it's abit of a wild west and alot of players myself included got placed at rhe wrong rank. I've had to decimate about 30 games on a kda of over 8 as I got placed g4 and now I'm d2 and still going.
I have thoughts about where that type of gameplay could go but I think the ranked experience is mostly as is at this point other than the weird CSR crunch where every onyx is d5 for a week or so. thanks for commenting dude.
I can't agree more regarding the AR, I've been complaining about it from day one. I get my shields drained down to one shot from an AR from long range.... That should not be possible. It also encourages bad habits in my play style when using it, its such low skill high reward weapon.
Lol i forgot Halo 3 ranked had radar. It's the MLG playlist that was more hardcore. Now, a pistol secondary would make this a rather nice playlist. ARs coupled with radar is social, but you can definitely have sweaty, team-based matches with radar.
precisely. i very much think 343 is trying to bridge the gap with this playlist and it works well though i think bandit only starts would put the target audience off even though id prefer it
It can be sweaty but it’s not competitive or skill based. Why even considering having a ranking system in a low skill playlist. The addition of radar just nerfs the game in to oblivion
Trying to bandit a person before they AR you to death sounds like good practice for being clutch with it, but at the same time, it is likely to create rage.
I agree with most of it. I just dont think the AR is overpowered at all. It has a low skill ceeling. It's up to you to raise it for the opponent. As long as you know how to rotate around the map and keep in mind the distance in closed spaces when you turn corners. AR actually gets baited very easly. Its a weapon that gets very punished for missing shots or full auto firing at will. This mentallity that the AR is OP just cuz I dont wanna think while moving around the map is what took away the motion tracker and put BRs as starters. This is a sandbox game, and currently the Ranked slayer is more rewarding to those who know how to play the full sandbox as it should be. AR and Bandit are the same weapon. One is meant for longer ranges, the other for closer. Both are equally balanced when at medium range, but due to the nature of how people aim and shoot, it feels more punishing to blind fire with the Bandit at medium distances. I myself would choose the Sidekick over both of them at medium range. As it does not have this disadvantage. That is also why it's not a starting weapon. Cuz it fills the gap between the 2 weapons with an ''overpowering overlap'' to close range utility. If AR gets nerfed, there is no reason to use it over the pistol in any other playlist, unless a beginner is learning how to aim.
The only game mode that should have “motion tracker” is big team battle. The game becomes a slow rat fest with motion tracker and it shouldn’t even be considered for a 4v4 mode
@@VanadamYT i guess i never played that. But just from experience in infinite the game slows down and takes away any form of game sense required. The game is best when they let people use creativity and and map movement and not turn it in to a tower defense simulator.
@@deankruse2891 oh very true believe me i much prefer the "HCS" rules and always will. Ranked Slayer is where i can unwind and not spawn with an AR haha
Your point on the extreme pendulum swinging in team skill is the reason why I would not recommend ranked to anyone who can’t remove themselves from their CSR. I also think that the ranking system should take into consideration individual performance. The game is keeping better players in high gold and platinum. This ruins the experience for both the true gold/plat and the player stuck. This game doesn’t filter better players up well. In a loss, the top player should not always lose CSR. If that player is doing 50 percent of the work against a team at the same rank then that player clearly has the skill to move up (in my opinion). Regardless of a persons current position in ranked, the matches should feel balanced and they don’t more often than not. Is that not the point of ranked and all this talk around MMR…? Yes onyx players and the high level players will do their thing. Those players are so good they can overcome the adversity that average players cannot. Two uninformed players on a ranked team can be so damaging that they make the game “unwinnable”. In gold and platinum even the “top” player on the team can make the match harder yet still think they are carrying the team. I have seen players trade 20 for 20 on team slayer and complain they are carrying. That player is running afk, not calling out, trading fights and leaving his teammates to get flanked because they keep altering the spawns. How much more time should they get on this? Idk. I don’t know how hard balancing all of this is to be honest.
this is more of a trueskill 2 issue than a halo issue though they have modified it somewhat. in general to my knowledge TS2 uses an aggregate of your previous 25 games or so (i think) so if you're on tilt and get slapped 10 games, it will be harsher to you. it happened to me in S2 where i would go -11 on a loss but +7 on a win on the way to onyx, once i got consistent it stopped doing it.
@@VanadamYT yeah that wouldn’t surprise me. I can be inconsistent, but so is the game I’m in aus and play from 20-200 ping and in the last month I’ve been getting way more packetloss, the game drives me nuts sometimes. Shot through walls or teleporting opponents ha ha. It’s all part of halo infinite at the moment
I agree the matchmaking is horrific in this game ranked or not. It’s prob my second biggest issue with playing this game besides desync. Always feels like I have to try hard to even come close to win
@@VanadamYT I guess but why not keep the most requested ranked mode since day one and rid of one that’s not as desired. They should find a way to keep majority happy
my home will always be halo, and if I'm going to do content like this for other games, I want to have confidence that what I'm saying is the better/right course of action for the viewers. by day, I actually coach esports teams for most of those games you said in college esports. in short, yes, but I can't decide what and of I'm good enough to do it!
