So true! It depends on what you want- I used to grow my echeveria in small shallow pots in gritty mix under lights. But they always looked more or less the same. Small, colorful with thick leaves year after year. Nowadays, I pot them on in a richer soil and enjoying bigger plants with better roots. Thanks for your content- no one else has the topics and experience that you do!
I don’t bother to engage with ornery or disagreeable people. It is best to mute their comments. Thanks for all you do for us. I find your videos very educational. ❤
Your expertise is visible to anyone watching your channel and my outdoor succulents in Albury NSW are thriving since finding your channel. You say time and time again that your videos are based on your experiences and your climate and you freely share your wealth of knowledge with those of us that want to grow beautiful succulents outdoors. THANK YOU
Well said! Everybody has their own way. And what works for some may not work for others. Each person has to grow in a way that works best for them. Thank you for another great video! Bummer they deleted their comments. Juicy drama is fun to read. 😜😆😇
Glad to learn something new today. I think it boils down to what kind of substrate you have. It’s if it’s just all organic with no grit then yes you’re prone to root rot especially if you water it often. But no issue with good substrate for deeper pots. What I know for succulents is the bigger the pot, the bigger the plant grows. I think most people are stuck to their old ways and textbook advice. I mean how would they even know if they have not even tried it.
Dear Kat, I’m so happy to learn about the problems with shallow pots. For 2 years, I have been trying to grow a bouquet of many different echeverias in a large shallow pot, and now I know why the plants are all short and stumpy! Next step is repotting! Thanks so much ! Bonnie. PS I now live in Calif which is dry, but when I lived in Oregon everything was always damp and rainy and I learned to use shallow pots then.
I can definitely see how shallow pots can help in a wetter climate. I hope you’re enjoying the warmer climate in California. I’m like the succulents i grow- like the weather warm & dry 😅😅
@@SucculentGrowingTipsme, not op, reading the comment about warmth in San Francisco, California: 🤣🤣 🌁 (SF is year round 50s-60s max, we just had a heat wave called ... When the forecast was just 78, It got to 85 max. We usually only get above 80 a couple of times a year. Many don't have AC). I've been growing most of mine in a combination of shallow pots, ground, and cement blocks (the building thing, it makes fun little cubicles and can build up in layers. Very uh rustic...? Diy Look). I've definitely noticed the differences.
I get it all the time- some people just get triggered when they hear an alternative to their preferred way of doing things 😅Also, thanks so much for your kind comment 💚
@@SucculentGrowingTips Besides, to each their own. Taking care of plants and its results varies in all aspect. Please keep up whatever you do 🫶🏽 Plant owners, growers and beginners needs you and thank you 😅💚
Many of my succulents get fairly large with long stems and I believe they're too heavy for shallow planters. I agree, too, that they grow larger as they have room for roots.
Hahahaha! Considering your knowledge, experience and the obvious health of your collection....the person making the comment struggles with logical reasoning. They should probably watch, like and sub to your channel to learn why they are mistaken 🤣🤣🤣.
I totally agree with you. If you watch videos of any of them in nature they look like crap and they're small. We're simply giving them better conditions so they can grow bigger and more attractive. Just facts 💚🌵🐝🐦🌻 and no that would not happen in a shallow pot and extremely unlikely in nature as well. I like planting mine in the ground with lots of pea gravel bc they get huge... Not a shallow pot. They die off.
This is a wonderful topic however which is meant to be discussed not argued over .. people these days have a short fuse and fail to use logic . I just have one question ❓ though Kat do you have to upscale the pot or directly plant a Succulent in a large pot and limit the watering initially? Your Succulents are beautiful ... which points to the years of experience you possess Kat 🙏
Very true- it's a shame as i love talking about growing succulents even if the other person disagrees. Any disagreement can be done respectfully. Re bigger pots- i usually plant them straight in and don't really worry about watering, however, i don't just put them in huge pots straight away but rather upgrade the pot gradually. So, for instance, i start them in 3cmx3cm pots, when they start getting rootbound in that i upgrade to either 7x7 or 10x 10 depending on the plant and then go up from there.🙂
That’s crazy for someone to state that you’re wrong. I think some people just like to cause trouble. If they actually had any experience growing succulents they would already know that many succulents have longer roots, like aloe vera for example. I also discovered that Corpuscularia Lehmanii has really long roots so I never pot it into a small pot. At least you got to make an informative video thanks to one uninformed individual. lol
Thank you for your lovely comment 💚I think people just get stuck in their ways and really hate it when their way of doing things gets challenged. But it's definitely great for content ideas when they come into my comments 😂 I've seen so many videos where advice is given to only spray the top of the potting mix, to encourage a more natural, shallow root growth.. I mean, it's not wrong but there are alternative ways 😁
My partner has the same line of thinking for his reptiles, particularly the leopard geckos. Just because they live in the super dry, super hot, super rocky deserts of the Middle East does not mean that they shouldn't have a moist enclosure. Or another way to think about it: if an alien kept a human as a pet, they wouldn't keep us at 85° just because we regularly tolerate that temperature.
