is it HARD being a twitch streamer? 

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40? 💀

@@jessicacandice2775 40 for streamers still looks 30 because they don't see sunlight enough to get aged by it

Toast look a lot younger after his glow up

Jynxi said Toast looks 25 hahah then Chat corrects him that Toast is 32. I think

I would say don't take advice from people like me who have gotten very lucky. We're very biased. You know, like Taylor Swift telling you to follow your dreams is like a lottery winner telling you, 'Liquidize your assets; buy Powerball tickets - it works!' -Bo Burnham

"actor? I want a mcspicy with fries" -steven's dad, probably

hello steven! great insight! best of luck to you and your future! ginormo's great!

You mean to tell me that not everyone can make money doing absoultely nothing???? shocking , this is so sad to hear , my heart goes out to these up and coming nothing doers

@@marcogalaxy2944you sound insanely salty about it.

I've been binge watching since 21 lol... binge on fellow binge'r

It's called rambling

Plandemic

His strategic mind at play again. Cashing in on the drama/controversy around what Hasan said, while managing to appear genuine and real unlike all those clickbaiters that just fan the flames.

I love bingeing his videos too, unfortunately u can't do that if u already watched the vids when uploaded 😢

Finally someone with a completely sane take on this... All jobs are challenging in different dimensions and people are more accustomed to some than others. There's only a few jobs I can name that are holistically horrific like vets, nurses, doctors, ems, hospice workers... Physically, emotionally, mentally, spiritually, and psychologically draining. There's a reason vets and doctors commit self-exit at such an insanely high rate...

Is it really more draining to play video games and talk to people who send u money than it is to work a real job tho?!

I would say streaming so much is more draining, dan an office 9-5, but not worse than a lot of blue collar jobs (most not all)

​@@alexnelson2990 You're talking like streaming isn't a real job, while it is: it's like conducting a program on TV but on another platform, it requires a lot of skills to be successfull and get the ability to live from it. You need the ability to talk a lot without being boring, to maintain and increase the audience, so you need to have a strong personality and also understand what games are worth playing and choose your cooperations with other streamers wisely. Also, incomes are never equal every day, and everything can change in the span of a few days. It's harder than it seems, trust us

​@@alexnelson2990 in certain aspects, yes. Even in my shit customer service job, theres times I can switch my brain off and rest. Streamers have to be switched on the entire time. And it is socially draining, just as customer service is. After an 8 hour shift, I also don't want to socialise at all, so I can definitely see that streamers feel the same, even if they are earning 1000x more money

Watching this on my 4 day weekend from my super fun job.

I left my soul-sucking job right at the beginning of the pandemic. I was not getting enough hours to live on and I started learning a different, at home, job in my downtime. Once everyone was in lockdown, I just went all in on the side job. Now, I work at home. I love working at home but it's not all happy joy joy. I can't imagine what streamers have to do on a daily basis. Sure it sounds like fun, but there is a lot of work involved that we don't see on camera. As the saying goes, "The grass is always greener..." No job is 100% fun and easy.

Ah, so you're a streamer too like our boy Cenk's Nephew.

@@LuminousTurtle2029 Yup people also forget being a streamer you have to be entertaining too. If you aren't you get no money. Anyone can stream but most of us just will never make a career out of it

Hasan here talking about "unless you work in retail" Boy, I worked a few years as a auto technician before moving onto engineering. Not only is that job back breaking and physically exhausting, it's mentally exhausting having to deal with customer complaints and then the backlash you get when people think you're trying to upsell them on their bald ass tires. You fix their complaint, 20k miles later, something else completely different starts squeaking they come back and blame you. It's thankless and the money isn't guaranteed at all. Slow day at work? No money. A job takes longer than it should? No money. God forbid you're sitting down for 9 hours, watching videos, and taking pee breaks every 30 minutes. It must be soul suckingly hard unlike literally every other job. I couldn't be happier pursuing my engineering degree because I could not imagine doing that for even 5 more years.

High quality + some quantity beats low quality and high quantity almost every time, doesn't it.

Hasan content be like: 🪑 Guys I work so hard :( stop being mean to me

@@Dogan_TM Hasan just said how it is. If it was some small streamer, you wouldn't even hear that, lmao.

