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Is Our Food Becoming Less Nutritious? 

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The nutrient content of food is declining. Is it because of soil depletion, selective breeding, or... something else?
Watch my new documentary, VITAMANIA: ve42.co/vita
I came across this story as I was making the film Vitamania. When you ask sellers of vitamins why you should take vitamin supplements even if you eat a healthy diet, they will say because our food doesn't contain all the nutrients it once did. This is supposedly due to soil depletion, cold storage, food ripening off the vine, and global transport of out-of-season foods. And to an extent this is true. Foods contain the greatest amount of nutrients if they are eaten soon after they are harvested. An unexpected source of nutrient decline is the increasing amount of carbon dioxide in the atmosphere. It causes plants to grow faster and bulk up on carbs but at the expense of other nutrients, so in percentage terms the amount of nutrients are actually declining. For now this decline is modest so supplementing with vitamin pills is probably unnecessary for most people with a healthy diet but it may be a concern in future.
Thanks to Kate Pappas & Chris Kamen for writing, producing and filming this video with me
Edited by Lucy McCallum
Sound mix by Wayne Hyett
Fact Checking by Calvin Lee and Claire Smith
Thanks to the Collingwood Children’s Farm and Glenn Fitzgerald from the University of Melbourne & Agriculture Victoria
Further Reading:
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www.ncbi.nlm.n...
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@bw2020
@bw2020 3 года назад
It’s unfortunate how this video glossed over the subject of soil depletion. Soil nutrition is such a deep and important area of farming, and to just say that “farmers are careful to maintain soil nutrition with fertilizers” really does not do reality justice. Soil compaction and chemical fertilizers and pesticides/herbicides are a huge factor in when it comes to how the soil regenerates and also how it makes nutrients available to plants. Soil degradation is way more important than people realize.
@whitykitty2651
@whitykitty2651 2 года назад
I agree it is a bit biased.
@mattbanks3517
@mattbanks3517 2 года назад
shikimate pathway
@stephenleaf3848
@stephenleaf3848 2 года назад
Very bias. As I’ve said to my wife before, saying you add fertilizer is like taking a refrigerator and taking out what you like and only adding back in what you can afford. Plants take out WAY more than the standard NPK fertilizers, which isn’t even considering soil only retains a certain amount of that chemical fertilizers added and the rest pollutes our waterways. To really combat the situation we need more regenerative farming no more fertilizers and focus more on composts, allowing mushrooms to distribute nutrients (No-till), etc.
@mattbanks3517
@mattbanks3517 2 года назад
@@stephenleaf3848 burn human poop, dissolve the ash in nitric acid
@bw2020
@bw2020 2 года назад
@@stephenleaf3848 Heck yeah man. No till regen ag is the way.
@allanpaulett5394
@allanpaulett5394 3 года назад
As a farmer I would like to point out that in general, farmers only fertilise with N, P and K to get extra growth, not with things that replenish the soil with micronutrients. Also, most crops have been selectively bred to taste better, ie more sugar, not to be more nutritious, or to give more weight of crop. A lot of the beneficial compounds in plants are produced by the plant in reaction to stresses that the plants used to encounter, either insects, weeds or pathogens. Crops grown in very controlled, monocultural environments are never going to encounter those stresses and therefore will not produce the protective compounds. Resveratrol is an example of a very beneficial compound for humans only produced by plants that are stressed.
@KnuttyEntertainment
@KnuttyEntertainment 3 года назад
Is there a way to simulate stress to get the ideal nutritional value from a harvest?
@technoman9000
@technoman9000 3 года назад
@@KnuttyEntertainment If you read bad poetry to them for 12 hours a day, it might help.
@filipvakaj376
@filipvakaj376 3 года назад
Would not really agree with your first statement (the other two are probably correct), because did you ever hear of Liebig's law of minimum? Which says that the growth of a plant is limited by the elemen that's the least amount in the soil or the plant can't take it up because of antagonism between elements, and therefore if you want big yeilds you need al of the elements that the plant needs. Its true that farmers mostly fertilize with NPK but it also contains micronutrients for the plants and also the soil does because the plants need it so little.
@filipvakaj376
@filipvakaj376 3 года назад
@@KnuttyEntertainment well it would be an option but no one will pay farmers more for better quality crop's because he has smaler yeilds because of the strees for the plants
@MilnaAlen
@MilnaAlen 3 года назад
@@filipvakaj376 Not professional farmers, no. But if you are able to grow vegetables yourself, there's things you can do. Like growing different plants next to each other. Besides only food grown in greenhouses may be protected from stresses, though not perfectly. Normal fields are going to experience plenty of stress from temperature and often drought. Apart from strawberries in Finland, it's not financially feasible to water plants on fields.
@donready119
@donready119 2 года назад
I have cash cropped in Canada for 40+ years. I am one of the few who adds micros based on tissue tests. Organic matter levels in most soils have fallen with time. Excess nitrogen speeds up the process. The OM is a a keystone for the soil microbiome which is essential for soil health. Plants find microbes so essential that they donate 30-70% of their sugar production by excreting it through the roots. If we select for grain yield, we may be stealing from the microbes. Bigger is not better. Is a 500 lb. obese human a "high yielder'? Nitrogen produces larger plants but the cells are puffed up with water and generally have thinner cell walls. Nutrient density decreases. It is easy to supplement fertilizer with any essential metals that are shown to be low.
@boldvankaalen3896
@boldvankaalen3896 3 года назад
In the case of apples breeding reduced the phenol content. Phenols are very healthy but also cause the apples to brown quickly after cutting, so they were bred out.
@tydshiin5783
@tydshiin5783 2 года назад
Oh so it isn't just my imagination of apples Browning slowly than it did in the past?
@alizaka1467
@alizaka1467 2 года назад
@@tydshiin5783 Bro I have the exact same experience. Apples nowadays DO brown noticeably slowly. I thought it was only me
@duichersie1
@duichersie1 6 лет назад
First sentence: topic introduction Second sentence: „a study in 2004 ...“ This is how I like my RU-vid.
@OnlyBibekdas
@OnlyBibekdas 6 лет назад
@@CoolestUserEver Bro I think he's talking about how the video never gets distracted from the title. And started with the appropriate notion of how a viewer would think.
@kosukemiura1226
@kosukemiura1226 6 лет назад
*Never gets distracted with the title* Vsauce is shaking
@AustrianEconomist
@AustrianEconomist 5 лет назад
@@OnlyBibekdas bro i think he's talking about how the video uses scientific references, and not just opinion statements...
@user-ov2fc5sd1e
@user-ov2fc5sd1e 3 года назад
@@CoolestUserEver you read my mind!
@Whatevsbabes
@Whatevsbabes 3 года назад
I think it’s talking about how it doesn’t carry on unnecessarily before starting on the topic. It’s straight to the point.
@TheEightshot
@TheEightshot 5 лет назад
has there ever been a reverse study to the one done in japan? i.e. growing crops in a low CO2 density to see if the nutritional values became more concentrated?
@BrandonCase
@BrandonCase 5 лет назад
Probably - but reviewing the problem as a thought experiment is enough to show it likely wouldn’t produce a valuable finding. He mentions toward the end that current produce has roughly the same total nutrient value per plant, it’s just diluted by extra plant sugars due to the abundance of CO2. So if you grew vegetables in an environment with less CO2, they’d grow slower and smaller, but likely without the diluting effect - you’d basically end up with a smaller carrot with fewer calories but an equal amount of nutrients, compared with one grown in an enriched environment. It would be a step backward for fighting global hunger (limiting essentially free calories), but could help people refrain from overeating (although there are arguably better solutions in that regard).
@BrandonCase
@BrandonCase 5 лет назад
Eucenor Touché! Let’s start a business :)
@aaronrobinson2121
@aaronrobinson2121 5 лет назад
@@BrandonCase Make it a weight loss diet and you're golden. Get more vitamins for less carbs! Feel full on less! I'd buy that.
@jbertucci
@jbertucci 5 лет назад
@@aaronrobinson2121 Another reason for going Keto or at least low carb. You can get a lot of micronutrients eating lots of fibrous veggies with your animal protein and fats, and will not get too much carbs.
@joshn7232
@joshn7232 5 лет назад
@@eucenor4171 did you mean to comment on the original commentor?
@sabinrawr
@sabinrawr 2 года назад
I was actually thinking about the dilution effect long before he mentioned it, right around when he showed the shrinking corn. If makes sense that it you have the same nutrients packed into a larger volume, it will appear as a deficiency.
@kyle333halfevil
@kyle333halfevil 3 года назад
I love how excited he is talking about something that could potentially doom us all.
@wj3186
@wj3186 2 года назад
I've seen this sort of optimism before. He's likely the sort to maintain that disposition unless the mortal consequences of the disaster were to persist. There are a lot of people out there who think they have solutions to a myriad of problems however I have observed it is often these "solutions" that give way to another set of problems. I have to wonder if there is a limit to ingenuity that has yet to be accounted for.
@michaellopez-lq5fn
@michaellopez-lq5fn 2 года назад
We all die someday, don’t worry. Worry only serves us in its ability to spark action on that which you might be concerned about. Just do what you can and drop the worry, you’ll think clearer and have more energy worry free. If you want better food look into the Bionutrient food association and get ready to start growing yourself lol. Few farms these days are very good
@Bottley
@Bottley 2 года назад
@@michaellopez-lq5fn isn’t the entire point of the video that all plants have lower levels of vitamins and nutrients due to the rising level of co2 in the atmosphere? How would your home grown plants be any different lol
@michaellopez-lq5fn
@michaellopez-lq5fn 2 года назад
@@Bottley look into the Bionutrient food association. If you stop growing plants on fertilizer and instead grow them through soil microbial interactions you can grow significantly more nutritious food.
@scsi_joe
@scsi_joe 2 года назад
"I love how excited he is talking about something that could potentially doom us all." Naw, it won't doom us. What he failed to point out, is that during the time of the dinosaurs, for example, CO2 was in the 1000's ppm - and the animals were HUGE. So obviously they were getting enough protein from whatever was around.
@quahntasy
@quahntasy 6 лет назад
Veritasium is back. With Food
@TGears314
@TGears314 6 лет назад
Quahntasy - Animating Universe mukbang?
@skwisgaarskwigelf331
@skwisgaarskwigelf331 6 лет назад
But not cookies.
