Is she good for F2P players? E0S0 Acheron showcase vs Sam (MoC 12)

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This time budget investment Acheron team, with 5* characters at E0 and gacha lightcones at superimposition 3, and rather relatable relics. Also, cycles are now visible!
Battle vs upcoming MoC 12 (with Sam), entered through Acheron's technique. All units stats in-game are shown at the beginning of the video.
-- Character Stats BEFORE battle:
Acheron E0 + S3 Good Night Sleep Well
65/117 crit, 111 speed, 3055 attack
(Pioneer set + Izumo planar)
Aventurine E0 + S3 Trend of the Universal Market
34/77 crit, 144 speed, 30% effect res
(Knight set + Broken Keel planar)
Silverwolf E0 + S5 Before the Tutorial Mission Starts
115% EHR, 155 speed, 30% effect res
(Hackerspace/Longevous sets + Broken Keel planar)
Pela E6 + S3 Resolution Shines As Pearls of Sweat
85% EHR, 153 speed, 30% effect res
(Hackerspace/Longevous sets + Broken Keel planar)
sry if misplays, skull issue
#honkaistarrail #hsr #f2p #acheron #aventurine #silverwolf #goodnightsleepwell

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@altogrey9712 4 месяца назад

You could argue that with Aventurine, its not as F2P, since his banner is directly after Acheron's, so good chance the F2Ps that pull her and only her wouldnt have Aventurine too. But tbf, even without them, you still have Fire TB, their taunt is a debuff so you can get some stacks from them. And if you have Trend Market LC, any preservation character would do wonders for the team. But yeah, she does lose out on alot of energy without her LC, but GNSW atleast does offer a good chunk of dmg from its effect, even if it has 4 star stats.

@shinluhao3015 4 месяца назад

Oohh almost 3 cycles, that's pretty good.Could you please do another one but with acheron, kafka, black swan and aventurine?

@MatzrealHSR 4 месяца назад

sure, but with their signature lightcones or 4* ones?

@shinluhao3015 4 месяца назад

@@MatzrealHSR With sig LCs please, all E0. Thanks!

@polchwn4090 4 месяца назад

Oh there is actually a freesr with turn count ? Welp if its an update that’s cool since the one without turn count completely serves 0 purpose other than to show unit kit interactions.

@lucasarouca2844 4 месяца назад

Wdym?

@danielak1666 4 месяца назад

@@lucasarouca2844most private servers don't have a MoC style turn cycle counter. So, yeah, you could see how well unit interaction but you can't really see how fast they clear MoC

@polchwn4090 4 месяца назад

@@lucasarouca2844 the software that was used to create this run ( you can read it at the bottom right ), previously people that used this tries to emulate MoC run but without the turn count, which kind of doesn't serve any purpose than to show the unit kit interactions, with a proper cycle count we can gauge lot more information about the unit power and performance.

@yassintitto8693 4 месяца назад

Can you please show us the difference between e0s0 and e0s1

@MatzrealHSR 4 месяца назад

plan to release one soon!

@rallerz3241 4 месяца назад

Sam...

@avionu3122 4 месяца назад

I will win the 50/50 on Acheron 🙏🏼

@CozyRogers 4 месяца назад

Is atk-boot Acheron performing better than speed-boot Acheron?

@Luziy_Loro 4 месяца назад

Do you want Acheron to akt more or do u want higher dmg? You chosse lmao, Most her dmg in her ultimate tho and team makes can fuel that so... Yea u chosse :) ❤

@KuroiShiAnimu 4 месяца назад

@@Luziy_Loro The issue is that speed makes you act more meaning you deal less damage each time but you deal it more often so it can be a DPS increase even though you're losing ATK. The question is if multiple actions outperform the ATK bonus which might be the case to consistently fuel her Ult in specific comps

@disabop763 4 месяца назад

saw on the subreddit that you'll probably want spd boots on her to get above the 134 spd threshold unless you have a nihility sustain/acheron e2 to run a harmony like e2 bronya or ruan mei that would push her above the threshold already

@CozyRogers 4 месяца назад

@@disabop763 Yeah 134 speed is the cutoff to give her 2 turns on the first cycle. But I'm wondering, if 90% of her dmg is on her ult anyway, is it better if to go speed (she can take more turns to charge her ult a bit faster) or atk (her ult will hit harder, and will still be charged relatively fast by her teammates alone). This showcase seems to be running atk boots (I assume, cuz it's sub-134 speed).

