We are comparing Porsche's "No Restriction" endurance car the 919 EVO vs the fastest car in F1 History Mercedes W11 and 2023's fastest car RB19 around Belgium's Spa-Francorchamps Subscribe! @formulaaddict
BTW the 919 EVO is an unrestricted version of LMP cars meaning it is much faster than the actual LMP cars they use during races. Still very impressive nonetheless, and makes me wonder what unrestricted F1 cars can do.
you really think a fighter jet generates the same forces as that thing does. Even the designer said it wouldnt be possible for someone to drive it on the limit for more than a lap @@whatthafuckisthis
theres design concepts over twitter of how f1 cars would like if unrestricted and its super fascinating stuff, the same aero concept as the LMPs worth a look
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That's what (4 cylinder ) 1200 hp AWD engine does with unrestricted fuelflow and enough electric boost to send you from 200-300 kph in 2 sec. That car has a tiny nuclear reactor on it's back.
@@davidspagnolo4870Fuel flow rate and boost limits gone Bigger wings and active (on demand) aero Active suspension, traction control and ABS now allowed Those things would be absolute monsters, although they would probably make for awful racing.
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For Spa in 2020 the W11 also ran an extremely high downforce set up in anticipation of wet condition, so the top speed difference is going to be a little skewed.
What an amazing analysis and graphical portrayal of these lap times. Thank you for your hard work correlating this and sharing it with us all. Much appreciated.
idk if i'm wrong but i believe the 919 messed up in 0:57 because he might have taken the turn too tight and had to go into the out side and in turn losing time, if im right than that small mess up could have been the difference between the times with the w11 also it funny how irrelivent the RB19 despite how dominant it is now
I might be wrong (probably am) but wasn't the W11 in a less than optimum setup (high downforce) for a dry Qualy due to rain expectation? Regardless for me the engineering excellence goes to the W11 to beat an unrestricted arguably superior platform (enclosed wheels etc) is impressive.
but also the drivers as well I would imagine - I presume Hamilton would be a better driver than the Porsche driver. Ham gapped Bottas by over half a second on this run - so if this was compared to Bottas' run - it would be faster.
@@pietervanbreda4360W11 was faster than the RB19 but all the cars in 2020 were faster even the RB16 was faster than the RB19 so lewis had more comparative competition vs the field than Max does this year where none of the cars are even close to the RB19. stop being silly and learn about F1 history
Amazing that other cars of the current season are being termed as F2 in comparison to the RB19, here's the W11 that makes the RB19 look like an F2 car. What a monster!
le chrono pris pour la redbull c'est la pole fait sur piste humide après une grosse averse en début de qualifs...vraiment pas comparable avec le potentiel de la voiture après un weekend sec.
Just checked. This was Max’s Q3 time on a dry track. By comparison, the sprint qualifying he was 3 seconds slower than this. Don’t forget the above aero F1 cars had been developed for decades. These ground effect cars are still early in their development. By 2025, I imagine they’d be near the W11 time or even quicker.
I’m surprised at how much the EVO kept up through Eau Rouge 0.5 of a second, that’s either one hell of a Porsche or F1 isn’t the pinnacle anymore, considering the W11 is the peak of F1 development
I think it’s mainly that the porsche was made with no rules, just to scrape every tenth available, while f1 cars have got a lot of restrictions on them. I wonder how a no rules f1 car would be like too.
Its so cool to be able to see the visual comparison of the different cars. amazing work. Is the data that you use to construct these graphics publically available or can it be purchased? Can you share the source?
the thing most people don't understand, is that the 919 Evo isn't a car made from the ground up, it's simply an OPTIMIZATION (probably the best they could make out of that 2014 project) for a hotlap of the 919 Hybrid, a car that HAS BEEN MADE for run 24h without a break. The powertrain is actually the same of the Le Mans car, just without fuel restrictions and without the electric motor and total emergy per-lap limit. The main aero parts have been optimised, bigger wing (that also has DRS, prohibited in LMP1 regulations), splitter, diffuser, and side skirts. Weight has been reduced too, by approx 25kg over the omologated car, by removing headlights, air conditioning, etc. But still, this so impressive cause it's an actual LMP1, but OPTIMISED for a hot lap! It would be the same thing if you made the W11 run in the 24h of le mans, WITHOUT changing its parts, but simply by optimising those, and you obtain a car that's actually as fast as LMP1s, it would be a very, VERY hard task. Useless to say, both are some of the best pieces of machinery ever made, and will be always remembered
Mercedes fans just don’t understand how cars are built. It’s as simple as that, they believe that they are the best car builder because of the W11 yet they fail to understand that Porsche pretty much wiped the floor with anyone who challenges them
@@joshjackburnsLmao Is that why Porsche got humiliated in f1 and left meanwhile mercedes dominated and is that why even a FULLY REGULATED merc f1 car can decimate an UNREGULATED NO RULES Porsche 🤡🤡🤣🤣🤣
It is insane that the Porsche was able to be way faster than the Red Bull being a Prototype, also, even if it lost against the W11, it's performance on track is still impressive
It is not because F1 cars have to follow a series of rules, even more now that they say they are trying to save fuel consumption. Now they ran with turbo charged v6, the v12 amd v10 of the past had a lot more top speed for instance. It is not that the F1 cars are trying to be the fastest car possible, only the fastest car possible according the rules they have.
