Can't believe Israel is imperfect. Actually I can, Israelis are humans. Compare Israel to its neighbors it is a successful Democracy. Actually as dysfunctional as it is Israel is one of the world's most successful countries in the world! As a hispanic liberal I support the state of Israel and its dynamic people!
It's not a democracy. It's a ethnocracy. Stop the bs. In true democracies anyone can be elected as president or prime minister, independently of race or religion. True democracies: US, Brazil, India, European countries etc.
This is the stupidest question in contemporary politics. As if other countries that claim to be democratic are 'perfect democracies'. The UK doesn't have a written constitution either. France narrows its vote to two candidates and then gives almost unlimited power to a kind of elected dictator for 4 years. The USA is controlled by two parties that are so well funded no other can reach the populace. Every country in the EU has compromised its democratic sovereignty. Japan had 8 PMs in 4 years a decade ago. Only Switzerland can really claim to be more democratic than Israel. And Israel has a far livelier, more argumentative democracy than Switzerland. And argumentation is the second main check and balance for a democracy. The main check and balance of a democracy is, of course, the demos. And the constant democratic protests in Israel show that it is far healthier than most. The question of Israel's democracy has become prominent because people who pretend to be left wing (their not really left wing), pretend to hate Israel (they don't really hate Israel) and pretend that it's not a democracy (it is really a democracy). This is because left wing politics is a fantasy far more than traditional religion and it needs fantasies like the question of Israel's democracy to sustain it. For example, democratising the judiciary, as Netanyahu wants to do, is a way to increase democracy and its checks and balances. But the left in Israel pretends this is anti-democratic because doing so will reduce their power over the country. That power is non-democratic but they pretend it is democratic because they are left-wing fantasists.
None of those countries you mentioned applies military law to a population they control while civil law to a different set of people living in the same territory. The correct term would be ethnocracy. People of a certain ethnic group have more rights and responsibilities than others within the state.
@@nanfad You're just pretending to be stupid. None of those countries I mentioned has been attacked, constantly, by Muslims with the intention of annihilating it since the day it was formed it just because they hate Jews. And ALL Israeli citizens have an equal vote regardless of ethnicity. So it's not an ethnocracy. You're probably one of those "people who pretend to be left wing (their not really left wing), pretend to hate Israel (they don't really hate Israel) and pretend that it's not a democracy (it is really a democracy)" Whatever you are, you are free to continue with you're dishonest fantasy pretending that Israel is an ethnocracy, even though you have now been shown that this is completely false by that fact that all its citizens have a vote and that there are Arab and even Islamist parties. Haters are going to hate regardless of reason and decency.
@@nanfadObviously you don't know these are different territories The Palestinians governs themselves with their own laws, this video is about Israeli citizens Jews, Arabs, Druze, Christians, Muslims, Ethiopian Jews etc This is not About Judea and Samaria that you lots call occupied territories It sounds funny that Jews are called occupiers of Judea 😂
What if the Arab Muslim Israeli Were Majority in Israel and the Jewish Were Minority & Would the Jewish get the same right as Muslim ? Or It would be different story
You beat me to the comment. I strongly believe a Jewish State contradicts with democracy. In a democracy, non-Jews can be a majority and vote Israel out of existence.
You can ask Palestinians just that. They will tell you in your face they want Jew to be second class and thats maybe 10% that would accept Jews at all.
Fight those who believe not in Allah nor the Last Day, nor hold that forbidden which hath been forbidden by Allah and His Messenger, nor acknowledge the religion of Truth, (even if they are) of the People of the Book(Jews and Christians), until they pay the Jizya with willing submission, and feel themselves subdued. Quran 9;29
Didn't watch the video, but as an Israeli I can answer this simple question. Yes, Israel is very much a democracy. We hold elections every 4 years max, we have freedom of speech (plus our media is free to criticise the government at will), we have human rights and equality (yes, even the 20% muslim arabs). We are not perfect, no country is, but we are one of the most modern and advanced western civilizations and we are one of the happiest nations in the world (according to international studies).
My christian family in Nazareth do not have equal rights though. There are certain routes that are "Jewish only". They can't always travel everywhere because of this
Israel has a democratic system similar to the British one...based on an unwritten constitution. The problem is, the UK constitution evolved over many centuries of tradition. Ultimately though, democracies only succeed when democratic values are alive and supported by the people.
