Because pretty much everyone is taired of "High school" spider-man we have not see a adult spider-man show since well the 90 spider-man. And look if for some miracle spectacular return no one is gonna say nothing because its one of the best if not the best spider-man show in the modern era. Freshman year wait my friendly neighboor hood spider-man is a spider-man that's like a what if i love the idea first this being a prequel to HC then they change it to a alternative universe so the point is why this show need to exist? In short talk people are taired of Highschool spider-man shows, even in the comics the mature Peter dosen't exist anymore (at least 616 spider-man)
@@hannahmetzger4880 well tbf, it wouldn't be a smart idea to have the same character have multiple tv shows for multiple reasons but the main reason being they don't want split resources on 2 of the same shows and rather put all their resources into 1 show to have the highest Quality
@@KingOfTheClownsi think they meant something that is adult and also in continuity. The MTV spider-man took so many liberties that it felt like a separate universe at times
IDGAF, adults don't exist, only kidults. Spidey is permanently ruined post-venom, whose purpose was to mickeyfy him, that is, he used to be edgier almost to incel levels but now it's "something inside him", as per the western drunkard excuse "it wasn't me, bad mojo took over me". Ditko's Spider-Man was all about being toxic, venomous even, and learning to handle it. Also in terms of relationships, which I don't LIKE, but that's part of Spider-Man, not my favorite character for that. I much more like Fantastic Four, and Spidey's friendship with Johnny Storm or Bobby Drake is what speaks to me. Peter is an important character, one I would rather let be himself. The point is, Peter Parker is a figure who grew up as a nerd and resentful one at that, and peaked later in life with women tripping all over him, which DOES happen. That's the whole point of the Spider aesttehic, but all the stragglers like Venom and Miles just want to isolate that growth aspect and glorify these flat aspects in him.
I don't mind teenager Peter Parker because that's just my personal preference for Spider-Man, because it helps show Stan Lee's message that a teenager can be a hero just as long as they understand responsibility. I think the main reason why people are against the show is because it's MCU clickbait. Originally it was the origin of Tom Holland Spider-Man, but they clarified that it's actually an elongated "What If?" show. In other words, it's basically what Tom Holland would have been if Disney had all the rights to Spider-Man, not just to animated shows.
I don't think we've seen enough to even make any form of judgment on it, no trailers, no teasers, nothing. At least wait until the trailers, better yet the first episode before judging it.
I’ve always said that not every show needs to come back. Spider Man TAS ended with most loose ends resolved, and X-Men ‘97 confirmed everything we needed to know about MJ. To bring it back would feel like disingenuous nostalgia baiting. It’s not he same case as X-Men where their animated lines were so few and far between that there were just so many stories to tell, and there was major damage control to do for the brand.
Yeah for me personally Nostalgia definitely plays a factor and like everyone else I would rather see a older more seasoned Peter Parker/ Spider-Man and after seeing that successfully in the Spider-Verse movies idk why Marvel would wanna go back to a young high school Peter Parker/ Spider-Man also it doesn't help that it's been radio silence on any news regarding Your Friendly Neighborhood Spider-Man besides a few words on it here and there and people are starting to wonder if this show is even coming out so people are like if we can't get any news on this show and if your just leaving hanging on when it's releasing then stop wasting our time and give us Spider-Man 98
@@LewisFilmsProductionsyeah even if this show slaps it's gonna live in the shadow of a potential Spider-Man 98 and fans will hold it over this shows head
@@Exzimiusit's gonna happen regardless, because X-Men '97 opened our eyes to how Marvel can do good again with older material and we want to see that with the rest of the original animated universe
I first started reading Spider-Man comics in the late ‘80s, when he was married to Mary Jane and treated like an adult. Besides his age, let’s not forget that the show ended on a huge open ending. Mary Jane all of a sudden just being back in a cameo in X-Men 97 with no explanation on how/when Peter found her isn’t good enough. That story needs a proper solution.
