@@travisspazz1624 yeah but the previous predator movie soured many fans and read a report that if prey opened in theatre then it would have gone to hbo for streaming(due to previous deals) rather than hulu. Dont know if it is true or not
A really good ‘why we love Dan’ showcase here: 1. How clearly upset he is at being accused of not going deep enough in his comparative analysis of box office metrics, 2. How sincerely grateful he is to have a platform where his recommendations about films that he’s enjoyed that might easily be overlooked sometimes result in people seeking them out.
Yeah! I’m confused with Dans findings…. It’s being reported for days now how well it’s doing, extremely well, but what Dan just said has me confused. Dan are you going to a review at all on The Sandman ? And a detailed numbers count etc… on this show ?
@@pandamanda6969 I think Dan didn’t factor in that it had only been released for 3 days and everything on the list had the full 7. It’s not doing gang buster numbers but it’s pulling really well so far, hope it can keep it up. Sure wish we could get a review from him, I really enjoyed the show but as a super fan I’m extremely biased would love to see his take on it.
The adjusted for inflation thing actually made me laugh out loud. I was like, Dan always adds that information. If anything, he adds too much information (not literally, I love all the little bits you do - keep it up!). We're talking about the guy who decides hey I'm gonna take the effort to compare the current week we're having this year, to other similar weeks of the same time period in different years. No one provides as much detailed and interesting information as Dan The Mad Man Murrell!
I can't wait to have Top Gun: Maverick on digital but I was hoping it would wait until it at least passed Black Panther at the number 5 spot domestically. It had a pretty good shot at doing it but now with it coming out on digital next week that probably won't happen. There's still a small chance it can but will be very difficult. However, passing Infinity War for #6 is incredible for a sequel to a movie from the 80's. Most people didn't think it would make worldwide what it just did domestically alone. Simply amazing!
I don’t think it was quite going to make that #5 spot. Regardless of the digital release. With just under $27 million to go and dropping below $1 million daily averages, it seemed unlikely at this point. I’ll keep seeing it though and help it along (I’m up to 14 viewings now and 19 tickets) because after it leaves the theater, I won’t get to see it again until November when my 4K disc comes in. Thanks to my local second run theater which should keep me sustained a bit longer. I simply reject digital and streaming outright, and Paramount releasing it on digital like they’re about to only reinforces my resolve on that.
@@SumDumGy After this weekend I think it will be about $18 million away from catching Black Panther. It's still possible even if it's going to digital next week but as I said it will be more difficult. I think it would have definitely passed it if it didn't go to digital. It will need to be in theaters for at least another 3 weeks though. Anyway, we will see. And 14 viewings? WOW!
@@magnum1980 Well, consider that, without digital, it’s still dropping. Tuesdays, Saturdays and Sundays see bumps but we’re still going to be $500,000-$800,000 per day this week. Next week will be less. The number of theaters showing it will be dropping. Neither of my local theaters have it scheduled at all beyond the 24th, and didn’t even before the digital announcement. I want this to happen more than anyone else. Clearly more than Paramount does. It’s possible but I don’t think it’s likely at this point, but I’d love to be proven wrong. I’m sure not down going to see it and just can’t understand why Paramount hasn’t offered me a free 4K copy already! Do I have to beg?
I am not sure sure if Netflix really need to spend h $200 million for any movie At best it might have get buzz for a few days and gives Neflix 120 minutes of content - - Better off spending it on a tv series that gives 10+ hours of content for the same price that will keep peole invested over several weeks or several lower budget movies
Yeah I think it's bananas that they are spending that kind of money for big action spectacle movies that people can only watch at home. Most people go to the theaters only to watch the big action spectacle movies and watch the smaller movies at home. So Netflix should either spend that money on low budget movies: comedies, rom coms, horror, prestige dramas and TV shows (and maybe spend some money to actually promote those things so people know about them). Or at least release the big spectacle movies into theaters for a few weeks to rack up some box office money and buzz and then make it exclusive to Netflix. You know, like Disney is doing with most of its movies (except Pixar for some reason). Though I watched The Adam Project and The Gray Man because they were right on my TV, but even with AMC A-List I don't know if I would have bothered to watch them in the theater. So might help for them to also try to make good high budget movies.
Netflix is dangerously close to never getting money from me again. It appears they’ve nearly given up on releasing their shoes in physical media. Those they still do, it’s a year after they air. No physical media? No money from me.
@@JJ-ze6vb This is true, but they could do a similar concept with cheaper to make genres such as horror or romance and get a bigger bang for their buck.
