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Is Obamacare Working? The Affordable Care Act Five Years Later 

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In which John Green pauses, five years after the Affordable Care Act was signed into law, to consider what we know so far about the law's effectiveness and repercussions. I also look at health care in the United States more generally, and the limited scope of the Affordable Care Act relative to the size of the overall health care system in the U.S.
I got a ton of help from Aaron Carroll, who hosts the great Health Care Triage / thehealthcaretriage , but any errors are my fault and mine alone.
SOURCES:
More than 17% of US GDP goes to health care expenses: en.wikipedia.or...
The U.S. spends way more on health care than any other country: www-tc.pbs.org/...
And yet our healthcare outcomes are not generally better (and are in many cases worse): www.commonwealt...
44 (or maybe 46) million Americans were uninsured in 2009: www.pbs.org/hea...
This NYT article assessing the ACA is excellent: www.nytimes.com...
Understanding pre-existing condition exclusions: kff.org/health-...
Medical debt is the biggest cause of U.S. bankruptcy: www.cnbc.com/id...
Employer-based insurance distorts the labor market in the United States: www.bostonfed....
Both the access and the cost savings parts of the Affordable Care Act are discussed really well at this wikipedia page: en.wikipedia.or...
We are nowhere close to a path to health care spending stability: www.cbo.gov/pu...
But the uninsurance rate has dropped dramatically: www.gallup.com/...
And more than 12 million people have gotten insurance through the health care exchanges set up by Obamacare: acasignups.net/
The rollout of healthcare.gov was a disaster: en.wikipedia.or...
Insurance premiums rising more slowly than before exchanges: kff.org/health-...
More insurance companies are participating in the exchanges this year than last year: www.wsj.com/art...
The law is costing less than expected: www.nytimes.com...
Is the law actually improving health? It seems so at least for young adults and also for colonscopy screening rates, but much is still unknown: www.nytimes.com...
Many are still uninsured and underinsurance is a huge problem: www.nytimes.com...
(Don't get mad at me for linking a lot to the New York Times; they do way more data analysis and reporting on this stuff than anyone else I've come across)
Britons live longer and healthier lives than Americans despite being pretty similar lifestyle-wise: www.ncbi.nlm.ni...
Our health care spending will sink us in the long-run, but if anything the situation was worse before the ACA: www.cbo.gov/pu...
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@SometimesCompitent
@SometimesCompitent 9 лет назад
Is it wrong to say I couldn't care less about the 'freedom' of massive companies when people are being fucked over financially or left with shitty care? We need a government run, single payer, universal healthcare in the U.S.
@xavier.mauricio
@xavier.mauricio 9 лет назад
If it's wrong I'm happy to be wrong with you.
@TheVlog
@TheVlog 9 лет назад
Governments ought to be established to secure freedom and safety for the people, not the companies
@Vazzalmighty
@Vazzalmighty 9 лет назад
It's a dangerous president to consider a company has freedoms at all.
@fakjbf3129
@fakjbf3129 9 лет назад
I think you should care any time a government restricts people's freedom, for whatever fine a reason. We need to make sure that the benefits massively outweigh the negatives, and should never approach the situation lightly. In this case I agree that we can't let something as important as healthcare be run as a for-profit. I think full government control is a bit much, but universal coverage for all citizens funded by taxes coupled with large-scale negotiations on drug prices would drastically improve outcomes and save money in the long run. But giving the government more power over our lives in any situation requires us to be mindful of all the pros and cons, and to listen to both sides with an objective ear. Or else we risk giving them too much and putting our lives in the hands of politicians, which isn't any better than putting it in the hands of businessmen.
@Nivek0
@Nivek0 9 лет назад
Agreed, this ACA bullcrap all it is is just a bandaid over an underlying cancer that wont go away unless the government agrees to what you jsut said and stop playing with the population like this.
@wearblackclothes
@wearblackclothes 9 лет назад
We don't need more tanks....just saying
@TheDajamster
@TheDajamster 9 лет назад
I live in a town where one of the few remaining good places to work is the tank plant. So of course, in '12 we were deluged by repeat ads quoting Biden saying that very thing. And I agree with him.
@dallascopp4798
@dallascopp4798 9 лет назад
So what you are saying we don`t need to supply our armies with necessary equipment anymore? That seems counter intuitive since America has many enemies and with with tensions rising between the USA, Russia, North Korea, China, ISIS and others ,we need to be prepared for when the worst comes to worst. When another country directly attacks the USA, we will be looking at WW3. So, yes we need more tanks for strategic land battles if anything happens. And if something does happen, we might get drafted and I want a tank to protect me.
@TheDajamster
@TheDajamster 9 лет назад
yippyyippy yoyo There are currently over 2,000 tanks sitting at a base in a Californa desert so they don't rust. We really do have enough tanks. On the other hand, actual soldiers have put in requests for personal armor and have been denied. Militay supply protocols need a strong dose of horse sense, instead of supplying accoding to various pork barrel programs. Since we're sending them into harms way, our soldiers should get what they need, not what some dipsh*t politicaian wants them to have.
@dallascopp4798
@dallascopp4798 9 лет назад
Correct me if I`m wrong here, but isn`t it standard military gear for soldiers to have body armor, guns, bullets, a tactical knife, ecc... when they are being deployed. I don`t why the soldiers had to request for something they have in the first place, unless it was damaged or lost on the battle field. Also yes there are those many tanks over in the base, approximately 9000 in storage in the US and an undisclosed amount being used in the battle field and/or also being stored. But during WW2 there was around 50000 tanks being used by the US for decisions based on what the generals and the president wanted for war. And also by your logic Obama should not be telling the military what to do since he is just a politician with power that has never been in the military.
@scjones25
@scjones25 9 лет назад
yippyyippy yoyo Do we actually need more tanks, tho? I mean, America spends about as much on defense as the next 15 countries combined, most of whom are our allies. Russia, China, N. Korea, Iran, and ISIS put together wouldn't even amount to half of our military spending, and that's assuming all of our allies bizarrely decided to just sit out WW3. We make up over 40% of the world's total defense spending. We're literally prepared to single-handedly take on nearly half of the planet simultaneously. I don't know... I think we might have enough tanks.
@katynstellmach1006
@katynstellmach1006 9 лет назад
Why aren't you and your brother running for president/vicepresident??? I could trust the US in your hands.
@sterling-9259
@sterling-9259 9 лет назад
WORLD LEADERS 2016
@Gromitz101
@Gromitz101 9 лет назад
____ underscore The people that run for politics are not the best choice out there. The best for the job will not apply to government because they can work in the private sector for great pay and better treatment. Second, why would the Greens want to subject their family to politics and media that comes with Presidency? That is just cruel.
@sterling-9259
@sterling-9259 9 лет назад
Gromitz101 Yes, thank you so much for your insight. Especially as we are being entirely serious in this thread, even though we are not. Of course the Greens will not run for president and I'm sure if they did we wouldn't elect them, but as far as these comments go, we are joking and your seriousness is banished. :)
@SCM_Magilla
@SCM_Magilla 8 лет назад
Nothing was mentioned about "forcing" a person to have health care even if they can't afford it. Then getting a "penalty" assessed if you don't have it. I am convinced that is why people signed up, JUST TO AVOID THE FINE! I am battling the IRS now about this and the govt subsidies. IRS also claims that I didn't have insurance. I have sent proof 3 times, each time they have "lost" the paperwork. This who thing, for me has been one big cluster. I had insurance through my employer for 142.50 a week. Yes a bit steep but doable. After Obamacare kicked in, 247.00 A WEEK!!! Seriously, that's what Obama considers Affordable. Now, I have Obamacare through a state exchange it costs me an my wife $173.00 a month but I have a $13K deductible!! Again, how is that Affordable!!!??????
@Jemini4228
@Jemini4228 9 лет назад
I'm British and, dispite its faults, I think the National Health Service is one of the best things about my country...
@4exgold
@4exgold 6 лет назад
pretty much every non-American would agree that UHC is the best thing for lowering national healthcare costs overall and providing good healthcare for anyone who isnt super rich (i.e. 90%+ of the population). It must be horrendous to have it in the back of your mind that if you or a family member get ill or are in an accident or something, you could well be bankrupted. US always has to be the "exceptional nation" though, doesnt it?
@RageCake1414
@RageCake1414 6 лет назад
Pre-ACA US healthcare was bloated, inefficient, and dated. The ACA was the first major legislation passed since the 1960s Medicare and Medicaid. While the ACA has major flaws and issues that need to be resolved, its a step in the right direction to modernize American Healthcare.
@robinbeers3485
@robinbeers3485 8 лет назад
Thank you for doing this series of videos. Factual and without the screeching of axes being ground.
@taylornovay9285
@taylornovay9285 7 лет назад
Although, today, utterly irrelevant.
@stepaniki3319
@stepaniki3319 7 лет назад
Government is the problem, not the free market. The reason prices and premiums are so high is because we don't care how much an ambulance ride costs. It's $6000 in Minnesota by the way just to go across the street.
@DillyDallyDeeleeDallee
@DillyDallyDeeleeDallee 2 года назад
Once the Care act passed, my employer had to switch us to a cheaper quality insurance and our deductible shot up…
@rocsaltjohn
@rocsaltjohn 9 лет назад
ACA is dumping the cost of healthcare on the middle class, who are forced to pay for it while not being able to afford it due to making too much for healthcare credits.
@CyberToyger
@CyberToyger 8 лет назад
No, it has not worked. I owe $365 this year out of my Tax Returns for not having health insurance, and I don't have health insurance because I only work part-time with inconsistent hours and every healthcare plan in my state is too expensive. All it's done for me, as well as my parents back in South Carolina who are struggling to get by, is fuck us over. All the ACA has done is strong-arm some people who didn't want healthcare to get it, and punish those who can't afford healthcare.
@B_Keat80
@B_Keat80 8 лет назад
Update...big insurance company's are leaving Obama care. And if you have it don't go to the hospital or docs office.
@AbcDef-dr7ck
@AbcDef-dr7ck 8 лет назад
HAHAHAHA if you get shot we will try to patch that up for you universal health care. that one cracked me up.
@Xenderkin
@Xenderkin 7 лет назад
>hey let's force Americans to buy health insurance
@JeremysCrazyMind
@JeremysCrazyMind 9 лет назад
I really don't understand why Americans don't want universal healthcare. It would make medical costs far cheaper per person with only a small tax hike. Although because you now don't need to pay for insurance, the tax is basically negligible. There's basically no downside except that it's "socialism", which America hates. I'd call it basic human rights, but whatever.
@JogInTheFog
@JogInTheFog 9 лет назад
Actually a lot of Americans do want universal healthcare: www.gallup.com/poll/4708/healthcare-system.aspx
@KeepCalmAndBeAwesome
@KeepCalmAndBeAwesome 9 лет назад
Hold on. Many of us WANT it, and many of us are in favor or socialism. The Right is a bitch though.
@garysnail47
@garysnail47 9 лет назад
***** I'd like to see something to back up your claim about Canada's 'shit' healthcare, because I'm guessing you've never used it.
@JeremysCrazyMind
@JeremysCrazyMind 9 лет назад
***** But Obamacare isn't universal healthcare. At all.
@KeepCalmAndBeAwesome
@KeepCalmAndBeAwesome 9 лет назад
Calm down. Obama is doing his best.
@miguelcastaneda7236
@miguelcastaneda7236 8 лет назад
you also forgot politicians do not use it themselves
@cahman8
@cahman8 8 лет назад
Miguel Castaneda not completely true. if government employees including politicians don't obtain their healthcare through the government market place then they have to pay for it out of their own pocket.