You seem to misunderstand one aspect. > Like there are plenty of successful streamers who go live three days a week for 6 hours and pull crazy viewership. These successful streamers already made it. The Brand that they have built (popularity and reputation), is working for them. Think of it like, let's say, GRRM becoming successful with writing ASOIAF and now just milking that to the max (without putting out the fucking Winds Of Winter, I fking swear, that old fart will die before he finishes the series) >And then there are those streaming 16 hours everyday, uploading unedited vods for a couple hundred views, and burning out even though they put in "so much effort" These people, essentially, are the ones trying to make it in the scene (or, alternatively, trying to hold onto viewership). They haven't gathered enough resources to put in into work (be it in money or popularity) for them, so they, instead, trying to work that shit the old-fashioned way. People dunk on Hasan because he is popular, has a clout, and his message got hit with the wide audience, but it's not like smaller streamers were not saying that before. Which only kinda proves my point because people just see, maybe, a hundred or so big streamers and straight up forget about thousands who are at the bottom of category. (Which is similar to Onlyfans shit, people like to pretend that it's only the top1% models, who made thousands, while your average camwhore, apparently, makes about 180 dollars per month LMAO) The main two problems with streaming (if you want to make it a work, not just a hobby) is gathering audience and keeping said audience. And, like with every entertainment and "celeb" industry, actually making it big is the hardest part. Only with, let's say, actors, you still get some money from, let's say, working in the theater, while if you are not relevant in the streaming scene, you are working for zero results (maybe even for losses). People really need to get a reality check on this shit, and get the point that streaming is not just "download OBS, launch some game and you will drown in easy money" kind of activity.

Yep. He was spot on. All of these people taking the first clip out of context are just incredibly frustrating

​@@KiwiCrisisyeah shitting on Hasan for saying streaming drains you mentally in a way most other jobs don't makes sense. It's not the hardest job in the world, but there is a reason so many streamers go to therapy

Do you mean ludwig?

Do you mean ludwin?

Let's hope so.

No... this is Toast... better than mail.

Disguised Delivery

Same take as Hasan

​@@eavocado5890pppjit's literally just people without context who are mad, the fact hasan is a political streamer is mostly why they're mad more than anything

@@MattyBmemes I know, it’s such a silly situation lol

@@eavocado5890pppj "When I was poor and I complained about inequality, I was being told I am bitter, when I was successful and I complained about inequality, I was being told I am hypocrite" (c) Kind of same vibes, to be honest.

All that's needed to be objective is to view the 15 second "extended clip" with the context. That's literally all.

I've heard someone say that a good way to do it is to supplement your audience with streams as a reward for following your content and it really seemed to make sense to me. If they like them to where it makes sense for you to stream a lot more, great. But if not, your long form content is what they came for anyways, so there is no loss.

​@@iLL_WiLL_Yeah, but I kinda feel you need to have the right personality to be able to stream consistently, for example I know I'll never be able to do this kind of work as a reserved introvert! Mental part does a lot in every work that requires human skills

@@TheJohnbusi As a reserved introvert, you'd be surprised that its actually easier to stream consistently. The only thing I disliked to do was turn on my camera, since that requires effort to look decent, but plenty of big streamers have streamed without a cam. Introverts are fine talking into a void, a lack of social interaction actually energizes, and by the time the viewcount becomes substantial, you've already disassociated chat as one single entity. Extroverts have issues with streaming, because they rely on social interaction for energy. The main thing about streaming is that you do it whenever you want to. If you do anything because you have to, it by default will drain energy. People dont really complain too much if you upload videos a bit inconsistently as they do if you streamed inconsistently. But if you set the standard of inconsistent streams, and that people can join whenever, its a breeze.

I'm not an expert but I would advice you to change your profile pic. Most successful streamers have a recognizable pic, even if you see it on your small smartphone screen.

better top up the headlight fluid!

@@PC-vp2cg Im not a streamer, ive streamed in the past, and i have some really old tutorial vids for a 20 year old game on my account lol. That pic is of my dog who passed a few years ago, and im good keeping her there.

Lol dude makes a video that mentions how RT fell off, a week later they shut down.

rip roooster teeth

I know an ukrainian dota2/path of exile streamer, who were doing somewhat similar for about 5 years, IIRC, before he got the audience because he featured on one of those "funny moments" compilations. Another russian hearthstone streamer straight up didn't beat around the bush and said that if you go streaming in hopes to get easy money, just don't, lmao, because you really need to mentally prepare to suck a big fat one instead, possibly for years, before you even have a chance to make SOMETHING out of that.