Why speak of a prototype like it's inferior? It's more aero effiecent. It lost to the w11 do to the fact the track was not rubbered like unlike the w11 lap. So way less grip. And the drivers themselves said they are the limit.
@@mgammeren Of course I already know it was unrestricted. You're stating obvious things. Spa is a medium downforce track your never know. And again you didn't answer my other points.
Hello Formula Addict. I really liked how you presented this video. I am curious, what use of reference did you use for the 919 Hybrid EVO? If I recall, Porsche have not released the onboard for that lap (the one with 1:41.770) unless I am mistaken, thank you very much!
@@juzh1238 You comparison video between the two shows clearly the w11 ahead after turn 5. I'm beginning to doubt the authenticity of formula addict's beautifully animated 3d renderings.
@@Bahamuttiamat Either Formula Addict has access to inside telemetry that we don't have (which is unlikely), or they use track visual references purely from F1TV onboard like everyone else on youtube does, and if that's the case, certain amount of inaccuracies can't be avoided due to F1TV onboard having glitches all the time.
@@PregnantSausageHow? He was beaten by Rosberg, even had the better car against Verstappen in 2021, who missed out 2 races of 25 points entirely (because of Merecedes' - but I won't go into that war). Yet, Hamilton still needed the last race at Abu Dhabi to win the title. Think! Max lost out on 50 entire points for nothing. Lewis finishing 2 more races than Max could only match the exact same points as Max. How is that making Max look slow?
I miss Mercedes (W11/12) and Ferrari (F1-75) being able to challenge Red Bull. At least it made the races thrilling and not just a battle for P2 and P3 lol
The W11 was built on the pure dark arts of aerodynamics to a point that the people that built it have forgetten how to .... 6 seconds over the RB19 is hard to even comprehend
They're probably only good at making car without ground effect. After all, F1 hasn't allowed ground effect for around 4 decades. RB had Adrian Newey, who had experience building ground effect cars. Which gives redbull some advantage. Not denying Newey brain of course.
You can bet a major part of the gap is down to Sir Lewis Carl Davidson Hamilton behind the wheel of the W11. He was actually 0.511 s faster than Valtteri that day.
Sir Lewi sHamilton is a beast. Not everyone realises this, and it makes me sad. If he really wanted that championship, he would get it. No matter the rival's car or anything else.
Fun fact : Red Bull has found out in 2010 that the main limiting factor in an unrestricted Formula 1 type car isn't the technology, but the human factor. There's only so much consistent and continuous G-Force the human body can take. Look up the X-2010 design and all the reports and findings about the design. It was never built but there would be no point to a car no one could drive 100%.
Damn. Now I'm wondering what would've happened had they not changed the layout since 2004, as I still think the f2004 would've had the lap record around here... even without slick tires! Speaking of which, Ralph did a few laps on slick tires in a 2003 williams - ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-RROmKNSLr2s.html Despite the fact that he and the car were twenty years older, and on tires that weren't meant for the car, AND the engine was tuned down, he still came pretty damn close to the lap record... Well, not the 2021 lap record, but the 22 one.
it really depends on the track, in this video they take spa wich is way better for fast straight line car, like the 919 evo, take the prosche on the hungaoring and it will be smashed even by the rb19. On specifical track were top speed matter like monza, spa, 24h of lemans, F1 lasvegas or the nurburgring (in the nurburgring there are also some corner but there is a 1km and a 2km straight line) but for most of the circuit around the globe, the f1 will be better that's why it is the pinnacle of motorsport (with rally).
This isn't really an LMP car, as it was rebuilt without adhereing to the LMP regulations. So it's lightter in weight, has more aero, more fuel injection, more hp and etc etc.. Imagine an F1 car with no fuel injection limit.
The only comparison we can make is in SPA where the 919 EVO ran a time of 1:41.7 and the W11 ran a time of 1:41.25. It's very close but you have to consider that the 919 EVO is a Porsche 'skunkworks' project completely de restricted where as the W11 is FIA regulation compliant.
