Is Stable Diffusion WebUI Forge Just Plain Better Than A1111 WebUI?

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Stable-Diffusion-WebUI-Forge is just plain better than Automatic1111. There. I said it :p Why? Well, performance and resource usage to start with. Even better still, some of the oldest bugs related to model loading have gone, plus you get loads of stuff just built right in! All that complete with the familiar A1111 WebUI gradio interface. Sure seems better to me!
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@Vestu 7 месяцев назад

Finally an UI for us who are not full-time unemployed in order to master ComfyUI

@Milo_Estobar 2 месяца назад

I think the frustration comes from tutorial youtuber keep gaslighting by saying "easier/simple"

@CGFUN829 2 месяца назад

@@Milo_Estobar i just tried forge ui and it faster

@Andro-Meta 7 месяцев назад

I had just installed this fork and I'd definitely be interested in seeing a video of you exploring some of these built-in features further :) Some really cool stuff in here.

@rifz42 7 месяцев назад

haha I thought A1111 just got screwed up after using it for a while. I didn't know it was from changing models, thanks!!

@DrMacabre 7 месяцев назад

Long time user of A1111 and ComfyUI, i'm truly impressed. You can run turbo models, generating 832x1024 in less than a second on 3090 but even better, you can crank up to 1640x2048, generate in less than 5 seconds and no VRAM implosion. I'm not sure if it's a good idea to change branch on my original a1111 though, i run forge on a new install, just symlinked my models and extension folders. Just wow 🎉

@xXxDisplayNamexXx 7 месяцев назад

I can do the same on a 3060, this is definitely the new go to WebUI for me

@DrMacabre 7 месяцев назад

@@xXxDisplayNamexXx don't remove a1111 yet, deforum and animatediff are not fully working in forge.

@PunxTV123 7 месяцев назад

@@DrMacabre what folders did you symlink?

@DrMacabre 7 месяцев назад

@@PunxTV123the whole "models", i ended up leaving a1111 extension alone as some are specific for forge like animatediff.

@unknownuser3000 7 месяцев назад

Holy shit. I no joke was about to go install automatic1111 since I haven't used in a year or so since I have fallen in love with instantid, but this is awesome!!! Hope it's easy to set up and use I know what I'm doing this afternoon. Thanks!

@Elwaves2925 7 месяцев назад

While I'll definitely be giving this a go, I've never had the issues you mention with A1111 but that's me. This Forge does come with some nice features built in and the other plus side is that settings will easily transfer across, along with a couple of extensions that aren't default. Nice one.

@KiraSlith 25 дней назад

The bugs started with mainline A1111 1.8.0 onwards. Mainline has been suffering technical debt issues since SDXL support was rushed in and has only gotten worse since. I stayed on vanilla 1.8.0 until switching to Forge, and you have to restart after switching between SD and SDXL on 1.8.0, but at least it doesn't have miserable performance on top of that like later versions.

@DreamFilmVFX 7 месяцев назад

I can't believe it!!! thank you! i have a poor RTX3050 4GB VRAM, since the last A1111, i can run the sdxl but for generating a single image it was used to take about 10 minutes. Now with this release, an image will be generated in 2 minutes!! JUST WOW!! JUST THANK YOU

@anushdsouza9632 7 месяцев назад

2 min is still too much may be sticking to comfyui

@DreamFilmVFX 7 месяцев назад

yes. depend of your hardware. maybe in your case it's better. but for my case comfyui it's pretty slow. Personally i like ComfyUi, but (for now at least) ForgeUi, gives me better performance (for my case and uses)@@anushdsouza9632

@z1mt0n1x2 7 месяцев назад

Sounds like you're generating from your CPU. I was making sd15 images with me RX570 4GB which is much older than your 3050, and it only took me 40 seconds, and that's using the DirectML version which is even slower than using CUDA.

@DreamFilmVFX 7 месяцев назад

wait.. are you talking about SDXL right? but i've now remade the calculation, it tooks 1 minute and 20 sec.. for a SDXL 1280x968 and adetailer enabled@@z1mt0n1x2

@nenadm5747 7 месяцев назад

@@z1mt0n1x2How can I run Forge with Amd card?

@weirdscix 7 месяцев назад

Looks interesting, I hardly use a1111 these days, preferring comfyi but I will check this out

@666Counterforce 7 месяцев назад

This is really nice - works way faster with my 8GB VRAM ! Thank you ! 👍👍👍

@Gh0sty.14 7 месяцев назад

Would you say it's comparable to fooocus?

