@@samusx2175 Then wouldn't it cost cents to make an emulator for these systems and have them transfer over the console OS and just sell roms? Nintendo is sorta doing this but it's behind a subscription. IMO you should just buy the games themselves, but I'd rather do that and have the next system support the emulator then transfer the games over. They are still making money just by keeping the games available of retro games are so desirable.
@@Yellowredstone because then they can make more money off sales of remakes/remasters/collections of old games which they can "reasonably" price higher than a simple port which would get major flak for being priced high.
Yeah the big problem here is just greed. There's enough retro games at this point they could be selling them itunes style for $.99 and probably make plenty of money. But that would only point out how over priced games are getting especially digitally where supply costs are super low. They usually want at least $5+ for a rom. They now want games to be $70 now for a digital download or a disk that's worthless because it's also just an unlock key for a digital download.
I've been into the DKOldies drama for quite a bit after I saw the prices back in June, but it was always covered by more smaller sites. But now that Muta's covering it, this'll make more people aware of them. Take this drama as a reminder to support your local game stores.
@@Sonicfoxtrot They can, that's why I said a good one that tries to keep fair pricing and pour effort into making a loyal community. But you're partly right, LGS can scalp and rip off too. Also; Pirate, don't steal :)
Actually refurbished does not mean repaired - refurbished means to brighten or freshen up. So literally blowing compressed air in the fans can be considered refurbished. Refurbished has never meant what most think it means, which is remanufactured. A refurbished product is rarely taken apart and cleaned in the manner of which people think they are. Cell phone carrier insurance companies have been under fire for years for the same thing. Just because internet trolls don't know the definition, does not mean that DKoldies is some how scamming you. Their prices suck sure, I don't find Joey particularly humorous, but they are a business. Just because you can find that same product on ebay from someone with no overhead and no warranty doesn't mean that the retail price is wrong. People go to a retailer because they 1) get the 1 year warranty 2) they don't worry about getting their credit card stolen or getting scammed out of money with no product.
@@jonnadler628 if you actually did your research more into their scummy tactics you wouldn’t be defending them. There’s been consoles untouched by them with dust and rust inside the consoles. Is that freshened up? You said so yourself that refurbished means to. It is a scam.. charging people for a premium price to get untouched consoles. Then on top of that putting a warranty sticker on it and saying if you remove it you void the warranty, which is illegal in the United States by the way. They don’t want you opening the consoles because they know they haven’t done anything to them. And that’s just the tip of the iceberg.
I love that copyright disclaimer in the beginning considering how well known DkOldies has made it known that they will do anything to hide/avoid criticism
@@ByrneTheWorld10 I know that but get a damn hint. DkOldies has been removing comments criticizing them and if they got a big head about it, they could copy right strike someone’s video as retaliation for criticizing them and they could abuse RU-vid’s broken striking system.
@@ByrneTheWorld10 sheep even with all the proof you have been brainwashed to believe some you dont even know that will go out of their way to steal your money and lie to your face
@Mor MacFey oh shoot I never knew Kate had so much control over the financial side. As far as I've seen Scott and Drew will have Taran adjust prices, cause Ash isn't in charge of SYG anymore... tbh I'm not sure what he does now. Taran took it over a few months ago
@Mor MacFey to be fair I was skimming the whole long book that was describing Drews life and didnt even notice Kates title on the bottom so thats my bad, I wasn't trying to be ignorant haha. I've never heard anything about Drews wife in the time I've worked there, ever
Glad someone said it. Bought and Atari 2600 that was rusted from inside and overpaid for the console, not to mention it had plenty of scratches. Reminder this was back in 2018, and was my first and last purchase. Support your local flea markets and shops everybody. Edit: The original second controller was broken, so they sent me a second broken third party cheap controller!
@@AnarickTheDevil sucks for you. People like you are who they market to - I’m not trying to be a jerk buts a fact. I luckily have many end hand stores that I support and will never make a purchase from DKOldies after seeing this video.
Damn you got unlucky, I paid $10 for an Atari 2600 and 8 games and a couple controllers (no power cord I had to buy it separately for like $10.) at a flea market and it probably came out of the dudes attic. It’s worked beautifully and still works just fine today.
