Is Mam Tor The Prehistoric Capital of the Midlands?

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@susanfletcher8041 Год назад

Well I’ve lived in Derbyshire my whole life and never knew mam tor was a hill fort. Fascinating stuff.

@royfearn4345 Год назад

To be honest, it is so local to me, I have never noticed the defences even though I've been up there many times. It's nowhere near as obvious as Maiden Castle, which I've also visited fairly often.

@astralchimp Год назад

Manchester used to be called Mamchester..the tit shaped fort

@Templeborough Год назад

Also lived in or near Derbyshire much of my life and I always assumed it was but did not know why. The Ancient Paths by Graham Robb might be helpful, if a little wild and whacky!

@calum5975 Год назад

@@astralchimpYep! Mamucastra was the Latin name for it (in turn derived from the Celtic name). Mamu is a cognate with Mum. Mums have boobs, so mam meant boob in the Celtic language of the area.

@Wildernessoutside Год назад

@@calum5975 I always new mam tor as the mother hill

@Whatmowthelawn Год назад

Great job on the videos dude. If you could find out anything on the Abergwesyn Common I'd be in your debt. It's a vast area of wilderness that stretches between Llyn Brianne and the Elan reservoirs. Super interesting, rarely visited site, chocked full of cairns and large standing stones that there is little to no information about anywhere. There's a massive white (I think quartz) stone that overlooks the Garreg Ddu reservoir that's particularly impressive.

@redking5788 Год назад

Totally sheepwrecked unfortunately. One day the sheep will be gone and it can recover

@basilbrushbooshieboosh5302 Год назад

Excellent Pete, Thanks. Yes, yours and my ancestors tilled that soil, moved that rock to hedge, and bedded down to await the coming day. It's awesome to think on that, and belittling in the expanse and march of time. Your vids are great man. Glad I've followed you for so many years. You're a gem. Michael

@marcbernard1744 Год назад

I find the music you use in your videos to be both inspiring and haunting. I’m glad I had the time this morning to watch this. Always a ton of information! Love all your channels and videos

@richardhobson5995 Год назад

Cracking video! The "Mother " is a special place for me ,after leaving school I spent several years working in its shadow (Blue John Caverns). I've been lucky to have seen her in all weather's, I've lost count of the number of sheep I've seen walking across its face and the number of times the old road has been repaired!

@alastairbrewster4274 Год назад

Absolutely excellent editing and story telling , this is so professional

@ronalddevine9587 Год назад

This was so educational. Britain has such a rich and diverse history. She's small but mighty. From New England, thank you.

@ragwortrattle8798 Год назад

You might like to read The Mabinogion' first written in the 13th century. It'll tell you all about Britain, The Island of the Mighty,the Best of Islands. Fascinating stories.

@smiler3418 4 месяца назад

Thank you from Birmingham England

@deecooper1567 Год назад

Such beautiful country & full of history. 👵🏻👩‍🌾❣️

@miamidolphinsfan Год назад

THANK YOU PETE!!!!!! I have missed rhese kid of amazing stories for a while......they are so very special !!!!!!!

@marylavine2632 Год назад

The scenes and narrative makes one think of history, what could have taken place. I would love to visit a hill fort, amazing what it took to build up.

@Mazalinda Год назад

I remember walking Mam Tor as part of a geography field trip. Aching legs, the cold. We were wearing school uniform so hardly correctly garbed for such an exercise. I wish I had your commentary then, I would have found the history compelling, but all I remember now is “millstone grit”.

@steverobinson3198 Год назад

Great video Pete, as always. Love your passion for our history 👋👍

@yorkshireaquatics9537 Год назад

Hi Pete great video as always. Have you been to "Castle Hill" in Almondbury, Huddersfield? It's a brilliant site to have a walk around and I believe a bronze age arrow head has been found along with a lot more iron age artifacts. Not too long a drive from your end either 😊.

