I’ve always wondered why he’s never been called out for this. He’s always in it every match, and whether you see it as a big deal or not, it is a rule and it should be followed and enforced
Exactly! I mean I think it is at least in part an intimidation tactic or he tries to do some "dominance" mind-games. But why he isn’t called out more often when he’s literally crossing the line - is beyond me. Having Shrek breathing into your neck while throwing darts can’t be fun … even if you are not introverted. 😁 If someone is going to him one day while playing and casually "threatens" to let a dart fall on his foot over the line , I would laugh my ass off! 😂
@@EgoChip I think you can compare Ronnie and MVG when it comes to making comments to media backstage - but Ronnie has the status as a player in Snooker now Taylor had in darts 10+ years ago - and referees confront him quit regularly regardless - if anything is outside the norm while playing - in my opinion . MVG‘s status now is more in the range of Trump compared to Snooker I would say.
Funnily enough, he's been showing these antics consistently since the year he won zero majors, that being 2021. Perhaps it was part of his redemption story all along... I love watching him play don't get me wrong, but I'm stunned he hasn't been fined once
He’s been doing this for at least 2 years that I knows off. It was that bad that during the 2020 premier league when he played Nathan Aspinall that MVG had to stop otherwise he would of walked into the back of him.
He is not a bully. It’s true that he is breaking a rule and it’s up to the pdc and the referee to act to this. Or not. However tell me what a bully is in your eyes?
Wasn't there an incident a few months back involving MVG & Rob Cross where the Dutchman yet again was encroaching? If memory serves, it was at a pivotal point in the match which makes me think Michael is well aware of what he's doing as it happens so often.
It's a lot worse than it sounds! Everyone has an aura, and that aura can sense things, which we then call a sixth sense if it matches up... He is definitely aware of that, and uses that technique since long... It's premeditated intervening with the other player's aura and state.
They should use vibrating crystals to counterbalance MVG’s presence, or only compete when Mars is in the Olympian quadrant. OR… Auras are just nonsense. 😄
@@doghouseriley4732 I’m not your mother Princess, have a look for it because it’s out there. Better still watch more darts. Would you like me to tuck you in tonight. 🤡 Just for you! ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-56MhtcapOec.htmlsi=0ybSBID7PLx8qwkD
no one calls him out on it because in the end, it has no impact on the result of the match. he's clearly still far enough away from the thrower to not be bothering them. if everyone thinks it's such a big deal, then just make the exclusion zone a bit bigger...problem solved
Interestingly, this debate always seems to come up when MvG is dominant and there is nothing else to criticise for his haters. The reason this rule isn‘t enforced that strictly is because he isn‘t gaining an unfair advantage by having 5cm of his toes in the exclusion zone. It is ridiculous to believe that officials like Kirk Bevins, who calls out every illegal throw, wouldn’t recognize and enforce this if it were a serious rule breach. Get a grip guys…
Not something ive ever noticed buts clear and evident on the pictures shown that mvg does intrude the exclusion zone. The pdc need to pull him for this as its there for a reason and mvg obviously dosent respect it… shame on him
Almost everyone on the PDC does that. Very few people who don't. Also, ALL player step into the exclusion zone before the opponent pulled his darts out. Well, there's no one who takes action against it, so they do it.
A decent investigation would have included more photographs of OTHER players and where they stand as the other player throws, alongside players reaction to that too. If theres no comparisons, then it smells like a witchhunt.
But what are the official rules, becauce even stepping to the oche while a player is still in it are against the rules are they not?? It's turning into darts Var
MVG has been doing this for years... Whether it's right or wrong it's up to the games officials to stop MVG from doing this... This has been mentioned many times & officials needd to stop this only if it's against PDC rules...
Why do the PDC even have that zone if they don't pull players for standing across it? Yes, it's not like MVG is stood right on his opponent's shoulder, but the zone is there for a reason, yet when the rule is breached PDX seem to do nothing.
y'all crying, its NOT an official rule that you aren't allowed to stand there. Its just a matter of respect to ur opponent, mvg remains the best of all time keep womping
I genuinely don't think he's trying to gain an advantage, its just become a nuance in his game. He'll shake his body to adjust his shirt, bend down and adjust his trousers usually after his first 3 darts. He even starts walking really early. He should be brought up on it but I thinks it's more a Nadal style ocd thing he started then cheating. Not to mention how many players step across the exclusion zone when walking back after collecting their darts.
His big toe is in the exclusion zone every once and again... it's not the end of the world. I like the English a lot but you do tend to be such sore losers, many English players intimidate the opponent and commit similar fouls like Price not waiting for an opponent to retrieve their darts before throwing, but crickets...
It's not important. He's doing absolutely nothing to infringe on the opponents throw. I was watching the seniors championship and there was barely room onstage for the player to stand behind their opponent. I'm sure Littler doesn't even know he's there. If other players were complaining about it then it would be a problem.
So clearly littler 80 left and at the oche ready to throw before mvg has even collected his darts from board (evident in the video) so ok for some?? The rules need to be clear and firm.
Horseshit. The 3 inches he gains by standing in the exclusion zone do not reduce the number of steps he needs to take prior to throwing. He wants his opponents to feel intimidated by him breathing down on them, and appearing eager to capitalize on mistakes. It’s 100% gamesmanship. They should change the rules such that any dart thrown while your opponent is violating the exclusion zone can be re-thrown. That would immediately put a stop to this.
