Is Ohtani the GOAT? | The Skip Bayless Show

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After becoming the first member of the 50-50 club in MLB history, Skip posted a video on his Twitter (x.com/RealSkip...) claiming that Shohei Ohtani was the GOAT. Skip discusses what Ohtani and the Dodgers need to prove to double down on his claim of GOAT status.
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@romanNood1es 5 часов назад

He makes home runs, steals bases, and strike outs. He is insane. 🤯 Can’t blame Ohtani for being stranded on the Angels.

@JTown4 5 часов назад

Best talent ever. Not even debatable. Imagine Babe Ruth trying to play division 1 baseball today....good luck

@timotmon 3 часа назад

You should only Judge a player by the standards of the era. Yes of course.. Ruth would be lucky to be just a mid player in todays league.

@brandonneumann5294 3 часа назад

Yeah because you’re putting him in todays league without giving him the modern training and technology that modern players benefit from. Of course he wouldn’t look good. If Shohei ohtani was born in the 1890s he would look very different than today

@JTown4 2 часа назад

@@timotmon You're right. Ruth is still likely the best to ever do it. I just get annoyed by Skip sometimes and he makes me act petty lol.

@JTown4 2 часа назад

@@brandonneumann5294 I know. I get I'm not being fair and Ruth is still the GOAT but he did only play against white Americans and I still believe Ohtani is the best talent ever.

@mrcalipride Час назад

@@brandonneumann5294 even with modern day training, his chance of making to the major league is very slim. He play in a era with very small talent pool. Thats like a high school player dominating their region, it doesn't mean much. Ohtani is the real goat.

@Leadoff50 3 часа назад

Bonds is best hitter. Nolan or Pedro or Randy probably best pitcher… But Shohei is the best total baseball player ever!

@roysong1738 Час назад

Bonds was juiced up though

@The_Zilli 32 минуты назад

@@roysong1738 dont matter. like Skip said, roids dont help your hand eye coordination.

@chrisdrews3125 16 минут назад

@@The_Zilliso without juice Bonds is Luis Arraez

@airtioteclint 5 часов назад

WS titles is a team measure not a single players (goat) accomplishment. An elite pitcher takes a season off to nurse an injury and casually destroys elite hitters records... Even with Judge and Bonds pitchers have the option to walk them. They CAN'T do that with Shohei because he will steal and get into scoring position for Mookie and Freddie. Its literally lose/lose for opponents. Then you have Shohei striking out 2022 Houston Astros on the mound and hitting bombs against them at the plate. He did it again in 2023 against the Texas Rangers. Essentially beating them single handedly. Both WS champions of those seasons. Who tf else is the history of the sport comes close?

@BentleyVB 4 часа назад

Today league is different - a lot more talent and literally the best of the best come to the mlb to play .

@pycellesbeard9728 4 часа назад

Sorry but Every Sports GOAT needs a Chip, even baseball players, That's Why When most GOAT lists are made Ruth, Mays, Aaron and Mantle are easily always ahead of guys like Williams and Bonds, I remember Bonds before Roids usually underperformed in the playoffs and that didn't go unnoticed for a reason.

@ericxyliu 2 часа назад

Ohtani is on the Dodgers now, he has to win at least 1 or more titles in order to solidify himself as the GOAT

@pycellesbeard9728 2 часа назад

@@ericxyliu So He'll automatically be the GOAT despite being down 500 HR, 1500 RBI, and 4 Rings to Ruth?? Yeah, No!.

@marksstudio 53 минуты назад

Doc was smart putting him in leadoff position so pitchers can't walk him and have to pitch to him. That was a great move.

@Jay-w8j6q 6 часов назад

Skip is the king

@timotmon 3 часа назад

King of bad takes.

@loganbremerman1248 5 часов назад

Hes an amazing pitcher but better hitter. Thats crazy. He wont be pitching much more if he keeps hitting like this.

@pycellesbeard9728 3 часа назад

And He shouldn't, He's had 2 UCL tears, His arm is already warning him, there's a reason they switched Ruth to OF full time at only 24 years old.

@tmproductions18 3 часа назад

I think if he consistently bats like this, they’ll limit his pitching or pull him after the 6th. Almost too good of a pitcher to not pitch. Remember his Japanese clutch pitching vs USA. I’d say they’ll see how his arm feels after pitching if gets too inflamed then he’d be done pitching

@carloscervantes3023 4 часа назад

Once you test positive for the juice you aren't Goat caliber sorry not sorry 🤷🏽‍♂️

@The_Zilli 32 минуты назад

you do know he never tested positive right?

