Is Redeemed Zoomer Leaving the PCUSA? 

You are raising thar boy right

Greatest Comment Ever.

Harbor Freight Discount Doug Wilson

Take that kid to Harbor Freight- he’ll love it!

It's the Doug Wilson if he was more graceful with folks 😁.

That is so kind of you, thank you!!!

He should have a gleam from his smile at that point!!

Thanks for listening!

That’s correct

When did the first covenanters come to the new world? And wasn't there a period when they settled temporarily in Ulster?

you can pretty much sum it up as kid got no xp. i want to like his content, but he has consistently proven he knows more about his favorite institutions than actual good theology. my bet is in 5 (maybe 10 at most with a pit stop in conversion to anglican or rc) he'll be on the tic toks talking about his deconstruction with the likes of piper's boy. i don't like it, just what i see.

Your summary - okay, it wasn't a summary ... - encapsulates my perspective. I need a snippet of life experience before I consider his opinion little more than a young Don Quixote tilting at daffodils 😐

He’s just an elitist and Christianity is the subject/identity/vehicle which he uses to express it. I’ve lost a ton of respect for him recently, especially since he got called out by another pastor for always “punching right” and being overly critical of conservative denoms, and he gave a fake apology to sound good and then kept on doing it anyways.

How is giving up your vote tactical?

@@davewhite756 It's a joke...

I'll give this a try. Others can correct me if I get this wrong or leave out too many details. Yes, the Westminster Seminaries are conservative, but there are other seminaries that are committed to the historic Reformed faith. For example, Reformed Theological Seminary (RTS) which has multiple campuses, Covenant Seminary, the official seminary of the PCA, and other seminaries of the smaller Presbyterian Churches like Erskine Seminary of the ARPC or the Reformed Presbyterian Theological Seminary of the RPCNA. Of course, if your goal is to stay within the PCUSA, you can still get a good Reformed education at Princeton even though conservatives may be in a minority. There are also non-Presbyterian seminaries that have a largely conservative student body and faculty and a significant Presbyterian presence. The two schools that most often get mentioned in this category are Fuller Seminary and Gordon-Conwell Seminary. You can still get ordained in the PCUSA from these two seminaries. Sorry if I've missed some other good schools.

@@mj6493 Very complete response. Thank you for your efforts.

Yeah, but that's why he sent his Son.

that implies he's surprised by our behaviour lol

Someone is about to get a Revelation letter. 😂

He's sending curses our way & they're going to continue to get a lot worse.

Yep! Hans wrote and performed the song :)

Except for Pentecostals!…😊

😂😂😂

Do explain?

Bc I’ve been laboring under the misimpression that the Bible was enough of a foundation😂

And if you… -let a woman make an announcement (ie, “speak”) -let a woman not wear a doily -don’t regularly wash people’s feet …you “reject what the Bible directly states.” Hermeneutics matters. If you’re interpreting the Bible flatly without attention to culture and history, grow up. You’re entitled to your opinion, as long as you hold it as an opinion.

@@debras3806 Nah, all you do is follow Biblical instruction and treat heretics as any other person who rejects God.