@Insertnamesz
@Insertnamesz 6 лет назад
Veryfatium
@Swedeninthahood
@Swedeninthahood 6 лет назад
I love ur vids Derek, however this video was all over place. Biology is more complex then C02 concentration. Nitrogen is, for example a major source of crops enlargement. As is the bacterial fauna in the soil. Your claims about the C02 increase are well taken, nevertheless to connect obesity to decrease of plant protein is not honest and misleading. The obesity epidemic, which is occurring globally, is mainly attributed to high fat/sugar intakes. So please pm me before you make another bio vid. Pz out
@MNbenMN
@MNbenMN 6 лет назад
@@Swedeninthahood Swedeninthahood OK, the multiple steps linking CO2 concentration in the air with obesity might be a speculative chain of correlations - especially without considering other variables, but I think it is safe to say that whether you call it "low protein" or "high sugar/fat" it is the same dietary situation. For a fixed quantity, a decrease in protein concentration would equate to a relative increase in sugar and fat concentration, would it not? To take it a step further, might not consuming food with a decreased protein lead to an over all increased quantity of food consumed, if you accept that protein is more effective at satiating appetite than sugar? I know there are other comments here stating that glucose is important in feeling full, but I know I personally feel full for longer after eating food with more protein than sugar than I do eating a the same amount of food with more sugar than protein. ( By "same amount" I mean similar total calories.)
@BerylliumOxide
@BerylliumOxide 5 лет назад
4:16 I'm starting to think that all documentaries from that time period were voiced by the same guy.
@jasonguest5820
@jasonguest5820 5 лет назад
That was back when there were like 8 TV channels on the planet.
@abyssstrider2547
@abyssstrider2547 5 лет назад
@@jasonguest5820 No. It was around a hundred.
@robwisdom4541
@robwisdom4541 5 лет назад
at 4:20 I called your guy Berylliosis
@THEMATT222
@THEMATT222 5 лет назад
Maybe it's more of the lw quality microphones. Like low quality videos make everyone's faces looks the same and barely recognizable due to low quality, probably the same with audio!
@BerylliumOxide
@BerylliumOxide 5 лет назад
@@THEMATT222 that makes sense
@irCurts_Old_Gamer
@irCurts_Old_Gamer 2 года назад
One thing that hit home pretty hard is that the amount of protein in goldenrod decreasing has little effect on humans but a huge effect on bees.
@justindavis2711
@justindavis2711 2 года назад
Bees arent as important as the media propaganda would lead you to believe. They are mostly artificially introduced to many countries, and if they die out, they would get replaced immediately by the next pollinator on the food chain.
@Adarsh_amd
@Adarsh_amd 2 года назад
hello fellow 🐝
@f3rn4n2x3str3ll4
@f3rn4n2x3str3ll4 2 года назад
This is why Sadhguru has launched the Save Soil movement, a global endeavor to address this issue at the proper scale, in an inclusive manner, with accesible and understandable language, and making clear how this issue fits among other issues to make easier for people to see where to invest their energies in an effective manner. We can avoid famines, wars, reduce the effects of climate change, and raise healthier humans and other species if only all countries focus properly on soil
@ameysutar9932
@ameysutar9932 2 года назад
Yesss. He travelled 30000 on bike acroos world just to make us aware about this situation. Lets make it happen
@ellieban
@ellieban 6 лет назад
"We’re still getting big plants, and they wouldn’t grow that well if they weren’t getting the nutrients they need" Not true. You get large leafy plants by adding nitrogen, farmers do that in spades to increase yields. But nutritional content comes from micronutrients, and farmers have been depleting those for 60 years. It’s a similar dilution mechanism to the one described for CO2. Adding climate change into the mix would exacerbate the problem. In short, it doesn’t have to be one or the other.
@noimnotnice
@noimnotnice 6 лет назад
Came to say this. Exactly right.
@veritasium
@veritasium 6 лет назад
I think this is a fair point.
@phetaduck
@phetaduck 6 лет назад
Wanted to say exactly that. By the way many minerals are not used by plants but still absorbed when they replace "similar" elements. Like selenium replacing sulfur in some organic or inorganic compounds, while it useless (but harmless) for plants it is essential for us humans. And it is rare and may be depleting.
@EricWilliamsCG
@EricWilliamsCG 6 лет назад
I need a Mineralmania documentary to supplement Vitamania documentary :-D
@DamianReloaded
@DamianReloaded 6 лет назад
What about pesticides? Maybe some of the micro nutrients used to came from biology that pesticides won't allow anymore.
@clarabrandaog
@clarabrandaog 4 года назад
I love how this thumbnail looks like a fancy portrait of a rich plant guy
@tanishqsinghbajwa4542
@tanishqsinghbajwa4542 3 года назад
Haha lol
@NamaiWalterHeins-re4nu
@NamaiWalterHeins-re4nu 3 года назад
Well if you want your veggies to be grown biodynamic organicly, and you live in/nearby city... You kinda need to be rich to afford it all. Unless you get cheaper farmersmarkets around you or life nearby some farmer who produces without toxic chemicals...
@tunabilgin1993
@tunabilgin1993 3 года назад
@@NamaiWalterHeins-re4nu yawn
@neillunavat
@neillunavat 3 года назад
He looks like an advocate for carrots n stuff.
@aBradApple
@aBradApple 3 года назад
Like… a farmer?
@annakaricole9368
@annakaricole9368 2 года назад
I am so glad you did this video... I have suspected that the reason we have "found" foods with amazing sources of vitamins and minerals because we are breeding out the vitamins and minerals of our common foods and now we need less common foods to increase those levels in our own bodies. I have argued this for YEARS. Thank you thank you for doing this one. So crazy that it is related to CO2 instead!
@wmoo3440
@wmoo3440 2 года назад
My opinion is that all the young kids of todays generation look way worse and less mature than older generations kids of the same age this might have something to do with this
@livinglifeleona
@livinglifeleona 3 года назад
I used to LOOOOVE fruits and vegetables, but in recent years, I can literally tell something is "off" and I haven't been enthused to eat them. They seem to mimic the original plants but touching them looking at them, I get the impression they're fake, totally unappetizing. Anyone else get that feeling? Update: I Googled it and I'm not the only one thinking produce in America is becoming absolutely tasteless, but home garden food is still flavorful. :0
@kristjanveski
@kristjanveski 2 года назад
Yes, they seem to be way more concerned about size and appearance, than of flavor and (presumably) nutrition.
@kristenli1161
@kristenli1161 2 года назад
At least for the mushrooms, I can say the same thing. When I was in Asian or Europe, mushrooms cooked with salt taste really flavorful. It’s such a unique and strong flavor that you might need some time to fall in love with. But the American mushrooms taste plain.
@xeelaxiu9039
@xeelaxiu9039 2 года назад
omg yes. Ironically, in china they still have some real vegetables and fruits, I don't know why. But not super many, but more than we have in the west. I'm even vegan and I feel there's something wrong with it all. I didn't feel this as a kid and I'm not a picky eater
@ariyune7007
@ariyune7007 2 года назад
@@xeelaxiu9039 Lol, china and thinking anything there is remotely fresh or organic, now that's a good joke
@xeelaxiu9039
@xeelaxiu9039 2 года назад
@@ariyune7007 it's certainly fresh when you buy the expensive ones, and yes, it's not organic, but somehow it tastes - feels real and not weird like the vegetables and fruits we eat.
@joshdavis935
@joshdavis935 5 лет назад
What about ripeness? For instance, I work in a grocery store, so I'm not sure how the picking process at the farm works, but I would assume the fruits and vegetables are picked green or slightly green, and then they ripen "off the vine" while they are packed and shipped to whatever warehouse ships them to the store they end up at. If this is the case, wouldn't they have less nutrients in them than a fruit or vegetable that is allowed to ripen "on the vine", like in a garden?
@albert_the_cool8092
@albert_the_cool8092 3 года назад
thats an interesting idea
@Bluequaz
@Bluequaz 3 года назад
Somewhat, yes, also fruits and vegetables are force ripened with chemicals often
@JerryB507
@JerryB507 3 года назад
Fruits don't really ripen off the vine. They may take on the appearance of ripeness, but the nutritional value is static or decreases from the time it is picked. In the eyes and taste buds of humans, a banana will ripen off the vine. It will in fact get sweeter as it changes from green to yellow to brown. Big but, the nutritional value decreases as the starch is converted into sugars.
@JerryB507
@JerryB507 3 года назад
@@Bluequaz color change doesn't equal ripeness. If you picked a green tomato and set it on the counter to "ripen" and when red picked a green tomato from the same plant, they would taste the same. Source: My Middle School Science Fair experiment, circa 19XX.
@paragn667
@paragn667 3 года назад
@@JerryB507 the taste decreases too, so a lot of cooks grow their own tomatoes because farmers pick them unripe because the ripe tomato is too soft for transport.
@loloioi
@loloioi 5 лет назад
I was talking to this guy whose wife is a Soil and crop nutritionist expert who studies a lot on the nutritional value of our crops. He was very passionate about the subject like his wife. He told me that his wife showed him all the data about the nutritional value from crops and he was shocked to see how much nutritional value has decreased. People have always mentioned about this topic to me and I have read up on certain studies. I'm glad you're talking about it in a video Veritasium :D
@nocensorship8092
@nocensorship8092 4 года назад
yea im glad too, I've known about this for long but nobody talks about it and you don't learn it in school
@MathieuDeVinois
@MathieuDeVinois 4 года назад
Taking in account how much people eat each day, people get far more nutrients than the body actually needs. Today’s problem is that we eat to much of everything. Far to much. So much that everything reaches a poisonous boarder where the bodies incapabilities starts.
@lorissupportguides
@lorissupportguides 3 года назад
@@MathieuDeVinois no people dont get enoug vitamins and fibers. they eat processed carbs proteins and fats
@Growmap
@Growmap 3 года назад
@@MathieuDeVinois More likely, the problem is that people are eating too much processed food containing HFCS and GMO corn. Half of HFCS tested was high in mercury which causes many health issues. Yellow dent corn is almost pure starch.
@chronomancer8772
@chronomancer8772 3 года назад
@@MathieuDeVinois yeah but eat a lot of crap like twinkies, breakfast cereal, corn chips, soda ect. at least in the us. You eat more carbs to make up for the lack of nutrients. it's hard to feel full when you're starving for fat protein and micros. It's a lot easier to eat a ton of chips than a stick of butter so our wheat-sugar-corn diet is going to make you fat. I've seen people who are fat and malnourished and it's not that uncommon.
@eerielconstantine5051
@eerielconstantine5051 2 года назад
There’s also food being rushed to be sold when it’s not ready. How much nutrition can there be in a green tomato ripened with gas vs a tomato that ripens on the vine?
@CrusaderSchmedes
@CrusaderSchmedes 2 года назад
For anybody growing their own crops, try heirloom seeds, they are the closest we can get to the natural crop (unless it gets cross-pollinated with some Monsanto abomination, although it should retain the original traits, not the modified ones)
@benhail3624
@benhail3624 Год назад
AHHHRRRAAAHHHHHAAAAA!!!!!!!!!!