Are people forgetting lebanon? Or the fact that since the west bank and gaza are under israeli jurisdiction that they should be allowed to vote? Or that even israeli citizens of arab descent (my christian family in nazareth) are guven fewer rights with second class citizenship? They literally arent allowed on certain roads because we are not european
What about Lebanon? This? ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-m6Ek21dwIzY.htmlsi=3t-z2aWu9OWnMicp re: roads and rights - I think you’re getting confused between ethnicity, religion, and nationality. Some roads are off limits to nonIsraeli Palestinians due to threats of terrorism, but are open to all Israelis, including 2 million Muslim and Christian Arabs equally. Also you do know that the majority of Jewish Israelis are most recently descended from Arab countries (from which they were ethnically cleansed)? You can learn more here: ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-B6qNKAP2f5M.htmlsi=eOG1dd4alclWB5S2
Smotrich said in a media interview posted on his party's RU-vid channel that Arab citizens of Israel are deserving of rights and all government services by right, not by magnanimous charity. Ben Gvir has said the same many times. Educate yourself on what Ben Gvir and Smotrich actually stand for.
@@zevspitz8925ben gvir wants a “special police” for arabs. Ben gvir is like a ben queer in college from queers for palestine. Both shitty extremists ruining society
@@zevspitz8925 show me the videos! Then why are they celebrating when kids die in Westbank? Giving hi fives to the IDF soldiers when they killed a kid? Explain that please
Well, this is an interesting matter. It might as well because Israel is a combination of a democracy with some aspect that is Jewish style since we have rival factions in the past such as (Sadducees, Pharisees, Zealots, and the Essenes) that existed back then.
I am a pro-Israeli and a Zionist at heart, but calling Israel a true democracy may not necessarily be true. Calling the state a “Jewish State” by itself is anti democratic, so is the lack of constitution and the recent changes to the judicial system. This highlights the importance of working towards improving democracy in Israel 💙🇮🇱💙
The Chief Rabbinate holds too much power. Forget about who is allowed to vote, we are talking about the laws that people should vote for. Write Torah based laws into the constitution, but don't give a minority power over all civil matters. The things that matter to people on a base level: their families. I would need to go to Cypress, even if I married another Jew. I wouldn't be able to get married in my shul, surrounded by my friends and family, a signed ketubah and a chuppah. Because I am not Orthodox. And that is only the start. What if I divorce? Want custody of my children? Require child support? And all the other things that people go through in their personal lives? Well, there is a civil court, but guess who holds equal power? Yup The Chief Rabbinate. And their decisions are held up by the police and other law enforcement. Its like Animal Farm by Orwell , some citizens are more equal to others.
Watching from New Zealand where we dont have a codified constitution. We also have a parliament with both party list and electorate seats, which makes coalition governments common.
It is not. In true democracies anyone can be elected as president or prime minister, independently of race or religion. True democracies: US, Brazil, India, European countries etc. With all the human imperfections like corruption etc. Yet anyone can be elected (black, white, jew, muslim, asian...). Arabs and Druze are not "first class ciitzens", they have restrictions. Israel is an ethnocracy (An ethnocracy is a type of political structure in which the state apparatus is controlled by a dominant ethnic group (or groups) to further its interests, power, dominance, and resources.) Stop the hallucination. Did I hurt your feelings? Not my problem.
I got an email asking if I want to volunteer being a paramedic in isrl. This is the only channel I watch that has something to do with isrl. Has anyone else gotten the email?
There is no country on earth that's a democracy. I come from the oldest Parliamentary so-called democracy, the UK. The UK is ostensibly a Christian country, yet it's previous Prime Minister was a Hindu, and his Party the conservative had at one time a Jew as its leader, who could have become PM. Here in Israel that can't, and won't happen, as Israel's voting system is designed so that a non-Jew can never be PM, President, or can be appointed Chief of the IDF. A country will only ever be a real democracy when it's working people rule. Also as Israel occupies lands, controls, and subjugates people of an other culture, against international rule, that Israel is a signature to, it's not a democracy. Israel is a country for Jews, but as Judaism, like the other two monotheistic religions is un-democratic. No Israel is not democratic, but having said all that, it's not a bad place to live, occasionally, when it's not at war, like now.