@@mattelgersma4998 that probably is autocorrect actually lmao. Autocorrect always tries to turn "Companies" into "Company's" for me and other such odd quirks.
@@mattelgersma4998 I do. But when I'm on Utube I just choose to leave it wrong to annoy people who have have nothing better to do than clench their rectum sticks over other people's spelling.
I stopped collecting in 2016 because Retro Gaming became more popular and money ruined it. Money ruins all of my fucking hobbies :/ i always have the shittiest luck of getting into hobbies before they get popular, then they always blow up and everything gets hella expensive, inaccessible, and lots of new people enter the community just to make a buck. Maybe that's part of the reason why my hobbies these days are things like reading, linux, programming, free open source software, and other things that are resistant to being ruined because of a high barrier of entry and low potential for monetization xD
the worst part about the Wii repair, is that they only tested super smash bros brawl. the wii has 2 lasers. and Brawl is a dual-layered disc; an issue people saw on release was that some couldn't run the game because the laser might have decalibrated over time (?). they didn't even test gamecube games to see if those work.
I honestly wouldn’t care less if my collection dropped in price by a crazy amount, I just want to be able to collect the classic games again at a fair price... Edit: I’m honestly so happy to see that people feel the same way! Hopefully soon enough things will settle down and we can go back to collecting at an affordable price! 🙂
This. I get games and old hardware because it's fun to me, them being worth 5k or $5 doesn't matter to me. I've been buying a whole lot less in recent years when the prices have skyrocket. I don't even think it's people who actually play games who buy these games, especially that graded crap.
@@morbidgull8922i think it also depends on accessibility. Alot of retro ganes have value because you cant emulate or buy them on modern consoles. If people can rebuy them now they wont bother buying an overpriced old disc/cartridge and the related hardware to run and setup
I've been in the dkoldies drama since May 2022 and I'm one of the first to criticize them but I'm glad finally people like Muta are exposing them to more people.
I can’t believe that I actually used to defend DKOldies, excusing their markups for what I thought are quality products that are actually refurbished properly. But I was just too damn gullible to their videos.
This has been my favorite ReviewTechUSA arc for awhile, and I'm so glad to see others get in on it. And it's still going, thanks to continued incompetence by DKoldies! Seriously, the PS2 that Richie got from them was falling apart. Cracked controller ports and a disc drive that's clearly misaligned, all for $260!
Facts, I had a a local gamestore by me a few years ago and a fat ps2 was only $45 but another rival store it was $120, the 45 one was in better condition too needless to say I went with that one
Yeah that was absolutely insane. I'm glad he went the route ordering from an address that they couldn't pin down was him so they wouldn't give him a good console so he wouldn't bitch. What he got is what the average person gets
My same thought. It's Donkey Kong! The colors and the way the D and K are tilted are very similar. Unless his name is Dave Krasinski or something like that.
At our hockshop in town I saw a heartgold version in box for $550 or so in canadian and someone eventually bought it after it sitting on the shelf for half a year.
Dk oldies and video game scalpers remind me of sneaker stores and resellers. Lately there’s been multiple big sneaker stores that have been shady af stealing money from customers and doing an NFT rug pull.
I used to be sneaker head a few years ago, around 2016 scalpers ruined everything by overpricing every shoe release to a point people stop buying from them or stop buying shoes all together and I’m one of those people.
I've been in the dkoldies drama since May 2022 and I'm one of the first to criticize them but I'm glad finally people like Muta are exposing them to more people.
Thank you for sharing from a different perspective showing what has happened in other markets! No really, it helps show that's exactly where this type of business leads.
@@MalikATL exaclty true some dunks I wanted were being resold for 300$ after release and for those sneakers I thought I was very worth it, but the very next week when I got paid and went to buy them they were being sold FOR 1100$
There's other sources of content that aren't supporting this lying, manipulative business. Even by subbing or watching their content you're helping this company. Might as well shop with them at that point lol.
Love the fact that you also know magic erasers are indeed just high grit sandpaper😂😂 Honestly didnt think DKO could get any worse from everything I’ve heard but MAGIC ERASING THE GAMECUBE???? THAT SHIT HURT DEEP
Me too! I’ve been asking (by asking I mean spamming in his twitch chat lol) moist critikal to do it for the last month. Glad to see someone that has this size of audience cover them.