@cincin4515
@cincin4515 Год назад
Whats that got to do with anything?
@classicrocklover5615
@classicrocklover5615 5 лет назад
If you want the healthiest plants possible, you have to create, maintain and support a healthy biome in the top soil. Constantly replenishing the nutrients in the soil that the plants consume - that's the purpose of natural fertilizers with organic matter, like compost, manure, etc. You can also use fish fertilizer and work it into the ground, or even molasses. Conversational farming practices of only applying NPK is like feeding ONLY fast food to a person. They might still be alive, but they are not healthy.
@perzonne6302
@perzonne6302 Год назад
Is it even possible to recreate a "top soil" like the one nature creates over 1000s of years?
@JustinDrentlaw
@JustinDrentlaw 5 лет назад
You missed a perfect opportunity to say "Now that's some food for thought" at the end of the video.
@gamehatter6216
@gamehatter6216 5 лет назад
It's been said in EVERY FOOD DOCUMENTARY EVER. I'm glad he didn't.
@joeythomas9251
@joeythomas9251 5 лет назад
That’s not his style.
@blackmamba24rh
@blackmamba24rh 5 лет назад
@@gamehatter6216 Exactly!
@bigman489
@bigman489 5 лет назад
This veritasium not vsauce.
@baderminahdin9450
@baderminahdin9450 5 лет назад
that's lame
@Poncki
@Poncki 2 года назад
this man goes so far to make his videos good, HE EVEN TOOK A PHOTOSHOOT WITH CARROTS
@zoltan8159
@zoltan8159 2 года назад
I mean, if we're artifically increasing the size of vegetables, doesn't that mean they could be less nutritionally concentrated as a result? So we get to have a nicer bigger fuller looking apple but we don't necessarily expect the nutritional value of two apples of its size equivalent
@bloodyidit4506
@bloodyidit4506 2 года назад
It's not just that either, the big apples actually have batches from time to time that taste like soap, even when washed. "Red Delicious" especially. The chemicals are even affecting the taste negatively.
@LezaHDPlus
@LezaHDPlus 2 года назад
compare a strong man from Africa and a buff man from protein powder, who do you think is stronger?
@bloodyidit4506
@bloodyidit4506 2 года назад
@@LezaHDPlus Depends on the man.
@mikaelsvensson6644
@mikaelsvensson6644 5 лет назад
Probably could have gone more in depth on the soil depletion topic. The way we are growing crops commercially are seriously damaging the soil and thus limiting the nutrients available for plants. I found it really interesting that the co2 increase in the air are making the plants larger. Thank you for sharing this. :)
@to9100
@to9100 6 лет назад
Why don't they try growing the plant samples in the lower CO2 concentrations of 100 years ago and seeing if that matches up with samples of that time.
@sambishara9300
@sambishara9300 6 лет назад
Adding CO2 is easier than removing it.
@eyeborg3148
@eyeborg3148 6 лет назад
This is a good question. And it’s not hard to remove CO2.
@superroydude
@superroydude 6 лет назад
This could be the start of a cataclysmic catastrophe. Entire ecosystems could be shoved out of sync causing famines and illness world wide. I don't think they have 100 years to spare.
@ryanasher6390
@ryanasher6390 6 лет назад
Because the seeds of the plants haven't remained the same, it would take a long time, as growing plants used to more CO2 with less, is essentially starving them, which could possibly even cause them to hardly grow at all.
@belg4mit
@belg4mit 6 лет назад
Interesting idea. There isn't even any need to scrub the atmosphere the plants would be grown in, simply enrich it with a little bit of nitrogen from a tank.
@TheAtom2626
@TheAtom2626 3 года назад
An anecdote, in 2010, I went to Cameroun for a month. I immediately noticed how little I needed to eat and how little I was pooping, when compared to my life in North America. It always seemed to me like their food was much more fulfilling. It's an anecdote not a scientific conclusion, but it struck me how this could be a sign that our food may be big, but empty of nutrients.
@TheVanillatech
@TheVanillatech 2 года назад
Veritasium, why are you not on national TV networks already? With the amount of content you've created of top drawer quality over the years, theres at least half a decades worth of series that you could be educating the globe with. =
@Mmdg634
@Mmdg634 Год назад
They don’t want the general population to be smart, easier to control
@UniquePanda0
@UniquePanda0 6 лет назад
Maybe if we start calling it "food change" instead of "climate change" more people would worry?
@michalvalta5231
@michalvalta5231 5 лет назад
And how is "worrying" productive? We don't need people to worry... We need people to act. Not to mention, climate change just happens. We are so dumb to think WE are causing it... Well, some of us are... If it's us, how do you explain all the ice ages? :D
@guilhermetonon7267
@guilhermetonon7267 5 лет назад
@@michalvalta5231 worry comes up before the act...
@esfandhussain
@esfandhussain 5 лет назад
@@michalvalta5231 Please tell me your kidding or something, right? RIGHT?
@123455866201Aaron
@123455866201Aaron 5 лет назад
@@esfandhussain stfu and keep watching memes idiot
@outship9801
@outship9801 5 лет назад
@Guilherme Tonon good point
@AJD...
@AJD... 6 лет назад
how come when you say it, it becomes so interesting whereas when i try to tell the same thing to my friends they all don't care. you're a great teller man!
@2adamast
@2adamast 6 лет назад
Because he makes it simple: carbohydrates are no nutrients in his book and less gluten is called less proteins
@lucasfrykman5889
@lucasfrykman5889 6 лет назад
No... You probably just don't know social cues. They may have more relevant things in their lives to care about. If they are interested, they'll ask(probably not you).
@CC-jy4gr
@CC-jy4gr 5 лет назад
@@lucasfrykman5889 lol your probably an asshole but more than likely correct.
@mrtuber3491
@mrtuber3491 2 года назад
The microbes in the soil are dying out because of intensive farming practices. When you expose the top soil to sunlight the microbes start dying out. The microbes breakdown the nutrients in the soil into a form that the plants are able to absorb. Similar to how the microbes in the human gut breakdown the food we eat into nutrients our body can absorb.
@TonnoNinja
@TonnoNinja 2 года назад
Sunlight don't kill bacteria
@billyd7628
@billyd7628 2 года назад
@@TonnoNinja yes it does, sunlight slowly kills us too. bacteria doesn't have the same defenses more complex animals have. you leave bacteria unprotected on a random surface and it will die. from having its cells destroyed by uv light.
@dodger1x
@dodger1x 3 года назад
You have mastered the youtube algorithm;) All your old videos are spamming my feed 😅 I’m glad you will still make alot of money on your old content. Well deserved:)
@brettcollier2310
@brettcollier2310 6 лет назад
Dude... did you just skip over soil depletion and fertilization by saying 'they still grow big, so can't be a problem?!?!' - The difference between looking after soil using compost, fallow crops and charcoal vs. modern chemical fertilizers is a massive deal, how could you just skip that? In a nutshell, there is supposed to be a healthy living ecosystem in soil and its also supposed to have trace amounts of almost all elements in it. Over time plants absorb these trace minerals and then we eat them and absorb them. However, if we don't use proper soil maintenance techniques, and instead we use modern fertilizers, then for the most part we are only replacing the nitrogen, phosphorous and potassium in the soil. These are essential ingredients for plant growth, and allow plants to grow big. However, over time, by never replacing the other minerals and elements in the soil, the soil becomes depleted. This is why we need mineral supplements and multivitamins today - because we no longer get them in our food. Thus, you have neglected a major factor in plant nutrition without even acknowledging it properly. That said, genetic manipulation, artificial fertilizers and increased CO2 do all contribute to larger plants with lower nutrient concentrations, so thank you for pointing that out. However, do please inform people about the great importance of healthy topsoil. Its been a huge part of our history, as cultures who don't respect topsoil usually suffer the consequences. Check out "Topsoil and Civilization. By Tom Dale and Vernon Gill Carter." for more info.
@AbsurdAsparagus
@AbsurdAsparagus 6 лет назад
your the one doing the skiping, you just ignored his statement that farmers do alot to take care of the soil, which is literally all that you have said. he said "farmers take care of the soil", you replied with "hay dont skip over the fact that you need to take care of the soil"
@UCFElCarnicero
@UCFElCarnicero 6 лет назад
Well in my experience they really don't all that much. Soil degradaton and desertification is a thing mostly progressed by monoculturist-agriculturists.
@brettcollier2310
@brettcollier2310 6 лет назад
exactly. considering the detail he goes into all the other parts - he skimped out on this one and left out some important info.
@Despote00
@Despote00 6 лет назад
A lot of farmer actually do not take care of their soil. They simply listen to their agronomist and import the fertilizer they ''need''. They do not respect the living micro-organism living in top soils, for the sole reason that they never actually heard about it or don't believe it. In most mind, nitrogen,phosphor and potassium is all you need. Calcium for tomatoes. Round-up before and after the culture being growth. Ah, that actually pisses me off
@sablesoul
@sablesoul 6 лет назад
"they really don't all that much" well then that is not up to him to discuss then is it? That's just legislation regarding farmers
@Blindboard100
@Blindboard100 6 лет назад
Can you talk about how we waste so much food in our current system?
@Jorgen223
@Jorgen223 6 лет назад
i heard it takes a lot of work to ship that food all around the world
@Limpass610
@Limpass610 6 лет назад
Crevetta yep Could be OR by decreasing our meat consumption Look i love meat But its my guilty pleasure Fact is The amount of crops we produce a year can feed well over the world population(11 billion for that matter) Its just that alot of it goes to animal farming Which is really inefficient. Though new methods are coming Namely the lab grown meat
@data3419
@data3419 6 лет назад
Crevetta 3 times over
@simmerke1111
@simmerke1111 6 лет назад
We can do a lot better with our resources. But don't expect food to be shipped. As long as there's no benefit for someone atleast.
@forestcuriousity
@forestcuriousity 6 лет назад
i hear 80% of our food that we grow goes to feeding cattle so we can eat the cattle. seems wasteful to me
@EffySalcedo
@EffySalcedo 2 года назад
Its been 3 years, I'd like to point out that the video thumbnail is 🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥
@snipemastery
@snipemastery 10 месяцев назад
Thanks to this video I did a capstone project on this topic! Thank you!
@feelfreefpv
@feelfreefpv 6 лет назад
Depletion of the soil may be a bit too easily dismissed. Sure the farmers put fertilizers in the soil but thay may be optimized for growth rather than nutritious food. I know too little about this, I hope im wrong, it was just a thaught.