Well, i'm not everyone. Personally, I never grew up with spiderman 98. MY childhood spidey cartoon was spectacular spiderman. I'm not saying I don't like spiderman 98, I just never watched it. Should i? I'm just looking forward to your friendly neighborhood spiderman because it's something new. But that's just me.
The 90’s series is definitely worth a watch because it adapts many of the classic storylines and Peter grows and matures by the series finale. And the Raimi films burrowed heavily from the show. It doesn’t top spectacular, but it’s worthy to stand alongside it
Oh shut up, X-Men 97 doesnt prove that we want a return of all the 90s animated shows, it proves we want good animated marvel content created by artist who arent constrained by the MCU's strict tone and continuity, if freshman year is good we should support it, its as simple as that
You didn’t watch the video did you hon? Buddy is literally going through both sides of the argument for and against canning SMFMY and mulling over why the internet feel that way also you really can’t say the writing or anything to do with it is bad or lazy because it’s not even out yet
I don't mind which era of Peter's life it is, so long as it's a good show. I totally understand the fatigue with 3 back to back HS era series, the latter 2 being just awful. It was revolutionary when SSM did it. I wouldn't mind college or young adult Spider-Man in a show. Like what the MTV series tried to do, but good.
Agree. It's actually importan how the Story of this Show is, if the Story is not good enough well written than no mather witch age the main character is (kid, Teenager or adult) than is the Show not really worth to watch.
How is fnsm a mistake when it not out yet? I really want to see this show! I was hyped when it was first announced. I would love to see Friendly neighborhood Spider-Man. I would love to see Spider-Man 98 or Spectacular Spider-Man but I can’t wait to see FNSM.
At this point people are sick and tired of Peter Parker / Spider-Man set around in high school and just be a cash in with the MCU, and wanted an older and mature spider-man series like the 90s cartoon. And with the success of X-Men 97, everyone wanted a Spider-Man 98 with classic Spider-Man stories and recognized characters that you love instead Freshyear since nobody cares about it. But hopefully Spider-Man 98 stick the shows universe.
I didn’t mean to break it down right now but… I’m kind of in the same level as everyone of rather have Spider-Man 98 over Friendly Neighborhood Spider-Man but for a personal reason. When I heard Friendly Neighborhood Spider-Man is gonna take place where Peter just entered as freshman high school, honestly I don’t need to see that. I didn’t like my middle school & my freshman year at high school as a kid growing up so having a tv adaptation narrating about those generations just doesn’t feel right. I want a story about Spider-Man that goes forward, not backwards.
Also both Spider-Man 98 & Freshman Year are feeding two DIFFERENT demographics. ‘98 are for people who may be older and want a more mature follow-up to the 90’s series they grew up with. Helps that Peter is also an adult. Freshman Year would be more “coming of age”, characters are younger, etc. (including the Nico from Runaways cameo)
Yes. I'm tired of seeing Peter in high school. Also, I'm not interested in an alternate version of MCU Peter with characters that, again, do not look like in nothing with their comic counterparts. Make a continuation of the 1994 cartoon is not only the most logical thing to do, but also because it's also a lot better story wise.
I get why certain fan's want that, but at the same time it would affect the idea of marvel animation trying to explore separate content with different animation to explore. Plus this show was already in development for a prequel then later on changed. And we gotta realize, there's gonna be more iterations for new comer's for a long time.
There was one thing that made this interesting, and that it was a MCU Spider-Man prequel that took place before Civil War going over some small scaled adventures. And they scrapped that concept, so now it’s just another high school Spider-Man story.
Personally for me nothing would make me happier but to see Spider-Man 98 yes return similar to x-men but also a bonus let Peter Parker and Mary Jane have there daughter mayday Parker spider girl alive and kicking along there side and being a family which would be really awesome and badass in my opinion.
I think that people are just sick and tired of high school Spider-Man. It's been played out at this point and there isn't anything original left to do in that era.