Thats the thing you have to do with streaming tho. You have to go in with the intend to just do what you enjoy and entertain the people who watch you. A streamer is basically a digital living statue. You could quit your job, spend 5000$ on your gear, and get no donations at all, and this gets you frustrated, makes you want to quit and not stand out there as often and be forced back working your normal routine. Or you could dip old clothes in silver paint at a cost for 50$ at most, and gain thousands of donations per day, because you are standing there whenever you have spare time left to do so. I know someone who did content for youtube for years, and averaged 10 viewers per video. Then he made a new channel, because he learned something about the algoritm, and his old channel literally worked against him (nowadays, old content does not really matter as much). That channel also failed, but for a while had 500 views per video (before plummetting to 5 views per video). Now, that dude has nearly 600k subscribers, which considering the amount of people who speak our native language, is quite a lot of people. As in, about 5 million people would actively watch youtube, and only about 1 million of those watch the type of content he produces. Thats like if Pewdiepie had 300 million subscribers. Or if Mr. Beast had 400 million subscribers (his content is a lot broader than PewDiePie). The only time you should care for viewcount, is when it unexplainably jumps or drops.

Exactly.

nope. a more accurate representation of why this rubbed people the wrong way is if you, as someone who had a bad day, went to someone who is objectively having a much shittier day and said "man your day could not be worse than mine is right now" no one is objecting to the fact that streamers have problems too. no one is claiming that streamers all live perfect lives with no hardship. people are just pissed at someone who had the audacity to claim streaming is more "soul sucking" than regular jobs. that's it. it was a shitty take that came off as extremely out of touch and people are understandably upset.

@@nickhalden374 Yeah, I think if he used a different term more people would agree. I personally think streaming can absolutely be harder than some jobs. Most 9-5 desk jobs imo are easier than streaming. Especially considering some of these people stream 7 days a week with no vacation out of fear of losing their viewers if they take a break.

It's not that fucking common and that's also why you don't put all your info on social media.

@@user-kn1uj2tp6r "1 in a million" = "not that fucking common"

@@user-kn1uj2tp6reven non famous people can have psycho stalkers. so yes it is pretty fucking common

​@@AP-ei6jp It's just not, you are watching too many movies. Now name 5 streamers out off the top of your head, who had that happen to them - that would be common.

​@@PC-vp2cgpeople have been doxed a lot

its cool to hate on successful people. that is just the way society is programmed

Realest answer is that people just love to get mad and hear drama, algos are optimized around engagement, and other content creators cater to the algos to boost their own metrics and cash. If you scroll back even 2 minutes into the Hasan VOD, you'll learn that the conversation that led up to this was him talking about being low-energy at a party he went to after streaming. Saying "I just got off a 9 hour workday I'm sorry I'm pretty low energy RN" is the most normal-ass conversation anyone could ever have, yet here we are at 50M views and literally a thousand reaction videos later.

​@@Ahwleung. Hasan literally has the worst haters. Clips of him that go viral almost always are taken out of context.

​@ng.Thing is, everyone can say that. But nobody will present that their jobs are harder than everyone else's. That is a child's take, incredibly self-centered and is an insult to anyone else who actually have hard conditions of living. Also, coming from Hasaan who has some strong political views, it just puts the nail in the coffin on him looking absolutely like a privileged kid that is out-of-touch with reality. He is close to saying that no other job is as tough or no one understands what hard life streaming is. That is just an absolute lie. Many of the issues with a streaming job can be found elsewhere. Not a hater, also I think it's fine to complain about your job to your friends. But we are not his friends AND we don't have to agree with his bs, especiallly when he presents it as a fact lol. It's not that some people probably have it harder than him, it's that MOST people probably have it much harder than him with much less reward or control.

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@@Ahwleung. Of course that’s a normal thing to say, it’s just unnecessary to compare other jobs to your job. Like, why would you do that. That’s so unproductive and unnecessary.

That’s also Hasan’s take people just point out one clip were he doesn’t meant how easily and lucky he is, he has been saying this shit for years.

​@@eavocado5890pppj Haters go "hasan big mansion, not socialist, money big I'm angry, fuck him!"

or more like he speaks nonsense

He just yapping

@@someone3706he has been a political commentator for more than a decade now and has wrote, produced and worked for many main stream news organizations from Al-Jazzera to the New York times. He regularly has academic, historians, journalist and people who dedicate their entire life to a specific topic.

