Ae ranei e tika ana te whakatau, ko Kingi Tuheitia te kingi Maori o te motu? Hei ta David Rankin o Ngapuhi, ehara a Kingi Tuheitia i te Kingi Maori o te motu whanui, no reira, kua tuku tono ia ki te roopu whakamana i Te Tiriti o Waitangi.
The Kingi movement and those Maori that are supporting it, are being hugely disrespectful of their Chiefs who either signed the Treaty in 1840 or ratified it at kohimarama in 1860. Moari need to read the 1860 transcripts of those Cheifs to understand exactly how the felt about the Kingi movement and how they felt the treaty was improving the lives and wellbeing of Maori under one law with the "Queen above" and "Chiefs below", but with Maori and Pakeha as equal .
My family are a part of the “Kingitanga Movement” via my whanau bloodline in Te Kuiti, our family house is next to To Kanganuianoho Marae! Many stories have been handed down to our family over the years explaining why it “The Kingitanga Movement” was needed and how it is passed a long and expectations of family members roles etc! Beautiful stories were shared amongst the family, it was great to learn of I tell you what! Pai to rā koutou. ❤🥂
My beloved and benevolent King he who descends from the house of the Gods and Aristocratic lineages of this country I salute you! May God bless you and keep you from harm. I know this is a hard time for you, it has been foretold but fear not!! this is only to test you for you have many challenges to face, this is only a chip of what is to come. This world of ours is going through a huge shift and big changes are about to happen.... But the mantle of the Kingitanga will always remain.
@Tamati M - Actually you are incorrect, we Waikato did not want it to carry on, that choice was made by the Rangatira of every other tribe that attended in 2007. check your facts instead of stating rubbish
I actually heard that Tainui were debating who should take the place of Te Ata and wouldn't hurry up and decide, so one iwi was gonna take over if couldn't make a decision, but Tainui said kao and decided on Tuheitia otherwise it would of meant that the Kingitanga would leave Ngaruawahia to another iwi. Which, it actually can...
@@tekaha7152 tēnā piiki rukahu. Once THAT tribe (we all know who they are) demanded the king title every other iwi thought and said NO. How arrogant, that is not the Maori way
In terms of kingitanga today Waikato where aware of the issues that were to come because of how Tueitia was appointed and he wasn’t chosen by the hapu's, it was the Taumata and they went against the Queen's wishes and that was because her choice was consider inappropriate in terms of the korero that was handed down apparently.
Alice stop trash talking. Yeah kingitanga was about kotahitanga, or solidarity . A Maori king wasn't appointed to assume authority over all the other tribes but to provide a unified stance to oppose the loss of Maori lands due to the settlers everincreasing lust for Maori land. And yup Alice u are right the cheifs would have been welcoming and excited about the prospects British settlement would have brought. But lets not be naive here, the English already had a tricky little plan up their
Sleeves. What they didn't bet on was that the natives would put up a hell of a fight. But to imply that how British invaded was somehow not the case given that that is what happened elsewhere around the world to other indigenous populations. How do you differentiate that?
In today's generation it's about arrogance and Rankin is and arrogant brat!!! King Potatau signed He Whakaputanga in 1837 even though Potatau wasn't king at that time when he was crowned I believe it brought the northern and southern hapu's together under Kotahitanga to continue the fight against the invaders
Yes you're right and that's generally the way it was before the Treaty was signed, which gave every Moari the same rights, privileges, and "obligations" as every other British subject, It was allowing Moari to be unique individuals with individual rights to buy and sell their property as they wished that started this Kingi movement, because those Moari who held power over the tribe and its members saw their power diminishing in favour of individual rights under British law .
Nice word ..Invaders.. if you study history objectively you'll find the Northern Chiefs, in spite of their so called declaration of independence, ether signed the treaty in 1840 believing it was good thing, or ratified it in 1860 at kohimarama also as a good thing that had brought prosperity and well-being to Maori, and ratified the Queen as Sovereign over New Zealand with Maori Chiefs below, and Pakeha and Maori as equal under the law. They didn't view it as a partnership either.
I acknowledge the movement but I don't consider Tuheitia the Maori King - speaker of all Iwi. Our understanding is that he represents all Maori. I think there's much ambiguity that surrounds Tuheitia's title and his role. As much is the same with most things that pertain to Maori - that there is no clear understanding which is why 170 years on, there is still much debate that surrounds the Treaty of Waitangi
@@kiaclarke3406 not all of it is evil, to say that would be to say all birds can fly. My mother is the bloodline of Robert the Bruce, her Maori heritage she is a direct descendant of Mananui Teheuheu and Te Wharerangi and Te Pehi Turoa but my father is a fullblood born in the 1950s, as I guess are you.