@@bullylowenthal2683 -Spectacular Spiderman -Ultimate Spider-Man -The Marc Web Spider-Man movies -MCU’s Spider-Man -Marvel’s Spider-Man (The cartoon after Ultimate/The last Spider-Man cartoon) The only thing that hasn’t used a high school Spider-Man since before Spectacular is Insomniac’s Spider-Man.
Bruh, fans need to STFU. It's literally their fault Daredevil' Born again had their first season episode count cut in half. No. We don't need Spider-man 98. People need to grow up.
we should've had a continuation to spiderman the animated series or spectacular spiderman but instead they are giving us something that no one asked for
I absolutely love the way you dive into and dissect the fans' viewpoints without being biased. You're the kind of Spider-Man fan which I hope there will be more: Wise, sensible, unbiased, analytical, able to judge between right and wrong Yeah, I'd love to see both Spider-Man '98 (if that really is greenlit because of how successful X-Men '97 is) and Your Friendly Neighbourhood Spider-Man do well together. I really do. But since I'm more inclined to the MCU, I've been wanting to see Your Friendly Neighbourhood Spider-Man fix and rectify some of the widely-debated issues Tom Holland's Spider-Man had until now. That is by fully showing and addressing the spider-bite origin, Uncle Ben's existence (as verbally mentioned in What If...? - Season 1, Episode 5) and how his 6 months prior to Civil War went by. Once that's done, they can diverge from the MCU Sacred Timeline and tell their own story without breaking MCU continuity.
I’m actually genuinely looking forward to Friendly Neighborhood Spider-Man, honestly. I can appreciate that it is a somewhat new and more ambitious take than in the MCU films, so I really want it to succeed. And if we get 98 as well later down the line, I would love that too. I just want to have both.
I made a video on my own channel going over some of the possible positives and negatives to reviving Spider-Man TAS. I feel like Spider-Man ‘98 would be the best place to bring to life stories from the comics that are long overdue getting adapted like “Nothing Can Stop the Juggernaut!” or KLH (though that one needs room to be set up and executed well). You can just imagine CDB’s performance would be incredibly suited for those storylines.
Solid video! Piggybacking on my last comment, I think it’s great that they wanna do the classic Spider-Man show. Them diving into the 60’s Ditko era of Spider-Man with that vintage comic-esc animation style is exciting! Due to the MCU F4 and reading Spider-Man life story, I’d love to see a Spider-Man that was young in the 1960’s. That I feel like was made for older fans. But the relatability of this isn’t there for older fans. The Avengers was always something for the adults, like Tony struggling with Alcoholism. The X-Men appeals to the outcasts. Spider-Man used to appeal to kids. But since Miles came in and modernized the character, Miles doesn’t appeal to kids anymore. Peter worked for a newspaper. Miles makes beats and listens to modern rap. Which is gonna be more in tune with the current youth? That’s why people want Spider-Man ‘98. The people who grew up with Peter are now adults, and are going to sympathize more with someone who is married or learning how to be a father. Because that’s what we are going through now. If they are trying to appeal to kids, they should do a Miles Morales show. I am excited for this show for sure! I just fail to see who the exact demographic is.
I actually really want to see your friendly neighborhood spider man. They are doing something new there. Making norman peters mentor instead of tony and when norman becomes evil the emotional weight will be amazing if done well. So i want that to happen
Freshman Year (if it does end up releasing) will be the 4th time in a row where an animated Peter Parker is in high school. Spectacular, Ultimate, and Marvel’s Spider-Man 2017 all did that and I am kinda sick of him being in high school now. Let’s see him in college or maybe a Peter who is completely done with school all together!