Most of the The Gray Man was actually shot in Prague, even locations like Bangkok, Baku, Vienna and Berlin. I happened to be an extra in of the scenes - it took a whole day to shoot, 400+ extras, they've fed us, gave out bottled water (because it was late June/early July but for some reason April in the movie so we wore coats), we had two covid tests, one before the shooting and another one for the costume trying. The scale seemed ridiculous on the set, but it essentially amounted to one minute of screentime being a background for Chris Evans 😂 I don't know much about movie production, but it seemed to me the whole thing could've been made for 4x less and look the same.
Was kind of surprised with how low the box office was this week. Bullet Train deserves better. Saw it last week and really enjoyed it. My theater going this weekend was to see Inu-Oh, twice. Glad I did, quite the visual experience. Wish that film got marketed more, it would be a nice contender for best animated this year. I only saw trailers for it during GKids showings.
@@szewei85 That would have helped The Suicide Squad. That was my favorite film of 2021. But that would have also delayed the release of Peacemaker as well. I hope that show gets another season.
About those people who troll about not using inflation, you’re right. They don’t watch you. I love your weekly box office recap because you take a lot of time to report every facet of the box office. Your passion shows. Appreciate the graphics and the information. I need out on this stuff. Ignore those who enjoy throwing hate and ignorant comments. They ruin RU-vid
Or look and be generally terrible as a film. Had to turn it off during the laughable plane crash scene that just made me dizzy and you could only occasionally ever tell what was happening and then those effects for 200 million… I thought for sure this was a lower budget film that was trying to look big budget then found out it cost 200 million. I don’t understand.
Rather than adjusted for inflation (or not), can you get actual tickets sold (number) - that seems to me to be the best indicator of how well a movie did.
That “fan appreciation” event for Top Gun: Maverick was a joke! Sure, I got a really cool poster (that I would have missed out on had I not specifically asked for it on my way out the door...limited to 200 per location and no one was handing them out upon check-in), but that bonus footage was about three minutes of quasi-behind the scenes stuff. The main cast giving a line or two of dialogue about filming on an air craft carrier and some accompanying footage. What added insult to injury was I saw that exact same footage three days earlier mixed in with trailers at the 40th Anniversary screening of E.T., and that was on an IMAX screen. Regardless, that special weekend event gave Maverick a solid boost toward reaching that #6 spot and I’ve now seen it 14 times. Woohoo! I really object to these staggered digital/physical releases. Three months between what amounts to two variants of home media release?! Just on more reason I’ll never support digital/streaming. Paramount should have learned better also when it comes to releasing this digitally while the film is still in its theatrical run. They’ll only damage that total box office haul while it continues to climb and dominate. Bullet Train is a lot of fun!
The sandman audible book is awesome and there was some character changes loyal peeps heard about, my wife who knew nothing about it and I, who knew alot but not an over the top fan, both loved it.
The way the movie is just barelling forward, they should rename it Top Gun Cruise Control. Ha, ha, ha...I'll see my way out. I can't believe I have to wait 2.5 months to get a hardcopy of Maverick. The torture!
I'm part of the problem lol, 5th time seeing Maverick this weekend. Most times I've seen a movie in theaters, finally surpassing Baby Driver which I saw 4 times when it was released.
Great breakdown as always, Dan. I wonder if Paramount jumped the streaming gun too sun with Top Gun Maverick? Most analysts felt it was almost certain to break $700M, but going on PVOD next week may hurt its chances.
I don't think so. It's sitting around $675MM, and took in right around $7MM the last two weeks, including the incentivized expansion. That means it would have to keep making that same amount for at least 4 more weeks to break $700MM. If there's any drop, that window just keeps running out further and further. Even with it coming out on digital, some theatres will keep showing it, but $700MM is likely just out of reach.
I got a job at a movie theater a couple months ago, and there was an Indian movie called Karthikeyea 2 that was MASIVE for us. Easily our biggest grosser this past weekend, and I’m shocked to see it’s not on the limited release chart. We canceled showings of other movies like Inu-Oh (literally all of our showing for that), Fall, and even one for Top Gun: Maverick because so many Indian people were showing up to see it. Laal Singh Chaddha made some money, but nowhere near as much as Karthikeya 2. I tried finding box office data for it, but there wasn’t any easily available for America. I’ve heard Indian box office is difficult to track, but it seems odd one Indian movie did well on paper, and another one that I know did way better isn’t getting its due.
