You’re a hater.

If they left Arod at 3rd and put a Mini Cooper at SS and said "If you hit the Mini Cooper you're out" the Yankees would have been an even better team.

Duh.

If A-Rod could be clutch at any time aside from 2009 and could catch a pop fly; they would have been a better team. Jeter was never the reason when the yanks didn’t win. Never.

And that’s why he was a bad fielder

@@warlordofbritannia It’s very much embarrassing. Great player though (I guess).

Totally. Its not like he had a lot of deep hole plays where "eh that's tough and he was rushed", no no, he had a ton of cans of corn he let the ears hit the ground

But likeee.. He’s had 5000+ ground balls hit in his direction? (approx) there’s a lot of footage of him making errors, probably more than most people in his era..

@@ifheavenwashuman he was definitely a great player. Very overrated defensively. But I feel that everyone knows this now so it’s not true anymore (him being overrated). During his career for sure

I’m sorry for your loss brother. I’m glad this channel brings you peace, I love this community as well.

@@GhostofMcNabb i really appreciate the genuine condolences and from the short amount of time I've been apart of this community the majority of ppl are legitimately awesome. It's beautiful when you find something like this.

@@boogityhoo7452 this channel and the community have gotten me through hard times. I’m glad you have a healthy outlet, life’s taught me to never take the things however small that make you happy for granted.

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@@whoisthise5501 this is the worst shit i've heard in my life

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Most of them haven’t lived up to their hype/pay since leaving as well. Pretty important distinction to assess.

@@bobbyverdin7915 Um, Yelich won an MVP then finished 2nd in MVP voting the next year, Ozuna finished 6th in MVP voting in 2020, and Realmuto is a top 3 catcher in the league.

Jeter is the poster boy for Herpes

Exactly and he stepped down because they didn’t delivery on what they promised DJ. People always assume without researching. DJ wasn’t the greatest offensive SS player but he wasn’t the worst. He also made a lot of great plays as well especially when needed. He was a classy and charming guy. He never cheated and was a great player all around.

Marlins been doing that forever.... stockpiling cheap talent, rebuild, repeat

If this is the kind of stuff that's in the video that I'm not going to waste my time watching it. I watch the guys entire career this is just one of those situations where when everyone likes something it's cool to make a video hating on it

@@user-nj1zu2nf1x he goes into all the advanced defensive metrics that have been relied on in recent decades that show how he is by those metrics the worst defensive player/shortstop maybe ever and probably shouldn't have won any gold gloves, goes into how he got all star invites in years that his WAR was super low, including in the 2010s when WAR was still prominently used. His case is sound. However even when you account for all that, Jeter was still a great hitter who also made a lot of clutch defensive plays when it mattered most. What I always struggled to wrap my head around w the defense argument is that I watched him play every day too. And from the eye test, he seemed like a very solid defensive shortstop. He could leap and catch a line drive over his head. He could get to the ball in the hole and make the long jump throw. He could run out and catch pop ups in no man's land in shallow left center, he turned two just fine. His only weakness that I could see was on diving for and getting to balls grounded up the middle. Nobody who was a Yankee fan ever worried when a ball was hit to him that he might not make the play because we all thought he was a solid SS. I don't understand how those metrics say he is that bad on D. But data is data so idk whatever. It's a fair argument cause these are relevant stats now, but still a leader and a winner w good reason.

@@billny33 Regarding your last point.. I think the issue is that most SS are generally fantastic defenders, so Jeter being servicable or not making you worry already puts him way further below most of the other SS because the defensive bar is set very high especially at that premium defensive position. Many of those advanced metrics also take into account what the average on a position is and is calculating with that in mind.. so with the average SS being so good, your advanced metrics will look bad if you are "only" servicable

@@KanbaruS4n that is interesting and probably right. That would mean that just about any ss who wasn't unrealistically terrible would seem like a pretty good defensive player to most fans, myself included.

If you look up Ruben situation it literally a article in 2002 and how it was part of why he was released and it seems like it was during spring training which means he never was officially part of the team I assume and just on spring training also the team apparently voted him off the team also the other incident with jeter was in September of that season vs rays

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Bruh tf are you staying about Stafford lmao

@@fratrickmachomes5263 Stafford is one of my favorite players I always thought he was HOF material, but Detroit obviously held him back and probably wouldn’t get into the HOF if he stayed in Detroit. That’s coming from a lions fan, they would of been 2-14 every year if he didn’t play.

@@tonyromothehomo1 LOL

Jeter and Bernie Williams didn’t use steroids in an era when many players did.

You can’t even see dislikes

I’d argue Jeter’s bat at SS is worth more than Omar Vizquel’s glove

Wouldn't even have to make him a DH. Move him to third or second and his defense goes to about average.

@yossarian which is why I give A-Rod credit for not being a baby about it despite the fact that he should've been the SS till at least 09-10. If Jeter didn't have as much clout in the organization as he did, Rodriguez could've easily kept his spot.

Hey, gotta keep Omar as a women respecter a lot more than Jeter's.

@yossarian must've been the gift baskets

The roided-out, unhealthy moody Nomar who was traded in the middle of a pennant race? 😂.

@@TheGodYouWishYouKnew after he was traded he became useless, but beforehand was far better than Jeter ever was

HahahhahahhahahahhahahahhhahHhHahhhhHhahahahahahahahaahhahaaha. That’s a good one

Efficient enough to win 5 rings. That's the object, not stats.

Oh, I get it now. You're a Yankees hater like most of the MLB fanbase so you like seeing them lose.

How many championships did he cost them?

@@kingcassius2586 Like 6-7 World Series' if I'm being honest.

@@philithegamer8265 😄 Yeah.. "If I'm being honest" 🤤

I believe it

No, the Yankees could've won back to back WS at that time without Jeter. Do you remember their roster? It was loaded to win postseason; Bernie Williams, Andy Petite, David Cone, Tino Martinez, Mariano Rivera, Joe Torre, etc. guys that are so good underpressure. I'll say this again, they didn't need him...

5 for7 in his career as well .

@@philithegamer8265 I guess you forgot who they played against. The Braves were a superior team and it wasn't close. Facts

@@frostbyte9871 The Braves were 1-4 in the World Series in the '90s.

Edgar Martinez was more clutch than both of them

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