@@petermj1098 yeah I watched that, but that was the last Spidey cartoon to have him in college before the 3 proceeding after kept him stuck in high school. Also, yeah NPH is incredibly underrated as Spider-Man
Yes freshman year is a mistake. Since x-men 97 was such a huge success, What Disney needs to do is bring back avengers earths mightiest heroes and anyone between spiderman the animated series or spectacular Spider-Man. Personally I like Spider-Man the animated series better than spectacular but I would bring spectacular back over tas because this gives more creative freedom cause all these projects would be taking place in different universes. X-men 97 in one universe, avengers emh is part of another alternate universe, and spectacular Spider-Man is off in his own universe. And yes because Disney has freshman year already finished basically and wouldn’t want 2 competing shows than there’s a fix to that. Release a brand new season of avengers emh in the mean time. So we have x-men 97, avengers emh, and Spider-Man freshman year. Once F year is done that do a spectacular Spider-Man
Personally I don't have nostalgia for SMTAS since I just watched it through a few months ago. The same with Spectacular Spider-man. However I want both of them much more then this. Not gonna let that ruin my experience with this one however since I can't change it anyway
I don't want a Spiderman 98 series. I just want an ending. A final movie where Spiderman finds MJ and then they get married back home. Skip forward in time and show Peter training his daughter Mayday Parker as Spidergirl. Simple.
I have seen spidey in high school for so long that IDK Ill stick with insomniacs spidey because they actually make him grow and maybe even get out of the bad financial situation he is in
I guess we are all sick of new Spider-men. We want 90's Peter to come back, we want to see an experimented Spider-man in new awesome adventures. Besides the show from 90's was truly great. He introduced for the first time the ideea of multiverse and also the idea of a shared universe like the Mcu nowadays. John Semper already said that he would be verry happy to continue the 90's show. Please Marvel, make Spider-man 98, we need it.
Pretty sure Marvel didn't expect X-Men 97 to be as successful as it was. All the cameos fueled the love for not just Spidey, but all the 90's Marvel animated shows. If anything, I'm expecting a big team-up with all the heroes next season, most likely against Onslaught. But with FNSM, I don't see a 98 revival happening...yet. As for the new show, I'm still looking forward to it and see it as an experiment of what Marvel would have done with Spidey in the MCU if they didn't have Sony involved.
Although I'm more hopefully that Disney will redo the classic TAS, I am hopefully for this show as one of my fav artist is helping with this project and they made a BOSS issue of Spiderman called "A Study in Scarlet and Blue." That artist is Meg Syverud, check them out if you have the time. But I saw a trailer for this show at Afro Animation and I gotta say, it may not be as good as the Homecoming trilogy or an improvement on the recent Spider shows, but I am hopeful
Honestly, if I did a Spider-Man animated series, I'd have him have 1-2 seasons of high school and the rest in college. Best of both worlds. Also, either YFNSM or Spider-Man '98, I'll take both.
i still want freshman year to push through because this is a modern Spiderman story closely similar to the mcu spidey, but i also love the idea of reviving spiderman 98 series for nostalgia, i think the best move for marvel is to do both to cater both fans of the 90's and the modern spidey
How about a series focusing on Flash bullying Peter before he gets his powers? We can have episodes like "Peter Parker Gets A Swirlie" or "Flash Gives Peter's Science Textbook Chlamydia".
Certain folks at Marvel need to let go of this “Peter Parker has to be a kid” mentality. It’s holding them back from telling good stories with the character. Heck, as a kid of the late 80s/early to mid-90s many Spidey stories had him as a college student/young adult and he was still relatable to me as a reader. Where those certain people got the idea Peter Parker has to stay a teenager boggles my mind. And if any of those editors/writers are married yet they dislike Peter being married then I really have to question those folks on how they view marriage.