I was disappointed with it. I don't like the radar in ranked, I love the AR but would've loved a bandit only start with sniper type power weapon pick-ups, and the MMR issue was wild. Overall, I can't see myself playing this much.
yeah i know what you mean. i got Halo 3 feels from it and I know its not really targeted at me I think its suppose to be that middle ground for more social players before they dip into HCS settings
Ranked Slayer is perfect. Finally we get to play ranked halo and not shitty HCS Also, no the AR isn't too good, it's viable, there's a difference. Yes the AR will agree the bandit up close, as it should, but mid to long you have no chance.
@@VanadamYT it doesn't, it's useless at long range and hits about 50% at mid, any precision weapon will destroy it at mod to long range. Unless you're just bad.
I know I’m not the first to say this but I still think Motion trackers shouldn’t be in competitive playlists. Motion Tracker is a bitch mechanic that should only be in non competitive modes. It give entirety too much information. I mean it’s basically walling. Shit I’d settle for the H5 ranked Motion tracker that only shows when firing, sprinting, or using abilities/equipment. Personally I think Ranked Slayer should be the same settings that we see in Ranked Arena and then remove Slayer modes from the Ranked Arena playlist. That way the Slayer players get their playlist and the Arena players don’t have to suffer through Slayer games that they don’t even wanna play in the first place.
i do think we should have a HCS slayer playlist too but with the current population and 343 trying to cater to more social players and eventually convert them over to HCS rules by using ranked slayer as a bridge, we may be a long way off
A lot of the problem with "ranked" Slayer right now is due to the settings not being Halo, and the design of this being entirely around "non competitive fun" instead of what Halo always was. Needless to say -- - Footsteps are still incredibly loud, making radar even more powerful. Removing radar fixes this. - The sheer amount of total weapons on maps make it abysmal to play. The AR is an abysmal powerhouse that shouldn't be a starting weapon. - The marketing and focus around this being added was abysmal -- no marketing, only one off-hand blog post, not even regarding the playlist. And the entire focus was around "infection" instead of the core pillar of Halo. And worst of all. Ranked is still meaningless due to it not being fair, nor progression. You are still not provided equal matches, it's still basing matching based on MMR (Due to placement matches) and they should remove all of these attributes entirely, starting you from 1. They need to make these, all ranked playlists, not just permanent -- But priority and focused. Halo 2 and Halo 3's only, and I mean only, focus was on the ranked playlists. The fact we digressed so far to believe it's acceptable to have "optional ranked playlists" in the series that started "ranked playilsts" is hilarious. Like, there's probably 1,000 players in infection, and the rest are sitting between Ranked Slayer, Ranked Arena, and a niche around the other regions of the game. And that's in the current, pitiful state it sits in -- next to MLB The Show on Xbox, and with less than 9,000 players on steam at it's peak this season, trickling down from there. We, and 343, need to stop pretending "Halo is a casual social party game" and start realizing that the bulk of the players who would play Halo only were playing Halo for it's ranked gameplay, and nothing more. A portion of those cared about "HCS", and the other portion cared about hitting the skill based rank that they wanted to achieve. Removing the ability to "progress" in ranked is already abysmal enough -- limiting the amount of playlists that are provided it, and putting "all focus" on irrelevant low population areas is even worse. It shouldn't have taken 1.5 years to "Add ranked slayer". But that's not the point. The point is: It took 1.5 years BECAUSE the community told 343 to focus on irrelevant aspects, things no one (and I mean no one) benefits from or actually cared about. Custom Games Browser has, at most, 300 people in it at a time. How many of those "new forge maps" are actually being downloaded and played by in a custom game. And how many people are actually caring about infection, or the 2 dozen "social" playlists they kept adding? At some point we need to stand up and say "No, Halo Community, you're wrong. Halo's failure is due to you. 343 is only listening to you. Stop pretending Halo is a casual social experience, and start realizing that Halo's only success was it's unique competitive flare and offering, in specifically ranked variation, in it's original day. Realize that Halo's only unique offering in the FPS industry of today is to be a skillful, unique FPS that actually provides reward for winning attributed to it's legacy." Instead of continuously focusing on things no one cares about. At the end of the day. Infection failed because no one cared to play zombies in Halo (It hasn't been relevant since 2008). No one cared to play Ranked Slayer because it was: 1) Never marketed 2) Horribly implemented with poor non-competitive settings 3) Not a focus of the game (ironically) and put as a step child 4) Attributed with a skill based ranking system that still, to this day, doesn't match or rank you based on your wins and losses I'll say this one very simply. I blame the community. I don't blame 343 at this point. It's been 13 years, and I'll definitively say -- this is the only time the community will make a post, or video, claiming "343 listened!!" and then backtrack with "343 failed because halo infinite is too competitive" (Meanwhile, the game itself has like 1 competitive option when Halo CE, Halo 2 and Halo 3 were all innately competitive in vanilla design. Part of the flare of hearing someone say "their sandboxes were imbalanced, BR or Pistol is too OP" is when they don't realize what they're inferring is that they were too competitive, and they need the sandbox to be less competitive/"difficult" for them to have fun).