@leod-sigefast Год назад

Being from Manchester, I've visited Mam Tor over my Peak District hikes 'career', probably 2010. It actually took my Spanish girlfriend to get me into hiking the wonderful landscapes on my very doorstep! She was into walks and hikes - including doing the Camino de Santiago - and had done a few Peak District walks on her own before I knew her, including Edale. She also had books from the famous walks writer Wainwright (I believe he was called?). How could I resist?! The walk through Castleton to get to Mam Tor is also quite magical, including the old Castle ruins. I remember Mam Tor being quite busy but not anything to stress about. As it was about August, I do however remember the top being absolutely swarming with flying ants which prevent us from stopping to enjoy the scene/have a bit of lunch. But a pleasant hike anyone can enjoy, as it is on the easier side of Peak District walks. It doesn't surprise me it might have been a Celtic Hill Fort and settlement. The views over the surrounding area are fantastic and you also have the mines nearby for minerals.

@CharlesEros1 Год назад

Great comment! 😊

@adriansmith6993 Год назад

Such beautiful countryside and interesting history. Thanks! ❤

@danielshaolin6053 Год назад

What a strange coincidence… I was literally day dreaming today about Mam Tor, and wondering what role the hill fort played in the ancient times! Wondering about the significance of this location for the Brigantes and other tribes. Then I came across your video! Great stuff!

@bill-2018 Год назад

I thought I was going to see Mam Tor not everywhere else. When I was younger and fitter I tried to go up the man made defensive earthwork up to Mam Tor. It was a tough climb and certainly would be hard to attack from this side. I've visited quite a few hillforts and barrows both in Derbyshire, Arbor Low, Minninglow, Stanton Moor and Scotland including the isle of Mousa broch, Camster cairns and Cairnpapple and wheelhouses on Skara Brae and Jarlshof to name just a few. A few standing stones as well. I'd like to see some Pictish ones.

@michaelhindley4211 Год назад

A masterful report. I've been up Mam Tor many times and I never realised how significant it is. I used to have to visit a company in Wilmslow and my favourite way to get there was from the other side of Mam Tor near where there is a huge landslip through country roads to a little village called Pott Shrigley and on from there. A very peaceful and scenic way to get from the Don Valley to Wilmslow.

@iasnaia-poliana Год назад

Great stuff. I love the fact that you love your land.

@charleswilliams1966 Год назад

British Isles are an archeological gold mine. That’s rugged country and you make it look like a blast. Even when I was your age I don’t know if I could’ve kept up with you and your father in some of your other videos.

@redking5788 Год назад

It used to be little farmsteads with living communities but not so long ago the peasants were driven off and chaaed abroad or to the cities so that the rich landlords could produce wool. They are still doing it today even though the wool is not in demand

@paulking54 Год назад

Big UP Derbyshire!!! I'm a Chesterfield lad originally. Really enjoyable video. I didn't know there was a hillfort on the mothers teet either.

@user-McGiver Год назад

the bronze that made the ''Mediterranean bronze age'' was made with tin from southern England and copper from Cyprus.... [there's a kickstart for a video right here!...]

@massonman9099 Год назад

some amazing aerial views of hill forts. Didn't know that about Breedon on the Hill. As a child I could faintly see it in the distance from my bedroom window and thrilled about the old legend of the devil and the church!

@vaunmalone3064 Год назад

Great drone footage Pete! I'd love to do all the ancient sites in these islands! I'll put it on my bucket list.

@vestanorman176 Год назад

So much history all around us. We all live on previously owned land.

@Dannysince1985 Год назад

Love this place, walked it many a times. Interesting fact - Mam Tor translates as 'Hill hill' as both words mean hill. There's an old episode of QI where Steven is talking about it.

@Smeghead1981 Год назад

I can see Mam Tor from my window right now, did a walk from Edale on Saturday. Never knew you were from my neck of the woods.

@KernowekTim Год назад

Awesome place. I'd like you do do a cover of Hereford Beacon, Iron Age Hill-Fort at Malvern, Pete, if you haven't already. Spectacular place with stunning panorama. I've found two Dobunnic full-staters in the fields near it, on one of my permissions. One stater is really crisp.

@BenSHammonds Год назад

is certainly beautiful there, would love to visit the Peak District one day

@jasonwoods3711 Год назад

What many don't know, knowledge lost in time , is that the Midlands around 9000bc was mainly under water, tidal waters too. When the Medi lake turned by the force of nature into the Mediterranean ocean, the Atlantic ocean dropped a little and so did tidal rivers revealing nourished lands. Befor the Romans came , the Trent River was over 5 miles wide and ships sailed down the river Tame ( now only 10ft wide in places ), and anchored up just below Atherstone Castle house... I've always found it fascinating that if the Trent barrier was to fail in Liverpool then most of East Staffordshire and the West Midlands would be under water in less than a day ! Hence hill forts maybe ...

