According to old testament, there was no notion like 1+1+1=1. only careless mind can believe in it. Even, all Prophets had prayed and asked forgiveness to one God.
total ownage by Ahmad Deedat when he exposes Anis Shoroosh for doing blasphamey according to the "christians " themselves for calling Jesus Father.... haha awsome... now i know why Ahmad Deedat is the best......
in the quran, if god mentions something important, he reminds us chapter after chapter, with the bible, your core belief is based on statements which are taken out of context. the verse which talks about the trinity [which is a pretty huge thing in christianity] only occurs in one place, john 5.7 according to 32 scholars of the highest eminence, backed by 50 cooperating CHRISTIAN denominations, you have labeled this verse as a fabrication.
lets just throw away all the teachings of the fundamental teachings of the prophets before the messiah jesus. well, thats what your understanding of the trinity is. GOD IS ONE not 3 not 5 not 7 not 9 ONE just to inform you, the bulk of Christendom believe that nothing was directly written by god except for the TEN COMMANDMENTS. Now what is the first commandment? "Thou shalt have no other gods before me." JESUS (pbuh) is the promised messiah and NOT GOD
Trinity? Sure that word isn't actually there in the scripture, but followers of The Christ, .... Jesus, who is also described throughout scripture as God don't ever need it to be because God is our Good shepperd and we hear his voice because he IS truth - But, if you really want to find the three persons in the one Godhead you may easily do so, ... Anis mentioned at least one in this debate, .. here is another - Isaiah 48:16
thankyou for the reply in regards to atonement of sins, i do not believe that jesus, who i believe was blessed by god and one of his mightiest messengers sent to mankind and the messiah promised to the chilren of israel, died for my sins. sin doesnot require death, god, in all his glory can forgive sin, its in his power, he simply forgives. he doesnt need to send down a person to take up the sins for humanity, and then be able to forgive us. god is forgiving and he loves to forgive god bless
now one thing you must understand is that the quran was not open to interpretation. i can go on and on about the textual history on the quran but i dont see it fitting in a youtube chanel. tell me what sort of chapters were not included? do you have any evidence, i know of one 3 versed surah wich did not have a proper chain of memorisation, which was ommitted from the quran. moreover, this passage had nothing to do with the theological principles of islam.
Waaaaaaaaaaaay b4 Jesus, hundreds of years b4, ..... 1000 years b4 Jesus walked this earth with his disciples, the following was written down on scrolls : Psalm 2 - plz read it and Psalm 22 - plz read it!!!!
in regards to your claim that the quran has entire "chapters" whichimplys more than 1 chapter taken out, i really would like to see your evidence. it is fairly easy to just copy and paste arguments from muslim refutation sites and i myself am doing a subject on the exegesis of the quran so im quite well read (but no professional) to which the quran came into being. unlike the scribe process, it was memorised, and i urge you to see the islamic side to how it was preserved.
thankyou for your reply im sure you understand that we cant have a full length debate on the youtube comment section and that is why i have been simplifying my points. with your interpretation to sin and how we need a person to take away our sin "jesus" then what about moses, abraham, joseph, noah, enoch, jacob. im quite sure and you are sure too that they didnt believe in no trinity. they did good works and for that, they were righteous. when they sined they asked for gods forgiveness .
What necessitated a book to be reviewed other than that there some inconsistencies, new ideas that needs addition, e.t.c If that is true of the bible, then it is not from God because He never withdraws His statements.
more over, if you claim that the bible is more preserved than the quran, then your sadly mistaken, not a single revision since its compilation by the 3rd khalifah uthman ibn affan, were as, in the bible, more and more manuscripts are being found, thousands of manuscripts up to date. brother/ sister i wish i could have the honour of talking with you in person because, as we both know, youtube isnt the place to debate haha.
my sources are nothing but islamic sources. my umber one source is the quran, and be mindful, you havent read the quran until you have read it in arabic. moreover im quite read in the kitab al hadeeths (the hadith scriptures) including sahih bukhari, muslim,
moreover, with the quran. to proove its gods word, you hhave to read it. honestly, i ask you from my heart, with an unbiased heart, to read the bible and the quran. i too try to read the bible with an unbiased heart but i must say it is indeed difficult to accomplish. no doubt the bible has many good stories with a very elequent language. the same could be said on the quran . lets just read the scriptures and see for ourselves what is right
i pray that you see with your eyes and use your god given logic, god gave us a marvellous mind. he doesnt give us confusing messages which are not cler cut, god is clear , his message is clear. Since you belive in jesus, i want you to look at what he said. get your self one of those red writing bibles which highlights jesus's words for you and see what HE wants from you. i can argue all day but Jesus dint lie. he was sent by god to banuisrael to give them gods message. he is Christ ~ not god
and in reply to the bible being the complete word of god and the quran not being, lets just look at what the bible is described to be by christian scholars. it is a compilation of 66 (73 in r/c) all written by different scribes. over 15 revisions have been made to cypher out what isnt gods words (according to scholars). the quran, as i believe is the verbatim word of god which was sent down. my problem with christianity is only with the divinity of christ, god simply cannot become human.
i plead to my christian bretheren to read their bibles because you will find that your doctrine is based upon unambigous statements rather than clear cut instructions. God is one, not 3 jesus is the "son" of god in the sense that he was one of the mightiest messengers of the all mighty, and being the promised messiah But he is not the begotten son of god god does not beget now please, go back to your scriptures and believe in this one, fundamental belief that has been stressed for millennia