there's not a single denomination I don't hate on at some point

@@redeemedzoomer6053 fair and valid point lol

I love an equal opportunity hater 😂 ​@@redeemedzoomer6053

​@@redeemedzoomer6053💯 same here

​@@redeemedzoomer6053Oh, that's not an uplifting, click-seeking post 🤦🏻

Even though Roman Catholics, Eastern Orthodox, Oriental Orthodox, and the Church of the East have a lot of hierarchy, centralized structure, stricter rules and procedures, and believe in the “one true church” doctrine, many of them, even some of their priests are just overtly “Cafeteria Catholics”/Nominally Orthodox (who are very nominal or only culturally Catholic/Orthodox), or even Folk Catholic/Folk Orthodox, some aren’t really devout Christians even by their own Catholic/Orthodox standards thus creating a huge variation in beliefs and huge deviation from core Christian tenants of the faith among individuals that are supposed to be shared by all true (Mainstream-Nicene) Christians regardless of denomination even though on paper there are strict outlines of dogma & hierarchy. While Evangelicals are very decentralized, believe “in essentials unity, in nonessentials liberty, in all things charity,” and put a higher emphasis on understanding and living out correct Christian teaching as opposed to obsessing over structure and hierarchy like Catholics do; so people who have wonky and unorthodox beliefs when it comes to primary issues tend to leave because in Evangelicalism there’s no point in staying (for the exception of non-Christian Republicans/political conservatives in the United States who don’t go to church & are stealing/co-opting the term for political reasons in collusion with secular media who want to fit their boogymen into neat boxes) because by definition you can’t be an Evangelical or a Christian if you no longer hold to those beliefs; Catholicism, Eastern/Oriental Orthodoxy, and Mainline Protestantism are the opposite, Catholics/Orthodox who don’t hold to Catholic/Orthodox beliefs or even basic Christian beliefs are guilt-tripped into staying and are encouraged to stay because a baptized Catholic/Orthodox is still a Catholic/Orthodox even if they no longer believe in the tenants of the faith - most stay because simply being in the Catholic Church or the Orthodox Churches is more important than upholding Catholic/Orthodox or even broadly Christian beliefs. … … A similar occurrence also happens in Mainline Protestant denominations not because they believe in the “one true church” doctrine (which they don’t), it’s because Mainline Protestant denominations are ready and willing to bend their core beliefs via theological liberalism/theological progressivism to maintain membership, plus (some also obsess over maintaining power/hierarchy as opposed to maintaining biblically orthodox theology and) many maintain membership and participate in church practices (like Baptism, Confirmation, etc.) solely for social and cultural reason even if they don’t believe in the tenets of the faith.

@@leullakew9579 those are all very true criticisms of apostolic churches. But that does not really address the issue at hand. For instance you do have a lot of Catholics who do not know anything about the Catholic faith. That is very true. But those Catholics are not driving church doctrine. They are also not causing schism. Nor are they the cause or the reason behind having three different conservative Presbyterian denominations in the USA. Yes we all have issues, But a lot of the protestant issues are of constant infighting and becoming their own denomination

Try now. Sometimes the first few minutes it’s still processing.

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The Bible has left the chat

@@WarriorcatGerda The Bible attests to the Catholic Faith

@@lifematterspodcast if that were so the Pharisees were the good guys

That’s just mean and ironically, immature. Ever heard of “ad hominem”? Maybe you should look it up

I am sure that's exactly why Christ established an institutional Church government that consisted of the Apostles and Saint Peter who then went on to appoint their own bishops and all that. It sounds almost like you are indeed subject to some instituonal Church when we see that was how the Church understood it from day one.

Yea right, Jesus railed on the corrupt Jews, wouldn't tell the apostles who was greatest, then appointed one to be High Priest 😂

@geraldhill7547 Jesus wasn't against authority. He was the authority, this is a misunderstanding people make. He clearly puts the apostles in charge and historical writings from the early Church prove that beyond reasonable doubt. Your view of a rudderless church never happened..someone is definitely in charge.

@@dman7668 That someone is Christ. Today's internet and literacy rates are all a part of God's plan. The churches are losing people daily because of the world creeping in but Christ is online and the holy spirit is within us. Have a Blessed day 🙏

Sin is not a thing though it has consequences. We cannot say God created something that doesn’t exist.

how do you square that belief with what romans 9 says? "does not the potter have a right over the clay, to make from the same lump one vessel for honorable use and another for common use? What if God, although willing to demonstrate His wrath and to make His power known, endured with much patience vessels of wrath prepared for destruction? And He did so to make known the riches of His glory upon vessels of mercy, which He prepared beforehand for glory" romans 9:21-23 (please read the whole chapter though)

@@nvrprfct9176 how do you square calvinism with the whole Bible and the loving, merciful and patience character of God?

​@@elsamusoyonly makes sense w chadvinism bro

@@elsamusoy not a response. please interpret romans 9 through your framework. If your framework cannot account for something in scripture like romans 9, it can't be a valid framework. that doesn't mean calvinism is true, it just means your framework is false.