@lowkeybeat
@lowkeybeat 7 лет назад
Kinda funny that people who complain about paying about health costs with tax dollars habe health insurance funded by tax dollars
@largol33t1
@largol33t1 5 лет назад
I guarantee you the ENTIRE Obama crime family has a secret clause that gives them a $10 copay for everything across the board while the rest of us suffer under a $900 copay. Yes, Obummercare WILL increase your emergency room copay to $900.
@PizzaManager101
@PizzaManager101 5 лет назад
largol33t1 you can read it yourself if you wanna find that clause, laws are public domain
@lilyho8363
@lilyho8363 3 года назад
@@lowkeybeat lol right, that's an interesting fact
@Alchemydude667
@Alchemydude667 9 лет назад
You know, before the ACA, I couldn't have insurance because it's apparently a big deal to be missing internal organs and thus having a compromised immune system. Now, if I get sick, I can actually go to a doctor that I need to go to because, surprisingly, having a compromised immune system means I should probably see a doctor if I'm sick.
@RustyShackleford1066
@RustyShackleford1066 9 лет назад
A single payer healthcare system would be better.
@jaredgarbo3679
@jaredgarbo3679 9 лет назад
NHS
@euducationator
@euducationator 9 лет назад
yes, we shall play a game of "not me" in order to decide who that is. eh hem " *not me* "
@JogInTheFog
@JogInTheFog 9 лет назад
Even my Republican doctor agrees.
@wizltheblondealien675
@wizltheblondealien675 9 лет назад
My mom could have died because she was sexually harassed by her bosses so she refused to go to work so got fired and she got extremely sick and could not afford the medication. thankfully we're out of that situation because my mom has a good job again. but I could have been a child without any parents because their only parent died when he was 12! if you're wondering why my mother did not get anything out of being sexually harassed it's because her bosses refused to compensate her and refused to go to court. I know that this situation might be rare but it still happens and could have radically changed my life. I'm sure similar situations have happened though that really did change lives, and that is disturbing.
@brandonfrancey5592
@brandonfrancey5592 9 лет назад
Wizl The Blonde Alien I don't think you understand what the single payer system is.
@Boobashoob
@Boobashoob 8 лет назад
I pay 4 times as much for 1/4 of the care I used to get.
@Boobashoob
@Boobashoob 8 лет назад
+poptart 523 Well, my healthcare was much less... The ACA came along and made it super fucking expensive. Now I'm not the smartest man on earth... But something tells me that Obamacare had something to do with my healthcare costs quadrupling.
@Boobashoob
@Boobashoob 8 лет назад
+poptart 523 Oh. My. God. Are you trolling? Or incredibly dim? My healthcare was about $60 per month for 7 years. Since the ACA it has risen from $249 per month to $290. What kind of bullshit is the media feeding you?
@Boobashoob
@Boobashoob 8 лет назад
+poptart 523 Never entirely blamed the ACA for rising healthcare costs. I think you're reaching for things that aren't there. Go back to worshipping the government. Don't worry, momma's always gonna take care of you.
@Boobashoob
@Boobashoob 8 лет назад
+poptart 523 I work in the healthcare system. Have for 7 years. I 100% blame government for the rising cost in healthcare. I do this in confidence because I have seen thousands upon thousands of studies, laws, regulations and anecdotal accounts of the government being completely incompetent by hiring people who know nothing about healthcare (like you) to make laws about healthcare.
@Boobashoob
@Boobashoob 8 лет назад
+poptart 523 Drug companies have been pandered to by beloved candidates such as Clinton and Bush. Given favoritism in the stock market, regulations that benefit them and destroy the competition. You're left with major corporations that are allowed to price gouge because the government specifically wrote laws that allowed them to do it.
@GaviLazan
@GaviLazan 9 лет назад
So, does this count as educational?
@exxinferis24
@exxinferis24 9 лет назад
***** I'm demanding a punishment right now!
@untappedinkwell
@untappedinkwell 9 лет назад
I dunno. I mean, I think so--there was a lot of information in there, but it seems borderline at best.
@vlogbrothers
@vlogbrothers 9 лет назад
I sure hope so. That's up to nerdfighteria to decide though. -John
@GiuliaSocolof
@GiuliaSocolof 9 лет назад
Tbh I kind of hope it isn't... I want to see another punishment. Sorry John
@LisaMahler82
@LisaMahler82 9 лет назад
I'm thinking yes. Research and sources to me says it's pretty solidly educational!
@nolanthiessen1073
@nolanthiessen1073 9 лет назад
Socialist propaganda! /sarcasm
@deadtv8421
@deadtv8421 8 лет назад
Q: Is Obamacare Working? A: NO.
@meyou3509
@meyou3509 8 лет назад
deadtv once again...it is better than anything that has ever been implemented before. Also, its not a long term solution...obama cant just say poof you all get free healthcare 24/7 forever...he just made it easier for people with little money to pay for something they rightfully deserve at a price they can afford.
@joescott
@joescott 9 лет назад
The first Vlogbrothers video I ever saw was the one where John compared the US healthcare system to a giant pig at the state fair. One of the best takedowns of our healthcare system I've ever seen. Been a fan ever since.
@sackclothandashes998
@sackclothandashes998 9 лет назад
...but what does Hank think about Obamacare? Since I'm pretty sure he was directly affected by it because of his ulcerative colitis.
@TheVlog
@TheVlog 9 лет назад
I believe he's posted on tumblr several times talking about how he supports it
@mykadassano438
@mykadassano438 9 лет назад
And John has talked about how it helped Hank.
@chrisbailey5713
@chrisbailey5713 9 лет назад
And he literally talked to Obama himself about it
@sackclothandashes998
@sackclothandashes998 9 лет назад
Chris Bailey Oh, I never saw that. I had been meaning to watch that interview!
@Meloncov
@Meloncov 9 лет назад
SACKCLOTHANDASHES When he met with Obama, he thanked him for it, and had him sign a reciet for his medication.
@GuitarZombie
@GuitarZombie 8 лет назад
This law put me in debt. I hate debt. I do not even have a credit card.
@Zeppelinlv2007
@Zeppelinlv2007 8 лет назад
+GuitarZombie Me too. It tried to solve the ~44 million uninsured coverage problem. So the working poor or preexisting condition uninsured got help (yay for them), but created a whole new monster. Insurance for now most of the working class to middle class, the ones that are still working and paying taxes, has skyrocketed. The "Affordable" part has disappeared. Not just me, but a handful of people I know are stuck. If they get insurance, they are in debt or unable to pay the bills. If they don't, they are penalized by the IRS (subtract tax refund) and no health coverage. Hope you don't get sick or get into an accident. Obamacare is atrocious.
@jamesrobinson949
@jamesrobinson949 7 лет назад
I can't afford the AFFORDABLE CARE ACT. It's too expensive.
@mcmxcix1237
@mcmxcix1237 7 лет назад
Don't worry AHCA is around the corner.
@TheRobstargames
@TheRobstargames 9 лет назад
*Lives in Britain* *Has NHS* *Laughs*
@Finimabob
@Finimabob 9 лет назад
That said the NHS is in jeopardy and, if the conservatives stay in power, will be significantly closer to the american system by the end of the next term.
@nicklandkroon8182
@nicklandkroon8182 9 лет назад
Lives in Australia. Has Medicare. Laughs.
@whydidthetilda
@whydidthetilda 9 лет назад
Abraham Lincoln It just needs more funding. Simple as that. And it's not as though the money's just going to be frittered away, the things that need the most funding imo (ie non-emergency stuff and mental health) are things that will cause a lot more people to be able to work regularly and thus pay more taxes.
@samrodriguez4692
@samrodriguez4692 9 лет назад
Lives in America yells AMURICA... (Has shitty Medicare plans)
@boobpoocacca2064
@boobpoocacca2064 9 лет назад
Sam Rodriguez *Lives in America, Calls Britain England, Pisses people off*
@margaretsawyer1701
@margaretsawyer1701 8 лет назад
My family can't afford healthcare because of the so called 'affordable care act', so I haven't had health care for several years now.
@margaretsawyer1701
@margaretsawyer1701 8 лет назад
+Livid Yes, but the fines are less then what we would have to pay for healthcare.
@thomashynes4042
@thomashynes4042 8 лет назад
There is an advantage to purchasing the lowest cost plan avail in the exchange however. lets say its a Bronze Plan at a cost of $75 per person, sure the deductible is $3000 and total out of pocket expense is $3000 but here is what people forget... Lets assume that you don't have any health insurance, you go to the doctor and the full charge for that visit is $200... out out insurance you pay 100% of the $200 I have the same plan as you, see above, I go to the doctor as well and the charge is $200...the insurance company has negotiated rates with the doctor so I may only pay $100 for that very same visit.
@margaretsawyer1701
@margaretsawyer1701 8 лет назад
Thomas Hynes Yes I know how healthcare is supposed to work, but it has become so expensive under Obamacare that my family can't afford it anymore, and it's just getting more expensive. So yes, having health insurance would be great, but we can not afford it anymore because of Obamacare.
@BewareTheLilyOfTheValley
@BewareTheLilyOfTheValley 8 лет назад
+Baz Cottt That's how I was as well, which is why I can't hate the ACA as others. Granted, I don't make much money and that's pretty much the target audience of the Act. I had just started working at Walmart last year in October during enrollment time. Due to being new...and that less than half the employees are full time...I wasn't eligible for insurance and would never be eligible unless I switched positions (I was a cashier and no cashier is full-time there, both a blessing due to how long you're on your feet and a curse for how little it means you'll make). So, knowing winter was coming up and that I was likely to get winter colds and whatnot, I signed up for insurance at Healthcare(dot)gov and a low-level plan at $50 a month was perfect for me. I unfortunately lost it when I became unemployed from Walmart due to other health issues (iron deficiency that makes it hard to stand on my feet for a long time...I only just found that out while working there). I'd like to sign up again this upcoming year, so long as it's around the same price. The insurance at my new job is much more expensive and I wouldn't even have anyone on my plan other than myself. I wish I'd had it a couple of years ago when I got strep throat and had very little money for going to a clinic (I was between pay checks). I had to go to the emergency room...a cost I'm still trying to pay off.
@gasuosjerky2661
@gasuosjerky2661 7 лет назад
Margaret Sawyer but it sounds like u stopped having isurance years before the aca was created
@sarahnewman6773
@sarahnewman6773 9 лет назад
"Have you ever met an actual British person?" I am an actual British person!
@KajoFox
@KajoFox 9 лет назад
Me, too! GO UKoGBaI!
@JDesch
@JDesch 9 лет назад
I've been to Britain, and you guys smoke a lot.
@bulman07
@bulman07 9 лет назад
Me too! pipnina you missed an N
@KajoFox
@KajoFox 9 лет назад
***** Yes, yes we do. Well I don't. But many around me do. But then we're allowed to start at 16 so.
@KajoFox
@KajoFox 9 лет назад
Andrew Bulman Dang, I did! Ok: GOGO! UKoGBaNI!
@MrAdy0207
@MrAdy0207 8 лет назад
yes but countries like France , the Uk and so on don't pay their doctors 350k $ / year
@richig4232
@richig4232 8 лет назад
AMA, monopoly. Doctor glut they called it.
@PuzzleMessage
@PuzzleMessage 8 лет назад
350k? O.o wow is it true?
@nonyabiz5326
@nonyabiz5326 8 лет назад
If you are skilled at your job. Which is to "do no harm" people will line up and pay a lot of money so you don't kill them with bad medical care like a bad/lazy/etc doctor may do. That is how the free market works. Well it did until socialized medical insurance started forcing all doctors, good or bad, to accept 5 bucks to try and fix a gun shot victims.. "Breaking news 10-28-16": Obamacare premiums going up Question. Why give insurance companies a good profit, to pay doctors, when you could just pay doctors directly and skip the cost of insurance bureaucracy? If doctors weren't forced (via crony insurance legislation) to charge everyone the same, doctors could accept $5-10-15 bucks for annual checkups. And there would be a lot more people being seen than with obamacare.