@disabop763 4 месяца назад

@@CozyRogers In general, you want 134 spd on hyper carries and Acheron in particular would benefit even more from having her extra turn since she wants as many stacks of Slashed Dream as possible. Her being able to ult more often (even if only slight) will probably outdps any difference in dmg between atk or spd boots. And it's not like her skill dmg is completely negligible either- more spd means more skills per cycle which would make up for the dmg even more. That being said, assuming your teammates were to happen to funnel enough somehow consistently (s1 aventurine, high spd debuffer teammates etc.) it is an interesting thought to consider.. If you like bigger numbers over slightly more overall dps, that could be the way to go!

@Luziy_Loro 4 месяца назад

117 crit dmg on Acheron against sam hurts, Also pela and sw being 155 speed instead of 160 speed.. Hurts my eyes, No hate was amazing Showcase most things I point out don't realy change the playing field that much but they ad up over a loong battle... 150% crit dmg Acheron should do a bit more, debuffers speed specaily effect the rate u get ultimate on Acheron Amazing Showcase for avrage builds :) *could u do one with 150 crit dmg, same crit rate Acheron, And somehow bring both pela and sw to 160 speed?* Have a Great day❤

@urameshi4725 4 месяца назад

Acheron requires very high investment for F2P. I wouldn't pull unless you're willing to get her LC. Thanks for the showcase btw

@danidudes3239 4 месяца назад

Because her damage at E0 S0 is lower compared to E2 S1? Wow. I never knew that. Sarcasm aside, that also applies to other characters. Jingliu's lightcone will give you an insane damage boost. Any character's eidolons will give you a boost. So... what's the point in riding along with people saying she's not worth pulling for f2p? This showcase is E0 S0 and is hitting pretty hard.

@Lad871 4 месяца назад

@@danidudes3239the main difference between Acheron and other dmg dealers is that other than GNSW (which is a gacha lightcone) she has zero other F2P lightcone options. Also the difference between S5 GNSW and S1 Sig Lightcone is around 31%.. Acheron is the first ever character to have THIS big massive boost from her 4* option to her lightcone. Plus her DMG is backloaded (which is not a big problem since she can get at most 3 ult in One turn). She will be fine at E0 no doubt on that. But you NEED GNSW lightcone at least. Other dmg dealers have f2p lightcone access.. IL and JL - Herta shop lightcone JY - Both the MoC lightcones Seele and Ratio - Herta lightcone again Blade - MoC Destruction lightcone (The Sam one)

@danidudes3239 4 месяца назад

@@Lad871 I'm pretty sure 90% of f2p players would have had gnsw by now after almost a year of gacha. You should even have welt's light one if you save your starlight(?) or get lucky enough to pull it from the standard banner. that 31% damage boost? big deal. Numbers can change and that damage boost really shouldn't be a surprise. Yeah backloaded damge. True. But its true for all nihility and still better than Jingyuans backload because at least with a fast team, acheron can ult more. Stop riding the acheron is bait train and get her if you want. Spend money on her light cone if u want it so bad to 'work'

@Lad871 4 месяца назад

@@danidudes3239 No one is saying she is a bait character... Plus the last time GNSW was featured in the weapon banner was a long time ago . I doubt even 60% of the player base have that lightcone let alone any Superimpose.. Jing Yuan's Backloaded DMG isn't worse than Acheron because with Sparkles , he can ult frequently which is like 37-40% of JY's total DMG..

@danidudes3239 4 месяца назад

@@Lad871 A lot of people actually say she is a bait character............. I only pulled on the weapon banner twice but I think I got most copies on other banners... You can get lucky and get it but by now, a lot of people would have gotten at least S1 Well sure jingyuan can ult more but the lightning lord is just more than half of his damage just backloaded according to your numbers.