@joejoejoejoejoejoe4391 Год назад

About 1,000 years before Dogerland was flooded?

@1258-Eckhart Год назад

@@joejoejoejoejoejoe4391 Yeah, and even Lindsey and the Fens are 20 - 50 metres above Dogger. I've never seen this River Trent theory. If it's 8 km wide, it's not a river any more, but part of the North Sea.

@jasonwoods3711 Год назад

Il agree to disagree on the dates but yes when the Dogerland islands got tsunami-ed and flattened !

@anonUK Год назад

Liverpool? The Trent? I think it's pretty well known what river Liverpool is on.

@jasonwoods3711 Год назад

@@1258-Eckhart in Retford, If you dig more than 18ft you get running water off the Trent.

@markedis5902 Год назад

Follow a lay line from historic site to site to site. That might be fun?

@gwynwilliams4222 Год назад

Mam tor translated to mothers roof in English we still use the word tor today in Wales

@morkusmorkus6040 Год назад

I think you'll find Mam Tor means "Mother Hill".

@alanjones4622 Год назад

It is great to bring back a few memories of hard days out on these particular hills. I have run over Mam Tor many times in the course of taking part in the Edal Skyline fell race and other races that crossed this area. This stretch now has paths made of paving flags salvaged from the old cotton mills and terraced houses that existed on either side of the Peak District. For many years it was a muddy trail after wet weather. I will never go back again being no longer fit enough at my age and living more than a thousand miles further south. Still, I have my reminiscences o look back on.

@andyhall1297 Год назад

Walked it 3 times and never realised it was a hill fort wow!

@rodmarker2071 Год назад

I did geology at Sheffield Uni in 1972 - was in the peak district many times , took my 1st LSD trip on Mam Tor with my GF and some mates it was great - from some sides it looks like the edge of a Pyramid, was a great trip. UK has some great geology but I left after Brexit and now live in the Alps. Peak District is gods country .

@patmancrowley8509 Год назад

I wonder just how much of the surrounding valleys and hills were covered with trees way back when.

@jackx4311 Год назад

The valleys were, but not the hills. If you travel around the Peak District, you can see this pattern. The hilltops are too cold and the topsoil too thin for trees to thrive. That was another reason for building hill forts, not just in the Peak District, but as far south as Wiltshire and Somerset; the lack of trees on the top meant enemies could be seen coming a long way off. It's also the reason that the Berkshire Rideway was such a heavily used route for travel and trade in ancient times. The valleys were full of forests, where ambushes were easy; travelling along the ridges meant nobody could sneak up on you. HTH

@patmancrowley8509 Год назад

@@jackx4311 Thanks for the information. Always fascinating!

@AnyFuleKnoThat Год назад

In the early 60's we lived near Badbury Rings, Dorset. My mother worked for Lord Bankes who owned Kingston Lacy, and much of the surrounding land, including Badbury Rings. There was an avenue of Beech trees along the B3082 that William J Bankes planted in 1835, and I was told that he placed a coin under each of the 731 Beeches, sadly they were given the chop by the National Trust after they took over the estate and lands. What a amazing place Mam Tor is, great views from there. We have a few Tor's where I live -- Dartmoor 😊 I really enjoyed your video, Thank you 👍

@josephfredbill Год назад

Yep. I live not far from there - there are always sodden clouds around here ;-)

@DextraVisual Год назад

I'm really liking these explore, journey videos you are doing. When you show the embarkation, personal interactions and site discovery with the accompanying information you really take us with you. When I am unable to get more time off work and visit heritage sites, I just watch your videos and go on a virtual trip. Love it.

@grahamwatkins5076 Год назад

The hill fort known as Credenhill Camp is the second largest in Britain and listed as a monument. This monument is scheduled under the Ancient Monuments and Archaeological Areas Act 1979 as amended as it appears to the Secretary of State to be of national importance. Just outside of Hereford it is worth a look!

@cecileroy557 Год назад

Excellent, as always! Thanks for giving us comparative timeline as to when people first lived on the Tor - First Kingdom Egypt & the Sea People REALLY got my attention - wow!!!