@NerdyRodent 7 месяцев назад

Glad to hear it!

@lechefski 7 месяцев назад

@@NerdyRodent Hey Nerdy, how does performance compare to comfy? And do you prefer this ui over comfy atm?

@elias_itst 7 месяцев назад

interesting. what i'd like to know is what makes Forge that faster ? is there any drawback to it ? is it forced non-deterministic 'x-formers' ot things like that, or is it definitely faster with the same parameters vs comfyui & A1111 ?

@vanteal 7 месяцев назад

I hope Stability matrix adds this package.

@V.966 7 месяцев назад

Your voice is so amazing , you deserve to be a movie actor

@TheColonelJJ 7 месяцев назад

How the hell do we keep up? LOL I'm on my 4th UI for SD in 120 days? Dizzy...🙃

@benharris144 7 месяцев назад

Crazy, isn't it? Exciting though, no doubt!

@Elwaves2925 7 месяцев назад

You don't. You find the one that works for what you want, then keep using that. You only change when something comes along with a must have feature or update you don't have. That way you only change every so often.

@worthstream 7 месяцев назад

Heh, the awesome world of state of the art software. If it makes it better, think that text generation moves even faster than image generation. A new texgen ui comes out every day, it looks like.

@birdfingers354 7 месяцев назад

Learn the skills, not the software.

@Vestu 7 месяцев назад

Just don't switch to every kew thing but rather have an interval where you update your environment, like 4 months

@OwOUwUOnO 3 месяца назад

I was impressed how quickly the Forge variant created generations within seconds, with the A1111 version. I'd end up getting error issues with my memory even though I have 16GB of RAM & GeForce2060 Super. Usually I am so use to waiting about 2 minutes, sometimes 17 minutes as well with A1111

@runebinder 7 месяцев назад

Thanks, followed the Ananconder install video first and then this and was able to install it using the full install method with no issues. I've not used Anaconda before and been using portables. Might have to do the same with ComfyUI as I'm guess it has the same pros.

@libertyguy2322 6 месяцев назад

Regular A1111 had issues. VRam spiking and crashing the program and parts of old model retained. This Forge variant controls the memory much better, with no more spikes and no more crashes. The previous model is now completely cleared and there is indeed a speed improvement, in my case of around 20 percent, making it slightly faster than even Comfy now. I'm very happy with Forge.

@RedMageGaming 7 месяцев назад

Holy crap, I've been using Easy Diffusion, because well it was an easy one click install, I figured my old 2080 Super was the reason for how slow it was, This runs circles around it. 2 to 3 minute single image generations, are now completing in like 20 to 30 seconds. And my GPU now actually sounds like it's cranking into high gear when I run it. And it doesn't absolutely hog my VRAM. This is such an upgrade.

@BenjyDale 5 месяцев назад

I like your sense of humour, great video :-) I'm getting roughly a 50% speed boost on my RTX 3070

@cristianflores3665 7 месяцев назад

Finally an SD UI that doesn't crash every 5 minutes what a time to be alive.

@PaulRoneClarke 3 месяца назад

Even after almost 5 months with no updates. Forge is still MUCH faster than A1111. In my case for exactly the same task - it's a factor of about 5 or 6 times. Same sampling method, images, model, weights etc 3070 RTX 4 minutes Vs 50 seconds. It's amazing just how slow A1111 still is. 5 months and they haven't caught up at all.

@Mad4BBQ 7 месяцев назад

I stopped using A1111 for ComfyUI, there are some things that I go back to use it for, but I've gotten used to the speed of ComfyUI - I'll definintely give Forge a go.

@fdwr 7 месяцев назад

3:12 As a very savvy tech user who works on AI, writes GPU shaders as his day job, and is already very familiar with this ML ecosystem held up by sticks and glue, for the love of my time, I greatly appreciate installations that are just a few clicks - I have things to do.

@JoaoPauloDev 5 месяцев назад

Well done my friend, thank you for that, I was facing like 97% and crashes on my Nvidia 1650 Ti on a Dell Laptop now I have at top 70% and runs much more faster, thank you so much

@zerotwo7319 7 месяцев назад

Thanks rodent. I will try it.

@Nilmoraes-cm7it 7 месяцев назад

Some charitable soul to teach you how to use the A1111 repository, I've done everything changing it on the web notepad and I couldn't!