Ever since season 4 came out the game hasn't felt as fluid to me, and my shot/mechanics have been off. Went from an average of 1.5 k/d to about 0.6 it's been entire night and day. My shot has always been good, average around 70% acc and suddenly every shot either doesn't connect, or straight misses. What did they actually do to the game? I've tried to verify game integrity, entirely reinstall. Nothing works. It doesn't even make sense. Even the sound of footsteps are leading me astray, something is very wrong with the PC version of this game. It's making me want to quit halo again, dropping so far out of Onyx level play.
I'm having alot of issues with shot registration at the moment sometimes I shoot people and they just don't die. there have been some unintended physics changes, shyway did quite a good video on it
@@VanadamYT Just watched it now, explains why I've been missing movements a whole lot at least. At one point I was walking straight into a wall after failing a jump I'd normally do quite easily. Play hyper aggro, and it works out for me- although one missed shot and my kind of playstyle is dead in the water. Especially now that I've reached Onyx, and all. Play really cocky due to having good aim, and decent mechanics but it is my strongpoint. Game sense and all other aspects I lack behind. Been trying to not challenge anything and playing different with so many shots missing or not connecting and it's lead to me losing 20 matches in a row.
I mean i dont get why they dont make bandit the primary gun for arena as well. It takes more skill than the br and punishes you more if u miss a shot. It lets skill shine much more
it depends when you search and where from but I won't lie and say it's popular. halo has been niche for awhile so it doesn't really fuss me all too much
I would like to see Ranked Slayer keep a spot as a permanent playlist. It does a great job of being a middle ground between competitive and social. I can’t say I agree that the AR should be nerfed, however… I think a better change would be to start players with bandit only. I think a month will be enough time for the majority of active ranked players to be sorted into their respective divisions but I agree that games for the past few days have been egregious in skill disparity. Overall though this playlist is definitely a welcomed breath of fresh air and looking forward to playing it while it’s in rotation!
thanks for your comment, I'm glad that, on the most part, people agree with my thoughts. overall, the inclusion of this type of playlist is a W for the game, and hopefully, they can find a way to keep engagement up so rotation isn't needed!
it feels semi ranked to me haha. the game says it’s ranked but the other half of me feels like it isn’t because there’s a radar. overall I’m ok with it so far. I’m curious how much traffic it’ll get. it seems like it’s a medium for people who want to play competitively with radar. I know it’s exclusive to slayer, but I have curiosity for how the game would feel if objectives were included. then at that point you might as well call it semi ranked arena? idk haha
Nope. Not playing that game until cross play is optional again. I play on Xbox 4 days out of the week and it's just not worth the imbalance. I'll remain on MCC.
@@VanadamYT oh no I have no issue with mouse vs keyboard. I think that's okay. I don't even think it's an issue for having better registration on PC Compared to the majority of players who are on a series s. I just think it should be optional for platform specific optionality. It's been greyed out since season 1. It's because the wait times are increased. But it's pushed a large majority of series s players to MCC since it's been optional. It's purely a massive registration issue. I even had Barcode break his out and he can't believe how bad it is. I play tested both for a solid 6 months, but it's just not even acceptable to the fps actually influencing it.
Lol that's funny in every halo game they made the assault rifle useless as crap to the point no one used it but now all the sudden when it becomes viable you want to nerf it you know what if you want to nerf the assault than I guess they should nerf the br and the dmr as well because I'm sorry it just seems like a personal appinion at this point between br users and assault users...
Since the update yesterday the game has become unplayable. Jittery, lag. I'm just an average player who plays a bit of ranked and a lot of social. It feels like social servers have been downgraded severely. Perhaps just nobody is playing and I'm being matched on distant region servers but I can't get a kill for anything.
I think the poor performance of the server has been commonplace at the start of the season. maybe there is a back-end issue when updates occur. I get those issues you're describing when I'm on 30 ping shortly after updates.
oh I prefer the HCS settings 100% but i like the nostalgia it gives me of the more social Halo 3 ranked experience. the HCS settings we have now an mostly an evolution of the MLG playlist we had back then (no radar, etc)
in options it's the tab second from the right, change the local option to expanded but be warned you can get games with upto 300 ping but if you're in Europe American tends to be 100-200
I really hope they don't nerf the AR in social modes to acxomondate ranked, the strong AR is one of my favourite things about Infinite as someone with terrible aim lol