@Chris-qf8wr
@Chris-qf8wr 6 лет назад
The fertilizers farmers puts in are mostly consists of Nitrogen, Phosphorus, Potassium, Magnesium, Sulfur, Iron, and micronutrients (Cu, Mn, Zn, etc). Those are the raw materials for the plants to produce nutritious foods, it depends on the plant's physiology and the environment (water, temperature, hormones, etc) factors to actually produce nutritious food
@hazardousmaterial5492
@hazardousmaterial5492 6 лет назад
CO2 concentration and soil depletion are mutually connected. More CO2 in the atmosphere causes acidic rains, which change the pH of the soil. Even if farmers are careful enough and they enrich their soil with microelements (iron, zinc) as well as your standard NPK (Nitrogen, Phosphorous, Pottasium) fertilizers, plants can only absorb certain nutrients if the pH of the soil is the correct amount (usually a pH of around 7 ensures that all elements are absorbed sufficiently). If the pH deviates from that value, the plant's won't be able to absorb all of the nutrients that they require.
@TheMacak992
@TheMacak992 6 лет назад
You're not wrong my friend.
@michelepaccione8806
@michelepaccione8806 6 лет назад
It’s a good thought. Basically, what farmers do is kill all living organisms in the soil, depleting it of its natural nutrients, and then attempt to replace those nutrients with a much narrower group of man made chemicals. The answer is feeding the soil with organic matter and becoming good stewards of the earth, rather than stripping it of nutritious soil.
@ibrahimalsaman8211
@ibrahimalsaman8211 6 лет назад
CO2 does not cause acid rain, sulfur dioxide and nitrogen oxides does.
@frodehau
@frodehau 6 лет назад
You are dismissing soils way to easily. Carbon content in soils have fallen sharply. The soil food web has changed because of this. Mycorrhizza fungi builds soil carbon because it needs it to buffer water, as the fungi needs a certain moisture level to thrive. Most plants associate with this type of fungi, and trade minerals and water with them for carbohydrates and some protein. Please learn more about the soil food web, and you will understand that while atmospheric carbon and plant genetics both are important, they are not the answer alone. Nature is complex, so reductionistic thinking can only get you so far. To find real answers, systems thinking is needed. A good place to start is to learn to differentiate between complicated and complex systems.
@julianzacconievas
@julianzacconievas 6 лет назад
You make a good point. Your wording is not very good though, to be heard you need more than just a valid message. Make people want to listen to you (Y)
@notrandom2
@notrandom2 6 лет назад
www.politico.com/agenda/story/2017/09/13/food-nutrients-carbon-dioxide-000511 "Rising CO2 revs up photosynthesis... but it also leads them to pack in more carbohydrates like glucose at the expense of other nutrients that we depend on..."
@anybodynoname8767
@anybodynoname8767 6 лет назад
Frode Haugsgjerd agree
@Exunary
@Exunary 6 лет назад
Uhh, the wording is just fine... its just a youtube comment
@sebastianramadan8393
@sebastianramadan8393 6 лет назад
Indeed, and while we're talking about the mineral composition of food and fungi, perhaps if Derek has a follow-up to this planned, he should focus on the nutrient values of our fungal foods to be precise. I'd hazard a guess that we're waging war against some of the other fungi out there by selecting the food we eat, and some of the other fungi might actually be winning that war... thus we should see lower levels of protein everywhere in the planet (except for those fungal species), for example... blue green algae comes to mind.
@adamesd3699
@adamesd3699 2 года назад
As other people have mentioned, fruits and vegetables often taste watered down. Particularly in the US. I’ve lived and traveled in many parts of the world. You can really tell the difference. Mangoes, strawberries, etc. The ones from big box grocery stores like Ralph’s or Vons or Albertsons are almost inedible. Organic are better, farmers markets are best. But often still not as good as a market in Europe or Asia or Africa. I don’t know why.
@kaushalkavekar
@kaushalkavekar 2 года назад
seed quality degeneration. Thanks to chemical usage in earlier crops. Need to start using good quality seeds with better genetics.
@adamesd3699
@adamesd3699 2 года назад
@@kaushalkavekar Interesting. I never thought of that, but it makes sense. So how does one learn about the seed quality used by different farms/brands? I live in a city and am several steps removed from the actual farms and farmers. Plus I wouldn’t know good seeds from bad seeds even if I held them in my hand. All I’d know is to start with Google.
@alizaka1467
@alizaka1467 2 года назад
​@@adamesd3699 My aunt, due to her job, travels a lot. She noticed similar. In Pakistan, mangos are sugary sweet and soft. The flesh melts in your mouth and there is an explosion of flavors. So she was telling us once that in one country(don't remember exactly which one as it has been many years) mangos were hard and you had to bite the flesh and chew it a few times to eat it. And when she asked if they have sweeter or softer ones, the locals said that it's the normal kind around here and the softer ones are usually imported from different countries.
@benjaminhaase7223
@benjaminhaase7223 2 года назад
I completely agree. I'm an American in Germany right now, and have been saying how the carrots are just so much better. In France I was saying the same thing about the nectarines and strawberries. The US is doomed for quality food.
@adamesd3699
@adamesd3699 2 года назад
@@benjaminhaase7223 OK, so we’ve identified the problem. What is the solution, other than become a multi-millionaire, but a diversified farm, and plant organic crops with only the best seeds? Is the solution farmers markets? I know it’s not Whole Foods. It’s better than Safeway or the other big box groceries, but it’s still part of the same race to the bottom ecosystem.
@sashacurcic1719
@sashacurcic1719 8 месяцев назад
"Farmers have always put a lot of effort into maintaining their soils and using fertilizers to ensure that the plants have all the nutrients they need." Beg to differ. Why do you think the US began acquiring the Guano Islands in the 1850s? Because we were mass producing monoculture crops without regard for sustainable farming practice. Soil depletion was a national crisis until the Haber-Bosch process enabled us to make plants bigger without regard for other chemicals (like the decreasing calcium and iron and other micronutrients that you just brought up,) which brings me to your next point. "We're still getting big plants, and they wouldn't grow that well if they weren't getting the nutrients they need from the soil." That's logically fallacious reasoning. Big plant does necessarily equal nutritious plant. The question is over the nutrients *we* need, not the nutrients they need to grow.
@WarmWeatherGuy
@WarmWeatherGuy 6 лет назад
Farmers only add NPK (nitrogen phosphorous potassium) and that is good enough for the plants. Humans need selenium, iodine, zinc, copper, molybdenum, manganese, etc. Farm lands used to get replenished by floods but now we have dams preventing that so each crop reduces the mineral content of the soil. Please do a video about trace minerals in crops.
@transcendentape
@transcendentape 6 лет назад
Farmers add various micronutrients as needed as well. Soil tests are done regularly to determine what is needed.
@danielamoxilina
@danielamoxilina 6 лет назад
What is the percentage of farmers that add micronutrients to the soil? And what is the percentage of third world farmers that do this? ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ In this particular argument, WarmWeatherGuy got it right and Veritasium got it wrong.
@belg4mit
@belg4mit 6 лет назад
Plants rely on photosynthesis, and chlorophyll requires magnesium.
@WarmWeatherGuy
@WarmWeatherGuy 6 лет назад
I'm guessing that they may add what is needed for the crops to sell, not what is needed for optimal human nutrition.
@tauceti8341
@tauceti8341 6 лет назад
I was wondering if they added azomite the natural minerals found in the soil, if they crop yields would be the same or even better.
@SkipLaC
@SkipLaC 6 лет назад
All the more reason that we should seriously be looking into mass scale regenerative agriculture. People like Gabe Brown have proven on thousands of acres to be able to systemically increase soil carbon by half a percent a year. 1% to 1.5% to 2% to 2.5% to 3% to 3.5% and so on. Another wonderful example is Allan Savory in Africa who has learned how to properly manage cattle and literally turn desert back into carbon sequestering grassland. The major difference being that if cattle are loose stock to an unmanaged they will destroy the land and turn it into desert but if they are mob stock rotationally grazed they will turn desert back into grassland. They're also happens to be quite a few other factors in the nutrient reduction of our food that you failed to mention. A couple examples of which are: The chemical chelation effect of glyphosate. The systemic destruction of the soil life (bacteria and fungi) which is necessary for plants to be able to digest the minerals trapped in double and triple bonds in the sand, silt, clay and rocks from which all plants have gotten their nutrients since plants came into existence. Especially the mycorrhizal fungal networks that are destroyed by tillage. I wonder if you know that both humans and plants are essentially incapable of digesting their own food and rely upon bacteria and fungi to break down their food into forms that the bodies of the plants and humans can use.
@alpualyou
@alpualyou 6 лет назад
Well put. And the goldenrod experiment doesn’t seem to take into account the fact that soil from centuries back was likely much healthier in this regard.
@nanalilidancegalaxy9571
@nanalilidancegalaxy9571 6 лет назад
When you think about it, "both humans and plants are essentially incapable of digesting their own food and rely upon bacteria and fungi to break down their food into form that humans and plants can use", it's really fascinating, because it shows how every single thing in this word is connected. Change one little factor and you'll have consequences on a big scale, even though it might take time for us to get that. Also, I think another important point as been cut out from this video: bees and other insects and the role they have in the plant kingdom as fertilizer. I'm pretty sure everybody knows their numbers has shrunk drastically, up to the point that if we don't inverse this tendance, we will have to do it ourselves (and I don't think we have that capacity, nor that we can check exactly all the little things that nature do in between the "birth" and the finished produce...) And yeah, today's food is poisonous, no so much that massive populations die of it, but I think it will have an impact on us at some point, and that is also completely overlooked. If I made some mistakes, I blame the fact that English isn't my mother tongue. Also I know I didn't put any link along with my claims, but I'm pretty sure you can find every information needed by looking for them on the net.
@CC-jy4gr
@CC-jy4gr 5 лет назад
word up good comment
@kynchan3332
@kynchan3332 2 года назад
Can start with the hilly areas that are difficult to farm with machines by planting plenty of perennial food crops eg fruit and nut trees, berry bushes. The fertility will flow down stream in the form of leaves and seeds.
@morganjones4281
@morganjones4281 2 года назад
"This isn't a very convincing argument because if the soil has less nutrients than how are the plants growing so big?" Next theory: "The plants are growing bigger than ever, but that doesn't mean they're as nutritious." I think you just gave the counterargument to your counterargument for argument 1. Having large produce yields is not the same as that produce being rich in nutrients, and of course farmers "try to give their plants the nutrients they need" but this doesn't mean that modern fertilizer automatically offsets all deficiencies in degraded soil.
@neelroy2918
@neelroy2918 3 года назад
There was an article an year back that by end of century increased co2 will start affecting our mental processes. Although based on tiktoks it may have started already.