@Ccleanerable
@Ccleanerable 8 лет назад
On average a French general practitioner earns 7,000 dollars a month after tax, while his American colleague earns 14,000 dollars, so yes, American doctors earn twice as much. In France the price of a doctor's visit is subject to negotiation between social security and the French Medical Association while in the US the American Medical Association can decide alone, this is nothing less than a cartel. However, a French doctor has no student debt to repay, or very little, so they do not need as much monies.
@richig4232
@richig4232 8 лет назад
Ccleanerable It stil wouldn't matter with Scholarships, if you have many legitimate competeing associations making new lower cost medical schools that would lower the cost. It is obvoius less schools= more cost. It's artifical scarcity. With a 95% emplyment rate millions would study medicine just to secure a paycheck but the AMA bans them.
@johnryan3622
@johnryan3622 8 лет назад
Things are better than before? No. Not at all. Everyone I know at median US income is paying more than they were and getting less coverage. I love when people only look at adjusted and selected numbers, and ignore the experience of everyone around around them.
@The757packerfan
@The757packerfan 8 лет назад
+John Ryan Exactly. My insurance costs didn't go up, but the amount of coverage got cut. It skews statistics to only talk about the price of an insurance plan, when that same plan has coverage cuts.
@StephySon
@StephySon 8 лет назад
The main question is are you saying that in terms of Health Care that the vast majority of Americans are worse off now compared to before, because before it seemed worse. But then I was a child in those days so perhaps its not fair of me to say as I go off what my parents say and they said it was worse compared to now because now under the act my family is all covered.
@BigBookofSales
@BigBookofSales 8 лет назад
It's important to look back on whether this law is working or not. And you have done a very fair analysis. However, here's a case for why this law is disastrous and will surely have to change by 2017, or there will be a citizen's revolt. 1. At 4:10 you say that premiums are rising slower than they have historically. Check it again during the 2016 open enrollment (8 months after you made this video). Premiums are going up again - as much as 35% higher. Many families are now paying more for their health insurance than for their rent or mortgage (hence the impending citizen's revolt). This is untenable. Anyone who says this program is working is obviously getting their insurance through an employer, or getting a full subsidy. People who have to pay the premiums out of their pocket would disagree that it's working. 2. You mention the key point - not only is the health insurance becoming unaffordable, it's terrible coverage - with deductibles going up higher and higher, copays increasing, and insurance companies denying more and more high dollar claims. Now their new trick is to make it harder to get through their phone system, so a smaller percentage of people will have the time and patience to fight for their claim. 3. 4:16 you say more insurance companies are participating. The months following this video saw some really bad news for that argument. In June 2015, Assurant Health pulled out completely of the health insurance business - they were losing billions. In October United Health Group announced that they lost $7B on Obamacare policies and that 2016 will be their last year participating in the Affordable Care Act. 4. Here is the real failure. At 6:20 you say the most important thing. The ACA was supposed to get sick people (and poor people) insured without disturbing the ecosystem for the rest of the population that already had insurance before the law. This is the real failure. While millions of pre-existing sick people now have insurance (mission accomplished) now millions of middle class families who make too much to receive subsidies - either cannot afford insurance any longer, or have seem their premiums double and in some cases triple. 5. This was supposed to be a job creator. The point was that you could leave your job to start new companies and create more jobs. Instead of relying on your employer for insurance, you could go on the exchange. If your employer is covering most or all of your health insurance premiums STAY ON THAT JOB. Paying for it yourself - especially if you have a spouse and children - is way too expensive. 6. The ACA is the worst possible solution. Leaving mega insurance companies to raise rates, increase deductibles, not pay large claims - after all they need to make a profit. The correct solution would have been Universal / Single Payer / Medicare for all. The other correct solution would have been to open up competition by allowing insurance companies to offer their products in all states. As it is now, filing state by state is cumbersome and extremely expensive for insurance companies - and state agencies are influenced by existing insurance companies to not allow more competitors. In the open competition model, the government would have to help people with pre-existing conditions - because left to their own devices, insurance companies would not cover them. Open up competition, or have the government pay for everyone. Either way has its problems - but the Affordable Care Act is a horrible middle ground solution that is killing the middle class with higher premiums every month (and less coverage). The anger over this law is widespread throughout the US. Liberals don't like it because it doesn't go far enough, and conservatives, of course, hate it.
@Lithilic
@Lithilic 8 лет назад
+BigBookofSales Exactly! Thanks for taking the time to post all that.
@BigBookofSales
@BigBookofSales 8 лет назад
Adding even further to the argument that this law is a complete failure: Blue Cross Blue Shield (headquartered in North Carolina) just announced on January 30, 2016 that they lost $400M in the state of North Carolina by offering an ACA plan in North Carolina. $400M loss in just one state. Even though they raised rates 32% - that is not even close to recouping their losses. Assurant Health, United Health Care, and now BCBS have lost BILLIONS - and it seems that the monthly premiums for the middle class just keep going up and up. Here's why the law has failed and insurance companies continue to lose money. North Carolina is one of many states that did not expand Medicaid. This means that poor people in NC can't get Medicaid, so they go on Obamacare. Of course, since they're poor - they get a full subsidy and pay nothing for their health insurance. They don't even have to worry about the deductible because their subsidy is so high that they get the Cadillac plans for nothing or next to nothing. Now, for the first time in their lives, millions of poor people have health insurance. So what's the first thing they do? Let me get my knee fixed. Let me get my diabetes tested. Let me get my cataract surgery. Let me get tested for cancer. Billions of dollars in large claims from people who aren't paying a penny for their insurance. As the insurance companies pay out these large claims - who suffers from the insurance companies losing money??? Everybody who works, has a job, and pays for their own insurance now sees their premiums going up, their deductibles and copays going up. Poor people are going to get their health insurance free again next year. On any measure, this law is a complete failure. When asked about Obamacare, Hillary Clinton tells us that it's working, it just needs to be tweaked around the edges. Mark my words (February 2016) - if she clings to this position, she will lose the election. People are beyond fed up with this law. And those people include traditional middle class Democrats who are paying over $1,000/month for garbage health insurance. (And next year that will be over $1,300) Good thing for Hillary there are no more rate increases before the election.
@BigBookofSales
@BigBookofSales 8 лет назад
+Lithilic You're very welcome. It's a great conversation. I would love to hear from anyone who can defend the Affordable Care Act.
@BigBookofSales
@BigBookofSales 8 лет назад
+Kozak Ivan I sell off-Obama Care health policies - I talk to families like yours every day. Politicians have no idea how upset average families are. I could probably save you $12,000/year and get you real coverage. Let me know.
@wigsmey4462
@wigsmey4462 8 лет назад
+Kozak Ivan maybe we should just get universal healthcare then.
@kimmer6
@kimmer6 8 лет назад
Affordable Care? What horse shit. My Kaiser went from $360 a month with $20 co pay and $2000 deductible to $580 a month, $5000 deductible and the co pay is $60 minimum and sometimes they charge $100. Just this week I FINALLY went in to a dermatologist at Kaiser and she prescribed medication. For the tube of cream and a bottle of pills Kaiser tried to charge me $830.00 . I refused the payment, refused the pills and cream. What the hell is so AFFORDABLE with this ripoff? I have the Bronze plan which is the cheapest... so I pay $7000 a year if I never see a doctor. It has the highest deductible. If I want their lowest deductible on the Gold Plan it will cost me $11,000 a year. WHAT THE HELL IS SO AFFORDABLE ABOUT THAT? I pay out of my own pocket. I'm retired with limited income, not old enough at 62 to get Medicare.
@Quercuspalustris50
@Quercuspalustris50 8 лет назад
+kimmer6 Try Health Net next year then. My premium for Gold - No Deductible - was $290/mo.
@kimmer6
@kimmer6 8 лет назад
+Quercuspalustris50 Thank you. Kaiser just jacked me to $635 a month. I'm retired. How the hell am I supposed to pay for this ripoff?
@curmudgeon1968
@curmudgeon1968 8 лет назад
+kimmer6 The ACA has a lot of propagandists like this that try to tout it as being anything but a complete pile of crap. They cook their numbers to show that the numbers of full time employees receiving healthcare has gone up, but ignore the fact that the increase in job numbers has been among part time employees who are exempt. They show that there has been an increase in number of insured by 4% in the 7 year time frame, but don't take into account what percentage the overall population has increased in the same time. And those thousands of dollar deductibles that everyone said going into this were coming, they just pretend like they don't exist. Their explanation is that the states are magically covering them. I have found personally that it is cheaper to pay for everything out of pocket, and pay the penalty than to buy the ACA plan.
@coustoe
@coustoe 8 лет назад
+kimmer6 John is a avowed Socialist, His understanding of basic economics is right there with Hugo Chavez and Robert Mugabe.
@markgoodair2978
@markgoodair2978 8 лет назад
move to a civilised country like Britain.
@ikeikeforty
@ikeikeforty 8 лет назад
My Dad had to sell his private practice to a large hospital company because of the heavy costs to doctors from this bill.
@DavidWild65
@DavidWild65 8 лет назад
+Isaac Gordon That means he was making too much money. Free market baby.
@siimkuriks4703
@siimkuriks4703 8 лет назад
+David Wild I'm sorry, but how the hell is government intervention free market?
@Biggnuncio
@Biggnuncio 8 лет назад
+Siim Kuriks Standard issue mentality of people in this country. Blame everything on the free market even if the guy just directly said it was new legislation that caused the problem, blame the free market because apparently government can cause no problems and doesn't influence the market.
@Biggnuncio
@Biggnuncio 8 лет назад
***** Even Ben Bernanke has admitted the role of the government in the 1929 stock market crash and the extent of the depression afterward. The Treaty of Versailles after WWI caused WWII, not our depression. The crash of 1929 itself would have been over and done with after about a year had the government not imposed such massive interventions on the economy. That depression, and likely the crash itself, was quite obviously the result of bad government policy. There were enormous works projects, huge tax increases, destructive tariffs, minimum wage law, destruction of crops and livestock by the government to keep prices high while people were starving. You name it, the government was there to screw it up.
@Matney831
@Matney831 8 лет назад
+Isaac Gordon Our local drug store Sax had to sell out to walgreens also now drugs seem to cost more than prior
@charlesvonhabsburg3107
@charlesvonhabsburg3107 8 лет назад
Obamacare cost my mom her job and her insurance and insurance prices went way up and coverage went down. It is a disaster.
@alchemicpunk1509
@alchemicpunk1509 6 лет назад
Straight up lie detected.
@QDibieYT
@QDibieYT 5 лет назад
How?
@markdutta4467
@markdutta4467 3 года назад
@@Dan-zt7uj Asserting a claim requires evidence and reason. Charles Von Hasburg has not given a logical correlation from Obamacare to her mother's job.
@rocknregalia
@rocknregalia 8 лет назад
Since this act I have acquired over $9000 in medical bills, with insurance, paid those off in less than 6 months, and went from paying $35/month for healthcare to $750/month for the same healthcare. Prior to the act I paid, at one job, $0/month and had an incredible PPO that covered pretty much everything. I also went from being able to get a well women exam yearly, to now it is every 3-5 years. My parents went from paying no penalty for not having insurance to paying a penalty because they cannot afford the exchanges, therefore they must pay the tax/fine. Thus, though the numbers cumulatively may look better, my personal experience has been higher cost overall for less care.