I mean, here’s my take on all this: I think Your Friendly Neighborhood Spiderman has a lot more to offer than people are giving it credit for. Instead of viewing it as just another highschool Spiderman show, this new series seems to be pulling from different areas of Spidey’s mythos to truly make this special. From what we’ve seen already we’ve got: •The long form animation storytelling principles of Spectacular Spiderman •The inclusion of the wider Marvel Universe much like the 90s Spiderman animated series. •Steve Ditko art style from the original comics. •The down on his luck issues we’re familiar with for this character. And you have the interesting premise of this Peter being taken under the wing of Norman Osborn, already allowing for a whole new fresh storyline. That’s really, really cool. Meanwhile, let’s look at the prospect of a Spiderman 98 show return. In my honest opinion, there’s not a whole lot to offer. They’ve already done the black suit arc, the spider mutation arc, Spiderverse stories, Secret Wars, and many many more. It’s also been confirmed that the story of Gwen Stacy already happened before the series first episode. The only loose thread we had was the very end was Peter losing MJ in the multiverse, and now it’s been confirmed through X-men 97 that he found her. So then, what’s the point of a return? What else do they really have to offer? From what I see? Nothing much. Perhaps a Kraven’s Last Hunt, maybe Superior Spider-Man arc. Maybe even kill him off and introduce Miles, as if that would make sense in this universe context. I just don’t see it really. It feels like that show did everything it set out to do. I wouldn’t be against a return, but I encourage us to actually think about this. All that said, I just feel bad for Friendly Neighborhood Spiderman. It looks like a show that’s trying to do something very special and fun, but nostalgia for the old stuff is getting in the way.
I don't see why they can't have two Spider-Man shows, we have two versions of Godzilla on the big screen and soon we'll have two versions of Batman on the big screen
Personally, I’m excited for freshman year, and I would personally rather get a new Spider-Man then go back to an old one. Although I would not mind if we could get both.
I don't think every time we need to see Peter Parker in high school all the time because there's been so many adaptation of Peter Parker in high school and him as a teenager being a superhero and being a normal adolescent so I think they should do a Spider-Man 98 Revival 0:32
Thank goodness I came across this! As for the Marvel competing with themselves, I kinda have one solution. 20 years ago in 2004, Cartoon Network aired Teen Titans alongside with Justice League (with unlimited) and later The Batman, maybe hypothetically, could be the same, kinda like when DiC made 2 Sonic the Hedgehog shows that aired at the same time. Also, I'm not sure if it counts, but what about Spidey and his amazing friends? That's also a current Spider-Man series about a young Spider-Man (with Miles and Gwen), also 2nd Spidey CG show as well. I do agree that young Spidey and in high school is still overdone and I'm ready to more adult Spidey tales with the proper stories.
“Would disney fight with themselves” avatar and endgame☠️☠️☠️ disney loves to one up their own movies😭😭so i dont doubt two spider man shows would make money and if one starts to not make as much they will just end that one and i assume it will be freshmen year but i really hope we get the spider man 90s show
As someone who did grow up watching the 90s Spider-man cartoon, I really could care less about if it comes back or not. I actually like Highschool Spider-Man and college Spider-Man. Don’t get me wrong 98 could be cool do we really need it? I never see people bringing up the other animated movies. They can focus on the cameos and occasional special episodes of X-men 97. And leave room for other characters to get other shows.
Tbh what i want is a continuation of spectacular spiderman. I know its not possible because of rights or something but i dont mind a reboot in the same spirit. Id also like to see either a series set in the 60s or presented day that uses adaptions of older stories. It would be cool to see brand new villians instead of the ones we already know. Like prowler could be the anti spiderman. They could also do something with caliban
That's terrible, cause it would mean we won't get any different artstyle with separate content. Cuz last time I checked, many cartoon fans he been begging for more originals
@spideyguy3315 We can have that though. The 90s animated stuff had crossovers and different art styles and animation. Plus we could just have 2 Spiderman cartoons running
This may sound stupid but why do I feel like the events of this show is gonna tie in with the Secret Wars reboot. And essentially change MCU Spidey's origin story.
I want a Spider-Man unlimited continuation it’s already a continuation of the 90s show and it has the most unique and original Spider-Man story ever made
Yeah I’m really disappointed by what the show has become. Originally it was supposed to be the origin of Tom’s Spider-Man set in the main MCU timeline showing his first year of highschool with him getting bit, learning how to be Spider-Man, inventing his web shooters, meeting Ned, and fighting his first few villains. I was also hoping that the show was going to see Peter dealing with more personal rather than external problems with an example being dealing with the loss of uncle Ben with Aunt May and having the show focus on the rebuilding of their relationship.
