I bought the 24-70 GMii but returned it because I didn't think it was worth the price. Yes, it's awesome, but not $2,300 awesome. I now use primarily a Sigma 28-70 or Sony 24-105 instead if I need a zoom. But these days I'm shooting mostly Sigma primes. Great video!
I've only spent 5 minutes with the GMII so far and I'm already debating returning it. The 20-70mm f4 I had was sharper wide open and didn't have chromatic aberration like this one does wide open. If I stop it down I'm sure that wouldn't be an issue but I'm thinking of buying the 28-70mm sigma and buying a whole other lens with the savings. Or I could even go back to the 20-70mm and buy a telephoto since I have small f1.8 35,50, and 85mm primes. I just know that 28mm isn't wide enough so I'd have to also get a wide lens. The 20-70mm is almost all that is needed on the wide end. I'm going to test it some more this week and see what I decide.
@@lewcehjitl3282 I was wrong about it. Turns out it's sharper than the 20-70 f4 and optically it's perfect. I wasn't used to the heavier weight and I was shooting with too slow of a shutter speed. I sped it up and it is better than the 20-70 for sure. I still think the 20-70 is a fantastic lens and it is really nice to carry around. If you only shoot in good lighting then the 20-70 is all you need, especially with light rooms new background blur functionality. I personally wouldn't go for the Tamron because it starts at 28mm and sometimes I wish the 24mm was wider. That's my only complaint with the GMII. The good thing about it is that although I sometimes wish it were wider it is worth the compromise for the other benefits, but I would have been even more tempted to keep the 20-70mm if the new light room background blur feature was out at that time. The GMII is way heavier than the 20-70mm.
@@lewcehjitl3282Tamron G2 - don't buy into the hype, unless you're literally getting paid thousands of dollars for your work. You're gonna regret it. The differences are so subtle that you could easily fix it in 2 seconds in post
i've both owned tamron and sigma f2.8 zooms and i feel many like me are constantly hit by the upgrade bug, always looking for the next upgrade. Buying the gm II would be a once and done for most enthusiast photographers. Investing in good glass is always one for the long run instead of the constant buying , selling , upgrade. That said , the price of the gm ii is definitely a tough pill to swallow.
If you are an enthusiast, it's not an investment. It's an expenditure. If you are a pro, then, theoretically, it's an investment...and yet none of your clients will notice the difference.
I got this Tamron two weeks ago. It is only 1/3 of the price of the Sony but if you work with it without holding them side by side or zooming in 400%, there is no big difference. It's a pleasure to have a standard zoom of this quality at 700-750€!
Thank you so much Kensei! I really want to upgrade my 24-70mm kit lens and I’m gonna get the Tamron for the time being until I can afford that GMII since I mostly do all stills! :3
Your question about whether the shooter's skill has greater than their current lens is the question every photographer should be asking themselves before spending more money. I ask people this same question when they ask me for gear buying advice. I tell them to buy photography books and take classes. Subscribed because of your philosophy of using what we already have.
I stayed away from Sony GM2 and stuck with my 4 years old Tamron G1. Differences are not enough to justify the spend. And most important thing of all - listen in to the video at 12:12. I subscribed just because of that last part!
amazing content cant believe you only have 20k subs, also not sure if you have done a video comparing the FE 85mm 1.8 vs sigma 85mm 1.4 but i would love your input on it ,wondering if the less weight is a good trade off for the image and build quality of the sigma and no cat eye bokeh. would love to hear your opinion or maybe even a video
....This is a case of a 'win-win' scenario: the Tamron 28-75 is an excellent value for the average consumer or beginning pro on a tight budget, you just have to decide if you can live with the 4mm less width, which is often a breaking point (weddings, cityscapes)... The Sony 24-70 GMII is just freaking UNREAL and one of the best lenses I've ever used, and, other than bokeh, outperforms many lower-priced prime lenses at those focal lengths. The GM's - especially all the GMII's - get the very best performance out of Sony's high-end cameras (A1, A9/A9II) in fps (Non-native lenses have a 15 fps capture rate on the A1, for example), so the GM's are your only option if high burst rate is crucial... Kudos to Sony for owning a 17% share in Tamron, they are obviously sharing technology with them, and the consumer is getting a ton more lenses to chose from a great prices!! Great video buddy, let's see that 24-70 GMII vs. 50mm prime video!! 😃👍🤜🤛
To highlight your excellent points: Win-win for the Sony e-mount! Tamron outstanding performance for the price. GM's extra value is not just video but photos that can match the quality of primes and ever focal length in-between where no primes exist! and the 24-70mm being one of the most useful focal ranges and holds it value. For me a non-pro Tamron all the way and the GM II I have to earn it.