@siarung1972 4 часа назад

Deion sander my favorite player. 😂😊😊😊😊😊😊😊😊😊😊😊😊😊😊

@zippynguyen1917 4 часа назад

Skip, regarding Bonds, back in the day when it was exposed by 60 minutes or whatever show, they mentioned that "the cream and the clear" greatly enhanced eye-hand coordination. It wasn't just the power, it was the recovery after pumping weights, the rashes they got in the lower back, and... the greatly improved eye-hand coordination

@zippynguyen1917 4 часа назад

so I disagree with the point you made that the steroids just improved strength. When you are recovering from workouts like the X-men's Wolverine, and feel like a spring chicken at age 40... I would say that's a bit more than just a strength effect

@zippynguyen1917 4 часа назад

agree the playoffs point which is completely valid. Plus LEADERSHIP (thinking Jeter, Brady, Jordan) which Ohtani is handicapped bc of the language/cultural barrier

@tomjohnson8737 6 часов назад

60/60 soon

@cryptidian3530 5 часов назад

Possible, but improbable.

@omgbygollywow 4 часа назад

Barry Bonds cheated.

@fabianavalos1386 4 часа назад

MLB recognises all of Barry’s numbers

@MrReav13 4 часа назад

Could you imagine if Ohtani was on PEDs? He’d be Barry Bonds AND Roger Clemens put together!

@omgbygollywow 3 часа назад

@@fabianavalos1386 He's not in the Hall of Fame and neither is Mark McGwire or Roger Clemens.

@fabianavalos1386 3 часа назад

@@MrReav13 Ohtani is Japans Ivan Drago

@timotmon 3 часа назад

@@fabianavalos1386 MLB has never put an asterisks next to anything as far as I know. So that's not saying much. They let the Astros hang that 2017 banner which is absurd.

@ché_1987 3 часа назад

Dodgers have too many injured starting pitchers. Ohtani and the Dodgers offense will have to carry the team for most of the postseason to win their first 162-game WS since 1988. Go Blue!

@bdnguyen 5 часов назад

It's a team sport and very hard to see playoffs when your top teammates were Rendon and Trout, and owner was Moreno. Two biggest mistakes of his career were picking Ippei as an employee and Angels as employer - for YEARS.

@pycellesbeard9728 4 часа назад

Please! only 5 years ago a bunch of people were already ridiculously calling Trout the GOAT. They had 2 guys that people prematurely put in the GOAT debate, there's no excuse for not making the playoffs, and there won't be any excuse if the Dodgers don't win it all after spending all that cash, Especially with the season Shohei's had.

@minhquando100 3 часа назад

As much as we would love to hate the Angels for wasting a big chunk of Ohtani’s career, keep in mind that if it wasn’t for the Angels, Ohtani wouldn’t be the player he is today. The reason Ohtani signed with the Angels is because they were the only team that was willing to give him an opportunity to be both a pitcher and a DH. Ohtani had to sign with the Angels in order to get the chance to prove to the league that he’s elite at both positions. Say what you want, but the Angels did a lot to help him grow as both a pitcher and a hitter.

@LL-tc1re 4 часа назад

"...was a fat guy" lol. Cracked me up. Bonds was a HoFer before the juice, but unfortunately we will never know how he would have performed without the juice. You are right it doesn't change his bat to ball skills, but it did help him get so big and strong where fly outs turned into HRs, and also recover from fatigue or injury faster and he was able to perform at MVP levels into his older years where normally there is a performance decline and therefore he may not have reached the total HRs record.

@pycellesbeard9728 3 часа назад

We kind of know, He probably would've ended up with similar numbers as Griffey Which is TOP 5-6 numbers. We can see the Roids obviously gave Bonds about 120 extra HR just by looking at his timeline,

@lastchance7463 45 минут назад

Sorry….The greatest MLB of all time is Willie Mays.

@otismygotis3670 Час назад

Sorry, Barry US Steroids is not the GOAT.

@kellyallen8528 44 минуты назад

Dude is paid $70m/yr and is probably still underpaid with which how much they're probably off him from merchandise and stuff in Japan.

@aaronperez3243 5 часов назад

Poor skip, 1 Hour in and 500 views 😢. Love you skip

@scholarishere 4 часа назад

I think Skip is the GOAT.

