Is MIXING OUTSIDE The Box Better Than Inside

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In this episode of the audionerds podcast the guys discuss the pros and cons of mixing inside the box vs outside. Can you really get pro level mixes with using no outboard gear? What are the actual differences between the 2 sonically? Is the last stage of the digital revolution figuring out analog summing? Lets find out
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@gforceink 2 месяца назад

LJ playing the long game to inherit a piece of gear from a man about to die is so diabolical 🤣💀

@HelpMeDevvon 2 месяца назад

Odeee

@LJean1 Месяц назад

Mannn 😂😂😂

@graykeyzmusic 2 месяца назад

Best pod in the Audio Community period!!!!

@_JohnnySav 2 месяца назад

The HMD Reverb should be called the Double R as in Rosetta Reverb.

@zdot-mr3jp Месяц назад

introing the podcast 8 minutes in is mad work dev😭

@Onawjo 2 месяца назад

I knew it was that damn izotope!!!!!!

@jcpuga 2 месяца назад

For summing In-the-Box , try NLS or Sonimus channels. Find one that works on your favorite track, for example on the drums and bass. I like putting it first in the plugin chain, but you can do it last. Then you can incorporate the analog drive to your liking and it creates a similar vibe.

@bigeast3647 2 месяца назад

American musical supply been doing monthly no credit check payments for at least 15 years. Thats where I've always got my gear from.

@graykeyzmusic 2 месяца назад

Can we talk about how great Plugin Alliance plugins are and how horrible their install process is!!!??? 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

@gatewoodsensei 2 месяца назад

Facts. Makes me want to look at alternatives

@CED.Dweller 2 месяца назад

💯

@BeatsWithKev 2 месяца назад

As a MEGA subscriber, you tell no lies.

@iamroqofficial 2 месяца назад

💯💯💯

@sancessounds 2 месяца назад

I haven't had one hiccup with plugin alliance plugins or installing for 5+ years at this point. What are you running into?

@AVDRE 2 месяца назад

Other Eventide plugins worth checking out imo other than split eq -Physion II -SP 2016 Reverb -TriceraChorus -Blackhole -H910 Harmonizer

@kristianmarschewski1590 2 месяца назад

I am mixing with outboard hardware aswell. I use the Ferrofish A32 Dante as my AD DA converters. this allow me to skip the patchbay and i can hardwire everthing. even in the future i could expand with more converters via dante. And i can use my hardware just like plugins due to the ISR poiints in protools. That setup is realy great.

@RaeWilliams 2 месяца назад

Using the Audient EVO SP8 to extend my Apollo Twin X - works perfectly.

@jesoydx2 2 месяца назад

Clippin' Cayenne wings!

@zantilla 2 месяца назад

Eventide Split EQ?! that's just a regular Tuesday if you had Bitwig

@julianwilliamsTSW 2 месяца назад

LJ Get the Triton rack but it is a grail board

@Leakz2.0 Месяц назад

LJ cooked ya'll this episode as far as the outfits go 🤣🤣🤣 That jacket is 🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥 FL Users up a Million

@LJean1 Месяц назад

Up a MILLION

@Leakz2.0 Месяц назад

@@LJean1 yessssirrr u know the vibes bro bro. keep putting on for the image line camp bro. we right here with you every step of the way. BIG INSPIRATION & by the way we need some vocal mixing updates for fl studio 2024 💯

@victoranthonywalker 2 месяца назад

Had me dying at the end too funny

@vanessaadams3500 2 месяца назад

Great work guys! Stay ready! Your million dollar paydays are on their way. ✌🏾

@gforceink 2 месяца назад

"i know what being in the box is like" 🤣🤣💀

@mrniice 2 месяца назад

Y’all need some cargo joggers with the logo on the back pocket as well! It’ll be mad fire!!! 🔥 love the episode yall know how to set the vibes and keep us engaged! @mr.niice

@LeviWelch-27 2 месяца назад

@lemme_L3vit8, I need that HMD compressor and EQ lol

@manhakimu 2 месяца назад

FLGANG

@LylahCake 2 месяца назад

@db4ks 2 месяца назад

251? nooooooooo the most beautiful microphone off the top is the manley reference mic in black/red

@zenryda 2 месяца назад

I'm I the only one who left their Instagram

@donnydarko7624 17 дней назад

You can't compare the Triton to the LA2A the LA2A is analog the Triton is not.