Hey Dan, I'd just like to add my own personal perspective on Iron Giant and its box office flop. I remember being a kid seeing the trailers everywhere on my channels, as well as all the promotional material and marketing ties ins around it. I was so hyped and then my mom told me it looked "too scary" to take me to see and it was a whole big deal. This could have been the case for other parents who didn't know what the movie was about except a giant scary robot. Unsure, but eventually I saw it on VHS and it was glorious.
On the pushing back of digital releases/streaming Thor love and thunder should be on Disney+ next Wednesday if it follows the 47 day window that all recent Disney releases but they haven’t announced anything
You should do a video with all your recommended smaller films as they are never shown in the theaters where I live and I usually forget about them by the time they are released.
Maverick soaring high once more! just my own small contribution; in my local market there will be four showings of Thor Love and Thunder tomorrow, yet there will be six of Maverick.
The difference between something like Encanto still being in the charts but Doctor Strange 2 not being is the kid factor. Parents are probably putting on Encanto daily for their kids.
On the Domestic Box Office Grosses (Adjusted for Inflation). It is rare to see a Maveric climb this chart, and I would love to see the full top 30 list, and see the jumps up to the top movies. Could you provide the full list?
It looks nothing like a $200 million dollar movie. Movies like inception or interstellar cost less and are classics. This feels like a $50 million movie.
A teen drama vs an adult action drama is not a good comparison. You know the teens will be watching that in full force for a week or two, but it will be gone in a month, where as a movie like Gray Man will hang around for weeks on end.
I’m curious to see if Jurassic world dominion will be able to squeak past the billion dollar mark seeing as it should have about 15 million to go from this Sunday also how well does minions do in the Chinese market
I love this show 💙 I do have a doubt about PFV (Please excuse me if you've already mentioned it somewhere and I missed it) For the denominator, do you consider the listed run time that includes credits/intro or only the actual runtime of the episode/movie excluding the credits,etc.? I know that sometimes taking the actual runtime can be tedious (especially for long shows with variable extra time) but most people don't really watch credits/intros, especially not on Netflix and that can add up in cases of series and give a lower PFV.(in contrast with a movie with only one credits section) Just a thought :)
The Sandman was an interesting idea but just not very good. It was an oddly-paced series, filled with too many superfluous characters and story beats that just seemed clunky and kind of aimless. It started ok but after about three or four episodes, it really just became a slog to finish. There wasn't really enough to make you care about any of the characters. It was also incredibly frustrating because too much time was spent on the things that were the least interesting. I was really invested in seeing how David Thewlis's character would play out because he was the most interesting part of the show. It seemed like they were setting him up to be the main villain of the series... and then nope. There were a few good performances but overall the acting was subpar or just boring. Also, Patton Oswalt was just a horrible choice for the voice of the raven. I don't think I would go back for a second season if they make another.
That was certainly the main risk adapting it from the comics, because the plot overall is a string of loosely connected stories or stories within stories, creating a dreamlike narrative that relies a lot on the reader's imagination. So making it more real through live-action defeats the purpose somewhat. Overall I thought it was at least a noble attempt when it comes to the respect for the original.
I feel like people clearly prefer seeing action movies in theatres, and if Netflix released the movie theatrically they could have made some good dough. I don’t think anyone is buying a new subscription just for a title as bland as The Grey Man.
Yep, I had much the same thought about these Netflix blockbuster-wannabes not seeming like something many people would sign up for or keep a Netflix subscription in order to watch. The series have generally been what's drawn me to Netflix and got me to keep it (and their selection of movies outwith their own "originals" has improved over the years as well).
Regarding The Grey Man: my opinion is that the thumb nail and poster have a picture of Chris Evans that is unrecognizable. The trailer does not incite watching. The film is very enjoyable and the performances of the stars are fabulous. Marketing missed the mark. However fourth on the list of most watched movies on Netflix is still pretty good.
i dont think dr strange 2 has replay value. the cameos and thriller suspense lose appeal after first view encanto i hear people with kids watch it like daily/on repeat because they love the music
Should've checked this video's runtime; hit play, kept speed walking on an incline (tredmil). Glad for the video but now worn-out. Iron Giant, fantastic film; I ought to re-watch it.
An Indian film called "Karthikeya 2" has grossed over 500k USD in limited release this weekend.....I know "sources are hard to come by for Indian movies" is a reasonable excuse but....just saying
Not just hard - they don't exist. The movie isn't listed on Box Office Mojo, TheNumbers, or ComScore nor is it listed in box office coverage in any of the US trade magazines. The articles I can find about the movie list its gross without a reference. I wish the reporting for Indian films was better, but I need at least one source to check back against.