@benyaminyeremaia5749
@benyaminyeremaia5749 4 года назад
Hello! I really love this channel and I really appreciate the work of knowledge spreading that you people do. So I wanted to add my humble opinion (as a permaculture and natural agriculture learner) about the arguments that you used in this video. I think this is a very complex topic and this video was way too short and limited. I don't want to make a scientific essay here about the topic, it's just a simplistic opinion comment based on the information, books, articles and experience that I accumulated on the study of Agriculture, in order to expand a bit the view about it. (Sorry for my English orthography and grammar mistakes :): 1. "They're ensuring that soil gets enough fertilizers and nutrients" That exactly one of the main problems about food production nowadays and that's why even big industry is going back to ecological and natural processes based' fertilization. It's not the same that you put 20 grams of pure Nitrogen in the soil than letting agents of nature get 20 grams of nitrogen from the atmosphere, because in this natural way there is a huge number of parallel processes taking place and producing secondary products that goes to different metabolic ways all around the plant and inside the plant. This vision of agriculture was a big failure of glorifying the little knowledge of chemistry that we had one hundred years ago, that saw agriculture as "making a soup", you just add those ingredients and then you have a beautiful vegetable soup. But nature doesn't work like that, and has been proven that this vision took our soil to decay dramatically, all the microfauna disappeared with it, plants are more vulnerable to plagues and natural elements (wind, water flows, etc), also the soil's capacity of holding water falls, etc etc etc . In the "Wicked Problems" theory (Rittel & Webber) expose that a big thing to keep in mind when we face nature problems is that any solution to a "wicked problem" will bring unexpected consequences, so we should stay in the "heuristics of fear" (If applying some new tech or knowledge can bring negative consequences better let keep going further in the study before applying it). 2. This could sound conspiracy, but unfortunately science is lot of times pollute by market and money interest. Agriculture and Cattle Raising are two of the biggest industries in this planet, and so they are very pollute by money interest, which blocks the advance of learning in the field. Is not like I'm saying that there is a big powerfull head making horrible plans about what you can learn or not, my point of view is that this big head is more ignorant or trapped in the established system than evil, it's more that people fall into believing and maintaining the habits of humans that thought them how to do agriculture, because it's a hard thing to change the way of thinking and to accept that a lot of knowledge that you already learned is wrong. Also we fall in the "lock in" effect, so it's hard to change a system that is so implemented already. 3. That plants are big and look green and healthy don't necessary means that they're productive and healthy. Sometimes this actually comes because human fertilizers produce that the plant spends more energy on growing leafs than it needs, and so metabolism gets altered. Fukuoka demonstrated, with his natural agriculture system, that his plants of rice which had smaller leafs than big convencional agriculture producers' rice plants, were, however, much more efficient in rice production, using absolutely no external products no tilling, no machinery, and relying on crops rotation, compost, etc... 4. About selective breeding, I'm agree. Also with GMO there is the problem that we look to improve one side of the plant but we don't realize that this will change the other side. Is like when psychiatrist thought that to solve depression you just take off this part of the brain without realizing that you are probably affecting hundreds of other functions from the brain 5. Cattle Rising I would say is the biggest problem of food industry. Let say it more clear; Meat is a problem. I'm not vegan and it's not a preferences discussion. It's obvious and proven that cattle rising (in the way we do it nowadays, due to the tremendous demand) is one of the biggest problems we have both for the environment and for humankind (if we can even separate those two). I don't want to make a scientific essay here, so as a resume; you take 10 thousand cows, put them in a little room, they don't develop right, they get weak, they don't develop their muscles and systems, they get sick, you give them antibiotics, they produce metan, they feel fear and depression (which has been proven that they do feel it), viruses mutate (hello A-flu, Influenza, and probably Covid-19), and well in conclusion you have a very sad, poorly nutritious, medicated and polluting peace of meat that if you eat everyday will increase your chance to suffer various kinds of cancer and heart diseases. 6. Also there is a problem about fertilizers, plaguicides, fungicides, and the infinite list of products that farmers think they need for some strange reason that I still don't understand as a natural farmer learner. They not only destroys the ecosystem around, but also most of times contains substances that are not digestible both for human body and animal os plants bodies, and so they accumulate and produce various diseases. 7. About the CO2 factor, that's something I had no idea about, and I think it's really interesting. Just want point, plants need CO2 to develop but that doesn't mean that they are able to consume and infinite quantity of it as sometimes I heard. It can cause overdose in the same way that water can cause hyperhidratation and can even kill you.
@misterblank7795
@misterblank7795 2 года назад
This comment was a very good read, thanks.
@zuhar2526
@zuhar2526 Год назад
Thank you for taking tge time to expand on the topic. If i were you i would publish your comment in a blog post in "exp. medium". It is a very good article!
@LightBWK
@LightBWK 6 лет назад
The keyword is "soil food web". Mono-culture decreases the diversity in soil food web. Which leads to depletion from over harvesting/mining the same nutrient from the soil. Synthetic fertilizer only adds few nutrients but generally those few that make plant grow faster but not providing enough for the depleting nutrient. - Nitrogen (N): leaf growth - Phosphorus (P): Development of roots, flowers, seeds, fruit - Potassium (K): Strong stem growth, movement of water in plants, promotion of flowering and fruiting Plants need these but not only these. The check and balance of good soil is done by mycorrhizza fungi, the internet of plants. endomycorrhizza fungi sticks into the roots of most plants. Mycorrhizza fungi will trade/exchange and mine nutrients from the soil for the plant we consume and for itself. Kill mycorrhizza fungi and you get factory plants, plants with high NPK and carbon and lack everything else. In most mono-culture sites, mycorrhizza fungi level is extremely low. The soil food web is therefore broken/weak.
@samuelmjlfjell
@samuelmjlfjell 6 лет назад
I have listened to scientist like Elaine Ingham. I agree with this comment. The life in the Soil should be considered.
@LightBWK
@LightBWK 6 лет назад
Good that you brought her name up. Totally forgotten her name.
@samuelmjlfjell
@samuelmjlfjell 6 лет назад
@@LightBWK Yes I noticed how this video passes right by the life in the soil and just talks about minerals. Then the video jumps to climate change hot topic. Without even knowing that the life in the soil is what regulates the whole ecosystem. I give this video a two thumbs down for using unnamed sources. I call this video Fake News.
@tonywooten596
@tonywooten596 5 лет назад
Also called mycelium
@anyuisbjoern
@anyuisbjoern 5 лет назад
I love your coment. I also find his video this time a bit flat. Sometimes it seems that this science journalist try to want to simplify everything in nature so they can still feel comfortable. For me his explanations are some times to simple, but maybe i am just biased.
@jano8087
@jano8087 3 года назад
Thank you for the video. I think this issue is more complex that it seems and soil, breeding and agricultural practices also take an important part in it.
@huzbum
@huzbum 2 года назад
Glossed over soil degradation pretty quick there. Adding NPK fertilizer does nothing to preserve the health of soil. It's.a temporary fix that ends up contributing to the problem. No till regenerative farming is on the rise, but something like 80% of farms in the US are still plowing every year. That being said, farming practices wouldn't account for a global change as the CO2 explanation does. It's still important to acknowledge how damaging conventional farming is. Not only does it degrade soil, it also releases CO2 that could be captured in the soil.
@patrichausammann
@patrichausammann 5 лет назад
Mushrooms do produce a lot of proteins. So fungi and fermented food might be an adequate solution to get the necessary nutrition supplements in the future.
@SuchiththaW
@SuchiththaW 5 лет назад
Except the protein content in Fungi is extremely dependent on the growing medium. Mushrooms grown in Wheat, begin to take on the nutrient profile of the growing medium over time.
@patrichausammann
@patrichausammann 5 лет назад
​@@SuchiththaW I agree that some sortes of mushroom take over the nutrient profile of the grow medium, while other sortes, like yeast, do not need any proteines at all, to build their own ones.
@Meton2526
@Meton2526 5 лет назад
@@patrichausammann I think mushrooms are actually a really pitiful source of protein compared to legumes. The advantage of mushrooms is that they don't need sun so they can be farmed more densely in an environment where legumes won't grow, but gram for gram pinto beans will have 7 times the protein of button mushrooms. They also have a symbiotic relationship with nitrogen fixing microorganisms that are great for soil.
@patrichausammann
@patrichausammann 5 лет назад
@@Meton2526 I like beans and I agree, that they are very useful as an intercrop to revalue the soil with those nitrogen fixing microorganisms. But beans have their disadvantages too! Some sortes of beans have to be cooked for over an hour in boiling water to neutralize their toxines. And for people who have joint problems, it is not really conducive.I think it is not always about quantity. In this case I assume, that the contained amino acids and their composition may have an influence on the quality of the food source too. Incidentally, I still have various information on the value table of proteins here: green peas 37 lentil 40-50 oyster mushroom 49 white beans 63 green beans 72-73 Champignons 90 potatoes 91 egg 100 whey isolate 108
@jbertucci
@jbertucci 5 лет назад
Animal sources?
@XIanosX
@XIanosX 5 лет назад
Im studying Biologie and we talked about this in class a few weeks ago. There are even more factors that play a role in this. Firstly only one type of plant realy profits from higher CO2 levels: C3 Plants. All barley, wheat,rice and most crops belong in that group. The thing about these plants is that they are doing farly well with a decent amount of sun and enough water. But now higher CO2 levels forces these plants to absorb more water cause CO2 absorbtion and water circulation in plants is directly correlated, which means : our crops are going to grow faster in future but they are less nutritious and need way more water and climate chnage usually generates more drier weather. Source: Loladze, I. (2014). Hidden shift of the ionomeof plants exposed to elevated CO2depletes minerals at the base of human nutrition. eLife. 3: e02245. Myers, S.S., et al., (2014). Increasing CO2threatens human nutrition. Nature. 510: 139-142.
@cubiusblockus3973
@cubiusblockus3973 5 лет назад
Climate change doesnt necessarily equate to drier weather. The deserts on our planet happened because of the cool period of earth. The warmer it gets, the more likely we are going to end up with a tropical planet due to more evaporation, the tropic region of earth is expanding. Humidity keeps plants watered just as well as rain does, if not, better than rain does because the stomata dont need to fight reverse-osmosis. Before homo-sapians existed, the sahara was jungle, the planet cooled turning that jungle gradually into savanna, then into desert as it got cooler.... that same process of desertification is believed to be what turned a tree dwelling proto-human into a savanna up-right walking bad ass we call homo-sapiens. Our planet for most its history has been tropical, we are just heading back to that setup.
@brycesabin4787
@brycesabin4787 3 года назад
@John Ah yes, because science doesn't support climate change. Nope, not one study. There aren't hundreds or thousands of reputable studies on climate change. Nope. It's almost like we can't feel the effects of this "climate change." The average global temperature hasn't gone up at all which would disrupt many ecosystems. There is no evidence for this. Man, scientists are stupid right? Or maybe you're just delusional and do not want to see facts in our changing world. You are the people that will make up anything to disprove it, and the misinformed population like you are just making it harder to fix the climate and return it back to its natural state.
