Is Irohazaka Jump Really Faster?

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@tu-mq5oo 2 года назад

ちゃんと動画で比較することで改めてその違いを認識できました、ありがとうございます！なるほど追い抜きで使うなら「初見殺し」的な感じで使えるかも、て具合ですね。コーナー後半で内側から接近されて… 他の使い所としては追い抜き以外にも接近戦で先行している時にも使える？コーナー入り口で極端に減速して向き変えてそこからは加速だし、相手がジャンプしないならクリッピングポイント(？)は奥な分コーナーによっては再び加速&ブレーキを行う可能性があるため先行車は距離を稼げるかもあとはアーケード版のように極端な減速なくスピンターン的にジャンプした場合どうかというのも気になります。そういえばアーケード版でもジャンプしない方がレコードタイムが上っての、ありましたね…

@vrdbestsimulatorring7870 2 года назад

突然イン側のあのラインで来るなら、バトル相手としては「ミスりやがった危ねぇ！」ってなりますからね、咄嗟にブレーキや減速して接触回避行動を取る事も考えられますねw

@Fuck9oogleAskMe 2 года назад

Yes

@flowckey 2 года назад

@@Fuck9oogleAskMe Yeah

@mauriciorighetti670 2 года назад

@gsssgtr 2 года назад

これに追加で、車を4mジャンプさせるには時速何km/hで射出する必要があるか検証したら、完璧!

@brokeafengineerwannabe2071 2 года назад

It’s not about being the fastest. It’s about divebombing the inside and scaring the shit out of takumi.

@JMDrives 2 года назад

At this point, seeing a car hurdling towards your side for the first time will really make you step on the brakes.

@AthenaAutocross 2 года назад

Well, Takumi was already ahead, and So he'd only see in his rear mirror and be wondering why he now has a 3 second lead and never even saw him.

@captjuanco5766 2 года назад

he cant scare someone in front of him with that lmaoo

@ThBlueSalamander 2 года назад

lmao

@4storyboss 2 года назад

and teaching him how to destroy his suspension

@kylex71 2 года назад

Makes sense, you're basically dropping a ton of energy by stopping, then accelerating again while a normal approach allows you to carry that energy all the way through the corner if you don't overdo it.

@synchole 2 года назад

Indeed. Plus, any sideways force while dropping will...in the best case scenario, only mess up the alignment of at least 1 wheel. Worst case barrel roll to the finish line

@camsautomotive7899 2 года назад

there has to be a way to do like a reverse entry so you don't have to lose wheel speed at least right? cuz it's not good to come to a stop, but if you don't, you generally are going to jump into the guardrail instead of facing the way you need to go, right?

@synchole 2 года назад

@@camsautomotive7899 reverse entry itself is already hurtful to the rear axle according to a few veterans, and if the rear swings sideways while dropping will gonna hurt more parts tho...unfortunately.

@synchole 2 года назад

@@camsautomotive7899 Though, what I could think of a successable reverse entry drop might appear slower cuz u had to recover from the reverse to forward, and might possibly drop on Takumi's roof XD

@camsautomotive7899 2 года назад

@@synchole but in theory if you didn't have to take in the factor of crushing Takumi and ruining the car, if you basically drifted over the jump with a reverse entry wouldn't that be faster than the OG jump itself and maybe faster than taking the corner as expected? Or in the since not a reverse entry but basically taking the corner the same as you would but early, allowing for the same speed as taking the corner normaly but you are also cutting the track "jumping" in this case due to the original height drop in the anime. What do you think?

@KamiKitsuneVA 2 года назад

It’s more of a technique to throw off your opponent, hoping that they lose concentration and mess up. I’d love to see this style of video on the open gutter technique! Always wondered if it really does anything

@maxencec172 2 года назад

The gutter technique does affect timing if done properly on a car with appropriate suspensions settings. It is a very common thing used in rally racing, you can check out videos of rally Spain, Ypres Rally Belgium, rallye Monte-Carlo or rally germany, drivers are really often taking gutters and/or cutting corners through grass and ditches. They even do this on gravel and snow

@nakazatotakeshi4286 2 года назад

But what about kogashiwa literally did the jumps few more times and takumi reaction to that is literally; "at this rate, he'll get further and further away" Isn't that just proves in initial d the jumps is actually faster but irl it's not?

@JMDrives 2 года назад

@@nakazatotakeshi4286 it's faster if your opponent cornering normally rans out of rubber before finishing half the course. Takumi eventually copes up cuz Kogashiwa stressed the tires by doing the technique earlier. Tire preservation also goes along well here also.