You do know it's more performance you can get out the lmp 1 than a f1 car right.A f1 car is not going to go no faster than a so called unrestricted f1 car.A f1 car is already at a disadvantage cause it's a open wheel car. It's not much more you can do with a f1 car.And if you do so called unrestrict a f1 car it will look like a lmp car.The driver of the 919 said himself that he was at his limit not the car.But you know what make this bad for f1 fans.They could of used pre 2015 lmp cars that was pushing 1000 hp and was a little lighter and gave them more aerodynamics.See the 919 evo is based off a restricted 919 lmp.But you f1 fans don't know that.They don't call lmp 1"labatories on wheels" for nothing.
The version made according to the regulations became the champion by almost destroying Toyota in 2017, while the Hybrid Evo is its modified version. So it's not completely unregulated.
@@Jesko. I mean it has to be exempt from certain things in order for this video to be made, but it's basically still an LMP car and not produced completely without regulation.
They added a double DRS, that's front and rear DRS. Larger wings and added fixed-ride side skirts, removed aircon, removed jack, and other systems (e.g. lights), removed fuel flow limit and increased electric motor output. And specially made Michelin tyres to go for it. That's crazy.
@@Jesko. I agree at all if Porsche gives this car a soft compound tyre like the C5 in Formula 1 and drives it by Lewis Hamilton or Max Verstappen. It would break the current lap record.
It would be great to see both categories race against eachother, even with adaptations. LMP could pass on the straights, F1 could outbrake before corners. Several occasions each lap. Would make great racing!
Nice videos, I was wondering if it's possible to display time/distance intervals instead of the cronometer (which is only useful at the end to compare times).
By the end of La Source corner I completely forgot a third car was there🤣🤣 2020 will forever be known as the greatest F1 spec era and cars won't ever go close to that fast and if they manage to do it, remember that the W11 never reached it's full potential with Merc stopping the upgrades mid way through the season
To be fair, the Porsche set its lap time on a completely green track. That would be even worst than asking the W11 to set a track record during practice 1. We all know that a track ramps up faster throughout the weekend, and especially during qualifying when cars put down a lot of fresh rubber in the braking zones and apexes. Had the 919 Evo done its lap during the same qualifying session, it might have set a lap 1.5s faster, meanwhile had the W11 tried to set its lap time at the same green track, it would have gone 2s slower probably.
Thw w11 would be faster again . If I’m not mistaken setup wisely that weekend they had rain in the forecast (it never rained btw) .the w11 had a bigger rear wing so the car wasn’t on its perfect setup but you have a point and to some extent i can agree whit you
@DonLee1980 Don't you tire of spouting such fallacies? If the w11 was allowed to use active aero and drs outside of drs zones it would've been much faster through blanchimont and kemmel.
Im not F1 fan, but i hear that W11 is one of the finest or quickest EVER, so if this is the case, Porsche has made an Absolute beast to keep track right behind it, yeah yeah i know that this is an unrestricted prototype, but the W11 is the summit of the F1 as i hear...the F1 has a lot of weight advantage just for their raw nature
@@kikoelargento9905 thats the only track that matters. its fast, it has incredible incredible corners, it has the most amazng race and everyone can drive there if they want to.
I think you should put in a f2004 and a 2018 mercedes instead of the f1 cars you chose as the claim was made in 2018 so id like to see if the claim they made was right at the time
@@bobsquashv2742 How can you say that when the rb18 (last years car) was 2.4 seconds off the w11 around Spa and we all know that the rb19 is faster than the rb18. So what the other guy said is a closer estimation if it was dry conditions.
@@bobsquashv2742 as I said, the track wasn't 100% dry, so ALL of the cars went slower, that's why it isn't representative compared to other years, I took the laps from Britain, Hungary and Austria, both having around a 1.7-1.9s difference in favor of the W11, unless my maths are wrong but that isn't the point
"Lewis 7WDC GOAT wasn't even trying all those years!!! He was just sleeping and still got 7 titles clearly he is number one all skill because he beat his teammate in the same machinery like 9 times!!!" -Merc fan justifying
@@Cal3000 But what does that prove? I get you are trying to say he wins against the compeition, but it also literally means Max has NO COMPEITION. That's how good someone can be - to have nobody else who could beat you. I won't say Lewis is a bad driver. He is a good one, but the numbers (after years of great luck moving to the right team, and having some FIA help, to get those other 5 WDCs) are greatly overinflated.
It was in damp conditions, rb18 did 1.43.6 an I think if it was dry the Rb19 would've made into the 1.42s, it's still not as fast as w11 but the time would've been less than 2 sec
What you also have to remember is that the W11 was driven by HAM who drove it every weekend and dialled it in over a season, that 911 was awfully close to the fastest racecar ever made
Someone said that the Valkyrie AMR pro would be close to the Evo in terms of laptimes. Which is nuts that normal people could own that. Very wealthy nornal people