Bigger youtubers like Muta covering this drama will only mean more and more will see how much of a scam they are, they are eventually going to get smacked with some sort of class action lawsuit.
If only they were doing something illegal. They aren't despite how much you scream about it. There is ZERO legal definition for what refurbishing means, nor is it illegal to over-charge for a old game console. If something arrives broken, and they refund or replace it, again they are not breaking any laws.
@@Ryan_DeWitt Not a lawyer but if it's somewhere in writing promising a refurbished product then you can start there. I was promised this, a fully working product that was refurbished. Now what is refurbished mean? It means to be made new by repairing, cleaning and painting new paint on the product. With the images promised on the website, what I got in the mail can be a good starting point. Again not a lawyer
Damn really I order something never received it not from dkoldies. To this day I don't know what happened to it they said they'd send it but I don't know if the post office made a mistake. I had to go to many jumps before they give me a refund.
How??? May have been months ago, but you oughta follow-up on it if you may. They probably having an influx of bullshit on their customer service, but 400 dollars on some overpriced/noustalgic gamecube stuff should not be neglected-upon.
I used to be friends with someone who was obsessed with retro gaming. Most of his paychecks would be spent on buying up these old systems and games. Used to be in that racket too, until I realized how much price gouging goes into this market. Nowadays I either emulate or get a legacy edition.
My heart breaks every time I think of the time I sold a box with 2 N64’s an original Nintendo and a PlayStation 1 that I found in my dad’s storage when I was 13 for $60 for all of it. I was sitting on a goldmine💔
I remember back in 2005 GameStop (I think it was still EB Games at the time) was selling used N64’s with a controller for $25 bucks! I’m glad I got one then even though I have intention of ever selling it.
I fear so many of us sell our systems and games when we're young, I sold my Gamecube and Gameboys with dozens of games for $100... thankfully I got into collecting retro games and re-acquired everything a number of years ago before the market really took off. I'll resort to buying my kids consoles and games from them if they're dead set on selling them and it really gets to that point.
How were you supposed to know back then? Honestly that shit doesn't matter. I'm 47 and owned all kinds of systems and games that got lost to time. Wish I still owned them not because all if a sudden they are worth more but because it would be cool to me to play some old games. Oh well, too bad so sad for me. What I do know is that I get an itch every once in a while to play some games from my youth which has happened to me recently and all I know is that it's 2023 and I'm going to research the emulation scene and play all that shit whenever I want and have all the games I want (for the most part) My nostalgia is me playing the actual game not owning some old system taking up room, fuck that. Even 10-15 years ago I remember saying to myself, I want a library of all the games from my youth across all kinds of systems on one machine. I didn't think once about buying old systems/games and I could have gotten all that shit for cheap but I didn't care then and I don't care now. That's the best way to look at it.
Can't thank you enough for covering this DKOldies scandal. They have been doing this for years but was only covered by channels in the few thousand sub count but your the biggest one that has covered it so way more people are aware of them.
Just a note: Sellers on eBay don't choose international shipping. As someone who frequently shops in the UK market as a US citizen (context: british style model railways), the listings for *all* items from the UK will be 40-50. If you're having issues with finding cheap shipping, try switching over to that listing's native country, eBay even lists the country of origin for them.
What do you mean they don't refurbish their consoles? They posted a video not too long ago on their Facebook page where they were refurbishing consoles
@nathanielwilcox7294 There's RU-vidrs who are posting the consoles they bought from DKOldies and lemme tell you... They do a bad job at refurbishing their consoles, they aren't that clean and aren't even repaired well sometimes. Maybe for others they got a clean working console, but that doesn't mean their actually refurbishing every console
I found the youtube channel a few years back, but the only reason I never commited to buying from them WAS the pricing, and they weren’t clear on their refurbishing process. I didn’t know to what extent/how badly they price gouged until now, but even without insider knowledge, I got a weird feeling initially.
Every game store near me pretty much looks up ebay and sets their price point based on that. Local mom and pop shops are already starting to overcharge and retro gaming is turning toxic
I bought a SNES off them years ago. But it was just the shell with nothing inside. I sent them an email and there response what literally " Not our Problem" what absolute pricks!!