@calebrickard3294 2 года назад

that one thing, but also it would be slower in a solo run because you dont have an opponent to block you, the point is to pass the opponent and throw them off so you wouldnt want to use it to beat the clock but you would to beat your opponent

@thischannelisback3153 2 года назад

thats what i thought, too. its more meant for overtaking

@Cichlid_Visuals 2 года назад

im actually impressed that it wasnt more slow in the time difference. that was actually reasonably quick for nearly coming to a stop and launching the car mid corner lol.

@jorenreyes6778 2 года назад

Two seconds is a lot in racing. Especially just from a single corner. That time compounded over the course is significant

@Cichlid_Visuals 2 года назад

@@jorenreyes6778 well its not really meant to be faster, its a distraction tactic. any oponent seeing this happen behind/next to them would be thrown off their game cosiderably. its an emergency tactic, meant to be pulled out in dire moments.

@user-kw4ff3zg9n 2 года назад

今までで1番完成度の高い地元走りの再現です！めっちゃ尊敬します！

@alstound 2 года назад

The jump could have been done without having to stop. If the driver can maintain momentum, then it’s as good as cutting the corner and is faster if executed perfectly. However, there are some catastrophic risks involved, like spinning the car altogether if you don’t land correctly, as well as destroying your suspension.

@synchole 2 года назад

Hear me out, an Irohazaka Jump section time record competition, who can make a faster section time in this corner with a jump

@sholohhh 2 года назад

@@synchole id love to see this

@Arafat.Abou-Chaker 2 года назад

@@synchole why even drive the whole snaky road when you can just drive straight down the mountain like Tom Dorito

@dandrawsit4915 2 года назад

@@Arafat.Abou-Chaker Roads?, Nah I got Family

@eckard9597 2 года назад

@@Arafat.Abou-Chaker I prefer to drive down the mountain like Golden boy

@tkurisuu 2 года назад

This is a kind of move that works better if you're in front because even though you lose time, you make the follower lose total gain by having more control of the area they can drive towards. It basically creates an "invisible barrier" in their mind that they cant just pass because if they do, the risks are far greater than the reward.

@gionniblood 2 года назад

So it's a brake check?

@tkurisuu 2 года назад

@@gionniblood In a way yes and no. It's kind of like purposely slowing down heavily on a corner but you do a sudden acceleration which keeps up the speed but not the momentum and time.

@FreshApplePie 2 года назад

yeah, I wanna see what happens when someone does this in the lead

@gionniblood 2 года назад

@@FreshApplePie Either a collision before the turn due to a sudden stop, or after when the leader rejoins the road. If the driver in second manages to avoid a collision they get a better exit and will likely overtake before the next turn.

@brunosouza3326 9 месяцев назад

That "invisible barrier" would in fact be very visible, and it would have about the same shape as your car...

@isikuraider 2 года назад

むぁああれは速さのためと言うより追い抜きのために相手の不意を着くための技ですからね…多分ラップタイムは考えてなさそう…

@ranhou1111CHAOS 2 года назад

その後調子乗って何回もかますから真似された上に追いつかれたんだよね……いろは坂版溝落とし使われたのもあるけど｡

@ktm6900 2 года назад

後方で１秒以上もロスしてたら驚いたところで追いつくどころか更に引き離されるだけw 漫画のネタでこじつけですよ。

@vrdbestsimulatorring7870 2 года назад

アニメを見返してみるとシフトロックののような描写からフェイントモーションの振りを無しでスライドさせて、そっからイン側に入った際にハチロクは明らか引いてますね。（マシン同士の接触回避の為にここでスピードを落としてると考える事も可能ですね。）アホな突っ込みが出来たとするなら僅かながら可能性はありそうですね。動揺を誘った攻撃と言ってもいいかなとは思えます。（漫画の連続ジャンプは厳しいと思えますね。）

@nhk471 2 года назад

ガムテープデスマッチで此れやって欲しいです！

@user-my2ue8uz4n 2 года назад

普通に走る相手より遅いんだから追い抜きできないじゃないですか？

@Nackan223 2 года назад

レースシムでここまで綺麗に"あの挙動"を再現できている動画を初めて見ましたすごい

@user-ts3vq8nl8o 2 года назад

カイ「掟破りの地元走りだッ！！！！」拓海「なにやってんだアイツ...?」

@chiuuuuuuuuuu 2 года назад

Beautiful video!! I am gonna play on this map next time!