@derrydude5874 Год назад

Interesting video! Please do some videos in Ireland! Uisneach, Hill of Tara, and Loughcrew are amazing! Keep up the good work 😎

@deborahdanhauer8525 Год назад

That’s just so cool! Even more so because nothing is known about it other than it’s there.❤️🤗🐝

@carausiuscaesar5672 Год назад

Och have ye been tae Ardunie Roman Signal Station in Scotland?🏴󠁧󠁢󠁳󠁣󠁴󠁿

@r2dadizubz Год назад

Top quality vid in every way

@farrier2708 Год назад

It should be remembered that during the bronze age the high places would have been the only areas devoid of trees. Those lush valleys you describe, would have been covered in the proverbial "Wild Wood", populated by carnivorous predators such as wolf. Not a nice place to spend the night.

@PeteKellyHistory Год назад

It’s a debated point as far as I’m aware. A number of scholars I’ve read suggest the wild wood was largely hacked down as early as the Neolithic.

@philipsmeeton Год назад

There must have been hundreds of small protected settlements in the agriculturally rich lowlands. I visited a couple of these close to Nottingham. the ditches still clearly visible, also marked on ordnance survey maps. There were so many thorn bushes that I speculated that thorn hedges could have been part of the defences and that perhaps they were places to hide livestock in times of cattle raiding. One site being well hidden and not visible from a distance. These were rich cultures with large populations.

@samwill7259 Год назад

The chances in the prehistoric or early bronze ages of some random gang of bastards wandering out of the wilds and stabbing your entire family after burning your house down was often very low. But it was never entirely zero. I'd choose to live behind walls too, even if it did lead to the terrible, inhuman invention of feudalism

@memofromessex Год назад

I was just looking at this walk, I did it back during COVID times - when you could without annoying Derbyshire Police! I did other longer walks when you weren't supposed to :p

@r2dadizubz Год назад

CONVID!

@SEKreiver Год назад

Quality clip! A good example of what I call the 'pre-Hallstatt Celtic Period' in Britain. I bet the builders spoke Q-Celtic.

@m.m9973 Год назад

Absolutely beautiful. Thank you for sharing.

@SimonWillig Год назад

I can relate to this very much. Always loved these places where there's not much left but a few ruined walls or less. Gives room to imagination. Wonderful music as well, as always 😊

@Trpr88 Год назад

Some criticism, if you will? I think you switch up the music too frequently and you don’t get a sense of the mood before it’s over. I also thought you showed too much of the site before you actually climbed up there, ruining a little suspense and I feel I’ve already seen it when you do. Love your narrating voice, however.

@alexanderguesthistorical7842 Год назад

Great video! I'll be researching Mam Tor for sure. Fantastic to see that shot of Torhouseekie stone circle, I know it very well! Did you do a video on it?

@jamesrussell7760 Год назад

Just contemplating the enormous effort to construct those circular ramparts is mind boggling. Any archeological digs at Mam Tor looking for artifacts such as axes , arrow heads and the like?

@peterfrance702 Год назад

Wonderful Mam Tor! Been there a hundred times.😀

@oldmanfromscenetwentyfour8164 Год назад

The Shivering Mountain is a very Tolkienesque name.

@rocktapperrobin9372 Год назад

it’s called that because the aouthern side is subject to frequent landslips, they’ve given up repairing the road that runs across this slope

@Traveler13 Год назад

Loved this, right up my street

@danielshaolin6053 Год назад

You forgot to include the Brigantian goddess idol which is located inside the museum in Castleton. Perhaps the hill fort of Mam Tor was a site dedicated to the goddess Brigantia?

@MauriceTarantulas Год назад

Gonna go to the hillfort of the Ordovices soon!

@OffRampTourist Год назад

Another evocative and informative video. The music felt appropriate to the time and place while also feeling very Appalachian. Enjoyed that too.

@briancooper562 Год назад

This area has many sources of useful and decorative objects. Lead, Blue John (hydrocarbon stained fluorite semi precious gem), fluorspar (Calcium Fluoride CaF2) a heat effected form of calcium related to ground faulting and escape of hot mantle fluids (gas and liquid) hence the lead and some silver in the Peak district up lift. The hydrocarbons can be found in the tar pits in the area above the Winnats Pass

@bill-2018 Год назад

Fascinating to think that maybe your long lost ancestors could have lived here.

