Is Master of Harmony Good Now? 

Ive been playin MoH since before the change. The extra charge of CBrew is worth it alone. But my favorite thing is it allows you to actually control when you release the vitality, unlike SP where flurry just procs...whenever.

Am I wrong in my assessment? (TLDR: Crit/mastery should be m+ stat priority) I'm not going to talk about crit. It's just so, so good. Get 40% crit lol. Mastery is critical to becoming a beefnugget in M+. With versatility prioritized, your win condition depends on your own perfect CD/pull management and an attentive healer, but if you mess up all hell breaks loose. With mastery prioritized, you will gain freedom to be creative in how you spend your CDs and more self-reliance. I recommend 20% crit, 20% mastery, and do whatever you want with the rest. Preferably crit on every piece of gear. You get reasonable amount of versatility by force because most of your tier pieces have versatility. Mastery damage reduction does have breakpoints (when it comes to auto attacks). Once you reach 10% dodge, you have guaranteed that 1/10 auto attacks will not hit you because elusive brawler will add 10% to our dodge until we have successfully dodged. *** Damage Reduction of auto attacks *** 10% dodge = 1/10 autos dodged guaranteed = 10% damage reduction 20% = 1/5 autos dodged guaranteed = 20% damage reduction 25% = 1/4 autos dodged guaranteed = 25% damage reduction 33% = 1/3 autos dodged guaranteed = 33% damage reduction 50% = 1/2 autos dodged guaranteed = 50% damage reduction 100% = immunity I think if you don't have 10% mastery you're missing out on a TON of damage reduction and at that point it's still worth a ton. It does get progressively less valuable, but if we were to chart this, the damage reduction per rating point meets up with versatility at about 20% where they're roughly equal. So, if you have less than 20% mastery and you're doing m+, mastery is far and away better than versatility. But it's still decent up to 25%. If you want to min/max you can by ensuring you sit at one of these dodge breakpoints. If you are at a breakpoint that divides evenly into 100%, you will never exceed 100% dodge while you are actively taking autos (a complaint about mastery seen on Wowhead with no additional thought, lol). There is one other VERY IMPORTANT consideration between mastery and versatility. That is how it interacts with you stagger bar. Mastery and versatility both slow down the growth of your stagger bar and devalue your purifying brew. Versatility slows your stagger bar growth down by Vers% divided by two, but when you dodge attacks, 0 damage goes into your stagger. Eventually, with mastery, attacks will go through, and you will take a chunk of stagger. These chunks should be larger than the chunks for favoring versatility. Mastery favored chunks of stagger are more efficient to stagger. If you favor versatility, you will bleed more stagger directly into your health bar before feeling like you need to purify. You may even be tempted to use it early, which would be a mistake. Thus, versatility DEVALUES purifying brew at a rate faster than mastery. Besides more mitigation, you'll also deal more damage and healing since ALL of your healing and damage scales with mastery much better than versatility (by quite a lot, verse is the slowest scaling stat). The only noteworthy exception is mad queen's mandate on use trinket. Besides mitigation, healing, and damage you also gain more fun reliably dodging certain tank busters and most of the autos in M+. That Ashvane Commander will have to get lucky, and even if he does, he probably only pimp slaps you for 5% more damage than with versatility build since you still have some versatility. For high-level play, you can sit at high stagger when you have high levels of mastery and make effective use of Training of Niuzao. The 15% increased dodge and attack power turns brewmasters into an untouchable god (pushes you to the next breakpoint). The damage you take from letting your stagger bleed becomes less than the damage you would take by resetting your stagger and downgrading to the previous breakpoint!!!!! Or, maybe you just wanted more time to get another purifying brew. Versatility will be very unforgiving in the scenario where you have no brews. You will land in this predicament in one of three ways. (1) You mindlessly used your brews (2) Your dps just aren't dpsing (3) You're pushing some high keys. In all of those scenarios you are going to thirst for more mastery. Magic damage is a non-issue if you're using blackout combo buffed celestial brews and hitting your mega vivify (bigger with mastery) on CD. Def need a weak aura to track your mega vivify. It's a short CD, but very bad if you accidentally hard cast one which drops your dodge to 0. Interrupts are still very important as a group to mitigate magic damage.

I've been using it ever since the change and it feels really really good

Honestly, I think Brew is one of the best balanced specs (within itself) as there is practically no dead talent in the tier 3 of the tree. Invoke Niuzao could do with a buff for M+ but otherwise, anything down the tree is a viable option. All brew really needs it to squish the stagger scaling throughout and expac (start 70% scales up to 85%, this expac I believe it started around 60-65%?) and make Celestial Brew a beefier shield and Brew is in an absolutely fantastic spot. Personally I also much prefer MoH over SP as it feels like I have more direct control, having a 2nd Cel brew is also super nice during times of panic (10 stack Cel, Purify Red, Purify Red, 6 Stack Cel, Black Ox Brew, rest as needed) is so good for a scary spike. It also looks sick as fuck, the green cloak is drip as hell.

Ive been MoH on my MW and its actually pretty damn nice. It feels like a more frequent cd then CoC and it just sorta works so much smoother with the normal rotation. Doubt I will take it for raid but it feels really good for m+.

I just wish Black Ox Brew reset both charges of Celestial Brew with MoH's Endless Draught. Sadly it only restores one charge. Probably not intentional, just something the dev never considered.

I've been running a lot of MoH since the buffs and I love it. It feels a lot better than Shado Pan.

I tried MoH after the changes and for some reason I feel way squishier compared to shado pan. Even did 2 dungeons(arakara) back to back on the same key level and on shado pan I just felt safer.

Tried some rounds yesterday too , GOOD Prio DMG !

Brewmaster is by far my favorite tank. But it just feels very squishy this season even with Sado pan... Ended up switching yo windwalker. Every single pull i feel like im surviving by a thread

At around @5:00 you say 28% of ppl play shadowpan, that is 56% very much a difference :) You do tho have a lot of nice observations that a lot of brew player would benefit of seing.

In the Master of Harmony Tree, the first talent choice node in the middle does literally 0 damage in my m+ runs. Is it bugged or a dead talent? I always see it in the builds, but that talent never shows up in details and when, then it does like 0,1% dmg or so.

If I care about survivability, is SP still the play?

No flame but i find it funny you replied to a comment a couple days ago saying you dont think the buffs was enough but E-girl hunter said it was better than shadopan a week ago and now this vid came out. 😂 ik you probably came to this conclusion from testing or other sources. Also not trying to argue or anything. If you explained why the change, im in a job meeting so on mute currently.

the dps is just to low