I kind of feel like the Haredi who are exempted from military service shouldn’t be allowed to vote. Otherwise it allows them to vote militaristically but not risk their or their children’s lives in war.
Haredim cannot enter the military without sacrificing Judaism. (The religious-Zionists have the same problem; they make all sorts of compromises the Haredim aren't willing to do.) Is Israel now going to prevent freedom of worship?
@@Didleeios88 Anyone who chooses exemption rather than joining the military service like anyone else shouldn't get to vote until they are no longer of service age. It would be their choice to give up that right if they don't want to serve.
I love the video! The only thing that I didn't share was romanticizing the "coalition" between haredim and islamist In some points (maybe too many) they share some core values. Am Israel Jai!
you do remember it still very very young state in terms of "statehood" right? the "Tribal" values is still very strong element in Israeli Society. and it will take time an more Generations to be desolves by itself
I don't know how many versions of Israel map I've seen by Israelis, pro-Israelis, officials etc. Rarely with WB and Gaza as not part of it, some times the land of historic palestine, some other times it swallaws also Jordan + Sinai + Syria + Lebanon + Saudi Arabia partially, or present some kind of blurry borders with WB and Gaza un an in between color not the same as for Israel and not the color of foreign territory either. The map in this video shows Israel in blue, foreign countries inbligjt yellow, WB in Green and Gaza in yellow like a foreign county?
who cares if there is a constitution? canada had one since the 80's, but we've seen on many occasions (especially recently) how that paper is totally worthless like a marriage license: is it better to have the OBLIGATION to behave a certain way, or to have the aspiration and conviction to practice such behavior?
Can I ask you something what do you have income with 🇺🇸 as they have never had to deal with Terrorism not like us in Northern Ireland or as Israel so I would say is this we have more income with Israel than the us 🇺🇸 because we have lived with Terrorism here in Northern Ireland 🇬🇧
The description that has been done towards 3/4 of the video, the one of balance in tribalism... That's the description of _any_ representative democracy!😂 only usually the tribe is the party.( That's why imo representative democracy is obsolete and today thanks to technology could be replaced by less dangerous versions of participative democracy).
There are no democracies in the Middle East. Middle eastern people have other concerns and priorities. Why should israel be the first one? Let Jordan, Egypt, Iran, Syria, or Saudi Arabia lead the way.
you can talk for 1000 hours about Israel, but the fact of the matter is, the vast majority of the people living in the levant didn't ask for this, nobody in history would have accepted that 'partition plan,' and nobody would have accepted that their land be divided in half for one minority group, and nobody would have been happy if one group conquered the whole place right afterwords
So you're against sharing? Did you ever do kindergarten? ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-1kYWII25cxM.html Also why shouldn't the British divide their land?
Uncontested history. Uncontested facts you can find on internet many of them from Arab sources. 1914 - 1918 - Word War I - The Allies (the United Kingdom, France …) against the Central Pawers (German Empire, the Ottoman Empire, …) 1915 - The Sykes-Picot Agreement between the Britain and France was a private wartime treaty which was to determine the post-war partition of Middle East lands. July 1915 - March 1916 - 'The McMahon - Hussein' correspondence. 10 letters between Sharif Hussein, the Emir of Mecca (Hussein bin Ali al-Hashimi) and the British High Commissioner to Egypt Sir Henry McMahon. The correspondence had a significant influence on Middle East history; the dispute over Palestine continues until today. In the exchange, McMahon, in the name of the British government, promised an independent Arab state in the area of Greater Syria (from the Mediterranean to present-day Iraq and from the Indian Ocean to Syria). The correspondence does not mention Palestine In return Sharif Hussein would launch an Arab revolt against the Ottoman Empire in order to drive the Ottoman Army from the Arabian Peninsula in the context of the WWI. June 1916 - the Arab revolt began in Mecca despite unresolved questions concerning the precise boarders. June 1916 - On the basis of the alliance with the British Empire, the Hashemite Kingdom of Hejaz (region of Western Asia that included the western portion of the Arabian Peninsula) was self-proclaimed as an independent kingdom (1916 - 1924) and Hussein bin Ali al-Hashimi the Sharif of Mecca became King of Hejaz.
