@@hugohc8580 if you pay attention, raiden was doing 250k per each combo (1 normal + 2 CA slashes + 1 E). she can do it 6 times after the nuke, so like 6*250k approximately. the nuke is generally just 35% of her total damage.
IMO the pre rotation of the 3 teammates should also include into the total time comparison, because without them it should take way longer to defeat any boss.
Raiden wins thanks to sara, she gives 60 crit dmg and atk buff and bennett also raiden is a nuker who have to have her burst and clorinde doesn't need her burst, when we get an electro support we will see
@@razorbladegaming4601Also she is using haran and we don't know what set she uses, but i can tell this guy have shogun with bis set and weapon, so its not fair 🤷
@@ЖеняМаксимов-ы7ь still clorinde doesn't need her burst to do the dmg and can do more dmg in a long term she doesn't have her bis weapon and surely she doesn't have her set she doesn't have her bis team and still closer to raiden... So keep crying its hot outside
Yeah and clorinde aggrevate gets a ton of elemental reaction damage half of it comes from Nahida. Where raiden doesn't have any elemental reaction damage. So what's your point.
Could you actually try the hypercarry team of Raiden as well with Clorinde, to see how she fit in that kind of team. And it could be a better team comparison against Raiden weekly boss because of the same teammates.
That's only going to make her slower. Also there's a cap in the damage increase she gets from attack so Bennett isn't needed. She wants reactions just like neuvilette
@@VM_Berna27 Sara needs WAY too much ER without Shogun unfortunately. Like over 250%, wouldnt hurt to have even more (unless you E + charged shot evert rotation for particles)
Raiden is a nuke dps, she does big damages per one rotation. Clorinde on the other hand is a singular dps, doing smaller damages but quickly and consecutively.
His Raiden dealt crazy high damage in one of his previous videos so some people suspect that Raiden might be at C2. Kinda sus that after people pointed it out, his Raiden deals less damage all of a sudden 😂
@@rekt6641it’s the truth tho? Not only in evidence but in versatility 😅 it’s almost no competition. Now is she better than keqing? She maybe win that argument 😅
Even if raiden will be not best in terms of big pp damage, that doesn't mean what she is worst in everything else, she one of the best character in game cuz of her skill, team comp, value for your account
I mean we don't know if that shogun has Cons, or how better or worse are the artifacts so its not a comparison, more like a showcase 🤔 but that's okay cause we need 2 teams at least for abyss so it doesn't matter
@@ahmedashraf6026yes she can the raiden shogun boss once she goes in the state on screen her resistances go down. He made a video with c2 vs this boss and did 700k
u get bond of life once u ult at the start so u can use ur elemental skill that pierces through enemies idk what its called that consumes bond of life and deals more dmg in that instance, so its more dps per rotation that way
@@kawaaiiii how is better to do 3 normals before skill and deal like idk 30 40k dmg when u can do a 100k with ur ult and still have ur skill to add onto that what -_- 3 Na WOULD TAKE AROUND 1.5 SECS anyways just wait another second for almost 200 % + more dmg with ur ult? some of yall really confuse me cuz of how confidently yall say the dumbest shit its fascinating
@@kawaaiiii mf it isnt better to not ult, the ults entire purpose is to give u more dps what hypothesis are u talking abt what u get free bond of life, around 100-150k front loaded dmg - maybe 30- 40k dmg from impale cuz of the free bond of life, and u have ur entire skill left where as if u dont ult u save 2 secs and lose out on that first frontloaded dmg and free impale thats like almost 200k decrease in dmg with aggravate how is it better to not ult what ? idk wtf ur on but cut it out its clearly affecting u
@@aarizalia7939you must be dumb because if you go look on his channel he has videos of c2 raiden She does 700k vs raiden boss in her down state. Normally c0 raiden won’t hit this hard but once the shogun boss goes in her down state her resistances go down like the scara boss.
@@aarizalia7939 lol u the dum one aint no way a c2 raiden hit 500k on a resistance downed boss with hyper carry supports should have been way more than that
Raiden Shogun is already too strong to begin with, especially at C2. Up to These days, she still melts almost everything in spiral abyss even though she's from version 2.xx and she can fit in too almost any team comps since she is both an off field support and hyper carry, So I don't think it is necessary to make a character that power creep her especially since she's an archon.
@@Giogio2020jobroI actually do that as i am still confused about what to do with clorinde's team lol. Clorinde, Raiden, Xiangling, Bennett. I still need to build clorinde tho. I haven't prefarming for her. I want to use Chevreuse but fate isn't too fond of giving me one.😂
@@Scatterblades lol I also want to use cheveruse but don’t have her, tho I heard Bennett isn’t too good for chlorinde since well chlorinde’s skill will make it hard to stay in the circle but other than that you’re team sounds good
@@edelweis303 her being an archon makes sense they wouldn't powercreep her. but being too powerful isn't really the reason. so was hutao who got powercrept by arlecchino. uses an older hutao team, still does more damage than her premium plunge team. i just find it weird that after neuv, arlecchino, lyney, navia, and furina they actually released something balanced lol.
well yeah raiden is significantly better than her in terms of sheer pull value just cuz of her off er regen, off field electro etc etc WHILE dishing out higher dps than a character whos sole purpose is to dish out big numbers so yeah, archon for a reason
@@teopatriarca2437 Raiden National is better in ST, Hypercarry is better in AoE. Also, I did mention *for Raiden’s personal damage (her being the dps). In Rational, she’s more of a driver/battery/subdps hybrid. That comp’s majority damage comes from XL’s pyronado vapes.