@ShaneOFearghail Год назад

Great video. Hill forts have always been a fascination of mine since childhood. The name "Mam" is interesting. In Ireland, you have the Maamturks (Maum Tuirc), which is pronounced the same. In Scotland, you also have Meall Tuirc. en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Maumturks

@MusicMike939 Год назад

Exeter. The pbs documentary is really old and blurry.

@larrywave Год назад

Finns are the same with our hillforts

@winstonsmithsoul Год назад

It’s interesting the historic places trust seems more interested in others history, not our own. Maybe they could pick one hill fort and rebuild it from the ruins of the materials onsite.

@postictal7846 Год назад

Towers of Saints is going to ring a bell the next time I'm in Hovenweep National Monument. Your Hillforts are massive!

@AisforAtheist Год назад

Be warned: the devil's arse is bad for your hair.

@sjaakmcd1804 Год назад

Cheers Pete, awesome as usual. I was looking at all the mounds (spoil heaps) from all the industry over 3000 years

@marrickvillian Год назад

Time to build a hill fort.

@mishapurser4439 Год назад

Incredible place, but High Peak is northern really. Mam Tor is too far north to have been a Midlands capital.

@Mezman999 Год назад

North Midlands and certainly never a capital of anything.

@carausiuscaesar5672 Год назад

Och aye looks braw but i go only if there be a Greggs en route.

@garrettberna1331 Год назад

Great video! Keep up the awesome content.

@theresbob8878 Год назад

Never understood why they cut themselves off from water. As an old hunter...disadvantage goes to the guy uphill...he's a silhouette for the lower observer/shooter.

@woodyw9798 Год назад

Exactly! I dont believe these sites were for permanent occupation for that very reason. They were defensive positions which the community could retreat to when they became threatened and/or possibly sites of spiritual purpose.

@theresbob8878 Год назад

@@woodyw9798 Agreed...except water becomes even more important unless there is something in the site that shows they could store food and water,

@woodyw9798 Год назад

@@theresbob8878 for long term siege yes but then the agressor would face the same problem.

@morkusmorkus6040 Год назад

Tons of advantages and one disadvantage which is super easy to overcome even in the bronze age. Not hard to make a cistern.

@qwertyuiopgarth Год назад

I would like to see a series that goes from the oldest ancient site in Britain to the most recent 'will become an ancient site' and how the knowledge of each site is connected. Including sites that are not yet ancient sites, talking about why people should remember these sites in the year 4444, and so on.

@badcampa2641 Год назад

That would keep him fairly busy

@qwertyuiopgarth Год назад

@@badcampa2641 More busy is more great videos for us! And since it would be a big project it will be fine if it takes him twenty years to 'complete'.

@tam19711 Год назад

So much for mam tor you shown more of other places instead!!😮

@christaylor5332 Год назад

Great video as usual! It’s about time I went up there again. Cracking descended from Odin cap by the way

@margo3367 Год назад

So evocative. Your storytelling is par excellence.

@Syzygy77 Год назад

The history of Britain is so fascinating.

@paulm5443 Год назад

Walked the mam tor ridge several times with my young children. From memory; Mam tor, Hollins cross, Back tor. Then down into the valley and up along the edge of Kinder Scout. Happy days.

@suecondon1685 Год назад

When I was about 14, my Dad stopped off at Cadbury Castle on the way to our holiday. It was quite early, with an eerie drifting mist. It felt very mystical, walking up through the surrounding trees and getting to the top for the beautiful view. Hill forts are so special. The past haunts these places. Mam Tor is certainly an awesome place. I love your channel, and your brother's 😊

@pcka12 Год назад

These are 'the North Midlands', Birmingham being furthest from the sea is the centre of 'The Midlands'

@michaelbardill5310 Год назад

I used to work for Trent & Peak Archaeology Trust, on behalf of the Peak Park Authority. We did several small scale surveys and excavations........truly an amazing place.

@greywanderer5935 Год назад

Nice! I live very close to Breedon on the Hill!