@moteo_running 2 года назад

頭Dのトリビア！めっちゃリアルな検証で面白いです！ありがとうございます！！！

@ミスターステーション 2 года назад

思ってた5倍は遅くなってて吹いた。んで荷重移動が上手すぎるw んで比較時の編集好き。

@domino-86 2 года назад

irohazaka is a very tight road, so to overtake you have to make room, which is what the jump is mostly about, i think that it has the possibility of working if your opponent messes up the corner and loses speed themselves. this is purely speculation because i have not tried it, but in theory it might be the case. anyways, love ur videos g! have a great day

@glennrosario489 2 года назад

it's the element of surprise... nice pfp btw

@domino-86 2 года назад

@@glennrosario489 thanks, we matchin lol

@RicQuintanilla 2 года назад

Totally makes sense! But after actually going there (08&12), and seeing cuts in the pavement, it has/does happen. Either by accident or on purpose.

@kiddwid6499 2 года назад

Love the simplicity of the video!

@MolTintin 2 года назад

拓海の８６が秋名用にクロスミッションを組んでたりしたように、小柏のMR２もそれなりの仕様にしてたらもっと変わってたかもしれん　アニメ見返したら動画の道よりヘアピンもコーナー高低差もキツイものになってるしな

@arkhamkahm8779 2 года назад

The cinematography here! Whoo🔥🔥🔥

@KanzakiZD 2 года назад

it's more effective to block your opponent's ideal racing line, rather than actually getting fast.

@AmbatuNatt 2 года назад

its a fun gimmick to play with and especially with friends to throw them off sometimes

@erja1337channel 2 года назад

i freaking love your videos

@chaos4887 2 года назад

あれは元々、狭い道での追い越しを目的とした仕掛けだったはずですでも、スネークヘアピンの中盤から後半にかけて少しずつ離されていったのも、このラップタイムを見てからだと不思議に感じますね

@nhk471 2 года назад

ガムテープデスマッチなら更にタイム落ちますよね？

@69000852 2 года назад

見やすい・・・分かりやすい・・・そして綺麗・・

@Route765 2 года назад

Nice camera work!

@karasu7394 2 года назад

因為要跳坡的前置動作->對準要跳的路線就會先讓車子因為大幅度的導致幾乎停在原地，加上跳完坡之後要重新穩定車身又會多損失一些時間不過一個彎可以差到快2秒倒是想像不到XD

@-funpintoo8704 2 года назад

目的是要超車而不是快吧？

@bagana100 4 месяца назад

@@-funpintoo8704 你車子停下來重新加速跟慢慢的過彎哪個會比較快結束我覺得蠻明顯的，除非你跳下來讓他撞到你停下來，不然還是正常過彎就好了

@user-wx7dh4xl9h 2 года назад

ちょうど携帯マンガでここらへんの話を読んでたからビックリ！ありがとうございます。

@JackPeng 2 года назад

真是太專業的測試了～厲害誒！

@user-uj7ce5qk3s 2 года назад

映像クオリティ高すぎてビックリしたZE☆

@placeholder2924 2 года назад

It's not necessarily that it's faster, but that it's an overtaking move. If I saw a car jumping off the side of the road where I was going to be, I'd probably stomp on the brakes or at least let off the throttle to avoid a collision. Compromising my corner exit. So it's not a matter of what's faster. It's more like giving your opponent the decision to let you past or to crash and take you both out.

@AthenaAutocross 2 года назад

If you are in the lead, you wouldn't even see him do this move. You'd be 2 seconds ahead before he even hit the dirt part. That's the thin you all keep missing. No one who is in front will notice as by the time he got down on the road, you would be 3 seconds ahead.

@user-zg5yp1wj3i 2 года назад

タイムアタックと違ってレースだからな。この技は基本的に接戦してる時インを抑える。すると相手はアウトの状態でドリフトをしなければならないので挙動の安定の為、ブレーキポイントが早めになる。そしてイン側のドライバーは相手をアウトに押し出しだ状態で地元走りでイン側の更にインをつく。結果、ドリフト走行に比べ大幅なアドバンテージができる。アウト側はドリフト状態に入っているので初見で防ぐのはまず不可能。補足、イン側のインを突く場合車体の向きでスペースを埋める効果がある為、ブレーキを早めにドリフト気味に行うべき。

@hotlantajb1302 2 года назад

Excellent video

@azander1958 2 года назад

It's like Jerichos Trumpet It doesn't look like it can deal damage But it can mess up your opponents mind In the cars case It can't be faster but pulling those stunts can be very distractive (Jerichos Trumpet are those Large trumpets equipped in the Junkers Ju 87 Stuka which produce a Huge sound that can be scary if you can hear it)

@itzyryujin2697 2 года назад

今のはブレーキ踏んで一瞬止まるようにして決めにいってるけどイニシャルDアーケードの場合、自分はドリフトしながらいろは坂の坂飛んでる

@maboroshimrs 2 года назад

良いな〜SW20❤昔乗ってたけど、新車が買えるならまた買いたいくらい魅力的❤

@edayala9171 2 года назад

Thanks for the video I enjoyed it

@dillanmistry 2 года назад

It’s incomparable!

