Is Itzy Flopping? 

Honestly, i dont know if saying they are flopping is right. BUT their popularity is currently in a low point. They went from a HUGE group, to almost a second thought group. I am hopeful the popularity returns. I really like Itzy, a lot, but i do feel like the last few releases are not as good.

Well put together. These Queens have released nothing but great music. Even their least liked songs are good. If you chart, you aren't flopping. Period. These Queens are amazing at all they do. OT5 since debut, tattooedmidzyforlife 💕

itzy's decline in popularity was quite sudden compared to other groups which dwindle gradually (e.g twice). i wonder why is this so, but i think it's mostly attributed to their releases. their first 3 songs were so good and then we have boys like you :/

Lol I had no idea Chesire did that poorly. I thought it was one of their best songs 😭

Itzy can't flop because no matter how many toxic fanbases of other groups band together to make it seem like bad songs, there's always midzy who is just vibing in happiness and peace unbothered by the hate trains. Personally I love how many different sounds itzy tried throughout the years. When I workout I can put the entire discography on shuffle without it getting monotonous. Groups who stick to one sound are fun for like 5 songs before you have to change the group because it's all the same.

No, and stop using clickbaiting title.

Ive, New Jeans and Lesserafim are really doing well now. Give it 2-3 years and I won't be surprised if there will be doom-posting videos about them. They won't stay on top forever. That's just the order of things.

Finally, someone said it, they are not flops. They just have their high and low moments just like what every singer goes through. I feel like the main problem with itzy is not them, their music or even their management. Yes management could have done better but I bet even if they did their best there will still be those who won't be satisfied. The way I see it, Itzy just needs a song that would please both the international and korean fans at the same time. When the do songs that are a hit with the korean gp, international fans don't like it and vice versa. Sneakers did very well in Korea, it's probably one of their highest charting song but international fans hated it and seems to prefer Cheshire. I also don't think they are losing their identity like what others think because I do think they are very consistent. I don't really get why kpop fans would say that Sneakers or Cake were a concept change because those kind of have the same vibe as Icy. Although Cake kind of follows that garage pop that is trendy in kpop right not due to new jeans, it still retains itzy's core identity. Honestly, the itzy doomposting by a lot of kpop fans and youtubers are starting to get really annoying. It's even worse when these kpop fans or youtubers act as if their opinions are facts, as if they are experts when they aren't. Ive,Ne

Losing popularity can be due to many reasons. 1) New Group with new music 2) Hype fan who jump train (When general public loves them, they follow and vice versa) 3) hate post *majority of it bs and dumb af. And ganged by other fandom (toxic). Best example: recently released solo MV being spammed by bot and reported. 4) Rise of immatured and biased ktuber who *incite people to hate them* Ppl wanna this and that from itzy, all done by them, Too western sound? **Sneakers and Cake, if this not kpop coded idk. Too childish? Mitm, chesire, ringo, b2b, b.o.m. allegations of copying other...... Notice that this only applies to Itzy. When other gg done the same, they were applaud for experimental music, easy and repetitive lyrics, refreshing 🙄 really brave to try new concept, never receive major hate when changing concept. Ngl, itzy Cake, b.o.m have better message than SOME currently popular songs. I can go on and on. Hate train on Itzy is really scary. I wish, hope and pray they do not succumb to those toxic comments.

In my opinion, Itzy debuted as a 'rebel' girl group. and a 'girl power' group. This attracts a certain audience, which they clinched. However, you can only do so many 'girl power' and 'rebel' songs before it all just looks cliche and 1 dimensional. Like all of the previous successful girl groups, they need to learn how to expand out into the different genres to capture other audiences as well as show a different side to this group. Take any of the real popular girl groups of the recent past (particularly Twice and GG). These groups amassed a huge following for their ability to try different girl group genres and nailed it. And people who are fans of certain biases are hungering to see their idol try new things. That's just my two cents. It would be nice to see them perform some cutsey songs or really anything different from the 'girl power/rebel' genre.

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Itzy is one of the greatest female acts in Kpop - of every generation. But I don't expect their problems will vanish and there is a way back to glorious old times. What happened with Cheshire & Kill My Doubt will continue with Born To Be. They don't underperform, but this is the new normal. It is impossible to fulfill the requirements of domestic & international fans with one & the same track. But what is bad at a lower chart rank when you can sell over a million hard copies? More over this problem of a splitting market (which is the price to pay for going global) isn't hitting Itzy alone: The same issue is facing a lot of groups of greater and smaller reputation. TRI_BE for example is caught in the same trap: every step to make them more popular at home weakens their reputation overseas. Every contribution for their Latin, Eastern European, Islamic, Indian & US audience backfires in Korea. But: they make good sales (on their level, of course, not on Itzy's). This is a problem of Kpop as a whole industry, not the problem alone of Itzy, TRI_BE, K.A.R.T, Dreamcatcher, Pixy & what all the export orientated, world wide operating groups are. The Times of BlackPink and Twice are over. Now you have to decide as producer and agency which market you want to serve.

Babymonster is flopping

You have a weird definition of ‘elegant’. ITZY have not done an elegant concept yet, Sneakers was not elegant in anyway except for this misleading photos

The songs flop, but they don't. Period