@neonlight1214
@neonlight1214 3 года назад
Ah yes as it got cooler the Sahara turned from a 30 degree jungle to a 45 degree desert? What cooling are you talking? Here in Europe we have for 3 consecutive years drought, for 3 years we received below the tolerant range of rain and in some places for 5 years. Climate change does not change the weather our planet is giving 1500m , 5500m or 36000m above our heads that rule weather patterns, as long as it is not TOO extreme, 1 or 2 or even 4 celsius is not extreme
@prashp143
@prashp143 3 года назад
Dumping organic waste in the ground rather than in a separate dumping zone helps. Jungle farming and multilayered farming with the closed loop method also makes a difference. Burial grounds can be good cultivable lands too.
@masterofreality926
@masterofreality926 2 года назад
Sustainable Agriculture
@Tommy50377
@Tommy50377 2 года назад
I don't know how I feel about growing crops on burial grounds, and literally sucking all the remaining nutrients out of our ancestors.
@shatakshisinghchauhan4713
@shatakshisinghchauhan4713 2 года назад
@@Tommy50377 There has been life on earth for a very long time with many many many things that roamed and could breath from single cellular to multicellular animals as well as plants so most the almost all of your body were once a part of someone else's body many times over.
@prashp143
@prashp143 2 года назад
@@Tommy50377 Being useful for the good of creation, even after death, is a privilege. Organic matter is rarest in the whole universe and doesn’t happen to come into existence as quickly as other matter. It’s a gift from creation itself. We have to really understand where to put our values correctly, and also our duty to give back to the nature, so that we can conserve life for our next generations.
@ronselliers6951
@ronselliers6951 3 года назад
Lose of mycelium in the soils by tilling and modern agricultural practices.
@jarilo8639
@jarilo8639 6 лет назад
Completely ignoring the fact that most fertilizers are made up of 3 things, which are the only things required for plants to grow big. Nitrogen, Phosphorus and Potassium. They don't typically add anything else to the soil since it doesn't help sales.
@dimitar4y
@dimitar4y 6 лет назад
Selling plastic fruit, they look and taste like fruit, but they kill ya by starvation. They only cost 1000x what the real thing costs... Apple seem to use this marketting strategy too succesfully...
@alpualyou
@alpualyou 6 лет назад
Adding non NPK fertilizers to supplement deficiencies is not equivalent to having living soil with a complex and robust food web, good structure and drainage, balanced fungal and bacterial communities, appropriate water content, etc. It may mean that there is Ca, Mg, etc present, but that doesn’t mean the uptake is the same.
@andrewofthelemon
@andrewofthelemon 6 лет назад
y'all this is such an amazingly persistent and patently false narrative I've literally heard like four talks in the last 5 years about addressing copper deficiencies in soil for example
@Delosian
@Delosian 3 года назад
I find it a fascinating thought that we have recently been breeding crops for size, speed, and the ability to fight off pests and pesticides, but not for nutrition. In the 1970s this wasn't so, I myself used to work in a Unilever lab where we tested plants to check their nutrient levels in the fruit trees that we were breeding. I can't speak for now though.
@ChaosEIC
@ChaosEIC 3 года назад
Well, they are probably still measuring it, but if you can't do anything about it, why tell everybody that your plants have bad nutrients?
@bbbbbbb51
@bbbbbbb51 3 года назад
@@ChaosEIC they can do something about it. They choose to cover up the problem with fertilizers so the size would stay the same & people wouldn't notice. Way cheaper for them & it's less work. If you want to learn how nutrients can be brought back to soil, do some research on the dust bowl & how we turned things around here in the US when our soil became barren.
@ChaosEIC
@ChaosEIC 3 года назад
@@bbbbbbb51 But there are not less nutrients in the soil. The plants simply grow bigger due to the high concentration of the CO2 fertilizer in the air and but dont extract more nutrients.
@thebananas6483
@thebananas6483 3 года назад
@@ChaosEIC There ARE less nutrients in the soil. I don't know why this guy didn't do more research into flash farming, and it's consequences. Not letting dead plants and animals decompose to return nutrients to the soil, not giving the soil ample time to replenish itself-instead immediately replanting as soon as possible after harvest, using poor fertilizers only meant to increase growth and growth speed-not any that would help increase the micronutrients in their soil, etc. While I'm sure the CO² based dilution effect is a contributing factor, that doesn't mean the soil isn't, as well. Many people who test soil nutrient levels and have studied the science have confirmed the increasing amounts of Soil Depletion.
@masterofreality926
@masterofreality926 2 года назад
@@thebananas6483 Yep, going sustanable is the only answer. Like Gabe did.
@kevinmorice2
@kevinmorice2 3 года назад
We have definitely been breeding the taste out of fresh fruit as we selectively breed it for size. Strawberries in the UK get bigger every year, but they are force grown for size because that is how they are priced. That is easily achieved by encouraging them to take up more water.
@ChronoSquare
@ChronoSquare 2 года назад
The goldenrod part surprised me, mostly about the fact that we have data that old from which we can compare.
@jaimeduncan6167
@jaimeduncan6167 6 лет назад
I love how you always go through the process to get a satisfactory answer. Discarding and forming hypotheses aa you go. Great job.
@brianmerkosky9243
@brianmerkosky9243 6 лет назад
Do farmers really add in all the nutrients or do they mostly just add nitrogen, phosphorous, and potassium?
@ObjectsInMotion
@ObjectsInMotion 6 лет назад
That is mostly all the plant needs. They are primary producers that can create all the vitamins and amino acids they need. They only need the proper minerals.
@brianmerkosky9243
@brianmerkosky9243 6 лет назад
@@ObjectsInMotion plants can't create minerals though. Of course a plant can create vitamins and complex molecules but it can't create magnesium, iodine, calcium, etc.. those have to come from the soil and if They are constantly being used and never replenished then that could be a problem.
@Dooban
@Dooban 6 лет назад
Yes, farmers worry about magnesium, iodine and calcium too. They have a lab analyze the soil and all these nutriets are taken into account.
@brianmerkosky9243
@brianmerkosky9243 6 лет назад
@@Dooban I don't think all farmers do this. I used to buy hemp from this one company that advertised that they fertilized with humic acids and they had lab reports that guarunteed their hemp had higher mineral content. If every farm did this then why would other hemp products not have the same nutrient profile?
@lasergames1798
@lasergames1798 6 лет назад
I can guarantee you american farmers fertilize their crops, rotate crops, and do soil testing. Hemp isn't a mainstream crop so don't expect consistency.
@samh1776
@samh1776 3 года назад
There’s a fundamental flaw with concluding that this issue in contributing to the obesity epidemic. I haven’t seen any studies indicating that in most obese ppl, the majority of their diet consists of whole natural unprocessed foods. Most studies show the diet consists of primarily high fat, high sugar, high salt, foods that are heavily processed and for THAT reason, low in nutrition.
@mbdg6810
@mbdg6810 3 года назад
True
@stephenbrown2054
@stephenbrown2054 3 года назад
Interesting ideas. It sounds as if C02 is a factor. There could be other influences too. Even wild goldenrod has changed over the last two centuries as it has had to compete with cultivated crops and deal with fertilizer pollution. Also goldenrod is likely growing in depleted soils compared to two centuries ago.
@tedo3332
@tedo3332 2 года назад
Bees actually involved in the selective breeding of it as well. They will visit what they prefer.
@MichaelGoydich63
@MichaelGoydich63 3 года назад
Great video, but you may have left out information about soil depletion and erosion (and other changes) that is important in order to understand what is happening to our soils, and therefore, what is happening to the foods that are grown in those soils. Look up the phrase "farmers only put three minerals back into the soil".
@kaderathebeekeeper22m3
@kaderathebeekeeper22m3 2 года назад
They should test nutrition levels of the same crops grown in different regions . Also logistics might be a contributing factor. Maybe also compare different methods of farming (e.g no-till farming vs till farming).
@michaellopez-lq5fn
@michaellopez-lq5fn 2 года назад
@@kaderathebeekeeper22m3 look at Bionutrient food association. They’re comparing soil and farming practices to the foods that result. Massive differences.
@user-kv6vf4xd8k
@user-kv6vf4xd8k 6 лет назад
How about the idea that vegies are becoming less nutritious(comparing to about 150yrs) because of the explosive growth of crop yields? ( assuming the 'total' nutritient content in the soil is consistent so individual crop have to share it)
@ThorstenStaerk
@ThorstenStaerk 2 года назад
I think you are 100% right with what you say. But also let's look at what you don't say. I remember growing up in the 80s and I tell you the tomatoes tasted like water. I hated them and preferred garden-grown tomatoes. Nowadays, I can't even taste the difference. 40 years ago, people did not take pictures of what were considered class A fruits. But if they had, I bet, the quality would have gone up. The strawberries I eat today look much bigger and better than what I had in my youth. And I talk about strawberries from German supermarkets (compare to Trader Joe's/Whole Food in USA).
@turbobrick1525
@turbobrick1525 3 года назад
best channel on RU-vid. Knowledge is POWER!!!!
@peterm.eggers520
@peterm.eggers520 5 лет назад
From what I've seen, soil regenerative practices increase plant and animal nutrients considerably.
@marklewis4793
@marklewis4793 5 лет назад
real soil regeneration takes time,..geological time,..not McDonalds time,lol
@peterm.eggers520
@peterm.eggers520 5 лет назад
@@marklewis4793 Actually, a misconception. Allan Savory developed the techniques over 50 years ago and has been spreading them around the world. Gabe Brown of North Dakota and Will Smith of Georgia have adapted the techniques to great benefits in profitability and vast improvements to the environments on their land. Allan Savory's 22 minute TED talk is a good place to start: ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-vpTHi7O66pI.html
@coldeeshiashi5922
@coldeeshiashi5922 4 года назад
What about golden rod. I think that there isnt as many competing weeds/plants which give this protein to bees. Thus they can focus on seeding rather then producing the protein which is the main part of its attraction.
@peterm.eggers520
@peterm.eggers520 4 года назад
@@coldeeshiashi5922 Goldenrod has different species adapted to different climates and geographies, and growing best in the cool of the fall. In quantity, it is toxic to cows, if forced to eat in exclusion of other forage, particularly the Rayless species. It does mot grow all year-round or everywhere. Both domestic and wild animals do best on a wide variety of plants to feed on. What you need to focus on is growing healthy soils by using ruminants to impact the soil heavily with long rest periods in between.
@Growmap
@Growmap 3 года назад
@@peterm.eggers520 Yes. Multi-species mob grazing works well, especially if you can leave each section fallow for 30+ days.