@starcastleLomitas 4 часа назад

I saw a pic on FB the other day of Mickey Mantel wearing just a bath towel in the locker room and had a very muscular athlethic figure but I never knew that in those baggy baseball uniforms of the old days. So maybe Babe Ruth wasn't as fat as those uniforms made him look?

@omgbygollywow 4 часа назад

Imagine you have two employees. One has migraine headaches everyday and the other does not. Who do you think would perform better at work? Of course the employee who does not have migraine headaches or any other hindrances to performance. That is what steroids can do for a player. It can make you recover better from injuries and it can make you gain muscle and therefore stronger. Think of how much of an advantage that is for an athlete. Steroids definitely enhances your performance.

@BentleyVB 4 часа назад

Good take -

@kumakuacousins4x 5 часов назад

Your still around?

@fabianavalos1386 4 часа назад

Wait until after a player retires before calling him the greatest.

@whatsupfoo4592 4 часа назад

I’m a big Ohtani fan but he needs to win some championships and continue to do what he does before we label him as a 🐐

@langleyh8243 4 часа назад

Up and coming players are gonna have to start hitting and pitching to even be thought of near the same level. It's almost not fair lmao

@pycellesbeard9728 3 часа назад

Not gonna happen as we can clearly see Shohei shouldn't probably pitch again unless it's here and there. Every 5th day while DH'ing will just continue to kill his arm. This is exactly Why guys Like John Olerud Who did it in college to an insane degree didn't even try at the MLB level, Ohtani has done it better than anyone but it's just not smart going forward unless they just figure they can give him TJ every other year and let him DH full time in those recovery years which doesn't sound like a great idea but maybe his surgeons found a way.

@emyndridrinemy3346 4 часа назад

come to think about it how the heck didn't the Angels ever do anything with Mike Trout and Shohei Ohtani?

@chriskelly6559 4 часа назад

It's not their fault the rest of the team sucked. And Trout, an amazing talent, is always hurt. Shozilla!

@RagedContinuum 3 часа назад

Trout should've gone to the Yankees - Angels would never be the place

@RagedContinuum 3 часа назад

Trout should've gone to the Yankees - Angels would never be the place

@sparthir 20 минут назад

Steroid users are automatically out of a legitimate GOAT discussion.

@frankiefernandez9225 35 минут назад

Watching from Guam 🇬🇺🇬🇺🇬🇺

@user-epiphany1031 2 часа назад

You forgot about WBC. He had Japan beat the USA.

@83to21 3 часа назад

See, it wasn’t that hard to talk something different to lebron and cowboys

@g-0gaming929 2 часа назад

Jordan won championships thats all.

@starcastleLomitas 4 часа назад

And Babe Ruth stole home multiple times

@BakoSooner 21 минуту назад

He is the real life “The Natural”.

@Brett733 2 часа назад

He's a top 2 hitter and a top 5 pitcher

@joeface03 Час назад

As soon as I heard "barry", I was done.

@alejandrocanedo7265 Час назад

The worst part is the Dodgers pitching staff going into playoffs. And mess up Ohtanis chances of winning a World Series

@caseyjones815 2 часа назад

NOT EVEN A TOPIC TO DISCUSS. Y’ALL STUCK BEING SOUR ABOUT SHOHEI. LET HIM DO HIS THING AND ENJOY.

@frankiefernandez9225 36 минут назад

On Point 👌🏽👌🏽👌🏽

@matthewvaroz4812 13 минут назад

amen 🙏 skip!!

@yanchand3603 8 минут назад

YES, HE IS (PERIOD)

@JuanGonzalez-wi8sj 2 часа назад

I take Aaron judge

@BentleyVB 4 часа назад

anyone can show me a better player ? I don’t think so . Shohei Ohtanj is the GOAT .

@fabianavalos1386 4 часа назад

Calling a player GOAT before he retires is pure rubbish

@pycellesbeard9728 3 часа назад

Babe Ruth, easily as it stands right now.

@BentleyVB 3 часа назад

@@pycellesbeard9728 yea but did you see him play ?

@pycellesbeard9728 3 часа назад

@@BentleyVB No and I never seen Gretzky play, never seen Ali box, but I know they're GOATs of their respective sports as well, I can see their numbers just as I can see Ruth as of right now has far superior numbers and 5 rings to go with them.

@BentleyVB 3 часа назад

@@pycellesbeard9728 your absolutely right as of chips and stats but as of today era . We are blessed to see Ohtani play beyond Ruth level of skills .