Nov. 1917 - In an effort to win the support of Jewish communities in both allied countries and enemy countries (during the WWI), the UK foreign secretary signed the Balfour Declaration. Vowing to set up a national home for the Jewish people in Palestine and support the Jewish immigration. Dec. 1917 - All the concerned parts became aware of the play when the Sykes-Picot Agreement was exposed. The post-war partition plan of Middle East lands between Britain and France was made public by the Bolsheviks after the Russian Revolution. 1918 - It was a plan to install the three younger sons of Hussein bin Ali al-Hashimi as heads of state in newly created countries across the Middle East, whereby his son Abdullah would rule Baghdad and Lower Mesopotamia (known also as Arab Iraq), Faisal would rule Syria, and Zeid would rule Upper Mesopotamia. Hussein's first son, Ali would be his successor in Hejaz. 1920 - The League of Nations assigned to Great Britain the administration of the land on both sides of the Jordan River (the present-day countries of Israel and Jordan). At the time this land was known as Palestine (and the people regardless of their religion were Palestinian) hence the mandate was called The Mandate for Palestine or The British Mandate. 1920 - 1921 Factors outside British control interfered with the 1918 Hussein's Plan: Ali was ousted from Hejaz by Ibn Saud (Saudi conquest), France removed Faisal from Syria, he moved to Iraq and became King of Iraq in 1921, and Abdullah I entered the East Bank of Palestine (east of the Jordan River). 1921 - Churchill cut off 77 % of the territory of British Palestine from the proposed Jewish national home to create the Emirate of Transjordan (Jordan of today), in order to give the Hashemite dynasty from Arabia a kingdom which became a British protectorate. The British made Abdullah I emir of the newly created Transjordanian state and later King of Jordan.
1922 - Mandatory Palestine was established (the west side of the Jordan River). The Palestinian Jewish accepted the decision under the understanding that the Palestinian Arabs living on the west side of the Jordan River who wanted to live in Transjordan will be accepted and free to do so, and the ones who wanted to live in the new Jewish state will stay and have all the rights as the Jewish citizens. At that time, Judea, Samaria and Gaza were part of Mandatory Palestine. During the Mandate, the area saw successive waves of Jewish immigration and the rise of nationalist movements in both the Jewish and Arab communities. 1936-1939 - Competing interests of the two populations led to the Arab revolt in Palestine and the Jewish insurgency in Mandatory Palestine (1944-1948). 1946 - Transjordan achieved independence from the British and changed the name to Emirate of Transjordan. 1947 - The United Nations Partition Plan for Palestine to divide the territory into two states, one Arab and one Jewish, was passed in November 1947. 14 May 1948 - On the last day of the Mandate, the creation of the State of Israel was proclaimed, and the 1948 Arab-Israeli War began next morning with the entry of a military coalition of Arab states (5) into the territory of Mandatory Palestine. The war formally ended with the 1949. 1948 - Kingdom of Egypt established the "All-Palestine Protectorate" in the Gaza (until 1967). At the conclusion of the 1948 Arab-Israeli war, Jordan occupied Judea and Samaria. On April 1950 Transjordan formally annexed these territories and officially changed the name to Hashemite Kingdom of Jordan. Judea and Samaria became West Bank ruled by Jordan until 1967. (In 1988, Jordan officially relinquished its claim to the West Bank and eventually stripped West Bank Palestinians of Jordanian citizenship.)
First, Israel accepted only 22% of the territory of British Palestine from the proposed Jewish national home. Second, Israel accepted (again) the UN decision of allocating land (from what Israel received) to Judea and Samaria conquered by Transjordan. Bottom line, in 1948 Transjordan got 83% and Israel got 17% -- Far from "half land". By 1922 demographic Jews were indeed in minority of 11%. " conquered the whole place right afterwards" - Not at all!! Almost 20 years later, The Six-Day War (1967) - Egypt, Syria, Jordan and Iraq against Israel, ended by conquering Gaza and Sinai from Egypt and the West Bank from Jordan. You start a war, sometimes you can lose.
@@ryanmoore2447yeah... thought they were smart. but just to remind you, the left not only did not protest that, but quite the opposite, on this specific action(of giving money to gaza) he praised bibi... only now, he suddenly protesting and say he is to blame. like hell, of course. but you(not you ryanmoore, like, the left) are in the same mind as him. it is just serve as a great pressure point to make sure he will not be elected again. (which is fine. but hypocritical. which of in turn, make them look more shifty and liars than him. so yeah. they sucks. very much)