So did Claudine from Harvard and look how that turned out.

@@eavocado5890pppjIkr? And he still speaks nonsense.

I mean it sounds like it’s hard, but most jobs are hard

@@corvacopia not really, worked at over 10 minimum wage jobs and none of those jobs were "hard". Sure at first they are physically hard but you get easily used to that.

@@RealTaIk I mean, there are different kinds of hard jobs, a lot of those kinds of jobs can be soul crushing for a lot of people

@@corvacopia I don't think so. Soul crushing jobs are usually healthcare jobs and those aren't that popular for that reason. (and of course because of the low pay in return)

@@RealTaIk there are a lot more jobs than that which can be soul crushing

Learn to save your money, it's not that damn hard. Learn to go without.

@@user-kn1uj2tp6r Ah yes, I'll just go without food, that'll make me rich!

@@user-kn1uj2tp6r omfg what a tool

@@user-kn1uj2tp6r Not everyone lives with their parents like you clearly do.

@@alucard8433nothing wrong with that tho. In big parts of the world living in a house with all immediate family members are considered the social norms. Some times even with uncles and aunts are considered normal.

Sasaengs, swatting, being sexualized, death threats, doxxing, constant notifications and hate comments, people analyzing your every more, literally this and so so much more. I wouldn't call that "not hard". Not even to mention the psychological toll of this widespread, longitudinal people pleasing and content brain.

@@madisonblack7201 It's not hard, those things can happen to anyone anywhere. Not sure where you're trying to go with this.

@@YutaBLv LOL yes, but do normies experience this on a daily basis? Not at all. Especially not if you're not engaging is offensive behaviors. The fact some of y'all don't even try to empathize with these streamers and public figures is just concerning and depressing. These things listed are objectively difficult for humans to endure.

@@madisonblack7201 you're assuming too much.

Toast hadn't even mentioned some of the most objectively nightmare-ish aspects of streaming and being available in the public eye. Sasaengs, swatting, being sexualized, death threats, doxxing, constant notifications and hate comments, people analyzing your every more, literally this and so so much more. I would DESPISE being famous because you also can't really just disappear back into society as you please. Someone will constantly recollect the chapters of your life where you were basically a product being globally consumed...

No one is envy. There are other jobs "socially" draining. And more dangerous. What hasen whos family is rich and he has his spoon feed to him his whole life complain have a side gig. Bitch and moan.

Just like celebrities, “normal” people don’t think or at least put these streamers and content creators on a higher scale because of fame/popularity. Just like how celebrities are often forgotten that they are human beings too, content creators are the same. :/ Agree that envy is the trigger.

@@branddransnothingbuthands599 like everyone forgets what he said. Had literally nothing to do with envy.

Swatting is a streaming hazard, lmao

I agree with you for the most part. I think even when Hasan tries to contextualize and elaborate things that he says there's already a hate train on X and in Discord servers and groups that literally LIVE to nonstop harass the dude. a lot of psychotic haters. Although, Toast still missed countless challenges streamers are subject to, I find it ironic that people aren't realizing the reality that your job can be hard, but still not as hard as existing as a public figure. I would even go as far as to say, genuinely, the ONLY people would can say their jobs are objectively the hardest are things like vets, doctors, nurses, EMS, hospice workers... These careers are almost uniquely physically, emotionally, psychologically, spiritually, and mentally draining. There's a reason vets and doctors self exit at some of the highest rates...

@madisonblack7201 yeah I think it's almost pointless to compare job struggles though. Like let's say you work at retail and you tell me your feet hurt from standing all day. Then I go "yeah I'm a football player so my feet and whole body hurt. So my job is more physically demanding than yours." ...OK? Even if i am right, what does that conversation achieve? It just comes off dismissive of your struggles or some weird competition on who has it harder. If a streamer wants to elaborate on the struggles of a streamer, fantastic. Go for it. But in Hasan case, the moment he started comparing his struggle to other jobs, of course many will take it as out of touch or even insulting, which I doubt was Hasans intention. But it is what it is.

Agree, but nowadays they listen to tiktok not from themselves, sad Generation tbh..

It is very sweet how much faith you have in strangers on the internet... lol