@gsjackson34 Час назад

The other oft-mentioned candidate for greatest hitter, Ted Ballgame (who had a higher lifetime OBP than Bonds), also never won a ring.

@21b4ll3r21 26 минут назад

Shohei may or may not be the GOAT but he's the undisputed BOAT.. best of all time GOAT should include accolades and longevity which is a knock on him But BOAT is about talent and ability, and he's without a doubt the best and most talented to ever play the sport

@dabz3432 51 минуту назад

Who else in history has earned elite status as a pitcher, a hitter and a runner? I cannot think of another than Ohtani, please educate me.

@kellyallen8528 38 минут назад

Skips career before TV gets overlooked. Dude covered Jordan in Chicago, Bonds in Frisco, and the Cowboys dynasty in Dallas and won sports writer of the year back in newspaper days. It's actually incredible to be able to say you covered all those legends.

@timotmon 3 часа назад

Post season stats are almost meaningless. Too small of a sample size.. Is Ted Williams any less of a player because he batted .200 in the post?

@RhapsodyinGlue Час назад

Poor Skip, he needs to pull a dark hood over his head and get it over with. Have I ever told you the story of “Darth Bayless”?……….

@sybyrtube 2 часа назад

Skip Skip Skip Skip here goes the end of the talk cause after all the 💩 to this very day #1 All time total bases Hank Aaron #1 all time runs batted in to this very day is still "him" Henry Hank Aaron. 👊3,771 base hits

@The_Best_Boxing_News 43 минуты назад

Skip can you call an Asian the greatest and not be seen as a racist?

@Kinginzz 3 часа назад

The Babe wasn’t fat until the last quarter of his career.. his greatness occurred when he was in good shape and was just a burley guy with small ankles and legs that made him look fat

@tmproductions18 3 часа назад

And risked and bought his rookie card already graded the first year he started smacking homers. People also pitch around Ohtani a lot, the steroids definitely helped Bonds put power on his swing. Skip never clearly played baseball. There’s a reason 145lb guys aren’t leading for homeruns ever. When I gained weight from lifting, the ball would go further when I got a good swing on the ball. Just admit you hate having a Japanese player the face of baseball. People like Colin admitted it at least

@shashank_nayak 5 часов назад

Wow Skip has fallen off bigly.

@garylo8120 3 часа назад

When the Dodgers win the WS (I'm sure Ohtani will be a huge part of it), then you can rightfully call him the GOAT. For now, an alien-like athlete with otherworldly talent and abilities. We need more performances from him like the 40/40 grand slam, and last night where he pretty much carried the team to the W. Do that in the post-season, get Dodgers the chip, then GOAT without question. Those that say post-season stats don't matter, you're out of your mind. Would Jordan be Jordan without his 6 rings? Just think nice and hard about that.

@mikekinsella2822 Час назад

Dodgers are not even going to the WS let alone win it. Philadelphia has a better team then them. they will win they NL

@snowman9642 50 минут назад

Don’t be shocked for another October fail.

@millabasset1710 5 часов назад

He would have been worshipped as a God in Boston, shame he's in a dump like LA.

@ivancortina4398 3 часа назад

LOL Otani doesn't want to be worshiped as a god he can care less about that, he wants to be part of an organization that will take him to the playoffs and that's in LA, he loves it here in LA and rather be nowhere else, Beantown wasn't even on his top 10 list 😅

@fahimhuq2768 3 часа назад

Not likely since he’s Asian .

@marsgordeuk 6 часов назад

Ohtani is amazing, but can we please pump the brakes? Outside of MVPS, what has Ohtani won? Postseason, Playoffs, WORLD SERIES? Not yet. And I understand it’s not his fault the Angels have been terrible, but to be in the GOAT conversation, u have to win in the postseason ala Tom Brady, Michael Jordan, Lebron James, etc. Even Miguel Cabrera has won a WS with Miami Marlins & is in the GOAT conversation because of his achievements with the Detroit Tigers. So is Ohtani a future HOF, absolutely. But don’t tell me he’s the Tom Brady & Babe Ruth of baseball.

@loganbremerman1248 5 часов назад

This isnt gonna age well

@airtioteclint 5 часов назад

@davidh.5139 5 часов назад

You watch too much basketball or football. Rings are a horrible way to measure the greats in baseball. Barry Bonds, Ken Griffey Jr., Ted Williams, etc. all never won a ring. All you did was out yourself for not know baseball. The GOATS of baseball aren't measured with rings but rather individual stats. Hope this helps