@Mor MacFey absolutely and they didn't even care. Laughed at me basically 😢 I flagged them because it was on FB and let FB know. But in the end nothing happened.
@@benhurbenstiller yeah I live in Australia and I guess it just wasn't worth the hassle. I put it down to getting scammed and left it at that. But in reality I should have done more. I guess lesson learnt 😥
I worked in QA for a peripherals manufacturer (you've heard of it). We used to follow an acronym - AGAN (pronounced "again"). It means As Good As New. A product was not considered "refurbished" until it met this standard. Means it has to visually look passable as new. It has to pass every benchmark a new product would. Refurb is half a step below open-box, plus it's certified.
The western console market prices is getting more ridiculous since the retro game resurgence, I’ve just been getting old consoles from Japan for fair or even cheaper prices even with shipping and import taxes
I actually did a price comparison with them and eBay, with my items being a DS lite and Pokémon emerald, soul silver, and platinum. Dkoldies was selling those 4 items for over $700 total(note that all of them were “refurbished “), while eBay was only around $200 in good conditions for all 4 along with finding a complete box set of soul silver for 120 or so in a bidding auction compared to a “refurbished” soul silver for 220. Idk why people even buy from them in the first place, there are way better places to buy like eBay or if you’re lucky a retro game store like the exchange
Please spend $200 for a good condition CIB soul silver, a DS, Pokémon emerald, and platinum. Let me know how many of them are fake. Hint: they’re all fake
@Burger Pants I never said nor mentioned 80, i clearly said I found on eBay all of those for around $200 total plus you can find those games for less than 100, you just don’t know where. Also please read over my comment ik it’s a lot to take in
DKOldies and similar businesses shouldn't exist considering some local repair/electrical shops have actual professionals that can repair consoles properly. You know, qualified Electricians? Cheaper too infact. Asking DKOldies to repair and refurbish your console is like asking Mr. Bean to fix your console. I'm glad more and more people are calling out these retro/nostalgia scammers exploiting and ruining retro gaming for a quick buck. Now if we can see more people call out certain RU-vidrs who e-beg/scam for tens of thousands of dollars while intentionally trying to inflate game prices with their videos, then that would be fantastic.
I think it's a scam. I hate how overpriced it is. The fact that you have to pay extra for the box and the manual to avoid damaging the cartridge or disc and so you can learn the controls
Boxed copies with manuals are always more expensive than loose carts simply because they're more rare. It's not a thing DKOldies invented. From what I've seen they pack the stuff well enough to avoid shipping damage. Also cmon, you don't need a manual for the vast majority of games, and you can always find it online.
As someone who actually repairs consoles to resell I really hate this kind of thing, not just because of them scamming people but also the fact it's come at the expense of everyone who does anything like this getting a bad name because of sellers like them
I want to trust stores like DKOldies because it really sucks dealing with assholes on ebay. I've bought games where they show the correct stuff in their product listing, then switch out the disc (either by mistake or malice) and I don't get what I paid for, meanwhile the seller insists I'm the one trying to scam them. I hate interactions like that so much. I'm willing to pay a markup at businesses where I know I'll get what I pay for and if I don't, will have a good customer service team
I’ve bought quite a few broken items from them to repair and resell. But I have to say, that there were several orders that were pretty ridiculous. It was obvious that they removed parts from the SNESs and Gameboys and listed them as “not working for parts” but would lead you to believe that all the parts were still there, it just doesn’t turn on. 😅
Reminds me of the 360 days when me and my friends would buy red-ring-of-death consoles and just change the thermal paste. Buy a console for fifty bucks, flip it for one fifty for ten minutes work. This sounds about as professional as we were.
Tbh I do think they're malicious in intent. Even if they did go into this ignorant, so many people have criticized them that they should know what is expected of them at this point. Not only that but they blatantly delete comments that call them out.
@Mor MacFey from what I see they just send it out as is and if there's complaints they rely on their warranty system to address them. Which is scummy because then you have to wait even longer to get a functioning console.
I will never get over the fact that DKOldies charged Mario Kart Wii for such a ridiculous price. The markup on Nintendo games/consoles by these scalpers is insane.