@lightfootpathfinder8218 Год назад

I went up mam tor two days ago with my son. Its certainly impressive as a feature and does have a commanding feeling about it. I walked up shirtless and came down in a hoodie and mack ....the weather changed at the drop of a hat

@Paul-eb4jp Год назад

I never really thought of it as the Midlands, I live in Stockport and consider it local, good video though.

@jackx4311 Год назад

Well, where is it, then? It's not the North country, nor Southern England - so it must be in the Midlands, or, to be more specific, the North Midlands.

@Paul-eb4jp Год назад

@@jackx4311 it's a 15 minute drive from my house and I live in the North West.

@Artifartibiz Год назад

I have no idea why? ….. but there’s always a …. Feeling, for how our ancients would have, and where have, hidden, fortified places. You can see them from motorways, and note them in your mind… in modern days, with modern threats … you think, where? 😊 new subscriber ! Beautifully done! 😊

@abitoffcenter383 Год назад

Yeah, the reality of our individual lives is rather harsh. 99.99% of the people that watch this video will have been forgotten within a generation or two of their death. Our individual lives are nothing more than a flash in a pan. As someone who has more days behind me than in front of me. I've gotten to the point where my only fear is being forgotten. Dying is easy, I've already done it once. My kids are responsible productive adults starting their own families. So for the most part, my job as a Father and Daddy is done. Yes, they're different things. Imho (Honestly guys, it's never done. Those "jobs" aren't done until you exhale your last breath!! Welcome to being a man.) So once you've had the opportunity to clear your mind a bit. You WILL, I promise, begin to think about how you'll be remembered and how long you'll be remembered. I'm not going to lie to ya guys, It's a gut punch!! Just remember, Don't be an a$$hole!! The world has enough of them as it is. It doesn't need one more. So DON'T be "that" guy!! I hope everyone has a great day!! More importantly, Y'all be safe out there!!!

@TheJoan48 2 месяца назад

Yes, it feels old. It feels like every soul that lived there left a trace in the wind. Seems like the Romans anniliated them on purpose and that implies they put up a huge fight. They must have burned everything to get rid of them properly. How sad for the Romans to even be there. Karma sure caught up with them. Lots of curses accompanied their way after all the slaughtering they did, probably worse than the Vikings, or just as bad. Lovely site, though. Thank you both so much for this.

@fion1flatout Год назад

That's an Egyptian chariot? It's all steam bent wood... The spokes are made of 6 V shapes, each spoke is half of two V's stuck together.. etc super lightweight rapid vehicles. Look up Robert Hurford. Celtic chariots are completely different, wheels are elm naff, oak spokes and ash felloes like modern wagon wheels

@colinbrigham8253 Год назад

Thank you 😊

@joakimblomqvist7229 Месяц назад

Another fab documentary, Pete 😊! I so enjoy your narrative, keep up the good work!

@kellyb1420 Год назад

I’ve missed ya Pete 👋 Bless Up my friend 🙏❤

@cathafloat1519 Год назад

Our house backs on to an Iron Age hill fort, Bury Hill Ring, in Anna Valley, near Andover. I agree, hill forts exude spirituality. We are also near Danebury. I remember it being excavated in the late eighties. They even found the skeleton of an Iron Age mouse in the bottom of one of the grain pits. There is a rather excellent little Iron Age Museum in Andover. We are also near Stonehenge and not too far from Avebury. All worth a visit if you are ever travelling along the A303. By the way, I hiked up Mam Tor as a teenager many times and never realised it was a hill fort. You learn something new every day. Thanks.

@davidelliott5843 Год назад

I grew up in Derbyshire. My geography t reacher took us up Mam Tor. He knew it well fortunately because the mist came down so heavy we needed a compass to get everyone down safety. I now live in Devon. You should come to see the Neolithic remains on Dartmoor. But there’s more. We have evidence of Palaeolithic caved and stone tools going back many thousands of years long before the Bronze Age.

@kevinshort3943 Год назад

"Is Mam Tor The Prehistoric Capital of the Midlands?" I thought that was Birmingham? 😲

@davidpickard903 Год назад

I thought it wax about Mam Tor which I have climbed but you kept flicking to pictures of other places which made it confusing

@zagortenay33 Год назад

"Who needs Peru, when we have got these." Exactly. I don't understand why such a pioneering country in archeology like GB has not made excavations in their own land. Really does not make sense at all.