Watching him breath in his opponents neck feels rude unprofessional and annoying Tactic/intimidation or not The rule is there for a reason and he should be held accountable
Hideous AI generated pictures, you really don't need those in these videos! real pictures are much better even if the quality is a bit crap (upscale AI if you must perhaps)
No he's not a cheat at all. If michael wasn't as good as he is then this wouldn't even be a story ffs. Iv seen players cheat before and michael isn't one of them.
He’s stand on the line, it’s hardly cheating and why the hell would someone find it intimidating?😂 What I find ridiculous however is the crowd booing when a player loses the chance of a 9 darter, English fans booing opposition. This has ruined the experience
Because all the TV cameras are on the left. They will be in the way. That's why all the players walk off to the right every time they retrieve their darts.
if not allowed , the ref should call him out for it ...if not .. the opponent should ...if not ? who are you to cry about it .. bunch of salty Brits here crying about it is hilarious
Cheating is something you gain an advantage out of. Mvg standing in the encroachment area is t cheating. He gains absolutely nothing from standing in it. He still shouldn’t be doing it regardless
What if he's as Phil Taylor suggested tapping the exclusion zone which the throwing player can feel, something like that is enough to make a difference in a game in which milimeters are the difference between success and failure.
Whether he gains an advantage from it or not, rules are rules. Therefore if he's breaking the rules he's cheating. Simple as that. The issue is that he is standing right behind he player on the oche so they don't complain because they don't realise. I'd start lifting my leg too and kick him in the nads. See who wins the mental battle then!! He's the one breaking the rule....not like he can complain about a low blow is it! Hahaha
It’s not difficult to be 6 inches further back like he has meant to be. Referees need to call him out on it regardless of who he is. Can’t have rules for some and not for others.
He does it because he intimidates his opponents. He is a great clutch thrower but in all sports mental tactics gain you an advantage. He uses those advantages a lot. Most of the time he is emphatic about a good shot.
Simple solution, the oche is raised from the floor to prevent players going over it, raise the exclusion zone too, that way they have to be completely on it to be encroaching making it clear and obvious to all
So glad you mentioned this, as he does it all the time and no so called referee ever says a thing to him! He is in there energy zone and has no excuse for having his feet where they are. Lets see if he carries on tonight, and if a so called referee will ever do anything to stop this blatant rule break.
Your conclusion makes zero sense. You say he isn't cheating, because he likes to play fast. This is the equivalent of saying I take drugs to run faster, because I like to run fast. He is well aware of what he is doing. Emberassing pdc hasn't called this out, not once. He is cheating, he likes to play fast, so he goes into the zone to get an advantage of his opponents. Mvg the fast man going to an oche.
Maybe the other player is deliberately playing slowly, very unsportsman like. I am guessing you've never played the game, you've no idea the fun and games some players use. In MVG case, I suspect he is focused on the game and standing on the exact spot isn't his priority.
Yeah can't stand how Wade and Price rush to the oche and raise their dart while their opponent is still retrieving theirs. They turn around to see a dart pointed at their face. It's crap.
@@croscoloser that is because he is beating littler almost every time they meet. The band wagon people will only see what someone does against littler. They don’t see that he does stupid things or under pressure he isn’t throwing as well as they think.
Funny I was going to post something similar. MVG is arrogant. He knows he is doing it and somebody needs to say something. It is a written rule. It is black and white. He’s braking a rule so he’s cheating. Don’t care whether he wants to play fast. Play by the damn rules…
Glad you made this video and hopefully it gives it even more attention. Whether he's doing it consciously or not doesn't really matter. If the rules aren't enforced then what's the point of them? I've been waiting for a player to turn and tell him to back off.
If he's not sticking to the rules then he's breaking the rules, It's up to the Referee to warn him about it, You can't have one rule for him and one rule for everyone else.
@@ferencnagy1205because he's made it a habit to stand on the zone with his toes. At this point it's part of how he plays, not part of wanting to intimidate. No one playing darts gets intimidated by that stuff unless he's literally touching them. He's still half a meter away from them and ppl can't see him when their eyes are on the front of their head. I think that's the case for most darters.
his not the only one that does it tho but me as a dart player can tell you that you rarely notice when they are behind you that far away you need to be much closer.. i think there is way more dart players what caougt alot like are the always sick or what or alot of moment behind you dont notice someone stadning still behind if they are not less then a meter away @@ferencnagy1205
I’m seeing a lot of comments overblowing this. Yes, he shouldn’t do it. It’s a rule and he should get called out on it. But frankly it’s not a big deal at all. The exclusion zone is pretty big. The intrusion of his toes into it are not even close to obstructing any player’s throw. Has any player raised it with the referee? Seems like the obvious thing to do if it’s bothering you.
It makes a difference. Or he wouldn't be doing it . If you are offside you are offside . Can be a 1mm maybe a toe to far but it is still offside . Same with any sport . Driving a car 30mph speed limit 31mph is still speeding . He shouldn't be doing it simple as that .
He is the name of the game in this era, therefore he's allowed to get away with it. An inch doesn't prevent him from getting to the oche faster. He's some player but he needs to be held accountable even if it's a small infringement. Rules are rules. I'll never forget the night with Dimi!
who gives a toss! the referee isn't calling it, opponents aren't calling it out to the referee for them to intervene. Obviously it's a non-event to those actually involved in the match including the sports governing body who normally get involved in anything and everything and hand out fines like smarties.
yeah yeah. gerwyn price breaks rules every time as well. he throws when his opponent didnt even leave the exclusion zone completely. and yet I dont see anyone complain about it. but since its mvg I guess people need to point it out and make an 8 min long vid
Nah man you got to give people their space, you dont stand close to someone playing pool or snooker, you shouldn't do it with darts either, would piss me off, i would definitely tell him to back off