Hell, even that tameron lens is beyond my budget satisfaction. The most I spent on a lens is about 600, and that was a telephoto lens. I spent around 150 to 300 on prime lenses such as an af 30mm af 75mm and a vintage 135mm lens on a sony a6400.
Very impressed with your edits and smooth style carefully and craftily entertaining; highly refined and presented a well balanced argument for and against the GM. You have to be at a serious pro level to fully utilize the GM's strength.
You put so much work and creativity into these videos- they are enjoyable even if I don't necessarily " care" about the particular lens that is being reviewed. Ha,ha - I own four Tamron lenses and only one G Master......
@@KenseiAkatsu Kensei - I was not implying any criticism in my comment. I think you are doing fine . Please review what pleases you and I will watch! I am laughing because I just impulse bought two new Tamron lenses ( the 20-40 and the 70-300) when I thought I was going to buy the 35 G Master for the same money! Unless I get my hands on the G Master at a later time, I will never know which decision was the "best." But I am enjoying my new lenses and feel a renewed pleasure in photographing what I see around me so maybe that is really what counts - not fractional improvements in sharpness, tone, etc. for many more $$$. I think you are wise in always pointing that out in your comparisons.
Once you get in trouble and need to defend yourself, you will appreciate GM, even better if you have Sigma 24-70/2.8 with you. I currently use Tamron 50-400mm for street shooting, it gives both enough time to run away as well as a defense when needed. 😅
I just got it and I like it, but it feels inferior in terms of image stabilization compared to the older version of this lens. I could get that lens to hold on a shot pretty easily but this one is more sensitive.
good ending would be you talking all Japanese with both English and Japanese subtitles about off the main video topic, like you did here in this vid, addressing subscribers, asking for advice, explaining last video last minute question to attract people to previous content - give some glimpse of your private life - like my gf/bf my cat my family member my friend, something random that happened to you - like a flashlight glimpse on Japanese culture - all in Japanese language - maybe footage of real Japanese woman or a man with some questions not necessary related to photography - but all in photography take would work to - but then make sure to provide onscreen details of exact gear used. software used for processing rendering etc - only last minute - that seems and sound like a lot of extra work - but would be definitely great to end with the bang!
Hey man! I’m really curious, did you use the same white balance / contrast settings for both shots when you compared similar shots? The Tamron colors seem a lot warmer or yellow/orange tinted. I think you also mentioned this in another video. To me, the Tamron would be a good option, given the lighter build, but those straight out of the camera color tones seem like a deal breaker when compared to other models, like sigma contemporary 28-70 or art 24-70, so I’m wondering if it can be prevented somehow.
Just as you showed in your comparision between the Tamron and the Sigma Contemporary the Tamron has some warmer colors/shadows. The sony does a really neutral color without having a blue or cyan touch to it like the lenses from Sigma.
thank you for your Super Duper Amazing Content for Review And Compare every Gear in this chanel, Very Helpful For Make Decision to choose gear that i want to buy 😀🙏
I used the sigma 24-70 for a year and a half or so, switched over to Tamron 35-150 for a year till it broke. Then someone gifted me the 24-70 GM ii when they found out I broke the tamron. If it wasn’t for being gifted the lens I don’t think I’d ever spend the money on it other than wanting to. I’m Feeling humbled and spoiled.