I saw this movie too in theaters and it was also very good. Like an Indian version of National Treasure. I didn’t have to see the first one to know what was going on but will seek it out if I can find it.
I for one would love to see that 1999 Box Office series coz a lot of bangers came out that year (The Matrix, Sixth Sense, American Beauty, Green Mile, Toy Story 2 & Michael Mann’s best movie; The Insider)
it is a shame we will no oonger have the top gun maverick story it still had potential for taking the number 5 spot over black panther and dare i to hope even further still. it is a curious stopping point given everything we have learnt over the pandemic which is streaming kills revenue generation so while it still had much potential in the tank it is an odd choice. and of course dan this week trying to help suss out the age old problem for streaming servcie just what is value to them and at what theshold is to much to have created a show or film. i cam geneally sum up the problem for most servcies in a simple thought experiment what unique shows or films do they have that you will watch more than once...when you start looking at it though this lens you really start to see the problem and why they are not retaining people. they have focused so much on breadth and volume of content they sacrificed rewatchability and quaility. this is where zaslav returning to a more tradtional money making window will help hbo out and has been a proven success for discovery which while maybe is not a giant in the market has carved out its own permant spot. but no one else has really caught onto this yet and like so many they are just throwing larger budgets but often the best way to get more creative stories is give a good writer less budget and see what they can do as it has to become more about the story and charcter.
Crazy that he got criticized for that last week. If there are two things we can always count on Dan for it’s wearing a baseball cap and adjusting for inflation
I recommended this a few weeks ago, but I think it would be cool to do an “End of Theatrical Run” for notable films that have ended their theatrical runs. I always find it really interesting to see how long some films actually stay in theatres.
@@steelydyl Nah, like more in the sense when a movie actually leaves the theatres. Specifically what comes to mind for me at least is Knives Out. It was still in theatres in March of 2020 when the pandemic began, obviously not in wide release but it was still making money. That’s nearly 5 months after it’s initial release! Probably as a result of it’s Oscar nomination. I know back when the r/BoxOffice was a smaller subreddit they’d used to post “End of Theatrical Run” and I found it interesting.
I looked into that but couldn’t find an official listing for movies closing week by week. I don’t know if I have the real estate to track it myself but I’ll keep looking
@@DanMurrellMovies Ah gotcha! Thanks for looking into it! I remember before R/boxoffice got popular a while ago there used to be posts highlighting end of runs- but that could have been a pre-update box office mojo thing.
My guess would be that some popular films have extremely long "tails" where they're still playing in a few theatres because a 15-screen multiplex is showing them once or twice a week on one screen because they're still getting a trickle of people doing repeat viewings or who didn't see them when they came out. Top Gun: Maverick would be a particularly successful example. I remember when I was a teenager, my local cinema kept showing The Full Monty (a British comedy about unemployed steelworkers who try to make some money as male strippers) for something like 6 months.
The thing about Purple Hearts is that it is filling an under served audience: fans of romance movies. The Gray Man was an entertaining film but it’s not that different from every other movie that is out there right now: the over blown action flick. Movies like the Adam Project worked because it had sci-if and comedic elements.
Shrug? As a devil's advocate, I could say that the massive budgets are necessary to do effects well enough to tell the sort of speculative fiction that's been popular on the page for decades, and is only now possible on the screen. Whether that should be a $100M budget or a $250M budget seems pretty much up to technicalities if you accept that. Now, if you want to say that you didn't see the budget on screen for the Grey Man outside of getting big names, or Thor 4, etc, then yeah: getting a huge budget should (ideally) only be for when a story actually benefits from it.
Almost all blockbusters cost more than that now. And inflation means that a lot of older movies (e.g. Terminator 2, which was the most expensive movie made up to that point, unadjusted for inflation) cost more than that too in today's money. Now, I agree that you could make the case that a lot of blockbusters have bloated budgets spent on huge actor salaries, complex visual effects which don't look very good in the finished product, overlong shoots with a lot of time wasted, reshoots etc. and that independent filmmakers manage to make much better yet "leaner" genre films with much lower budgets via e.g. clever practical effects (e.g. Duncan Jones' Moon) and lo-fi CGI (e.g. Gareth Edwards' Monsters, where if I remember correctly Edwards did all the CGI himself on a laptop). Certainly when you look at things like horror franchises where the original was made for tens or hundreds of thousands (Night of the Living Dead, The Texas Chainsaw Massacre, Halloween, etc.) and the remakes/reboots/requels/whatever cost tens of millions, it seems like there's a vast disconnect and a lot of money is being spent for no reason or in actively detrimental ways (e.g. taking something which was originally shaky, grimy and grungey and looked more realistic as a result and making it Hollywood-glossy).