@daseishorn1863
@daseishorn1863 6 лет назад
The first argument could be seen a bit different. The Farmers fertilize their fields with minerals that the plant needs for growing, not necessarily for having a high nutrition density. So fertilizing can have the same effect as the high CO2 concentration.
6 лет назад
This IS the real answer.
@kindlin
@kindlin 6 лет назад
This is what I was thinking. Sure, we "fertilize" our fields, but with man-made concoctions that we show help size, growing time or resistance to various deleterious effects, that is to say, not nutrition content.
@ryan-jb9fh
@ryan-jb9fh 6 лет назад
if that were the case then the golden rod wouldn't have shown a decrease in protein, because we don't fertilize those.
@daseishorn1863
@daseishorn1863 6 лет назад
read again
@alpualyou
@alpualyou 6 лет назад
The soil the goldenrod was in was almost certainly very different in 2014 vs the ancient samples. In some parts of N. America, the topsoil could be 3 meters deep when settlers arrived. That does not exist today.
@Bajoli86
@Bajoli86 3 года назад
The single biggest reason: killing soil insects and worms causes less deep growth of plants, because they use the holes digged by worms. So pesticides, fungicides, large agriculture machines etc.
@BlakeEIves
@BlakeEIves 3 года назад
The place where we are losing nutrients are in our animal foods. The key place this loss is seen is in "amino acids". There are nine essential amino acids, and the primary, most reliable source for those essential amino acids is animal foods. This means that without those amino acids being obtained through food, our bodies cannot, and will not be able to obtain them or create them in any other way. If you look at the effects of what the essential amino acids do for the body, but then invert their effects, you will end up with a list of symptoms that you would find in "autoimmune diseases". Example: How many people below the age of thirty have arthritis (which is an autoimmune disease)? How many of those people also have another corresponding, more severe autoimmune disease? Arthritis is very common among people with other autoimmune diseases. Based on what I stated before, there must be an inverse to arthritis among the list of the essential amino acids. That answer is Methionine, the only sulfur based essential amino acid. And it specifically is used by the body for joint health, and for joint lubrication, among other uses. But you can probably notice that this should not seem to be a problem. But a few facts have not been stated yet. Did you know that amino acids are destroyed when they are frozen? Simply by freezing amino acids you nearly destroy all of their nutritional value. So here are the questions you should ask... When did the freezer become a common household appliance? Then compare that to when the term "autoimmune disease" was classified due to its increasingly noticeable presence. When did we start processing our milk, rather than delivering fresh, raw milk? And was there a noticeable increase in autoimmune disease cases, and types around that time? When did the farming industry start feeding chickens plant foods only instead of their natural diet of bugs? And was there a noticeable increase in autoimmune disease around that time? When a fad called "veganism" started becoming popular, was there a corresponding increase in autoimmune disease in children? If you do not ask the correct question, you will not find the needed answer. I just gave you the questions, will you accept the answers you find?
@MichaelWritesPoetry
@MichaelWritesPoetry 3 года назад
Vitamania was awesome, it confirmed many of my own misgivings about vitamins and nutrition. I am a former multivitamin taker. The only vitamins, I take regularly now are cod liver oil daily, and aReds (an eye vitamin recommended by opticians and Retinal Doctors). One of the things that always troubled me was how did they get everything in that tiny pill. Now I know, thanks.
@cincin4515
@cincin4515 Год назад
Yes. Vitamania. Exposing vitamin manufacturers as deadly and greedy as big pharmaceutical.
@maxmillion7007
@maxmillion7007 4 года назад
I read an article 20 or so years ago that claimed certain modern orange breeds have almost no vitamin c. That breeding for volume and sweetness has led to the need to ADD Vitamin C to the juice. If true, this is another farming practice that should be stopped. I have also wondered how "greenhouse grown" crops get the micro nutrients and minerals needed.
@markanderson3870
@markanderson3870 2 года назад
You don't have to worry about over-eating if you eat lots of fruits and vegetables, because all that soluble fibre will make you feel full. Just be careful about the carbs, especially refined carbs.
@Regonix
@Regonix 2 года назад
Meat > Milk products > Fruits > Vegetables > Grain > Sugar If expressed in percentages, perfect human diet should look like this: 45% of meat products, 25% of milk products, 15% of fruits, 10% of vegetables, 4.9% of grain products, 0.1% of sugar. Humans are not herbivores and not omnivores. Humans are carnivores with a very limited adaptation to being an omnivore. Anyone who disagree should try all-meat diet for a week and later eat only grass for a week, compare how they feel after each diet.
@Thezuule1
@Thezuule1 5 лет назад
So plants are growing larger, faster, but are not synthesizing vitamins or absorbing minerals faster. The nutrients in the plants are being stretched across more plant matter.
@GoalOrientedLifting
@GoalOrientedLifting 5 лет назад
Which sounds kinda stupid. Because people today, on average, are taller today than before. And its because there are more nutrients and calories in our diets, not less. So i dont see how this is backwards for plants. Plants even get nutrient deficient diseases or signs if something is lacking
@TheScienceBiome
@TheScienceBiome 6 лет назад
Two veritasium videos in a week! *Lettuce* celebrate.
@confrontationable
@confrontationable 3 года назад
Another theory to this decrease in nutrients and more specifically protein is that the pesticides used by the farming industry, with the main ingredient being Glyphosate, are destroying what's known as the shikimate pathway. The Shikimate Pathway is a process in which plants, bacteria, and fungi synthesize the 9 essential Amino acids using enzymes. These amino acids are used to build a large majority of the proteins humans need and they cant be synthesized in animal cells. It's estimated that around 4.5 billion pounds of Glyphosate are sold worldwide each year causing around 75% of the air and water to be contaminated. If you want more specifics watch the After Skool video "Chemical Farming & The Loss Of Human Health." They have sources/studies for the information provided. I am not an expert in any way I'm just sharing information thanks for reading.
@inveele
@inveele 2 года назад
Yes. Soil is being depleted of its minerals by big ag. You can immediately tell when you eat produce grown elsewhere (Europe for example).
@miscellaneousstuff8362
@miscellaneousstuff8362 6 лет назад
in my part of the world in past centuries people had more appetites than dinners, now we have more dinners than appetites and so we don't have to worry about feeding hungry population anymore, instead we have to worry about the quality of our dinners. Good video. Thanks.
@sir_john_hammond
@sir_john_hammond 6 лет назад
Not even past centuries. The 1900s were just the same.
@BigPatViggen
@BigPatViggen 6 лет назад
"We don't have to worry about feeding hungry population anymore..." Perhaps were you live. But worldwide, there are still a lot of people that go hungry everyday.
@iau
@iau 6 лет назад
795 million people or 12.9% of the worldwide population is starving. "We don't have to worry about feeding hungry population anymore". Just wow, way to be totally ignorant.
@dropmelon
@dropmelon 6 лет назад
+Patrick Deschênes +iau They already say "in my part of the world" so can you guys stop trying to find fault by taking a sentence out of context.
@Unmannedair
@Unmannedair 6 лет назад
@@iau that problem isn't because of a lack of food... That problem is entirely socio-political in nature. Way to have a big mouth and demonstrate your ability to extrapolate someone's thoughts.
@etmax1
@etmax1 6 лет назад
Another thing that could be impacting our food specifically is that we look after what the plant needs in great detail but probably don't look at the minerals etc. that a plant draws from the soil and may not need itself, but benefits us. I watched Catalyst last week and they were showing hydroponic farming specifically tomatoes and I don't eat supermarket tomatoes any more because they taste terrible. The flavour is one dimensional and the hearts are almost woody. The exception is a relative grows tomatoes in her garden and they taste spectacular, so it's not CO2 because hers breathe the same atmosphere. Same with bananas, they have no flavour and yet they are a hybrid and so should be consistent over time. CO2 BTW is definitely a factor in some food changes, Yams in Africa now produce dangerous levels of cyanide and Apricots are increasing their cyanide levels. They also reckon that by 2050 you won't be able to make traditional bread without additives because of low protein levels. Loved Vitamania BTW.
@CourtneySchwartz
@CourtneySchwartz 2 года назад
Soil depletion IS a serious issue. Fertilizing with N, P, K does not restore lost Fe or Mg. It does not restore beneficial symbiotes like mycorrhizae that are lost during fungicide/pesticide/tilling, and normally help plants uptake those nutrients. The CO2 aspect is interesting, but much complexity has been glossed over.
@therealshard
@therealshard 3 года назад
When Derek said "Hey" at 6:56 i immediately expected a "Vsauce, Michael here" to follow.
@JarrodBaniqued
@JarrodBaniqued 6 лет назад
I got a McDonald’s ad before this played. How appropriate.
@ahmedshinwari
@ahmedshinwari 6 лет назад
Have you heard of AdBlock plugin for browser?
@JarrodBaniqued
@JarrodBaniqued 6 лет назад
ahmedshinwari I have. Unfortunately, I’m viewing this on the RU-vid app on my iPhone.
@mediumstudio
@mediumstudio 5 лет назад
Seems like food is being grown for size & taste not nutrition - remember: "Nutritious Before Delicious"
@tjw2469
@tjw2469 5 лет назад
usually the case is nutritious food taste delicious
@Thezuule1
@Thezuule1 5 лет назад
As he pointed out in the video though it appears even wild plants are exhibiting the same problem.
@bobf5360
@bobf5360 5 лет назад
@@tjw2469 but the reverse is more true: delicious food is not nutritious. Sweets, chocolate, salty foods, fried foods, and the like are generally not great for us. Some will argue that each contains some nutrient, but on the whole they are less nutritious than leafy greens, raw fruits, legumes, and unsalted nuts.
@tjw2469
@tjw2469 5 лет назад
Bob Fischer the "food" I'm referring is naturally grown fruit, vegetable, meat etc. The food in its original state. For instance, if one apple is tastier than the other, usually it is the indication of a more nutritious apple. Sorry I didn't make it clear.
@korsveien
@korsveien 5 лет назад
It need to grow fast and look good. Fast growing makes more money.
@lore_1984
@lore_1984 2 года назад
I don't know if this issue has been addressed in the 4k comments but, has anyone mentioned the microbiome of the soil? There is an entire ecosystem of microorganisms that work together in soil to bring nutrients to plants. The research I've seen suggests that modern farming practices, such as tilling, disturbs this ecosystem which makes it harder for the plants to get the nutrients they need.
@petersmythe6462
@petersmythe6462 3 года назад
Goldenrod "untouched by selective breeding?" I somewhat disagree. It's untouched by human agriculture but bees absolutely do have preferences about which flowers they visit. Over millions of years, this selective pollination will breed flowers which are more desirable to bees.