I remember being at a convention, found a collector's edition of Demon's Souls Asked the dude how much it was. He took out his phone and looked up ebay listings. Ive seen sellers for used goods with excel printouts with basically ebay prices but it implies there's a system or organization. At least that was more acceptable than "uhhh ebay sells it for 120$"
I remember a while ago I was gonna buy a copy of pokemon ruby for the gba. I really wanted a official copy as a collectable but didnt buy it because I couldn't justify dropping $100 on it. Thanks for this video so I know never to think of buying from them
Literally got my white Darth Vader PSP for $80 from a local shop and the thing has some very minimal surface scratches (no paint damage). Charging that much for a PSP is BS
I once searched DKOldies for a copy of Dragon Ball Z: Budokai Tenkaichi 3 for the PS2. A rare game, but they were asking $100 Canadian at the time and I just kinda went: HUH?! 100 BUCKS FOR A GAME RELEASED ON THE PS2? WHAT IS IT MADE OF GOLD? Worst part, it was used and didn't come with the case so I closed out that tab and shook my head. EDIT: Just checked the site again. IT'S NOW $ 299.99 CANADIAN FOR A PS2 COPY.
I found a BT3 disc at a local game shop in the bargain bin. Played it for a few months and sold it for $100 USD on ebay. So 100 for just the disc isn't actually unreasonable.
It hurts to see just how ridiculous older consoles are being price gouged these days. I personally own a game cube, first gen PS2, PS3, Gameboy Advance and Wii. I'm sure if I cleaned them up and refurbished them I could make a tidy profit, but I feel like I would only be contributing to the problem. That and Im quite attached to my consoles. They're nostalgic in that they remind me of periods of my life not only in gaming.
Just like CeX in the UK , i bought a “refurbished” xbox 360 for £200 no games , no box only cord and controller ,lasted me 3 months , i opened it up It was NASTY , dust everywhere, bug droppings, rust , the lot , CeX are the British DKoldies
Y’know, I’m quite disappointed that RU-vidrs only began to cover DKoldies after they became popular on TikTok. But I’m glad they’re finally being covered on and that their videos are our evidence against them. As soon as they started to market themselves, they immediately were hated by everyone. Before that, hardly anyone knew about them.
Personally, I've got a GameCube controller and a couple games from them that were completely fine and functional so I trust them, but they might be a hit or miss. I'm not a super consistent customer so I can't speak about it that well.
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Man, I’ve seen them get hate for price gouging and just thought “yeah it’s too high, but you know you’re getting a clean, working system” but dang, that was wrong
If you bought something that the seller claims it was refurbished, and it wasn't, that is a scam. You paid for a refurbished product and did not get that.
They are scams by not refurbishing their consoles, which they say they do. So many videos on youtube showing how dirty and parts that never been touched inside the systems.
Its very simple. Scammers and gougers like DK would no longer be in business if people did just a tad bit of research. both CL and Kijiji can routinely procure “normal” prices on any gaming system. Theres a couple great ebay stores out that ACTUALLY refurb old 2600s all the way to Xbox 360s at a reasonable cost. Funny how people just buy crap because someone has a YT channel.
not DKOldies but last year i bought a ps2 and 8 games from a local retro games store, prices were way too high and they didnt even clean the stuff they sold. my metal gear solid 3 case had what appeared to be vomit on the case AND dvd, ps2 cables were sticky and they put a blank white sticker ON THE COVER ART SLEEVE that i had to painstakingly peel off very carefully over the course of 15 minutes
Yeah the fact that they sell consoles wayyyy above market price, and claim that they’re “refurbished” whilst the inside of the console looks like the Saharan desert is absurd. They’ve also admitted that they only open consoles if there is something wrong with them lmaooo
You were the chosen one DKOldies! It was said that you would destroy the price gouging resellers, not join them. You were to bring balance to the retro gaming market, not leave it in darkness!
I got my own PS3s and PS4 for free, from people that said they didn't work. Took apart the one PS3, and the PS4, cleaned everything, and even replaced the thermal paste. The PS4 would shut down because of an overheating issue. After taking it apart and cleaning, and applying new thermal paste, it ran the entirety of Spider-Man with nothing more than a slight whine.