@zenryda 2 месяца назад

@zenryda

@v4nh0dge 2 месяца назад

I love the content! Im such an audio nerd I love having discussions like this 💪 @vanhodgeproductions

@Official360 2 месяца назад

That Korg Triton is STILL a beast to this day! I bought the VST version & it's just as good. Its my go to for %80 of my tracks IG @official3sixty

@thedeluxx 2 месяца назад

You guys gotta get In The Mix on the show, that guy has been making so many tip videos in such a professional way, he'd be a great guest

@LegendSummingMusic 2 месяца назад

Bro he definitely provides amazing content plus LJ might like him since he a Fruity User 🥕

@jutsu_ 2 месяца назад

Dev did violate doing the DAW comparison without the boys 😂

@iamquaret 2 месяца назад

Yo we here studio one gang. Keep the mastering tutorials going

@stevenblingproductions 2 месяца назад

S1gang..what’s good bro

@Brishten47 2 месяца назад

Keep grinding 🤞 I need a rosetta for my pro tools 😈

@jonkthompson 2 месяца назад

I have the FLKey 49 and he's right, it's fire. I easily put away my Akai MPK49 immediately and haven't brought it back out since.

@kerylmcjohnson9537 2 месяца назад

The Korg Triton is available as VST though

@Official360 2 месяца назад

& its amazing! I invested in it!

@PLUG.MP3 2 месяца назад

this man definitely forgot to talk about the split eq 😂

@digitaldebo7839 2 месяца назад

Yeah imma need that tutorial video on 25:25 ngl

@beautifulknowledge9584 2 месяца назад

I still got a triton that I bought back in 2000! Love it!!

@IBC89 2 месяца назад

Why can’t I see my comment? Been trying to comment for 6 hours now. 🤦🏽‍♂️ This isn’t what I wanted to say. @shany_p89

@shanyppictures2279 2 месяца назад

😂 Same for me. RU-vid bugging.

@IBC89 2 месяца назад

Maybe I can post my comment now that I can see it… First time commenting and been a follower of HMD since I restarted my mixing journey a month ago. With no funds I’ve come across a patreon guy that emulates a lot of older hardware by the name of Analog Obsession. Have you guys come across or heard of this brand? Other reputable mixers like the plugins but I’d like to hear y’all’s take on it. Shany_p89

@prodbyec 2 месяца назад

Great episode like always but Why yall still got the cardboard in your hats lol

@jcpuga 2 месяца назад

"Mango Fury 🥭🔥" @31:47

@LJean1 Месяц назад

🔥🔥🔥🔥

@bangubw736 2 месяца назад

MOTU All the way!

@Taylor_Onn 2 месяца назад

When Dev started talking about the ins n outs for hardware, made me wanna go back to audio school lol

@HelpMeDevvon 2 месяца назад

Lmfao

@obangamuzik 2 месяца назад

I’ve bought over $2500 worth of gear from zzounds no credit check lol

@TheReal_E.IRIZARRY 2 месяца назад

WHy is this even a "debate"? 90 percent of "getting it right" is ITB/in-the-box...... 10 percent is mastering ITB or OTB (choose wisely in either domain)... Next video.

@fangacaranda1279 2 месяца назад

26:57 Devon it seems you’d need the Gig performer 5 software and create a new mixer 8-channel in the outputs or a new Rackspace and then place a GP relayer(send) from the rackspace in Gig, into the new GP relayer(receive) in your daw as an input and recollect the data from your plugins. Hope I’m making sense here lol but just know that you can have up to 10 relay GP relayers in both your Daw and GP5 software. Been trying it out myself but my 2019 8gb ram MacBook Pro can’t handle it. So when I do upgrade, it’s game on lol. 💯 #FavoritePodcast🎧

@_b0ws3r_ 2 месяца назад

produce like a pro did a shootout with the WA-1B and the CL-1B. Unlike some of the other warm audio hardware clones that have a definite sound difference, the WA-1B is so close its basically imperceptible, and for a 5th of the price; i don't see the benefit spending the extra 4 grand for a home studio

@stylez_davis 2 месяца назад

0:32 was that a Tay Roc reference lool

@okaysaint 2 месяца назад

Professor, we’re still waiting your lesson about mastering😔

@Eknockmercury 2 месяца назад

Neumann Black & Milds..y’all ODing 😂😂🤣

@Dayvbeats 2 месяца назад

best acustica plugins??

@sancessounds 2 месяца назад

Ash is nasty, and Ocean is a sneaky underrated plugin lowkey. If you have the CPU, you can't beat the sound of some of their stuff if I'm honest. But workflow and CPU is such a strong factor that unfortunately its worthless to even try to load their plugins up unless you are just mastering a stereo file. In that case you can maybe get 2 or 3 up there before your computer self-destructs lol.

@db4ks 2 месяца назад

Nebula 4 third party libraries like the ones by tim petherick,cupwise ect.