@Reina-1-43
@Reina-1-43 8 лет назад
Exactly. And with some plans having crazy deductibles like $10,000, people are STILL not able to afford it. Not many people at all can afford to pay $10,000+ in medical bills a year. Medical bills are still going to go unpaid - probably even more so now. People who worked hard for decades for their good insurance now have to pay more than ever before and most have to change doctors after being told that wouldn't happen. No one should be fined for not being able to afford something. Absolutely ridiculous.
@stefansanders1854
@stefansanders1854 8 лет назад
+Jayna Lascaibar You have to apply for Obama Care not by your job's insurance. Those will go up because it is not Obama Care, which is cheaper.
@rocknregalia
@rocknregalia 8 лет назад
Craig S. Sanders My parents were quoted $800 on Obamacare through the state. Previously they could purchase through Blue Shield for around $540. It is not always cheaper. It would be ignorant to think it was one size fits all. And it should be cheaper for everyone, not cause those who work ridiculously hard (typically 60-70 hours per week) in life threatening jobs like my husband to have to pay more. Thus, it benefits some but not all. And a person with a masters degree should not need government subsidies or help. That is why I wen to school, so I could have my own crap together and leave the safety of my parents.
@elora2525
@elora2525 8 лет назад
where do your parents pay the penalty? doing my taxes for this year,I get a penalty of $1500.00 if I answer yes if i have obama care and no penalty if i answer no
@testtickles8755
@testtickles8755 8 лет назад
+Craig S. Sanders Obamacare is not a type of insurance plan lol - Obamacare (ACA) is a set of healthcare laws. No matter how or where you get your health insurance, it's all "Obamacare".
@redjetsen1002
@redjetsen1002 4 года назад
unaffordable health care act...I keep expecting the crash course music
@jbm0745
@jbm0745 7 лет назад
Before the law took effect I was paying about $470/mth with $6,500 deductible for a healthy family of four with no medical issues at all. Once the law took effect, that plan got thrown out as being not compliant with the new law. So I lost that plan. 1st year on the exchange plan, the best deal I found was abt $780/month. I qualified for a subsidy that brought my out of pocket cost to abt $420/mth but my deductible was $12,000! If I would have kept the same deductible as my previous plan ($6,500) it would have cost abt $1,200/mth. This coming year of 2017 the plan I bought through the exchange is going up from $750/mth (with subsidy $450/mth out of pocket) to $1,130/mth ($760/mth out of pocket with subsidy) for the same $12,000 deductible. And this family of 4 is still healthy with no health issues. So as you can see Obamacare clearly isn't work for this middle class family. How can I pay a $750/mth premium for something I cannot use until I've paid out $12,000 for a claim? That makes no economic sense. Yet I must or I'll have to pay a penalty. Clearly, I was better off before Obamacare took effect. I paid a lower monthly premium, I was not a burden to the system as I needed no subsidy, my deductible was half of what it is now and my participation was voluntary.
@EASYTIGER10
@EASYTIGER10 7 лет назад
I live in the UK. About £1300 of my combined annual tax and national insurance pays for the National Health Service. At current exchange rates that's about $1650/year or $138/month (less than the average American tax payer pays for Medicaid and Medicare - an involuntary tax most get little or no benefit from) For my $138/month, I can see my doctor as often as I need, get a huge range of high quality basic and higher level healthcare including emergency, elective and palliative care, all FREE AT POINT OF TREATMENT - no "deductibles". I can get low cost prescription medicine (free for the elderly and low income). And if I should want goldplated care beyond that provided by the NHS, I'm perfectly at liberty to buy a whole range of private healthcare options at competitive prices. You may have personally been better off before Obamacare, but you'd be MASSIVELY better off with a system like the UK National Health Service.
@kcheznyc
@kcheznyc 7 лет назад
EASYTIGER10 you Brits provide all those illegal Muslims flowing into the UK with the same type of healthcare? Thank God for Brexit!
@tylerdurden3722
@tylerdurden3722 7 лет назад
Big dog ... The problem is not really with Obamacare. There are three reasons why Obamacare never would have worked anyway. (or any other attempt at universal healthcare) 1. Obama is a dishonest man who knew it would not work but sold the idea to people anyway to get elected. It was originally called HillaryCare. When Hillary lost against Obama, she sold him Obamacare in exhange for access to her well oiled campaign machine. 2. Insurance, Pharmaceuticals etc ...these cost more than double in the US than in the UK. This is result of monopolies that formed for various reasons, countless middlemen, organisations like Medicaid are prohibited from negotiating prices, etc, etc 3. Both the US and the UK has between 5 to 6% unemployment. Unfortunately that's more disingenuousness by Obama and other politicians. The Labour Force Participation Index in the UK is about 80%....Whereas it's around 60% in the US. And this is the main reason why other developed countries have affordable universal healthcare while we don't. In the UK 80% of the Labour forces carries the burden for the other 20%. So that's a 25% burden. In the US 60% of the Labour Force is forced to carry the burden of the other 40% (who are non productive able bodied adults) for there to be universal healthcare. That's a 67% burden...on top of the fact that other health related costs are twice than the costs in other developed countries. Also, even people who "participate" in the labour force but earn too little puts even more of a burden on the system. Anyway, all this money is going somewhere...enriching someone. In my opinion, that is the true purpose of HillaryCare (aka Obamacare)
@rabbitskinner
@rabbitskinner 7 лет назад
Big Dog Brexit won't make any difference
@brettaurich2362
@brettaurich2362 7 лет назад
Before your policy had a clause that it would be "cancelled if you get sick", sure its cheaper, but it was garbage. Without the ACA the insurance companies simply dropped their sick patients to make money and it was legal!
@221B-n2x
@221B-n2x 9 лет назад
I'm Canadian, and one of the things I am most proud of my country for is universal health care. I would rather pay higher taxes for the rest of my life and never have to set foot in a hospital than to see a fellow Canadian be unable to pay for a life-saving procedure. How can you be proud to be American but be uncaring towards the health of Americans?
@d4rk0v3
@d4rk0v3 9 лет назад
The law also forces people to get healthcare and adds on a hefty tax penalty that increases every year you don't have it. There are millions of Americans that can't afford even the cheapest plans on Obamacare that also can't get government subsidies to cover it. With the tax penalty increasing, they are being totally crushed. Oh, but how convenient of you to fail to mention that. How wonderful that you didn't talk about the people whose lives it's currently ruining.
@d4rk0v3
@d4rk0v3 9 лет назад
d4rk0v3 Don't even get me started at how much deductibles went up.
@Letsgobobcats
@Letsgobobcats 9 лет назад
d4rk0v3 I do agree that the Affordable Care Act might have a few points that should be fixed, but repealing it completely is NOT the answer. Especially because by executing a full repeal, our deficit will INCREASE by over $350 Billion, while at the same time forcibly stripping over 15 Million Americans of health insurance. That sounds like a double whammy to me. One important change to make to the law is to expand the government subsidies to the people you mentioned -- the "millions of Americans that can't afford even the cheapest plans on Obamacare that also can't get government subsidies to cover it."
@IDontLikeJamOrJelly
@IDontLikeJamOrJelly 9 лет назад
d4rk0v3 Correct me if I'm wrong, but I believe I read somewhere that if you cannot afford healthcare, even under obamacare, you don't have to pay the tax? Again, I don't have a source but I'm like 99% sure thats how it works.
@cglenn2586
@cglenn2586 9 лет назад
+Krista Brenholt I believe, ideally, that is how it is supposed to work, but the reality is a little different. My family still has to pay the penalty and we can not afford healthcare, we simply do not have the extra money every month after rent, utilities, and other bills (student loans, groceries, etc). On paper, it looks like we make enough, but once cost of living is factored in, we cannot. Unfortunately, the cost of living adjustment, if it exists at all, is not adequate for a lot of us.
@IDontLikeJamOrJelly
@IDontLikeJamOrJelly 9 лет назад
cglenn2586 Ah, that makes sense. I suppose I didn't look into it critically enough. Thanks for the information, I may have to do some research and rethink my opinion a bit!
@augmenautus
@augmenautus 9 лет назад
"There are no death panels" Unless you have to get your healthcare from the VA.
@DavidWild65
@DavidWild65 8 лет назад
+augmenautus rex Or HAP
@llurendt2108
@llurendt2108 8 лет назад
+augmenautus rex The VA has worked great for me so far other than the no dental coverage thing.
@Liutgard
@Liutgard 8 лет назад
+augmenautus rex I've found with Medicaid (I'm on disability and Social Security is running my healthcare through it), they don't really have Death Panels. But. While they'll keep you alive, sometimes it is just barely. They won't necessarily allow physical therapy and such to better your condition, but they will throw pain pills at it- in controlled amounts, of course. Several problems I have could have been prevented or at least made better with appropriate care awhile back. But now they're worse, and now the costs for keeping me alive are bigger. Friggin' bean counters...
@Liutgard
@Liutgard 8 лет назад
+cupera1 Cite your sources. I've read the bill- in its entirety, and nothing in it includes what you've said.
@christianmelz1512
@christianmelz1512 8 лет назад
+cupera1 Idearly thats all true. However with a system using 17% of its GDP vs everyone else in Europe using 10% of it GDP while providing wider and better service it simply not true that the effects above will have the effect described. The system has been corrupted for so long that 7% of the GDP is lost! (not finically someone makes that money) Therefore Lobbying, Marketing (paying of doctors) to many descriptions and fully profit only run clinics are the causes of it. These are all factors to be addressed. The healthcare and drug industry is simply too profitable! thanks to a ongoing deregulation for the past 30years.
@btbrotherton
@btbrotherton 8 лет назад
If you want to fix the affordability of our healthcare you have to introduce competition. Health Insurance companies should be forced to take on a percentage based system, where they cover a certain percentage of certain procedures - you still pay a small premium and those percentages can be as high as 99%. On top of this hospitals and doctots should be forced to make their prices public. This stops our current system where people don't care where they get care or what price gets charged to the insurance company, so doctors and hospitals can charge whatever they want. It allows capitalism to fix what the blind socialism that is our health insurance industry has created. We can go single payer for emergency care since the injured would have no choice where they go and would most likely just go to the nearest hospital.
@Th3Sh1n1gam1
@Th3Sh1n1gam1 7 лет назад
Could you imagine if we had Competitive Law Enforcement such as municipal officers and high way police? Only the people who could pay for good service would be given good service.
@misatokatsuragi6145
@misatokatsuragi6145 7 лет назад
The affordable care act is NOT working five years later, it is bankrupting the middle class. And this stuff about pre existing conditions not being covered until obamacare is a flat out lie. 46 states had state laws requiring coverage of pre existing conditions as well as high risk pools that they no longer have thanks to Obamacare. I know I am one with a pre, and my insurance was affordable, and I got to keep my doctor and my insurance, NONE of which has been true with Obamacare. My coverage is no longer affordable, and I am not eligible for any assistance, I had to change doctors and I didn't get to keep the insurance I had, as was the case with millions of other people after Obama lied to us about this over 20 times and the ACA was passed, so this dude needs to get his facts straight.
@Chrnan6710
@Chrnan6710 2 года назад
He has his facts perfectly straight, with sources for everything he said. What he does not have straight is what is not stated in the cited statistics, such as what you mentioned here.
@HamRadioCrashCourse
@HamRadioCrashCourse 9 лет назад
It's just a bummer that we (the people) think government is the only way to solve the healthcare issue. People were covered at a much higher percentage when they pooled their money into fraternal societies. These societies were ultimately struck down by government (UK and US) and replaced with onerous laws that prevented us to provide for ourselves.