@aperson1
@aperson1 3 года назад
Well, of course it's not going to stay unchanged - that's just how evolution and natural selection works. The point here is not to pick a plant that remained totally the same for millions of years, but one we haven't put effort into changing in the last ~200 years we researched it for. Natural selection certainly took place here, but without a hand intentionally guiding it in a new direction, 200 years is hardly much time for even a plant to change on its own.
@slozenger9000
@slozenger9000 3 года назад
Selective Breeding is specifically a human action. Bee's are causing Natural Selection.
@petersmythe6462
@petersmythe6462 3 года назад
@@slozenger9000 I would argue bee pollination is closer to early agricultural methods than it is to selection by a predator or prey or constraints of a normal environment, as there is direct control of one organisms' breeding by the psychological preferences of another organism. The bees intentionally pick which flowers to pollinate based on preferences related to the phenotype of the flowers. In effect the flower's ability to breed is entirely based on it's appeal to another species. If we ask who controls the evolution of who, the bee completely controls the evolution of the flower, deciding which new phenotypes live or die and therefore which new genotypes live or die purely off the whims of bee pollination preferences. One could argue the flower has been accidentally domesticated by insects. This isn't that dissimilar to agriculture before writing or longterm recordkeeping. Keeping long records helps, but that's not how early domestication occurred. Early agriculture was based on planting seeds from those that seemed to be better according to human planting preferences, likely at first unconsciously and then later based on phenotype alone. Only much later would concepts of hidden genes influencing the phenotype develop. The only difference here is that bees only control the breeding, whilst humans control the seed planting, but often do not control breeding. A task left to the bees.
@slozenger9000
@slozenger9000 3 года назад
@@petersmythe6462 I am not going to read through all your comment. Words have definition. You deciding to not follow that is not my problem.
@petersmythe6462
@petersmythe6462 3 года назад
@@slozenger9000 Selective breeding, Merriam Webster: "the process of modifying the characteristics of living things especially to enhance one or more desirable traits by selection in breeding controlled by humans" Which of you remove the "especially" part, is just "the process of modifying the characteristics of living things." Do you have a good reason to argue that anything outside specifically the genus Homo cannot selectively breed things or is your point simply argumentum ad dictionarium? For example, if a descendent of Orangutans were to begin creating it's own agriculture, with advanced recordkeeping based on estimating the genotype and full control over both planting and pollination would this be selective breeding or would they still not be humans and therefore it not be selective breeding but mere natural selection?
@GG-sw4ws
@GG-sw4ws 6 лет назад
The plants need BRAWNDO THE THURST MUTILATOR!! Brawndo makes plants grow!
@RedLeader327
@RedLeader327 6 лет назад
Lrrr Ruler of Omicron Persei 8 It’s got electrolytes!
@doctorwho0w314
@doctorwho0w314 6 лет назад
it's what plants crave
@crimsonhalo13
@crimsonhalo13 6 лет назад
Quick, someone get ahold of Donald Trump on Twitter. He'll fund this campaign and make plants great again!
@Kraigon42
@Kraigon42 5 лет назад
+1 for the Idiocracy reference.
@Electricmaniacforever
@Electricmaniacforever 5 лет назад
Needed that comment... hahaha
@willieclark2256
@willieclark2256 5 лет назад
NPK fertilizer is NOT all the nutrients a plant needs. That's not enough for you to blow past the idea of soil depletion. The nature of fertilizer changed dramatically since the 1940s. The value of this video is seriously hindered by your lack of research into this aspect
@ethank.6602
@ethank.6602 5 лет назад
This isnt about nutrients its about climate change
@willieclark2256
@willieclark2256 5 лет назад
@@ethank.6602 you're right his narrative is about climate change. The title of the video is about nutrition. This narrative he constructed reaks of established ideas about agriculture and its effects on climate, and health. Holistic Management by Allan Savory and literally anything by Dr Elaime Ingham would be a much more relevant, honest, approach to the subject.
@willieclark2256
@willieclark2256 5 лет назад
Oh oh and Sir Albert Howard!!!
@willieclark2256
@willieclark2256 5 лет назад
Restoration Agriculture by Mark Shepard... I could keep going. I wonder what his sources were to make those claims about soil depletion
@Arielelian
@Arielelian 3 года назад
In summary, the nutritional content isn't scaling with the size growth. While food has become larger, the nutritional content has remained the same and the larger size is mostly just fluff (i.e. carbs). Like getting two bags of potato chips with same amount of chips, but one of the bags is larger and filled with more air.
@Pakistan-Icecream
@Pakistan-Icecream 2 года назад
This is reason why people take daily magnesium supplements preferably with their vitamin D3 & K2 supplements.
@DanHauer
@DanHauer 6 лет назад
Constructive criticism: from 0:17 on, the music is too loud, and the style of it is distracting.
@psyysp171
@psyysp171 6 лет назад
Yes. I actually thought something else was playing in the background because it was so distracting.
@jerkerbergstrom6663
@jerkerbergstrom6663 6 лет назад
This
@eduardomoralesmendoza9322
@eduardomoralesmendoza9322 6 лет назад
Should be lower, but I'm not a native speaker and I could watch the whole without noticing because his voice goes smooth with the video.
@valdemar-q7n
@valdemar-q7n 6 лет назад
I disagree. I understand thar you find it distracting. But for me it is not distracting at all. I think the music made it a lot more dramatic.
@dustinwrye
@dustinwrye 6 лет назад
I didn't even notice any music in the video.
@Wegnerrobert2
@Wegnerrobert2 6 лет назад
There is a pretty big question left u clear here: The nutrition per gram is decreasing but what about the nutrition per square metre of land? per litre of water? per month of growth? The plants grow differently now so these values might very well change in different ways. You said the plants are bigger now, which could cancel out the decrease in nutritional density when considering the yield of an acre of land?
@udishomer5852
@udishomer5852 3 года назад
This doesn't change the fact that you (the plant eater) get less nutrition per 100g of fruit/vegetable/leaves. Of course you can eat more, but that would mean more calories which leads to obesity. So the only solutions I see are: 1. Buy from producers that use whole fertilizers (compost, humus, kelp, rock dust, etc) 2. Grow your own fruit/vegetable 3. Take food supplements
@omarct
@omarct 3 года назад
@@udishomer5852 Or eat some meat.
@masterofreality926
@masterofreality926 2 года назад
@@udishomer5852 Or eat less of those toxic greens full of pesticides and start eating animals finally. Cannot be nutrient deficient when consuming animal whole.
@dudewaldo4
@dudewaldo4 2 года назад
I wish I wasn't developing the opinion that Veritasium serves as a corporate mouthpiece
@Pakistan-Icecream
@Pakistan-Icecream 2 года назад
Good people worry about global hunger, evil people worry about global warming. Spread!
@RayMak
@RayMak 5 лет назад
Really unpredictable. Really amazing information
@RayMak
@RayMak 5 лет назад
@@sekharbabu6064 hiiii
@RayMak
@RayMak 5 лет назад
@@sekharbabu6064 thank you so much. Great to see you here too
@La-Illaha-Illa-Allah
@La-Illaha-Illa-Allah 3 года назад
I will break the devil curse. the 70th is comin
@mazedude5911
@mazedude5911 3 года назад
Same
@ranmindyt2902
@ranmindyt2902 3 года назад
Indeed ray mak, indeed.
@mike_skinner
@mike_skinner 4 года назад
This might help someone. I noticed that certain vegetables round here looked a bit odd. I googled it and found that they had a boron deficiency. I ordered a pack of boron from Boron in the US. After a short while my teeth lost their sensitivity to cold and my muscles stopped aching and an injury to my ankle that I twisted 50 years ago has healed. I can run now and no pain. You have to take the right amount as I tried taking a bigger dose and I was paralyzed for a day as it sorts where the calcium and magnesium go in the body via the parathyroid.
@leon-np2xo
@leon-np2xo 2 года назад
Something tells me losing the sensitivity in your teeth isnt a good thing :|
@donovanmahan2901
@donovanmahan2901 2 года назад
@@leon-np2xo as in being able to bite something cold, not bury your teeth in it for a long time.
@sorchaOtwo
@sorchaOtwo 3 года назад
The structure of the soil is as important as what it contains, and chemical fertilizers don't improve the soil. The point could be made, of chemical fertilizers, that we are just giving our crops "vitamins" which is not all they need.
@veramae4098
@veramae4098 3 года назад
I inherited the family farm. My neighbor rents the land. He checks and spreads lime, other resources when tests show they're needed. Keeps cows for milk, cow manure is spread on the fields, rotates his crops, etc. He's talked about people who want him to rent their land to him, but it's exhausted, "mined out," he calls it. Told one person he'd have to work their field for about 5 years, working on the soil quality, before it would be useful for crops. In other words, THEY should pay HIM. Land owner was not happy.
@ikanberapi2189
@ikanberapi2189 2 года назад
volcanic country: "uhhh, mountain soil"
@BruhMomentum7
@BruhMomentum7 6 лет назад
He pronounces produce ‘prahduce’
@mcmire
@mcmire 6 лет назад
Well, he also said 'soory'.
@jc2fly
@jc2fly 6 лет назад
Typical Canadian pronunciation
@hijack69
@hijack69 6 лет назад
What aboot it?
@royronson8872
@royronson8872 6 лет назад
he was wearing prada
@coltond6921
@coltond6921 6 лет назад
Well do you say pro-duction or Pra-duction?
@b-b8704
@b-b8704 5 лет назад
Fun fact: most civilizations collapse due to agriculture. Solution: permaculture systems and small gardens. POWER TO THE PEOPLE.
@voidremoved
@voidremoved 5 лет назад
I tried this and the cops made my life hell now im crippled but still wont give up
@b-b8704
@b-b8704 5 лет назад
@Wupash I hear this all the time, but people love congregating. You will always be able to avoid big cities, so many dumb people to fill them. And the more people the more they gather
@b-b8704
@b-b8704 5 лет назад
@@voidremoved keep on keepn' on! Fight the good fight and be you :)
@psychoedge
@psychoedge 3 года назад
Fun fact: civilization itself began due to agriculture that allowed settling. Also permaculture can (and definitely should) be used on an industrial scale to both supply enough food for a growing world population while not putting stress on the planet's ecosystems. Best of both worlds is possible, change the system, don't overthrow it.
@b-b8704
@b-b8704 3 года назад
@@psychoedge permaculture cant be done on an industrial scale, you might be thinking organic? On a large scale the best option (i can think of off the top of my head) would be national parks integrated permaculture principles. Food Forrest integrated into national/state parks would be HUGE.
@woocheongan1437
@woocheongan1437 2 года назад
Industrial agriculture can increase the supply of food, but it also seems to be a fact that the nutritional value of food has plummeted. People are now pursuing more and more health. It is necessary to consume sufficient nutrition every day. Healthy body.
@techwithdipufrom0ton621
@techwithdipufrom0ton621 2 года назад
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