No Nga Puhi I know, ever bent knee to a king. Being that I am also of Tuwharetoa my allegiance would stay the tohunga line of Mananui Teheuheu. That is all
@@suribrodestroy7773 da hell you talking about son. ill look it up but I know my whakapapa back to Waimirirangi..there are no Ngapuhi slaves in my lineage. And lets be clear I am TeRarawa/Ngapuhi.. 1700s pfftt Waimirirangi back from me is 15 generations...
@@suribrodestroy7773 you seem to know some shit about Tainui that I don't according to the Pakeha Tainui landed some 8/900 years ago. My waka.... Ngatokimatawhaorua arrived pre Tainui if oral traditions hold weight. so your 300 years story seems a little...well little.
I went to Te Arikinui Te Atairangikaahu’s tangi. We got there at 6am but didn’t get on til 6pm as every ngapuhi Tom dick and harry spoke, pretty much saying “give the kingitanga to us”. From that moment every other tribe said NO, don’t give it to them, te whakahihi ke hoki. Now you contrast that with tuwhangai, telling tainui to keep quiet when deliberating Korokis successor. The tribes all unanimously voted that Te ATA would be queen and the motu kept the taonga in tainui. Tainui are only kaitiaki, the motu decides not some whakahihi who say we give it to us.
alice i here hate in you, you must drop this hate.. my tipuna tane was TE KERE NGATAIERUA of the first Kingitanga.. if you want to do some real work for the people open your hart an listen to what is happning around you.. Papatuanuku is hurting there are other ways if you like history so much research Nikola Tesla an you will see power was simple an free without hurting PAPATUANUKU.. but time has come we will all see soon..
The kingitanga movement should have ended once the Queen had passed but no Waikato wanted to keep it, so good job things will only get worst for them and they have, in the old days Waikato were well respected with great Mana under the leadership of Potatau right down to the Queen
If NZ ever retires the Monarch of The UK. I would like to see The Maori King to be proclaimed King of Aotearoa. The movement need to get moving and connect with the people of the nation as a uniting factor.
Kingitanga is one of the most powerful Maori institutions alongside the Ratana movement, but all including the King do not understand how powerful he is, When he stood in support the Maori Party, he cut off all other Maori who were numerous in numbers who supported other political parties. Kingitanga draws our tribes and leaders together to korero and debate issues during which solutions can be created
Kingi Tueitia is kingitanga if you turn your back on him you turn your back on kingitanga. If David Rankin wishes to turn his back on kingitanga movement and all it stands for let him
Oh so if you people can prove that he can whakapapa to the Te Wherowhero whanau l will be the FIRST to apologize to ALL. Piki Paki is Tuheitias mother. There is no PAKI that can DNA to the Te Wherowhero whanau. I no Piki use to talk to my mother but that's it. TALK ONLY. Get your facts RIGHT before you all believe your own LIES.
I don't support this Hatana If there has to be a Maori King then I think the people should decide who they want.I don't see the relevance in it Just a big waste of our money funny how his annual spending has tripled compared to his mum GET RID OF THEM THEY ARE STEALING OUR MONEY
What rubbish.. the king movement was established as a direct challenge to the Queens Authority and sovereignty over New Zealand and it peoples. Read the transcripts of the Chiefs' speeches at kohimarama in 1860 and you'll start to understand that over 90% of the Chiefs who attended supported the Treaty with the Queen as Sovereign over New Zealand and its peoples (including Moari) and their oppositions to the King Movement and warnings that it would bring harm to Maori. ,
get over yourselves.. the King movement was established as a direct challenge to Queens Authority and sovereignty over New Zealand and it peoples, because those Maori were experiencing diminishing power over their tribes and its peoples, who now had equal rights as British subjects to buy and sell their own property as they saw fit, without the chiefs permission to do so. They saw British governance & law in action how it was good for Maori but not for the Chiefs, and wanted to take back power
@FQuee that would defeat the whole purpose of the Kingitanga. it was established to unite Maori. the Kingitanga is for tribes that wish to support it. if you don't want him to be your King then he's not your King. Waikato are merely the custodians of the Kingship. they dont have a say whos the next Ariki, its up to the rest of the tribes.. NgaPuhi had there chance (and NgatiPorou had theirs historically, with Te Kani a Takirau). if this David Rankin was so worried,
Te Heuheu (Tuwharetoa) was also offered but refused saying that his mana as an ariki was greater than it would be as a king. Takarangi(Whanganui) was there as was Te Hapuku (Kahungunu)
Wake up idiot the maori cheifs signed the treaty based on individual rite as well as collective stupid 😅 lmao u the pakeha with Ur stupid siut. Trying to look important when u just a wolf
It was also a known fact that their tohunga’s were one of the most feared, but that has slowly diminished because of their arrogance towards tikanga, if they continue down the path they are going kingitanga will end………….