@chupunggatv6416 4 месяца назад

Pass for now .. My JY can deal almost 500k Damage depends how many monster on the field .. not to mention my JY relics is trash 😅😅

@dagoxy 4 месяца назад

You trippin, i have jing with signature LC and Sparkle + tingyun. He can reach 200k but 500k is completely made up

@chupunggatv6416 4 месяца назад

@@dagoxy nah .. I can do that .. 300k damage from LL 150k ult and 50k for skill

@n1c3tr1ck2 4 месяца назад

I can do that, with RM and Sparkle, with TY, its 3 harmony tho. @@dagoxy

@TheH1st0ry 4 месяца назад

@@chupunggatv6416I hope you dont speak about SU... only MoC or PF is a real benchmark.

@chupunggatv6416 4 месяца назад

@@TheH1st0ry yep .. that damage is in MOC

@-Getsuga- 4 месяца назад

The problem with these "F2P" Acheron showcases is always the same: She always got a GNSW LC equipped in them - mostly even at S3-S5... There are many people out there - even some Day 1 HSR players - who simply DON'T have this LC even at S1, because it is a gacha LC and therefore random to get. I'm one of these people and that's why I'll skip her for now... as much as I wanted to roll for Acheron since she is so freaking cool, but mhy really didn't make her very F2P friendly... what a shame!

@TheH1st0ry 4 месяца назад

Her problem is that she is the first character out of a role so to speak. She is more of a hunt/AoE character, because she fills not only the damage role, but just does not have any kind of debuffs or DoT that is applied by her. The flowers dont seem to have any effect, so that means that she just does not benefit from any other LCs besides GNSW and her own LC, that even gives her a debuff. If she could use hunt LCs... that would make things much easier.

@-Getsuga- 4 месяца назад

@@TheH1st0ry Yeah, exactly. Her being Nihility really makes building her a lot more difficult than it needs to be... On top of her not having any good F2P LC options right now, there is also the fact that you're pretty much forced to play her with 2 other Nihility characters at E0 to get her max. damage bonus, which pretty much also limits her team comps... Sigh. Mihoyo really should've given away a F2P LC option for her from an event in 2.1 or something, but I guess making players spend as much money for her AND her sig LC was what was most important to them. What a shame! I would've loved to roll for her right away in 2.1, because she is such a cool character and her animations are amazing! But yeah, she'll be skipped for now and I'll probably get her on a rerun when I hopefully have better LC & support options ready for her. Way to kill all the hype for a character I wanted, mihoyo! GJ on that! 👏

@LaurSfetcuM 4 месяца назад

@@-Getsuga-They will prob release an event 4 star light cone made for her but idk if she is worth pulling, i am going to pull because i want a nice electric hypercarry (lost 50/50 on kafkas banner twice, and i do have jing yuan but i dont realy enjoy his gameplay), initially i wanted both her and her lc, i had enough untill i started to reconsider skipping sparkle, i pulled her and used my guaranteed so rn i am on a 50/50 i hope i loose it so i can farm for aventurine or Fu xuan/Huohuo but i want her too so i will try to get her. If i eventually get her she is just going to steal my dr ratio relics

@LaurSfetcuM 4 месяца назад

@@-Getsuga-Like why tf nihility, she was better erudition or hunt character but they just want us to whale, even tought she sucks for f2p i will still pull her ig

@nidhoggcrowley 4 месяца назад

yikes thats bad

@alien_liwil 4 месяца назад

Sucks to make such an impressive showcase and ppl still complain because she's not doing a million dmg while being f2p🤦‍♀️🙄

@harrysmth6852 4 месяца назад

Holy shit this is absolutely terrible

@dr.strange1300 4 месяца назад

Facts people really be hyping her up a bit too much

@saulGOOD95 4 месяца назад

@@dr.strange1300only genshit players

@okcool4585 4 месяца назад

300k dmg is terrible?

@danidudes3239 4 месяца назад

@@okcool4585People are worried E2 S1 is stronger than E0 S0. I cannot give you an answer as to why people think this way

@Renamecarddo 4 месяца назад

@@danidudes3239wow im so shocked at the fact that E2 S1 is stronger than E0 S0.Also mind you most people pulling for her because 1.shes Raiden bro 2.The ult animation and also the sound effects, absolutely godly and can make someone have an orgasm from hearing it istg Damn im really a nerd writing all of this 😂