If anything I think what we’re getting is better. It isn’t held down by the restrictions of the mcu. Meaning that all our favourite characters can show up
Nah, it'd just be banking on nostalgia that 40 year olds have. X-Men is different, it was actually heralded as one of the best comic book adaptations + the absolute DROUGHT of X-Men content in mainstream media. That and Deadpool 3 hype for Wolverine all kinda makes a perfect storm for X-Men 97. Spider-Man is swimming in content. It's better to have a different take with a wider cast of characters and different art style
no but seriously why is there no adaptation of kravens last hunt one of the most iconic spiderman comics just bc we cant have anything about a married spiderman
If it was more complicated for it. Yes, I didn't like what they did to Harry I just think it's dumb like if you want. African American characters or characters of color you could just add them onto on. I'm to the TV show ofr cartoon. I just feel like this thing that we have to raceswap Every well-known character so
They wasted years on this show when they could have given the fana exactly what they want with Spectacular Spider-man or Spider-man 98. Personally, I'm tired of young Spider-man stories. Marvel refuses to let Peter grow and mature.
@BoldDude951 it is possible marvel/disney has the animation rights yes.... but there are exceptions for sony. Marvel/disney can use Spider-Man in animated series UNDER 45 minutes. Sony can use Spider-Man in animated projects OVER 45 minutes... hence the Spider-verse films. If Sony really wanted to they could just release theatrical films continuing the spectacular Spider-Man story... or just do what Warner bros does and release straight to video/streaming animated movies. Knowing Sony they aren't doing that 😂😂😂
Also I hope we don't have to see the origin story with Uncle Ben and his "with great power" speech all over again. I get that it's integral to the character but at this point literally everybody knows it
This isn't going to happen, unfortunately. Spider-Man as a character hasn't been allowed to grow both in the comics and outside them for the last 20 years or so. Whenever they get too close to showing Peter graduating from high school, getting a job and settling down, they'll just cancel the project and do another one telling the same story. Peter Parker's name should be changed to Peter Pan, because he's the character that's never gonna be allowed to grow. The fact that we have Jonathan Hickman's Ultimate Spider-Man is a miracle. Unfortunately, Spider-Man '98 is never getting greenlit, and the marriage also isn't coming back
Is it a mistake? No. Because if they want to do Spider-Man ‘98 they can always just also do that too. It’s not like Spidey and His Amazing Friends is stopping other Spider-Man and Marvel cartoons from being made. Theoretically the target audience would probably be different for Spider-Man Freshman Year and a Spider-Man cartoon that’s a continuation of a cartoon that ended 26 years ago. Freshman Year is also visually pretty different than the ‘90s Spider-Man cartoon, and is about a Peter Parker that’s a pretty different age. X-Men ‘97 almost seems like part of the selling point pitch was that, if successful, they could use the cartoon as a springboard to bring back the Fox Spider-Man cartoon and basically do a new version of the Marvel Action Hour. Like they could pretty easily launch Spider-Man, Avengers, and Fantastic Four cartoons out of X-Men ‘97. X-Men ‘97 brought up an ‘90s Avengers comic related event definitional once, (maybe twice) and the events of next season tie into some that at least in the comics involves the Fantastic Four.
We'll if they do ever revive the 90s Spider-Man show here's what may or may not be such a good idea for it, they could have Flash Thompson become Toxins host as a nod to Agent Venom, since I doubt they'd want Eddie Brock to ever not be Venom in that show.
Because we don't want more MCU slop. (it doesn't help that they've announced this after the hype of No Way Home, and now all that Hype has died down) Moreover, I just want something with a more unique voice, like With AEMH or X-Men '97
I have no real desire to see a cartoon based on the movies. It's an adaptation of an adaptation. Cut out the middle man and give me something new. I'm tired of MCU synergy taking over everything.
It's just confusing is it supposed to be toms spiderman origin or not? And if so does this mean his norman Osborne is dead just like tobey version of the character? And why won't they make a movie on it instead of making it animated tom clearly looks young enough to play a 15 year old.