@tlk2348
@tlk2348 6 лет назад
hoshnasi Medicare works in other countries. I bet you drive on roads. Who do you think pays for them??? I'm sick and tired of my healthcare going to pay for rich CEOs who make millions. How about instead of paying trillions in wars we invest in our own people in healthcare and Education.
@1337Jogi
@1337Jogi 6 лет назад
The thing is, a free market works wonders in alot of sectors but not with healthcare. A person will not negotiate the price of his health, not really. If it is necessary a sick person will spend every cent he has to get healthy again. You can walk away and not buy a new phone. You will not walk away if you or your child needs a medication. You would probably think about risking jail to save your close ones. That is inherently different to other markets. In almost every other market maybe apart from food people will have the option to not buy a product. The thing with food is, that it is relatively easy to provide for yourself or import so prices cannot rise very high. With healthcare the free market tries to squeeze the last penny out of the system, which is a normal thing for a market to do. There are only so many big companies involved and they have a silent agreement to try and make it as profitable as possible for them. The patient will have no other way and pay if he can. In universal healthcare systems the government tries to push down prices. They can and will negotiate since they can decide wether your companies will be the provider of a medic or service or if someone else will be the one. A state could even decide to negate your patent on a cerain medication in the name of the greater good if he thinks that you misuse your rights. I am not saying other systems are perfect but last time I needed and MRI it did cost me 0€ and I got one after like 6 days. It wasnt even urgent or I would have gotten it the next day. Know what? I don't even know how much of my money goes into the system but I don't really care because the feeling being safe is priceless.
@boulevard14
@boulevard14 4 года назад
What is it with RU-vidrs changing their seating position every 2 seconds??
@Jonzouz123
@Jonzouz123 5 лет назад
ACA had a major negative impact for the self employed.
@TheConnorBennett
@TheConnorBennett 9 лет назад
oh boy i love watching videos about America's bad government. see you next week, john.
@Romanticoutlaw
@Romanticoutlaw 9 лет назад
Hey. You. Scroll back up. You don't want to be in a comments section about obamacare, no matter what side you're on.
@ericm1839
@ericm1839 8 лет назад
except now people who DO work for big companies get to pay for healthcare twice, because what was once part of their negotiated wage is now also coming out of their paycheck
@rnhtube
@rnhtube 8 лет назад
Only if they make more than 250k a year
@ericm1839
@ericm1839 8 лет назад
Russell Harrison no, because it's still part of their taxes
@ericm1839
@ericm1839 8 лет назад
Thomas Hynes all im saying is that a portion of your taxes go to obamacare whether or not you have insurance, so if you DO have insurance that isnt obamacare, you're paying your "fair share" for obamacare while also paying for your own insurance.
@thomashynes4042
@thomashynes4042 8 лет назад
Fair Share is a liberal code for spreading the wealth around, having come back from a vacation in a country where the government controls wages, benefits etc...it is easy to see the effects of such practices.
@PixelEchoCreations
@PixelEchoCreations 7 лет назад
haha, sounds like you've been to Scandinavia
@LevviTalk
@LevviTalk 9 лет назад
I've been living in the U.S. for 7 months, I love this country as I love my own country (Brazil). However, the thing that bothers most is the lack of a public health system... I truly can't understand why so many people are selfish and belive that someone must die if he/she doesn't have money to afford medical care. I mean, it doesn't matter if the person is devil or saint, if you care a little bit about society it is easy to understand that you can't change a person's situation if she/he is not alive! I am saying that because some people believe that drug addicts or criminals deserve not affording medical care for example. This is crazy. I am glad that Obama Care took some steps on that, I hope one day America crates a real universal medical care system
@libbycurry9524
@libbycurry9524 9 лет назад
Thank you John, people are always complaining about America and the president. Even though there are still many people going without there is still change going on. Peoples always focus on the negatives but don't want to look at the whole picture. The positive, AND the negatives. I personally like Obama. It's not because I'm African American, it's because you can tell that he genuinely cares about the country and I don't expect him to fix all the mistakes that politicians did years ago.
@RyanStorey1231
@RyanStorey1231 9 лет назад
I agree. Admittedly, politics is like a foreign language to me, and I try so hard and often fail to understand every complex aspect of it. But I do know that the majority of people in my town and family (I live in SC, if that tells you anything) have no idea what they're talking about. Some of the arguments against Obamacare, I can understand: If you're so poor that you can't afford even the ACA and the $90 fee or the $370 for not signing up, but I'm sure it's not as simple as that. But I know that it has helped and benefited many people, especially those who don't work for big corporations and companies. I think that most people are against "Obamacare" because it simply has "Obama" in the title, thus southern conservatives get the impression that their President has "too much power" and are "forcing things that we don't need", which we kind of do need. And most people don't know that the ACA is the same thing as "Obamacare". It's just that people have adapted "Obamacare" to colloquially refer to it. I'm getting off topic, but President Obama is not as bad of a president as people think. I'm not saying his administration is perfect, but as you said, you can at least tell that he genuinely cares about the United States and things have improved. Which is why it infuriated me when President Obama visited a SC college a few weeks ago. Most of the responses from people here were astonishingly rude, vile, and outright ignorant. "He's not welcome in my state!" Uh, no, dude... He's the President... He is welcome in any state. That's kind of his job... Sorry for the rant. I really appreciated your comment. :)
@shivorath
@shivorath 9 лет назад
If he cares, give me someone who hates and loathes us. Oh wait, no that's what Obama does... Hates and loathes what makes America what it is.
@RyanStorey1231
@RyanStorey1231 9 лет назад
shivore Why would he run for President if he hated America so much? Citation needed.
@that1valentian769
@that1valentian769 9 лет назад
+Ryan1231 I agree with you. As all presidents who have ever lived can tell you, being prez is hard. Especially in a world that changes more in a day than in a decade back in the 19th century. Times are a-changing my fellow humans. I don't think he hates us, I think he is a passionate American who is proud of his heritage as both the traditionalist conservatives and the liberlistest democrats have this in common. They just want the best for their country, they just disagree on how to get there.
@Lordofzeldafed
@Lordofzeldafed 9 лет назад
***** he wanted the power. humans like power, and obama has proved that he is VERY human in that way.
@deepspacedoggydog
@deepspacedoggydog 8 лет назад
Hey there, here's a 2016 update. I've always had health insurance through my EMPLOYER. I went in for my Humira refill at Kaiser last month, only to find that the price has risen by over 200%. The federal negotiations with Kaiser reclassified my drug as a specialty. There is no comparable replacement. Thanks Obama!
@PoliticalWeekly
@PoliticalWeekly 6 лет назад
why is there no generic?
@cookiecrumb1018
@cookiecrumb1018 5 лет назад
That wasn't Obama's fault that was the Democrats who refused to keep the original plan due to them caring about money
@PoopaChallupa
@PoopaChallupa 4 года назад
Trump 2020 ACB 2020
@pramodabandaru3566
@pramodabandaru3566 3 года назад
To be fair, insurers are overcompensating for these price caps by overcharging elsewhere due to this act, afaik.
@RyanStorey1231
@RyanStorey1231 8 лет назад
He should probably acknowledge how many families who were insured previously have found their bills exponentially higher than before. The many families who were forced to change doctors even though they were promised that they wouldn't have to. The many people who had insurance previously via their employers, only for their companies to exploit loopholes and now those people cannot afford insurance nor the ACA. Despite all of that, I am grateful for the Affordable Care Act, because at least it's something and at least it's a start. I am grateful that as a young adult, I am able to be insured for the first time ever. And it has helped many of my friends and family who were previously unable to obtain insurance. But I can't deny the many people who were negatively affected by it. So I'm conflicted. I agree with the facts presented in this video, but I think ignores many of the detriments I mentioned before. Here's to hoping for major improvements, because we do need universal health care.
@EdgarFriendly-op3rn
@EdgarFriendly-op3rn 8 лет назад
+RyanX1231 No, no no. those of us in the VA have your magical "universal healthcare" good luck with that kiddo...I know your teachers probably love the idea, ask them how many currently live in the countries that do have it. Also, ask yourself if those types of systems are so super awesome, then why do people build rafts out of old antifreeze jugs and milk containers to float through shark infested waters to get here...its because America sucks right...
@llurendt2108
@llurendt2108 8 лет назад
+Eric SilverNLead The VA has worked great for me so far... no dental, but other than that, I can't really complain.
@EdgarFriendly-op3rn
@EdgarFriendly-op3rn 8 лет назад
It has worked for some, other have paperwork backed up, medications screwed up, doctors that just leave, or dont care. Not to mention the middle 2000's when everything was a mental health issue, or alcoholism. Those were the best years...now it's pain meds. The dental part sucks, but they are trying it...I think. At least I had a dental sign up sheet somewhere. The worst part is the new thing where you can use any doctor and they would cover it. You have to live like 35 miles from any primary care clinic for it to kick in, i live 34.5, and it doesn't cover me. No shit, they use the phrase "as the crow flies" not road mileage. At any rate, where were you at? What branch? I was Petty Officer 3rd class USN, Iraq 2003.
@Liutgard
@Liutgard 8 лет назад
+RyanX1231 If your employer is exploiting loopholes, it is because they're greedy and they SUCK. Don't blame it on the ACA, blame it on the execs.
@MrBracey100
@MrBracey100 8 лет назад
+RyanX1231 Very true, my insurance doubled with the advent of the ACA.
@evingrost2749
@evingrost2749 9 лет назад
Wait until you see the premiums this year... Your head is going to explode.
@Chocopacotaco1413
@Chocopacotaco1413 9 лет назад
+Evin Grost he also forgot to mention that before Obamacare, illegal immigrants were counted in the reporting of uninsured, inflating the numbers. After Obamacare in 2013, these individuals didn’t get insurance, but suddenly didn’t get counted any more in the most recent census. We have not changed like at all if you still count illegals so all those people who gained insurance might not actual have it
@Quercuspalustris50
@Quercuspalustris50 8 лет назад
+Evin Grost My premium for gold care was $290/mo.
@evingrost2749
@evingrost2749 8 лет назад
Quercuspalustris50 Yep, and because all the Co-ops are going bankrupt, the prices are going to keep going up and up every year. They've run several other insurance companies out of business before they went under, so now there's no competition and fewer companies with fewer options for consumers. To say they didn't think this through is the understatement of the century.
@evingrost2749
@evingrost2749 8 лет назад
***** Well, Obamacare ran several insurance companies out of business, or out of the health insurance side. That lowered competition. On top of that, the companies that stayed in the game lost a lot of money, so a lot of them are trying to recoup. Obamacare drove prices far higher than they ever would have gotten on their own, and this is only year 2. It will get worse and worse as time goes by.
@pauld315nan1
@pauld315nan1 8 лет назад
+poptart 523 obamcare is suppose to stop that. its called the affordable care act. when that sinks in. maybe you will get what he is getting at.
@Rocketninja200
@Rocketninja200 8 лет назад
In 2003 I had just graduated from high school. I took a job working in construction. This was a time in which I had the least education and fewest skills of my entire adult life and yet my insurance for a month was the cost of one day's pay. My deductible was $500. At age 20 I injured my hand and needed a surgery. I chose my doctor, who was a well renowned orthopedic surgeon who graduated top of his class at John Hopkins. He operated on my badly maimed hand for 8 hours. It cost me $500 out of pocket and to this day I have no problems with my hand. He was a remarkable doctor. Now we can't choose our doctors and deductibles ranged 4,000 to 6,000. My monthly premiums were never higher than $125 until the ACA became law. If I had to go through that again today I'm not sure I would be able to get the same quality of care.