@Kane_O_307 2 месяца назад

I though I was the only one geeking out over the Quantumn

@GregWilliamsTU 2 месяца назад

The hip hop kit 2 on the triton has the clipse grinding beat lol

@freshsince1985 2 месяца назад

Try UAD Luna daw summing

@ranestorypictures1738 2 месяца назад

Events speakers still ❤‍🔥

@Swank904 2 месяца назад

Can we get a tutorial on how to go out the box and back in for most DAWs?

@LylahCake 2 месяца назад

They drowning tht system out. Nd we gon feel it

@AtTheSourceStudios 2 месяца назад

Motu 16A or other Motu is the best for analog heads. Plenty of I/O and with AVB the expandability is seemless and easy if and when you should need to. And although you're could try your best to make the case to accomplish similar or comparable results with plugins vs your analog gear - the summing is where the digital game gets murdered on the battlefield. I still feel like analog compression is also the other biggest improvement over digital but i feel when you were talking about "wanting" to go in the box and then you referenced "OFFLINE BOUNCING" and im like yeah...lol... That is a huge drag and a time suck but hey the end result always makes me smile 😊

@22GRAA 2 месяца назад

FrontDAW is kinda crazy for analog sounding summing in the box

@Freewayquezmusic 2 месяца назад

• I’m trying to go fully in the box • let me get it off Devvon 😭😭😭

@Tai-Dye 2 месяца назад

Ayoooo

@Tai-Dye 2 месяца назад

"I know what bein in the box is like" 😭🤣

@AtTheSourceStudios 2 месяца назад

U87 edition black mild 😂😂😂😂 jesus lol

@PoppybLuntz 2 месяца назад

courtny - "Rick Ross wuddup" 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂

@GgWifi-ot2sh 2 месяца назад

all credit is debt u can't build credit without debt . read the left hand side of any paper money... dont be afraid of that Sweetwater payment plan!! great way to build credit PAY THEM THEY MONEY! DONT PLAY WIT IT

@sancessounds 2 месяца назад

Mixing - Nah. Inside all the way. Mastering - Depends on preference TBH. With the investment needed to make it worth it, you can get a space station of a computer with plugins that are FULLY capable of no compromise, high-level mastering results.

@respectedrejectz 2 месяца назад

If you use zzounds enough you can get even more expensive gear with no credit check... I could get up to $2500 worth currently 😂💀

@marlonoverstreet6624 2 месяца назад

Dev, the Flock is a must have if you’re looking to continue OTB processing!

@questiondainvention 2 месяца назад

There's no way you can overdue HEAT in pro tools

@JadezProductions85 2 месяца назад

I’m on the hunt for a new interface too. The Quantum is really nice like that??? It do look good not gonna front.

@runituproil2373 2 месяца назад

Inherit the gear @LJ 😂😂😂

@LylahCake 2 месяца назад

Yall be careful talmin bout allat

@jusencase 2 месяца назад

Dev is mix in headphones. Can u recommend a good pair of headphones 🎧?

@5t3w 2 месяца назад

Split eq is a goat hands down.

@EricRabb 2 месяца назад

I’m still a hybrid fan.

@prod.xx808xx 2 месяца назад

4:46 "Long-play" is wild

@vincecrow4512 2 месяца назад

Serban Ghenea mixes 100% in the box. That’s all I need to know.

@ZAY________ Месяц назад

Actually I just heard that isn’t true, he actually does use hardware. Possibly saw it on George T Music

@vincecrow4512 Месяц назад

@@ZAY________ he uses/used 1 piece of hardware inserted on the mix bus called the SPL machine head, which was a rack mount, digital tape emulation unit. Completely digital. Digital I/O and digital processing. Everything else they do is in the box. All the individual channels and the rest of their mix bus. No analog gear used at all. Serban’s assistant John Hanes has confirmed this on that gearspace forum about Serban’s mixing. No summing, no analog, no nothin. And, Make Believe studios came out with a plug-in emulation of the Machine head, and Hanes said that they’ve switched over to using the plug-in now, so now they’re 100% in the box.

@jazzylamel 2 месяца назад

Yo I aint gonna lie😂😂😂

@victoranthonywalker 2 месяца назад

Best episode ever

@Queesibeats 2 месяца назад

Bruh not the U87 black and mild 😂😂😂

@HelpMeDevvon 2 месяца назад

Lmfao

@2wavy709 2 месяца назад

😌

@codybeachchair 2 месяца назад

Yo, is there a deadline to become Diamond and cop the merch?

@HelpMeDevvon 2 месяца назад

Nah you’ll get a message

@rileyortman1872 2 месяца назад

Devon you always have these great conversation starters and Lj always takes over and makes it about him it’s super frustrating to watch. Ur clearly the oldest and the most knowledgeable and people wanna hear your opinions and thoughts the most, I just feel like lj goes on these long irrelevant tangents that are just kinda ruining the episode…