Is League of Legends Bad? - Talking with Foxdrop & Vertigal 

0:45 - Can one person solo carry in season 8? 4:00 - Negative aspects are more often vocalized 6:05 - Jungle difference last few years 8:29 - Is League dying? 14:08 - Riot doesn't watch PBE for balance input 15:22 - Should the new champ be locked to normal one week before it's allowed in ranked? 19:54 - Should Riot take input from OTPs? 24:19 - Winratios 26:08 - Too many balance changes? 32:20 - How should Riot get input on the state of the game? 45:20 - Foxdrop's Tinfoil Conspiracy Theory 50:32 - Assassins 52:52 - Voice Chat 1:00:35 - The Best & Worst Decision Riot Has Made 1:08:34 - Is Season 8 going to be a good or bad year for League of Legends?

This video was recorded a bit over a month ago, before the insanity that's been going on the recent patches, which is why we're not talking about that in the video. Hope you liked the video & that the video format is enjoyable :) Have a nice weekend!

listened to this in gym. really enjoyed it. you should definitely do more. doesnt even have to be league related

WAS WONDERING WHEN IYOU AGAIN UPLOAD ONE OF THESE. GOOD TO HAVE YOU BACK.

Really nice listening to the 3 of you, and even now after years that I discovered you I still think you're not getting the attention and exposure you deserve. I hope you're doing good and I hope we see similar videos or content or streams from you. :)

I must admit, I am losing interest more and more in league because of some reasons: 1. SR rounds are usually too long if you just have 2 hours or less to play or just want to play a quick few rounds. Especially with picks and bans it can take up to 1 hour for just one game. Therefore I mainly play ARAM these days, because I can squeeze in like 3-5 games in the span of 2 hours. I played a lot of Dominion and Rotating Game Modes because I got to pick my own champ there and get some quick rounds in. Not everyone is a student, a streamer or workless and can put in 5-10 hours a day. 2. The constant and often random balance changes to keep the game alive or rather forcing players to play something different every few weeks. I don't want to relearn the game every few weeks and especially in this season you have a different game every 2 weeks because Riot has no idea what real balancing is. Back in the day they tried to bring some real balance to the game (but often failed) but these days it's just bullshit balancing to keep the game fresh. If you play other games in your limited free time besides working and come back to league a few months later you will often not recognize the game anymore in terms of changes. Nobody has time to keep up with their bullshit policy of random changes. Oh and let's also not forget that they love to release more and more broken champs: Kasia, Zoe, Rakan, Camille and reworked champs like Irelia. Those champs are so fucking overloaded and often broken that you won't have any fun playing against them and they are already too many to ban them all. 3. The (current) meta: Let me say first that I am an ADC player, started playing in season 2. This recent meta is a fucking DISGRACE and a slap in the face of all ADC mains out there. Riot just alienated a whole fucking role and 20% of their playerbase. They overnerfed EVERYTHING about ADCs: Base stats are shit, items got worse and more expensive, build paths are ruined and even the runes are all useless because they nerfed them over and over and over again. Together with the broken bruisers and other bronze champs like Vlad or Brand they took over botlane, also because they have broken runes like Conquerer. BuT mAh DiVeRSitY!!! Never read such a bullshit, it's actually less diverse now because ranged dps carries have no place on the Rift anymore. Feels like Riot listened to reddit's unnecessary crying about ADCs but acted like 8 months too late when they were no problem at all. Instead supports should have gotten a slap on the fingers because of their broken kits and items. I think it will just take one or two more fuck ups of Riot's part like the recent ADC disaster and the game is gone for good. Wonder how many people left after the ADC catastrophy...

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1:17:10 Uzi is only able to 1v9 because his entire team knows he is the best player, and plays around him well, its not as much of a solo carry as a team carry. They set him up to 1v9, without that setup it would be so much harder for him to succeed. Saying that, I do recognize that Uzi is an amazing player and that 1v9 with a setup is hard to do in and of itself. But people do not give his team enough credit, they think that it is just Uzi being insane. Like his team sacrifices cs to put him ahead, they pick supportive champions so he can carry, they pick roaming champions to get him ahead early. Things like this go unnoticed and its a shame.

I have the feeling, that in league adcs who are strictly better than the enemy team and junglers have the best odds of carrying 1v9 But champions who, back in the day, were able to completely shoulder their team and win the game, have been changed so much, that it became almost impossible. I remember after the armor pen nerfs and the zed mini rework I had a game where I went 14/0 early, but my team didn't do anything. My final stats were 16/14 or smthn, because I was unable to splitpush, and the enemy adcs lifesteal outsustained my burst. I was so frustrated I wanted to cry. And that is a harsh lesson, that camps you are used to carry with suddenly can't live up to the same strength. And honestly it sucked, because I had invested almost a year of league into learning to play zed and suddenly if the game went on for more than 35 mins I was unable to win it by myself.

For me season 8 feels like your losses feel a lot worse this season than they used to because it always feels like you're losing to some cheese like a weird melee bot Lane who got crushed because no one knows how to play against it or one of the juggernauts gets fed or maybe a champion like brand and Vladimir get through so you're having to put so much pressure on them because you know if you give them an inch and they'll just run the game I just feel like they're too many picks that are crazy viable

I quit with league 7 months ago and started playing Granblue Fantasy, I feel pretty far from this bland game whose only goal seems to be to frustrate and annoy you ... I honestly do not know what I saw in this game, if it was fun with the friends or compete for uploading my elo. the point is the company of this game does not show anything original, every champion \ rework done is something you already have in the game and MAINLY! they do not know how to do any decent balancing.

Would you consider runes reforged a contender for best things riot has done?

Every champ has to get op otherwise it's unfair

What would be your opinion on if Riot before they did a balance change they got opinions on people from lower elo, mid elo, high elo, and pros? The change won't satisfy all of them, but at least you can see where everyone is coming from and try to adjust somethings to how it would affect that specific elo. It is an interesting thought, because most of Riot's changes affect high elo and Pros. So it leaves lower elo in a state where something is completely broken, but it doesn't see play in high elo. Or something is complete shit, that is god in high elo. I get that they should balance around pros because they play the game for a living. But the majority of the player base is in low elo. Idk though thats just my opinion, they do make some changes to accommodate low elo players, but not enough to make a difference. For instance, assassins and bruisers are op in low elo, yet we see barely any assassins in high elo. That is probably due to the game knowledge difference between players and how to play around these assassins. But at the same time, champions like Talon are broken in all elos low-high.

I have a question Azoh. How the fuck has your hair grown so fucking fast? I'm growing my hair out atm and it's taking ages.

Honestly, I personally love this meta BECAUSE there IS no meta, and solo carrying is possible in season 8 and I notice that it's easier than other patches, also snowballing is easy if you play correctly imo