@kated47
@kated47 8 лет назад
+Rocketninja200 That's not due to Obamacare. That's due to the fact that no one price shops hospitals and medical services, so they're allowed to charge exorbitant fees for care. (Due to having virtually no market competition.) Now that insurance companies are switching to outcomes based models (like incentivizing good outcomes and success rates) hospital prices have started to drop. It used to be that hospitals and insurance companies would make bank if they could get a physician to do an expensive test on a patient, now they are being rewarded more for good outcomes. It is only going to continue to get better.
@Rocketninja200
@Rocketninja200 8 лет назад
Kate D How does an insurance company make money paying for medical tests? ... They don't and never have. To them its an expense. Businesses try to reduce expenses while maintaining their reputations. This idea that hospitals and insurance companies were in bed with each other is udder nonsense.
@kated47
@kated47 8 лет назад
+Rocketninja200 'Udder nonsense', is that something that afflicts female cows? ;) Seriously though, just google, "insurance companies and hospitals incentivizing outcomes" and you'll get a whole wealth of information. I know it seems bleak right now, but things are actually getting better.
@henoch44
@henoch44 8 лет назад
ACA caused premiums and deductibles to skyrocket and I'm $30K in medical debt plus I have to pay a penalty for not being able to afford "affordable " care act. This is a complete disaster. So...what drugs were you on while making this video???????? Shame on You for posting all these lies on your channel!!!
@Zeppelinlv2007
@Zeppelinlv2007 8 лет назад
+henoch44 I wouldn't be surprised if people just quit their jobs, get on welfare/medicaid. The way this Obamacare is running is seriously disastrous for the working/middle class.
@THDTPSEvents
@THDTPSEvents 8 лет назад
+henoch44 I'm confused. You say that the ACA costs skyrocketed as though you were paying for a plan, and then ended up $30k in debt. Then you say you are paying a penalty for not having insurance? I'm sorry to hear about your debt. I'm just not sure where this is going. What insurance did you have before the ACA, if you had it? Do you think it would have cleared out that debt? Long before the ACA, the major cause of bankruptcies had been due to skyrocketed medical costs. I'm only stating that I'm not sure without the ACA, even if you were on it, the problem wouldn't have been the same or worse. I am sorry for your troubles though.
@henoch44
@henoch44 8 лет назад
Kemp Kennedy I had a surgery while I was waiting for ACA government website to get fixed. I pay penalty until today because I don't have insurance.
@booboosmit6436
@booboosmit6436 8 лет назад
+henoch44 lol the numbers show that Healthcare has been increasing in price for decades now. it's increasing prices has been proven to be increasing slower than ever before. for those saying their same insurance is more expensive now before: it would have gone up even more without the ACA. it barely changes the industry ,which is why most ppl want a single payer
@henoch44
@henoch44 8 лет назад
Prooven increasing slower?????????????? No, it skyrockets since obamacare. It would not be faster without "affordable" care. One more thing, I have to pay extortion when I don't get any insurance. That's illegal.
@bluewaters3100
@bluewaters3100 4 года назад
The real problem started when in the 1990's the insurance companies became "for profit" health plans. I had a great blue cross plan for a family of three. It was $76.00 a month...90/10 with $250.00 deductible. A year later it climbed to $500.00 a month. Then they dropped the plan and for the same amount I now had 80/20 with 500 deductible. That was 20 years ago. I am appalled at what families now pay for a really crappy plan. Our greedy corporations have ruined the middle class.
@itscork
@itscork 8 лет назад
It's worked wonderful for me. I've worked at the same company for nearly 30 years with my healthcare provided at no cost to me. Since the implementation of Obamacare, my company has cancelled our insurance and opted to pay the fine. I now purchase my insurance on the secondary for $640 per month for my family. Oh well. Who needs to own a newer vehicle anyway?
@russellkim8895
@russellkim8895 3 года назад
@@jocelyncollins7898 Dude my family had to pay a butt ton in taxes, I'm not going to say how much but this bill almost put us in debt
@vanthom9185
@vanthom9185 3 года назад
@@jocelyncollins7898 We are in a socialist nation right now😂 its for the rich though
@Isaacchadwicktardisbro331
@Isaacchadwicktardisbro331 9 лет назад
PUNISHMENT! PUNISHMENT! The video was over 7 minutes!!!
@Mithrilbard
@Mithrilbard 9 лет назад
Isaac chadwick And here is your standard reminder that educational videos are allowed to be over 4 minutes long.
@Isaacchadwicktardisbro331
@Isaacchadwicktardisbro331 9 лет назад
CrimsonOtaku Oh, still, we could use a punishment some time soon!
@keithsauve1222
@keithsauve1222 8 лет назад
Just a Canadian here. Enjoying a video... Enjoying my health.
@laststandforrighteousness9504
@laststandforrighteousness9504 8 лет назад
next stop Canada
@sammyjomaa6232
@sammyjomaa6232 8 лет назад
The health called inhumane by the Canadian Supreme Court?
@chineseboy3281
@chineseboy3281 8 лет назад
Please go read the ruling on this case "chaoulli v quebec
@keithsauve1222
@keithsauve1222 8 лет назад
* sips maple syrup *
@redarrowhead2
@redarrowhead2 8 лет назад
Ok just keep your patients from jumping borders to US doctors which happens a lot.
@SarahsSnakeShop
@SarahsSnakeShop 5 лет назад
I work for (have have for 7 years) a small business, wayyyy less than 50 employees. And I'm not, nor have ever been, paid enough to afford reasonable health insurance. They aren't required to pay for my health insurance, nor are they required to pay me enough to afford it. So, when I was sent to the emergency room last year for a UTI that made it to my bladder (and could have killed me) I had to pay the almost $3,000 ON MY OWN on just barely above minimum wage. Lets just say I lost a lot of weight between last year and this year, because I literally had to not eat some days to pay off medical bills. SOMETHING should be done.
@KiaranScath
@KiaranScath 9 лет назад
Yes, this video is educational. It was made with the intention of passing on information about the ACA. So no, John does not have a punishment coming for him. Good video though.
@GarthKlaus
@GarthKlaus 8 лет назад
interesting to see an update, especially after the SCOTUS ruling, and just announced 25% average increases and providers dropping out.
@meyou3509
@meyou3509 8 лет назад
GarthKlaus he did say its not a long term solution...
@johnisaacfelipe6357
@johnisaacfelipe6357 8 лет назад
GarthKlaus yeah, highest rate increase was 72% increase.
@FilipCordas
@FilipCordas 7 лет назад
Shushhh everything is fine!! Just keep your head in the sand and don't ask questions Obamacare is a success. It's not like John Green is a left wing propagandist using this channel to manipulate young kids that don't know much.
@vaeledendehar6819
@vaeledendehar6819 7 лет назад
Filip Cordas lol, you have definitely done your research and obviously understood the video...good job!
@RadicalShiba1917
@RadicalShiba1917 7 лет назад
"Left wing propagandist" can you please not associate liberalism with the left? We here on the left would appreciate it!
@jimmyz909
@jimmyz909 Год назад
The last stat I saw was somewhere around 76% of us in the US are living paycheck to paycheck, with the average Insurance deductible being around 14,000 dollars. So what we have is unaffordable insurance premiums either covered by our employer deducted from our wages or subsidised by our government ( Obamacare) so approx. 76% of Americans have health insurance but can't afford health care. Fact.
@SonofSun100
@SonofSun100 8 лет назад
Shame the claims made here in the video in early 2015 have now are no longer correct. Premiums going up on average 20% in 2017 and insurance companies are pulling out not coming in. In my area we will only have one company to choose from for 2017.
@thomashynes4042
@thomashynes4042 8 лет назад
In some exchanges costs increases for insurance for 2017 are even higher 30-60%. But its not just those policies, those who receive their benefits from an employer based insurance have also increased as well
@SonofSun100
@SonofSun100 8 лет назад
Final number for 2017 was 25% with AZ leading the pack with over 100%. Employer based insurance has tended to trend above general inflation for the last 30 years or more due to various underlying economic conditions surrounding our US based healthcare system.
@dontignorewatchme5851
@dontignorewatchme5851 7 лет назад
what state do you live? it matters alot on states
@SonofSun100
@SonofSun100 7 лет назад
Florida. My area saw a 34% increase and we can expect something similar in 2018. In 2014 my first silver policy under ACA was about $300. In 2017 same policy but with higher deductibles (much higher) and out of pocket will be $795.
@dontignorewatchme5851
@dontignorewatchme5851 7 лет назад
Chris Freed you should watch Vox youtube channel "Obama care" also "trump and obamacare" ppl blame it all on parties and president but its much more
@booksforalltime5083
@booksforalltime5083 9 лет назад
As a Canadian, I feel blessed to have "universal" healthcare (it's far from universal). Although our model is definitely a step (or several) above Obamacare, it doesn't come close to that of many European countries. I haven't been to the dentist in 13 years, and although at the last eye exam I went to the said I had symptoms of glaucoma, I haven't gone back for further (expensive) testing. That said, I never worry about going to a clinic or the hospital, and when I had my appendix out last year it didn't cost a cent. I hope America can get to this level very soon.
@Talcum_X
@Talcum_X Год назад
Trudeau is a shit for brains
@wyldstealer
@wyldstealer Год назад
😢😢
@bluebeastsrt
@bluebeastsrt Год назад
As an American I feel sorry for Canadians who are losing their rights under their tyrannical leader.
@obamama4632
@obamama4632 Год назад
What are you talking about? 😂 Canadian healthcare system is chaotic
@sarahalderman3126
@sarahalderman3126 2 года назад
The ACA screwed up health insurance in the US majorly especially for those of us who had decent (reg working class hourly skilled labor) insurance with our employers! You say nothing changes for those people, you know the ones who didn’t switch to an aca plan! That couldn’t be further from the truth! We went from having good insurance with low deductibles ($250/person) low $20 copays for around $240/month. To a $1200-$2600/month premium with a $14,000 deductible! And you can’t even use an HSA with it!!!! What an absolute abomination!
@paulschumacher4308
@paulschumacher4308 9 лет назад
As an insurance agent I can tell you that YES Obamacare makes the system a little better than it was. I can also agree with John when he says that the main problem is healthcare costs, which are allowed to be set at whatever level the companies feels like.
@808thampire
@808thampire 8 лет назад
*votes to repeal Obamacare for the 157th time*
@PoopaChallupa
@PoopaChallupa 4 года назад
Nov. 10th 👍
@empathyisonlyhuman7816
@empathyisonlyhuman7816 11 месяцев назад
Howdy hi hi, While I realize this comment is very late to the game. But whenever I come across something talking about the patient protection and affordable health care act AKA Obamacare. Especially when it's tone is positive I try to make sure to comment. In the speech given by President Obama to congress first introducing this as a bill my own health care situation was really pretty bad. Basically I couldn't work, couldn't seem to convince social security that I couldn't work, had no health care insurance of any kind save the emergency room variety. I was in a phrase basically waiting to die. I have multiple chronic conditions some of which can kill me very easily. But none of which are of a variety that modern medicine can do anything other than to treat the symptoms. So when when he came to the part where under this new proposed law that it would be illegal to deny someone health insurance due to preexisting conditions. I literally cried out loud, and quite loudly at that. And while I wouldn't understand this part until many years later. It was in that moment that something which I considered was something that only children had. President Obama became my hero. He paid a heavy political price for what they did to get it passed. I have no doubt in my mind whatsoever that I am alive today due to what he did on that day and the many months that followed. And so, even belatedly, I thank you John Green for doing this video. And thank you more especially to President Obama. Ciao, I hope your day and endeavors treat you well. And I am so very glad to hear that you brother is now in remission.