Just started this video, but was hoping you could mention the near identical performances between The Lost City and Bullet Train. Considering they share three of the same stars, and have always been within less than 1.5 million dollars between each other on a day to day basis, I can't think of another time two movies have had this close of a performance in the same year.
Looking at it from the perspective from other Gosling movies, The Gray Man cost 40 million more than Blade Runner 2049 and 150 million more than The Nice Guys!!
@@travisspazz1624 on your recommendation I will. I didn't get the big lebowski until I could not figure out why they had a lebowski-fest😂😂😂 now it's in my top 10. Thanks for the feedback👍
I think a problem is with Netflix movies like the Greyman, is that even if they spend $200 million on making them, the public perception is that they are sub-par movies - a bit like straight to video movies back in the 90s. They just dont have the same perceived quailtiy as a moive made by a major studio that had a release in theatres. Even movies that did not do well at the box office like Secrets of Dumbledore proably do better on Steaming than most netflix movies due to this.
I don't understand how they manage to spend $200 million on some of these movies. With something like Eternals or Secrets of Dumbledore or Top Gun: Maverick you can see why they cost that sort of money. Red Notice, by my recollection, didn't really have much in the way of big set-pieces or spectacular VFX-heavy scenes or huge constructed sets. (I don't recall if The Grey Man was similarly relatively "low-key" because I fell asleep a few minutes in.) (In a similar vein, I don't understand how one of the Pirates of the Caribbean sequels managed to cost somewhere close to $400 million, unless they were somehow wasting money in vast quantities on delayed shooting, reshoots, sets which got built but never used, etc.)
@@KeithFraser82 Netflix always overpays the talent as an incentive to actually star in “Netflix movies”. Otherwise I don’t see any established actor actually wanting to be in a Netflix movie, if they get paid their normal rate.
@@JohnSmith-tl8pq Actually big salaries might be to compensate for no residuals from the box office. Blumhouse is the opposite in that they get decent talent for their films by offering above average residuals. Ethan Hawk probably did quite nice for himself with the Black Phone as an example.
@@pattheplanter yeah, it worried me too, but I pulled up release dates and almost everything ahead of it got a full week so I expect next week it will do much better on the chart
I’m a big fan of Asian cinema so I’m glad to see Indian, Korean, Japanese and Chinese cinema doing well here in the US in limited release and abroad. I’ve seen 4 Indian films at my local theaters this past week and one of them was Laal Singh Chaddha. It was a great adaptation of Forest Gump and I actually prefer it over the original. It had more heart and was more meaningful and spiritual. There’s no dance sequences in case people are wondering but the beautiful songs and score move you anyway. Definitely go see it. I also recommend the anime rock opera Inu-Oh!
100% Sandmans prime audience (i.e. over 25) is not young enough to have the time to binge it all in one weekend. They probably haven't even got time to start watching it. I know we don't. Very much looking forward to it, but in no rush. Also don't expect we'll be bombarded with spoilers like we are for anything Star Wars or MCU (esp as the assumption is this crowd are predominately already familiar with the comic), so as a newbie coming into it I'm certainly in no hurry.
And you do need a break, at least I needed one after episode 5 for two days The series tackles heavy stuff, but god is it worth it. It's not fast food, but a feast for the eyes and soul I haven't been thinking about a show this much in years!
I think the real question to Netflix is if the grayman was the first thing watched by new subscribers. The big name movies are designed to get more people to subscribe. I’m not sure it’s working though.
That’s a very good point, especially considering how much money they’ve spent on getting big names to star in films that are fun, but not exactly memorable or destined to become a classic favorite for many people.
Shame about Bullet Train. Don't know what this weird collaboration year between Pitt, Bullock and Tatum was, but I was hoping they'd go 2-0 after The Lost City.
Iron Giant debuting in 9th….wow! Glad it eventually found an audience at home…and, um, as random background IP in Ready Player One and Space Jam: A New Legacy…ahem.
E.T in IMAX was so special, Dan! I think I’m general a little more cyclical, critical of movies these days (call it age or Hollywood’s creative bankruptcy)… E.T really reminded me of the magic of movies!
oh has he? I really loved early The Flash seasons (but I admit I fell off the bandwagon later on as I lost interest) and Grant Gustin is such a cutie so if he were to also get big movie career I'd certainly be cheering for him.