@babtechno 2 года назад

狭い道幅で強引にルート先着して進路妨害するところが本懐だろうが直ドリで侵入するともっとスムーズかもしれない

@finlandball1939 2 года назад

It’s a good overtaking method and a damn good one at that. Not time saving, but unexpected.

@commandergeokam2868 2 года назад

Exactly

@03Damian 8 месяцев назад

Woow nice montage!

@alsa4real 2 года назад

Best motoring style comparison was great

@yokoichi 2 года назад

タイムどうこう関係なくカメラアングルが完璧なのよ、完全に空中にライン描いてるわ

@東出晶大 2 года назад

すげぇドライビングテクニックだな

@user-om9zl7wm4q 2 года назад

原作だと道路の両脇に落ち葉がたまりすぎていて道幅を目いっぱい使えず、十分な速度でのドリフトができない状況だったからこそ有効な走法でしたっけね。

@doublem5679 2 года назад

You dont have to STOP and lose all momentum, the anime did that for dramatic effect. Scandanavian flick into it super wide and early and you indeed save time.

@dsleong8328 2 года назад

Rally driver do this all the time and it's faster even without the jump

@CldGamingChannel 2 года назад

Fantastic gameplay

@masaki_mski34 2 года назад

思ったより遅いのですね。バトルだと、いきなり後ろの車が現れるように見えるので、ブレーキを踏ませることができる形になるのかもしれませんね。また、AE86のタイムが気になるところ。

@vrdbestsimulatorring7870 2 года назад

2回目の小柏の長尾MR-S戦ですが　拓海突っ込みで負けてます。（コーナーで負けてる）コレがいろは坂時代からそうなら面白い考察になりますねw

@user-ez9eq1lx9d 2 года назад

いや、再現度えぐい

@MrNFSIRTLR 2 года назад

I feel like stopping then going is what slows you down the most not the line itself

@chidaanathkumaresan6723 3 месяца назад

This song matches this scene more than crazy for love

@jhevi9161 2 года назад

These graphics, so impressive :0

@gamedestroyer8219 2 года назад

Fair but what about taking it one step further and using the guardrail, light post as the apex, initial d arcade style?

@FineysHiney 6 месяцев назад

Kogashiwa was using the snap oversteer on his mr2 to perform the irohazaka jump, not braking.

@masa-qw1dp 2 года назад

地元走りをあの状況でやったら実際は一回目「嘘だろ!?抜かされた!?」二回目「あれ?なんか近付いてね?」三回目「追い抜いたぁ☆」ってなりそう

@user-se3hj4gk3v 2 года назад

跳躍，輪胎離開地面，失去推進力，控制力。

@gardawg 2 года назад

I have tried this on forza horizon 4, both player will not make any increase time lap, but it's more like a scare tactics and somehow you can replicate this on that game cuz it doesn't have any weird penalties rule other than wall hard banging slowdown

@alpatingittugacha1880 2 года назад

Imagine having a opponent of your back stresses you out and Pushing you to do the thing

@scathachx Год назад

everyone forgot to mention that in the show there was leafs on the pavement when turning. Making it harder to drift the corner. Not sure by how many seconds this affected the drivers

@baccarah7010 2 года назад

Of course I will take a complete suspension rebuild for the sake of style points

@yu-chiehlee8031 2 года назад

其實不要煞停，直接把飄移路徑提前應該會快一些，只是中間的路燈桿要拿掉

@user-di3pr4jr5d 2 года назад

「CGを使ったシュミレーション動画での綿密な計算！動画センスの塊みてーな奴だ！！」

@KrakenIsMahB 2 года назад

that corner you used the trick in is very mild turn, in the anime it was so sharp you basicacally had to turn on nothing, but the exit of the road you landed on was just beneath entrance of the corner. And this changes everything. No way even Takumi could carry that speed over the corner until the exit, making irohazaka jump a viable shortcut

@nugrohoar9851 2 года назад

Had you compare drift vs. grip either? Would like to see it..