@chefmark1751
@chefmark1751 9 лет назад
Other countries seem really happy about how shitty our healthcare system is. Ease up guys, we're dyin' ovah here! A little compassion would be welcome
@toniok.4726
@toniok.4726 3 года назад
What about the FREE MARKET?
@The_king567
@The_king567 Месяц назад
Good you deserve it
@chefmark1751
@chefmark1751 Месяц назад
@@The_king567 sounds like you deserve worse.
@danielblatzanich2714
@danielblatzanich2714 5 лет назад
Anyone complaining about premiums should take a second and think about whether or not that's the government's fault or the fault of insurance companies who have a profit motive. Premiums charged by whom?
@dl3g3nd45
@dl3g3nd45 8 лет назад
obamacare pisses me off!
@YaserRafaelSokary
@YaserRafaelSokary 9 лет назад
I'm just happy that i have the NHS.
@bsim4431
@bsim4431 8 лет назад
This presentation is incredibly biased, no time given to the negative effects realized from the bill. 2 seconds of "doesnt seem to be negatively effecting the job market" does not refute all the evidence that suggests otherwise
@Irishtank1687
@Irishtank1687 8 лет назад
My company was always great at providing awesome health insurance to its ~20,000 employees. But has had major hikes in their premiums over the last 3 years since the ACA started. They have seen close to a 300% increase in 3 years. Although I can agree that having mor insured individuals is good this program is just giving the insurance companies a blank check that the government is cashing. Without my job my insurance, which covers only basic preventative care for free, would cost me $600+ a month. How does anyone afford that? You can't force everyone to go get insurance without regulating the price gouging that has been going on.
@alberoDiSpazio
@alberoDiSpazio 6 лет назад
John Feeney *Blank Check* *Price Gouging* we should be asking ourselves what is causing healthcare to cost so much. Secondly, let's call ACA what it is ...a tax on the American people with credits going to people with rising premiums. There is somebody getting medical treatment because of you. God Bless You. And you doctors out there, yes you, pay your student loans.
@Jammybrown11
@Jammybrown11 9 лет назад
The American health system genuinely scares me. I couldn't imagine living somewhere knowing that it would take me years to pay off my medical bills, even if it was a simple procedure. Education and health-care should always be government controlled (with the exception of wealthy people paying a premium for better quality).
@aliensinnoh1
@aliensinnoh1 9 лет назад
Are you saying abolish private schools? Also, if you mean federally mandated and controlled education, I'd just like to point out that that's how the Soviets brainwashed their population.
@Jammybrown11
@Jammybrown11 9 лет назад
William Stockhecker That's what I meant about that last bit saying with the exception of wealthy people paying a premium for better quality. But for everyone, there should be the option of free healthcare and education (including university), which are paid with taxes. Also the Soviet's didn't manage to brainwash a country via abolishing private schools. In fact, many soviets were very well educated.
@akosbarati2239
@akosbarati2239 9 лет назад
William Stockhecker In the parentheses he perfectly explained private education. As for your assessment on the Soviet system... have you heard that on Infowars? Take it from someone, who lived under Soviet-type socialism, and was educated there, it wasn't unbiased or democratic, but the Red Army and Gulags existed for a reason, so it's not like a) it was successful brainwashing or b) every public school is like the Soviet system, because that would be bullshit.
@MsLouisez
@MsLouisez 9 лет назад
William Stockhecker Ah. you do know that the US already has a government / socialist education system. You have the option of a private school. Universal health can be the same deal. Universal for everyone that cannot pay, and private for those that wish too.
@rjfaber1991
@rjfaber1991 9 лет назад
William Stockhecker "government-controlled" and "government-run" are two different things... You could have privatised but thoroughly regulated health care and education systems, and still make a point for them being government-controlled.
@Saul.2910
@Saul.2910 3 года назад
Strange he doesn’t talk much about the impacts on premiums, deductibles, etc. So in other words, I’m going to judge it based on what it was intended to do, and not on the unintended consequences of it (which is what the criticism of it was mostly about)
@StephenB2
@StephenB2 8 лет назад
does it work? no, in no way shape or form. it never will. did it get better. no, in no way shape or form. I pay twice as much and get half of the covrage I once recived.
@Melonhome_yt
@Melonhome_yt 8 лет назад
Bullshit
@DRourk
@DRourk 8 лет назад
+Christian R Not bullshit. Truth for a great many people.
@zero11010
@zero11010 8 лет назад
+TheArmedSheepdog You're funny! Sometimes I hate facts that are inconvenient, too.
@StephenB2
@StephenB2 8 лет назад
+zero11010 I would hate to be a liberal because they have to deal with that kind of stuff all the time. they always have to use emotion to overcome logic facts and reasoning.
@zero11010
@zero11010 8 лет назад
TheArmedSheepdog The video seemed to reasonably cover where it is working, and where it is not working. Of course it doesn't work 100%, but anything that fails to be 100% isn't automatically 0%. You say it isn't working in any way shape or form and it never will. So, you refuse to accept facts as facts and seem to declare that you can tell the future. That's impressive!
@sarahpowell6617
@sarahpowell6617 9 лет назад
I live in Canada! *frolics through meadows*
@maxsmodels
@maxsmodels 8 лет назад
This segment was so selective with its cherry picked facts that it borders on pro ACA propaganda but to your credit you were never shy about your pro socialized medicine stance and you're fawning adulation for the Canadian system. If you really want to see how good the Canadian system is just go do a cardiac ward in Buffalo New York and see how many Canadians are there. The serious stuff in Canada has a very long waiting list.
@rebeccaclark9131
@rebeccaclark9131 8 лет назад
I honestly don't get a lot of america's seeming distaste for universal healthcare. I mean in the UK we have the NHS which while not perfect is certainly well loved and personally i know no one who wouldn't deeply defend our right to free healthcare, and god knows i'm sure its far more convenient than insurance.
@HutchasaurusRex
@HutchasaurusRex 8 лет назад
Same here in Canada.
@largol33t1
@largol33t1 5 лет назад
Rebecca, you don't live in the US so you can't compare the two. There's NO such thing as "free" health care. It comes out of someone's wallet.
@feitan3743
@feitan3743 5 лет назад
We want universal health care! We don't have it in US. Obamacare is not a universal health care, its just a law that forces people to buy health care. I wish healthcare here was affordable, universal, and government implemented
@sooneradmirer4382
@sooneradmirer4382 7 лет назад
Canadian health care system = VA Health care
@SandfordSmythe
@SandfordSmythe 3 года назад
Isn't there a choice of private providers?
@1098234567
@1098234567 8 лет назад
What about now if I don't have health insurance I have to pay a fine to the irs?
@thomashynes4042
@thomashynes4042 8 лет назад
So if you do NOT have health insurance for 2016 then you pay the penalty, wait the tax, no wait the penalty...wait was it a tax? No the ACA says its a penalty. So how does the penalty work? You may go 60 days with out insurance ( 2months) and there is no penalty. Then it kicks in... the fee is $695 or 2.5% of your income - whichever is higher So Joe Smith ( in my state) who makes $17,000 a year would either choose to pay an avg monthly cost of health insurance of about $100 per month with a $400 subisdy or choose to pay $695 so lets work this out...he either pays $1,200 a year for insurance, with the potential of having to pay back some if not all the subsidy or $695 now... if I were making $285 a week x 4 = $1307 a month Lets see AVG apartment cost in my state for a 1 bedroom is about $600 in a bad neighborhood Electricity $70 Phone $45 Internet/Cable $60 Food per month (single person) $60 Transportation (given he has no car and uses the bus system) Bus Pass $65 for the month Total $900 a month leaving him with $400 left over every month I am sure there are other things like Credit Card Payments Loan payments (maybe) Clothing and other expenses... If I were Joe I would opt for the penalty its cheaper and would save him money.
@Vonnels
@Vonnels 7 лет назад
In some cases this is true, not in all. Also, paying the penalty is fine if you are healthy or know that you won't become seriously ill or have a serious accident (And if you can know that, I want in on that action!). But paying the penalty does not mean you don't have to pay for whatever treatment you receive. No insurance, and you get cancer, you can expect to go bankrupt.
@thomashynes4042
@thomashynes4042 7 лет назад
So here are the rules to the IRS FINES Any individual that goes with out health insurance for more than 60 days is subject to the penalty for 2016 of either $695 per individual/ $325.50 per child or 2.5% of total income which ever is greater to a maximum penalty of $2,085. For tax year 2017, the percentage stays the same at 2.5% however the $695 flat rate will be adjusted for inflation and will increase. If you do not have health insurance for 60 days but then get health insurance then you can avoid the penalty If you say get health insurance for Feb 1 and drop the insurance in November then you are subject to the penalty because the 60 days are not consecutive days for the year. There is a RULE with in the ACA that is now being enforced, the rule was always there, but for the last three years the IRS has let this rule slide by, and have not really enforced it. However there are cases for 2016 where the IRS is penalizing those individuals who work, and their job offers insurance, yet the person opted to take the Insurance via the exchange with tax subsidies. Here is the Rule Joe works for XYZ company that offers health insurance for him and his family. The lowest cost plan offered by the company which would be similar to a Bronze plan would cost Joe lets say $50 per pay period or $200 per month. The Lowest plan has say a deductible of $7000 and an Total Out of Pocket of $5000 Joe comes to the exchange looking for a better deal, find a policy that would be with TAX SUBSIDES, the APTC's and Cost Sharing Reduction CSR...the plan has a Deductible of $800 and a Total out of pocket expense of $1000 And the policy with subsides would cost him say $50 per month Joe sees that the Exchange plan is a MUCH BETTER DEAL - FALSE Lets say Joes income is $800 per week ... JOE is NOT, I REPEAT not eligible for TAX CREDITS because his employers insurance is deemed affordable. The rule is 0.0966 x Income = Affordability - the RULE does not take into consideration that it would cost him just $50 and the wife and two kids $100 per individual for a total cost of $350 per pay period for health insurance. The rule states that if it is affordable for HIM and HIM alone that is the plan that he should enroll in. It is true however that Joe could take the exchange policy, however he would NOT receive TAX SUBSIDIES for that policy, this would in turn make the plan on the exchange jump from $50 per month to the full cost of the plan of $800-$1500 per month. THE ACA does NOT CARE what the deductibles are, co-pays are or Total Out Of Pocket Expenses are ...its the cost of the insurance and the fact that policy meets the Minimum Value Standard ... Meaning a 60/40 plan. IF an individual LIES and says NO my employer does not offer insurance, the IRS will FIND OUT ... The IRS then sends a letter to Joe's employer informing him that his employee is receiving TAX CREDITS The IRS then informs the employer that a fine of $_____________ will be assesed if not corrected A Letter is sent to JOE to correct the situation, informing him that his subsidy will be taken away, and any and all subsidies will have to be paid back to the IRS
@thomashynes4042
@thomashynes4042 7 лет назад
Insurance is a RISK, how much RISK are you willing to take on 100%, 50%, 25% 10%. Each of those percentages comes with a cost. So lets say Joe is really unsure about getting insurance, and lets say that insurance he is looking at is a Bronze plan with a $7100 out of pocket and a $6500 Deductible. remember this though...even with those figures the Annual Exam, vaccines are covered at 100% regardless of meeting the deductible or not. So Joe gets a Bronze plan and pays $40 a month (and yes this price is out there depending on the individuals subsidy amount) lets say Tom gets no insurance and OPTS for the penalty. Lets say JOE and TOM have the same accident, a knife cut to the palm of the hand that requires stitches, and they both go to the Emergency Room because its a really bad wound. Lets say the ER, Doctor, Medicine, Services come out to be $2500 each remember JOE has Insurance TOM does not.... JOE does not pay the $2500 because the insurance company has negotiated rates with the providers, so the insurance company says wait a moment, you can only charge JOE $1000 TOM who has no insurance has to pay the $2500 because he does not have the negotiated rate , Now in all likely hood TOM would still get a discount of 10% if he pays in cash and upfront or put on to a payment plan. But he is left with a much bigger charge then JOE So even though the plan may have HUGE deductibles, it is still to JOE's Advantage that he had the insurance because he paid less than half of what TOM did putting money in his pocket. I am not agreeing or disagreeing if the ACA is FAIR or RIGHT...my argument is it still wold be cheaper in some cases to get insurance then to have to pay the penalty. Remember, a person making $30,000 is going to pay $750 not the 695 penalty, the question is do you in this case as JOE spend $480 a year for insurance to get cheaper costs or not...its all RISK...how much are you willing to RISK.