Thank you that was good to watch. I love watching your videos I’m learning a lot! I do have a question: in bigger pots do you water less? And do you fertilise? Thanks
Thank you 💚 Personally, i water everything equally, even the deep pots. They are all outdoors and also get rained on. As long as the potting mix is well draining enough and the pot has sufficient drainage as well, i find they are just fine. Having said that, there are cultivars that can be problematic (certain Echeveria cultivars for instance) but they are usually a pain even in shallow pots if its wet and humid enough. The potting mix i use has slow release fertilizer mixed in already and i don't really bother fertilizing on top of that. Instead, i repot when the plants are getting rootbound.🙂
@@SucculentGrowingTips thank you . I’ve been propping and collecting succulents since about September last year. It’s definitely being an eye opener for me.
I have a question. And im not being smart or nothing like that. Just confused. So if they are in a bigger pot how do you prevent root rot? And wouldnt the soil stay wet a very long time because the plant woukd take a long time tobuse it. Also, ive always hears to use a pot 1-2 inches bigger than the root ball? Is that not true for succulents or all plants?
That's a good question. I kinda have a video for that 🙂 ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-vFUCmUhclBY.htmlsi=bLDxe_hX_EuYmcBt It's definitely true that the potting mix will stay wetter for longer in deeper pots but that doesn't mean that rot will automatically get into the roots. Rot is caused by fungus and soil dwelling organisms and they are not always present in potting mix. Having said that, there's always a chance but rot can happen even in shallow pots if the fungus is present. If you like to be super cautious shallow pots are a safer bet but, out of the thousands of big, deep pots we grow each year at the nursery, we very rarely have issue with rot. As long as the potting mix is good and you allow the soil to dry out between waterings, deep pots are great. Also, a special mention to a small number of Echeveria cultivars- some can be very touchy and susceptible to rot (they seem to be a good host for rot causing fungi) and they will benefit from being kept extra dry. Hope this answers your question 🙂
Thats right. Succulents like haworthias and mesembs (including lithops) or anything that devolops substantial taproots like peyotes and ariocarpus will do better in taller/deeper pots. And the ones with more fibrous roots like echeverias, crassulas and sedums do better in shallow pots
@@BTiffney71 I'm not sure if you watched the whole video, but Echeveria do very well in deep pots as well (I've shown a large, deep pot of Echeveria elegans as an example). They will just grow differently to those in shallow pots 🙂
Please how I can select good soil for succulents; I being doing succulents for two months and got like 30 different ones but I don’t know what soil to used; thank for you help
Imo, the best potting mix to use for succulents is a succulent potting mix. You should be able to get one in your local garden centre (if you're in Australia Bunnings/Flower Power will have a few brands). They are formulated to have the right pH and nutrients specifically for succulents. Hope this helps :)
hahahaa- you'd be surprised😅🥲 it's funny coz i don't mind politely disagreeing and having a discussion but some people just love to get mad over nothing 🤷♀
I agree 💯 I've done (and still do) both too and, as i said in the video, both can be a good way of growing succulents. It just depends on what you want out of your plants 🙂
I did mean “never say never” in relation to growing in big pots, not sure if it came across that way. 😊 thanks for fabulous information in your videos..
I was always told not to water too often so apparently I havent been watering mine enough ... could you please tell me how often they should be watered cuz I replanted my Jade plant cuz it seemed like it was ready for a larger pot cuz they are supposed to grow into a tree ... so to speak ... but either I planted it in a pot too large or apparently I was not watering it enough in the larger pot cuz it started dying on me and I have had it for several years now ... I actually repotted it in a smaller pot ... still larger than the original pot ... it is trying hard to come back but I am terribly upset with myself because I am pretty attached and dont quite know what to do to get it strong and healthy again ..... please help 😭
sorry I forgot to say that I just found your channel and I have subscribed cuz I am very impressed by you, your plants and your experience and knowledge ... I pretty much gave up on succulents cuz so many died and it broke my heart 😞
Oh no, sorry to hear that happened 😥 I'm afraid it can be many things and it's hard to give advice without knowing more.. i'll try to suggest a few solutions. Is the Jade inside or outside? If inside i'd suggest popping it outside, somewhere shaded from the sun/ in early morning sun, but still bright (under a tree, pergola, covered patio). It may take time but indoor succulents usually bounce back when they get relocated outdoors. If it's outside, pop it in a spot where it gets afternoon shade. I'm not sure where in the world you are but in summer strong sun can cause burns and leaves may start falling off. Re watering- let the potting mix dry out completely between waterings. Hope at least some of this will help and that your Jade will come back 💚