@bolinchen2293 2 года назад

請問一下我看你AC的畫面很柔和我很喜歡這種感覺可以請教一下你有裝了哪一些畫質強化的MOD嗎? 感謝~

@panmimiR 2 года назад

イニD内で掟破りの地元走りする瞬間のMR2はF1並のトラクション

@SilverScarletSpider 2 года назад

Can you make a video on tHe different racing lines of the RWD Toyota Corolla AE86 Sprinter Trueno vs FWD Toyota Corolla of the same year?

@Route765 2 года назад

Just cam here to say the thumbnail almost looks like real life

@arlequin8897 2 года назад

タイムの速さより相手の意表を突くためのテクニックだと思ってます

@youtubeaccountlol4942 2 года назад

Love this! Simple and to the point - check out sim racing blokes vid on this jump

@Gxiyama_Enjoy_Car_Life 2 года назад

あのセリフは自分に対するものだったのか💡

@KMKZ.VIDEO. 2 года назад

How do you get the individual dialogue? I want to make content like yours but it’s difficult because the audio I use has music in them. So it Interferes with the other music.

@jimmypoik1297 2 года назад

哈哈你拍得好有趣

@埼玉のレビンマスター 2 года назад

インベタのさらにインを突く神業かヤバいな

@ussii_youtube 2 года назад

これ、ほんとに速いのかずーっと気になってました！追い抜きすらできなさそう

@kouchagawa 2 года назад

減速するにも加速するにもタイヤが接地していることが重要で、地元走りだとジャンプしている間に加速できていない分、この後の直線での速度に差が出てしまう、という理解でいいのでしょうか？

@domex_theog 2 года назад

Yo nice video keep up the good work i love the cool videos. What tipe of wheel setup du you use? Im looking four a good drift seup!

@VegetableStudio 2 года назад

Simagic Alpha Wheelbase + Momo Tuner 350mm wheel

@domex_theog 2 года назад

Thx

@Diamond_Cat 2 года назад

下個影片可以拍水溝蓋跑法真的比較快嗎owo/

@rohitc5790 2 года назад

Damn.... I thought it would be crazy for love

@bensonlee6328 2 года назад

想不到被重野老頭騙了十幾年

@potat0424 2 года назад

man what pp filter do u use it looks so good!

@Sumuddy 2 года назад

I would enter at a 90 degree angle, using weight and speed & then accelerate at full rev, balancing out the slide, to be able to hit it

@cxssetteman182 2 года назад

It would work on a U curve tho. The thing is that a Hairpin has too less distance to justify a trick like this. Where a bigger turn, will also increase distance. So the car following the path will have to drift a longer path. While the car making the jump could justifiably brake to a stop, readjust angle, and accelerate through the turn. Drifting is only faster on Hairpin and 90° Turns. Drifting allows the Trajectory of the car to shift quicker. The faster a car can readjust its position, the faster it can accelerate into a straight line. But it only works when there's a sudden change in direction.

@Aero-Studio 2 года назад

I am impressed with the look of the game. Could you please provide the graphics settings?

@sharktimeway5048 2 года назад

昔のHot versionの走行比較映像みたいで懐かしく感じました。

@Tranzistor001 2 года назад

hello, can you ask please what graffic mod do you use? Or your graffic settings? Thank you

@yukitakashi920 2 года назад

カイ「ここだ！！」拓海「えっ！？ぶつけられる！？ブレーキ！」カイ「この勝負勝った―！！」だった可能性出来ましたら消えるラインもお願いします🙇

@evaldasliska2083 2 года назад

When a game is so realistic, you have to think for a seconds whether it's real life or not 😂

@user-SonnanKusahaeruwa 2 года назад

関係ないけど当人の技術がいるとはいえ、このレベルのCGを個人で作れるっていい時代だよなぁ

@airaramsi2792 2 года назад

まさに地元スペシャル

@cyberneticxylem9614 2 года назад

The Irohazaka Jump is a Hail Mary.

@vrdbestsimulatorring7870 2 года назад

ジャンプのラインは強めのシフトロック気味のフェイント無しのノーブレレベルの突っ込み重視（サイド引いたように急激にリヤを流す感じ）のラインとかならどうなんだろうかなと、アホな突っ込みしてインさえ入れればラインの制限や相手ドライバーのクラッシュ回避を想定した操作によりワンチャンオーバーテイクはあり得そうではありますね。連続ジャンプはもうわかりませんが