@amandaa5844
@amandaa5844 9 лет назад
Love how you show your sources!! Makes it so much valid!! :) (in an academic sense... gee university is really getting to me) I would love to hear the political side of Obamacare, more specifically what are the reasons behind not supporting the policy. My general understanding is that a large section of the American population are conservative and prefer a small government, Obamacare goes against that in that it would be more involved in their affairs, and politicians from conservative background or in a conservative region would have to take the small government stance.
@PaulTheSkeptic
@PaulTheSkeptic 9 лет назад
So, tell me again why we're not all rushing to vote for socialized health care?
@bradw2k
@bradw2k 8 лет назад
The premise of this "analysis" is that there aren't enough regulations in place yet to make the system really good. How can people think these brothers are neutral, when they are so far left?
@magicoA
@magicoA 8 лет назад
John is far more right than people often acknowledge(something he's mentioned a few times before) for example he's actually suggesting a free market system as a solution. He believes in capitalism A LOT more than Hank does
@bradw2k
@bradw2k 8 лет назад
+magicoA Capitalism is, among others things, when the government is not controlling or regulating the economy. From the few videos I've seen of this man, capitalism is not even on his radar.
@bradw2k
@bradw2k 8 лет назад
+Julio Altamiranda I agree with your last paragraph, that mixed-economy cronyism is indeed what we have rather than capitalism (in the US). As for the definition of capitalism, I agree with Ayn Rand's: a social system in which individual rights are upheld, including private property rights.This is wider than economics, because individual rights are the (only) context that make free markets possible. Correct, there has never been pure, unregulated capitalism, the closest was late 19th century US -- a time of intense economic development. I recommend Rand's essays, "What is Capitalism?", "Man's Rights", and "The Nature of Government."
@bobrulz
@bobrulz 8 лет назад
Yep, the late 19th century US, a time of intense economic development, and when thousands of people died on a yearly basis working in factories 80 hours a week with no compensation to the families and no consequences for the company, where monopolies ruled multiple industries, therefore essentially destroying small business in said industries, where companies would straight-up murder strikers with their own private armies with support from the government, and where child labor and segregation were both still widely practiced. What a great time we should aspire to! Let's not forget that Ayn Rand thought that white people deserved to take over the U.S. because they were "stronger" than blacks and Native Americans. She is the standard-bearer for every selfish, greedy prick that thinks any and all actions are justified in the name of money and land.
@kewltony
@kewltony 8 лет назад
Rockefeller's gasoline monopoly lowered prices and raised quality every year. It's only government enforced monopolies that have the luxury of selling a substandard product at ridiculous prices.
@silverwindspirit
@silverwindspirit 8 лет назад
If the amount of money that the U.S. spends on the military was actually spent on universal health care instead, wouldn't we have a better universal health care system then any of the European countries? Also, we already have a powerful military, how much more do we need to spend?
@jacobcarter5923
@jacobcarter5923 8 лет назад
No, then it would be much worse, the only way to a better healthcare system is to keep the government out of it completely. Give taxes back to the people and let the free market fix it.
@mrinalganash4725
@mrinalganash4725 8 лет назад
+Jacob Carter you gotta be joking health care in the hands of free market, sure
@myusernameissoobnoxiouslyl1466
Jacob Carter Lift state restrictions on healthcare competition. We've never done that.
@jacobcarter5923
@jacobcarter5923 8 лет назад
+Mrinal Ganash your ignorance of how the free market is always better in every single way amuses me.
@jacobcarter5923
@jacobcarter5923 8 лет назад
+My username is so obnoxiously long and there is absolutely nothing you can do about the matter nice username The free market is the right answer for everything, not only does it work better, but it's a civil rights issue. It's not healthcare, it's hospital insurance.
@rubyrainsong
@rubyrainsong 8 лет назад
No. It is not working. Unless you own or are a top executive of, Humana, Aetna, BCBS, United Healthcare, Cigna, etc. Or if you're on welfare. Then yeah, it's working great!
@mju34
@mju34 8 лет назад
+Renee Lanning Ironically, it IS working, in the sense that it is doing exactly what it was designed to do, which is to cause the remnants of the free market system to fail in order to facilitate the complete federal takeover of the medical service industry. Ultimately it is about control, and in this regard the "Affordable Care Act" makes Stalin look like a Boy Scout
@dakattack8900
@dakattack8900 7 лет назад
I love John Green, but man, please do not say "a truly free market system where if you show up and you don't have insurance, you don't get treatment." There are thousands if not tens of thousands of institutions in the United States that offer radically cheaper if not free health services. Ron Paul himself was performing surgeries for $3/hour. Charitable organizations are fully a part of the free market system. In summary, a truly free market system is not going to increase the amount of people who die in the streets because they don't have insurance
@SamBrev
@SamBrev 8 лет назад
just from that opening statistic you can tell how stupid the american system is you spend more tax money per person on private healthcare than in countries with universal healthcare and yet everyone says universal healthcare would cost too much :/
@vice32
@vice32 9 лет назад
I don't have health care because Covered California tells me that a mixed family like mine needs to be covered through Welfare. Welfare tells me Covered California needs to offer me coverage meanwhile both companies that my wife and I work for wants to charge us 1,200 dollars a month to cover our family and continues to say that if one of our Family members gets hospitalized, I have to pay an additional 10,00 annual deductible and We're still responsible for 20% of the bill. What the hell is happening to America? I'm so disappointed
@drshlotzkin
@drshlotzkin 9 лет назад
Ray Rodriguez And the Vlog shill is still going to shill for the government.
@alexandrucalinbaciu7796
@alexandrucalinbaciu7796 8 лет назад
1. American Doctors are paid way too much. 2. American hospitals should use a tender system to buy supplies. The prices they buy supplies with are outrageous.
@thomashynes4042
@thomashynes4042 8 лет назад
the AVG cost to become a doctor in the USA is bare minimum $170,000... in a freemarket system why should the government limit the amount an individual makes? That is what the freemarket system does... If you make a Widget and charge $50 for it, and I make the same Widget for $15 whose company would survive in a free market?
@alexandrucalinbaciu7796
@alexandrucalinbaciu7796 8 лет назад
Thomas Hynes 1.never said someone should limit an individuals income. but, in my opinion, giving them a porsche/month is too much. 2.why don't we shake hands and both sell the Widget for 1000 dollars? the US hospitals will buy it. I will take 50% of the hospital and you take the other half.
@unifieddynasty
@unifieddynasty 8 лет назад
Having a completely free-market healthcare solution invariably means that certain people will be denied treatment based exclusively on their inability to afford it. That is not an alternative solution that modern First World society should even suggest. Of course there will always be that one guy who argues that charity will solve this problem -- right, because the rich greedy plutocrats with affluenza today will suddenly become sufficiently charitable after their moneyed influence becomes even greater. The fact is that various universal healthcare models have worked for all the countries that have adopted them, whereas privatized healthcare evidently has not. Even if the goal of capitalism is to have people ranked by their merit, we must first and fundamentally establish an equitable playing field.
@unifieddynasty
@unifieddynasty 8 лет назад
***** Proof? Are you making the claim that people are being denied life-saving/non-cosmetic treatments under Public Healthcare?
@unifieddynasty
@unifieddynasty 8 лет назад
***** Do you understand the concept of 'triage'?
@vitocorleone3764
@vitocorleone3764 8 лет назад
+unifieddynasty I'm young and new to this whats a triage?
@unifieddynasty
@unifieddynasty 8 лет назад
Vito Corleone "The process of deciding which patients should be treated first based on how sick or seriously injured they are." - Merriam-Webster
@vitocorleone3764
@vitocorleone3764 8 лет назад
***** ok, I was wondering how do insurance companies go about handling that because it seems like the more sick you were the less insurance you get therefore a non equal playing ground. right?
@NicholasWarnertheFirst
@NicholasWarnertheFirst 8 лет назад
Most informative, as a Londoner I just had a bio absorbable scaffold fitted in my LAD (largest artery in heart muscle) Cost Zero - I even got bangers and mash, cheesecake, apple juice, tea and coffee, the latest US tech. from Abbott Industries (God bless America) they used to be stents now they use a polymer that dissolves within 2 yrs! Free Oh and I waited 2 weeks from diagnosis.
@joshuahuman8442
@joshuahuman8442 4 года назад
Wait.... what if America hadn't spent the $ to develop the American medicine and medical advances that other nations then get without the cost........🤔
@melaniebosley
@melaniebosley 9 лет назад
Is it just me, or are puff levels now getting higher, as well as wider?
@allenmiller1627
@allenmiller1627 8 лет назад
My job offers healthcare insurance but only cover preventative diseases and sickness. No ER coverage, no hospital coverage. basic just buying it not to get fined. oh by the way I'm a nurse I know how to prevent disease and illnesses
@allenmiller1627
@allenmiller1627 8 лет назад
*basically
@gregcarlson8438
@gregcarlson8438 9 лет назад
Did anyone else notice the way he is talking? It is a lot different than his other videos. It sounds like he is just spitting out mindless talking points, whether you agree with him or not.
@Chocopacotaco1413
@Chocopacotaco1413 9 лет назад
+Greg Carlson well he does choose not to mention that before Obamacare, illegal immigrants were counted in the reporting of uninsured, inflating the numbers. After Obamacare, these individuals didn’t get insurance, but suddenly didn’t get counted any more in the most recent census. We have not changed like at all if you still count illegals
@johnchessant3012
@johnchessant3012 7 лет назад
7:10 - "Nobody knew healthcare could be so complicated" -- our current president; February 27, 2017
@_Oscartoons
@_Oscartoons 9 лет назад
John, thank you for making this video!
@smhdpt12
@smhdpt12 9 лет назад
wait wait wait, you wrote that book that was made into the movie of the poster behind you....and you don't make enough money for your own health insurance?????
@Chiyenworkout
@Chiyenworkout 8 лет назад
+scottdpt12 I doubt it.... I think he just want to sell his ideology
@Accualt
@Accualt 8 лет назад
Obamacare doesn't equal free healthcare, everyone still has to pick and pay for their own plan. Low income individuals get help paying. This guy most certainly makes too much for the aid and therefor pays for the insurance himself.
@MrWr0ng
@MrWr0ng 8 лет назад
What Accualt said. Obamacare gives what little aid it was allowed to give to financially vulnerable people while fiddling with the rest in terms of pre-existing conditions, required coverage, and price changes. Also, one thing that ACA was supposed to rely on was expanded medicare/caid. That didn't happen in all the states though, so you see a lot of people who can't afford Obamacare, but "make too much money." (To be fair, cost of living isn't really accounted for and that's a huge factor in affordability as well.) This is all a simplified explanation, of course.
@czarpeppers6250
@czarpeppers6250 8 лет назад
+scottdpt12 After all the information you received, that's the best insight you have? Kind of sad.
@Melonhome_yt
@Melonhome_yt 8 лет назад
He does, he just cares about the country and the people in it and not just himself.
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