É por mais um vídeo envolvendo a arconte mais famosa do jogo que mostra que a Raiden continua em pauta até os dias de hoje, toda hora tem alguém falando da Raiden, e sempre estão tentando diminuir ela a qualquer custo.
Build da clorinde tava muito errado, certeza ele fez a comparação com build da Raiden, pq clorinde tava só com 1722 de ataque e 120% de taxa, a build dela n está certo
That's explain your hate. Clorande is a u know multiple hit character. And very fast if you do everything correct shr so more damage (if fully built) 70-60 cit rate paired with 200+ crit damage. And when doing that we want atk. Good rolls only once in a hundred
@@sanjisan1405another cyno heater… go play neuvillette and arlec meta man… let your super high investment yelan and hutao be taking dust forever…( genshin just did that )
@@sekaiomiruhitokaminoyume5426 mf i have a triple crowned cyno since he first got released what are u even saying super high investment yelan hutao my yelan is on a fucking favonious bow with a 180 er and she still is doing fine what yelan doesnt need to be super highinvestment nor does hu tao what
@@sekaiomiruhitokaminoyume5426 also " highinvestment characters be taking dust " what does that even mean those are just random words they have no meaning what, cyno's dps is not comparable to other electro units and he overall is not as good u dont need to be a hater to know that stop projecting shit u just asssumed a million different things just cuz i said she performs better than cyno which she does its a fact im not even hating " oo go play meta units " ur literally coping to urself saying " oo u play meta units i dont so cyno is good" i play characters that make my life easier to progress through the game that dont mean i play meta characters only i play fucking mono geo teams ffs "cyno heater" u talked abt comparing clorinde with cyno i gave u the result and cyno lost so im a hater ? jesus christ get a life
Getting her full damage potential (pretty crack) would need a good off field applicator like Nahida. She's kinda 'okay' for solo and F2P friendly, so it's up to you if you like her moves and playstyle.
for me she was, probably the most fun character i have used in a while, i tried a couple of f2p builds with dmc and sucrose and she is pretty good in that regards too i mean not crazy good f2p unit but good enough to clear content in this game like abyss and stuff so i'd say yes she is worth it or atleast for me she was
I tbh enjoyed her playstyle alot if you can max her f2p dmg with really good artifacts she can deal 500k per rotation also if you have Nahida only then so tbh if you like her gameplay pull for her if you want her for meta then no
i mean, raiden supposed to be support. even if she is lose to clorinde in dmg, raiden still exceed in everything else. but the reality, clorinde is the one that lose. she is supposed to be dps and still lost to support, isnt that sad ??
Let me explain, Clorinde clearly outclass raiden in terms of dmg at c0...And raiden is not a support...only enegry regeneration does not make her a support,she is a proper sub dps and ironically c6 fischl clearly outclass raiden in sub dps ...so what I want to say is that raiden can do so many things but not the best in that particular role...she is like a good character nothing more
@@mihawkhawkeye5890 did u forgot raiden can boost characters burst too ? with her eye of stormy judgement. its not just apply electro lol. did u really think she give ring for visual only ? i cant believe ppl always forgot about this detail and thinking raiden only for battery, electro apply and sub dps only lmao. theres a reason why she is in national team. her ring can boost xiangling, xingqiu/yelan's dmg burst.
@@mihawkhawkeye5890 what do you think about this revelation ? reading can do wonder u know. so yeah, better read next time, don't take information from people only.
attack buffers dont have good synergy with her since she cant get more than 3k attack so benny sara etc wont do much except for saras elemental dmg bonus from c6 but in comparision the aggravate damage with dendro and fischls passive talent have better dps overall so not really a point adding attack buffers
she wont be, genshin usually tells us if the character is going to be standard banner unit prior to their initial banner i think so shes safe also, she is a little too good to be a standard banner unit tbh
She is not going in the standard banner, they would tell us through the livestream if a character is going in standard. They announced clorinde as a limited character
Dmg dmg and dmg.... Earlier I tried using Sara but rotation is a complete mess... And dmg is also quite low compared to fischl.... Why? Because clorinde's personal dmg isn't very high to use sara buff it's better to use fischl who can deal a lot of dmg
fischls passive boosts her dmg after every aggravate proc, fischl also deals a shit load of off field dmg similat to yae or even better so just a ton of more dmg nin comparision to sara and clorinde's kit makes it so that her attack cannot be buffed more than 3k so attack buffers like sara and benny dont have very good synergy, so when u add aggravate reaction and kazuha u just get way more dps than u normally would with characters smiliar to raiden nuke with benny and sara
Fischl has an ascension passive that makes Oz do extra attacks every time the on-field character causes an electro reaction (electrocharged, overload, superconduct, aggravate). This extra attack has no ICD (Internal cooldown, essentially how often can the attack cause a reaction). So every proc can aggravate and hence do really good damage. Clorinde is the perfect character in this case to drive Oz since she attacks very fast, causes a ton of aggravates and in turn procs FIschl’s A4 a LOT for some crazy off-field damage.
This video is a proof and I who own both is actually saying that Ei actually sweeps until you go to higher cons. Clorinde gets better damage output than Ei after c4 where Raidens damage potential stops at c3. Both have their own advantages. Raiden is still a better unit she works everywhere, a support,battery and has better damage till c3 where clorinde doesn't even come close. It changes after c4 tho. So if you're a f2p and ig you're talking about c0-c3 Raiden is still better and versatile.