This is the first review I watched of you and bang, it's so cool. keep up the great job. You have a wonderful and unique way of connecting with viewers. Also thanks to you for teaching me my first Japanese word! You know why don't you teach one Japanese word in each of your videos? That would be pretty cool. " jamata" -----:)
Hi Kensei. Why you switched from Sigma 28-70 2.8 you chose about a year ago once you comparing it with Tamron and now you prefer Tamron 28-75 2.8? Why?
Great video, you really put a lots of work into it. For my novice eyes my tamron works for casual family videos and photos. Keep the great videos coming Btw fantastic summary and conclusion at the end. Really nailed. Its your first car. If you don’t really know how to drive we’ll then you shouldn’t start with a 500 hp sports model Thank you
Great comparison! Do you have advice for a videographer? I run a a7siii and have the 16-35mm gm ii. Would you recommend me get the Sony 50mm 1.2 or the Sony 24-70 gm ii? I'm not really into photography and more focused on video/real estate/travel. I would be carrying both lens at all times.
I have to say, in the handheld B-roll footage it seems the GMII is a bit shakier, I guess that also has to do with the extra weight compared to the Tamron. As a suggestion for your video it might also be worth diving a bit more into photo performance instead of only video performance. Great video non the less. Showed me the Tamron definitely is better value for money.
Yeah I'm not paying 3x the price for those differences! Through set design, pre-planning and post production all these differences are negliable. Think I'll pick up the Tamron 17-28 and 28-75 for almost 1k less
You can also get the Sigma 24-70 2.8 DG DN for around $999. Since I don't have a wide angle lens, that extra 4mm is more useful at the wide end than at the tele- end.
My individual opinion over the 24-70 gm ii : The picture quality im comparision with the version i is soooo clinical, too clinical actually and because of that the general picture character is affected. The version one has more character and cremear bokeh / less busy a tiny bit, and also rounder bokeh balls.
It seems like a bit of a waste, feeding an APSC system GM glass. After processing and especially after RU-vid compression, nobody will know you did your work with Tamron or Sigma or plain old Sony glass.
That's a good point! Maybe it's kinda overkilling for social media. But at least it's making some differences and I think that's beneficial for some people!
SO SONY INTENTIONALLY MAKES AUTOFOCUS AND IBIS WORSE ON NON SONY LENSES! PEOPLE SHOULD SUE SONY FOR THIS! Autofocus is 100% depends on camera not lense. Camera tells lens how much to focus, not lense. IBIS is also built into camera not lense.
Its not double the price, its triple in real life, and its not worth it. I see your examples on a large 4k screen, and they are just not different enough. I know diminishing returns, but 3x the price? Hell no, you could get this tamron and another gmaster prime for the same price. And in the image stabilisation section, you did not even mention which camera body you used. And how does the lens impact ibis anyway? You are saying the sony throttles the ibis on 3rd party lenses? I know your tests are not scientific in the slightest, but some of the stuff bordering on nonsence and total non repeatability and subjectivity.
Are people nowadays really comparing cheaply made, mass manufactured glass from Tamron, Sigma, Samyang and the likes to high quality lenses that took months to design, engineer and manufacture? Seriously? I mean, I guess if you don't care about image quality and just pixel peep for sharpness, CA and look at bokeh, then I guess you can compare anything to anything.
@@Yupthereitism How can I regret buying a better product? I don't understand. Oh I get it, you meant to write that YOU regret YOUR purchase but you misspelled it. Oh... Makes sense now. I would regret buying cheaply made, mass manufactured glass if I was you too. I hope you do realize that price has nothing to do with the quality of the manufacturing, design and engineering processes of a product. There are manufacturers like Zhong Yi (Mitakon), for example, who make SUPER CHEAP glass but since they make their lenses available on Leica, Hasselblad, PhaseOne and Fuji G mounts, they need to hold up a higher quality standard and their lenses need to at the very least be close to or match the image quality standards of native Leica, Hasselblad and PhaseOne lenses. You get top notch engineering for $300-$800. You won't see that with 90% of other manufacturers and you most definitely wont see that with crappy, mass manufactured, casual consumer grade garbage from Tamron, Samyang, Sigma and the likes.