@cosh-ai-art 7 месяцев назад

I love the humor in your voice! It always gives me a good mood.

@arthurwild6563 7 месяцев назад

It's insane how much better it is compared to A1111, I went from 1 Minute for 1 High-Res Picture to 1 Minute to 5 High-Res Pictures.

@Caal76 7 месяцев назад

The entitled pessimist me is whining for realizing I've done everything wrong from the start and have to uninstall everything (Auto1111, Ooba, ST, the works) and start over and learn how to use Python environments and maybe even learn how to code while I'm at it and so much hassle just to generate images, while the adult me is slapping pessimist me and telling him to quit whining and get to work, there's nothing wrong with learning something new and useful. Oh and I hit sub. Thanks Nerdy, hope you're feeling better.

@bemusedkidney8619 7 месяцев назад

Been using it for a few days now and I'm completely converted.

@spierdlajify 7 месяцев назад

ofc it doesn't works with amd? ;)

@theairchitect 7 месяцев назад

amazing! thanks for always bring nice tips and tricks nerdy!

@kariannecrysler640 7 месяцев назад

You’re sounding better. Only a tad stuffy. So I keep hoping happy health for my rodent friend and maybe some random adventure too 😉

@NerdyRodent 7 месяцев назад

Achoo! Thanks 😄

@kariannecrysler640 7 месяцев назад

@@NerdyRodent 🤣

@matthallett4126 7 месяцев назад

I've been waiting for masks for IP Adapter.. nice find!

@TomiTom1234 7 месяцев назад

I installed it and it is indeed better and faster. Only one thing I didn't realize to get: I just wanted to try "ip-Adapter" in ControlNet, but I can't find the "ip-adapter_face_id_plus" Preprocessor because - I think - it is not updated to the last version. How can I update CN to the last version? I tried to intstall CN also but it keeps disabled because there is CN already integrated. Any idea please? I already saved the ip-Adapter models in the integrated CN Models folder, but the "Preprocessor" which is "ip-adapter_face_id_plus" isn't showing up. Is it possible to download it maybe then upload it in a specific folder inside WebUI Forge folder?

@Elwaves2925 7 месяцев назад

I'm having the same issue. I hadn't thought of it not being updated but I think my Forge ControlNet version is higher than my A1111 version - I'll have to double check as they aren't the exact same extension now. I was assuming the preprocessor wasn't being picked up because it was in the wrong folder but putting it in built-in ControlNet folders didn't solve anything. Please shout up if you find a solution and I'll do the same. 🙂 BTW, there are downloads for it under one of Sebastian Kamph's latest vids.

@saranmt1 7 месяцев назад

@@Elwaves2925 having the same issue!

@Elwaves2925 7 месяцев назад

@@saranmt1 It's listed as a high priority bug on the github, so there's nothing we ca do for now. It may already be fixed if I can understand github correctly but it's not released yet. Keep checking there for an update. 🙂

@bitterjuice 6 месяцев назад

u need to change .bin to .pth

@gorohk 7 месяцев назад

What about Nsfw ?

@EmmaFitzgerald-dp4re 7 месяцев назад

Love it, can finally run SXDL in webUI with my 8GB card.. and agreed no blasted memory issues

@coloryvr 7 месяцев назад

WOW! ....very cool! I share your enthusiasm!

@ysy69 7 месяцев назад

thanks for making this tutorial and bringing this new alternative to our attention. I was going thru their repo. It is very tempting. Will give it a bit more time to mature before forging ahead.

@AlbertoCasanova 7 месяцев назад

this repo is as functional as the original one, try it now.

@ysy69 7 месяцев назад

@@AlbertoCasanova okay

@ysy69 7 месяцев назад

@@AlbertoCasanova I need to safe hd space! Should I delete my a1111 and install Forge ?

@jeffthompson1869 7 месяцев назад

This might be a noob question: Forge is based on A1111 - and BOTH REQUIRE CUDA graphics cards to work right? There is a CUDA substitute called ZLUDA FOR AMD GRAPHICS CARDS. HOW DO YOU GET FORGE TO WORK WITH AMD GPU AND ZLUDA? IS THIS AN OVERLY COMPLEX THING TO DO? I believe that there would be a lot of people who would be interested in a solution.

@NerdyRodent 7 месяцев назад

While it’s true that Linux + Nvidia is the best combo, A1111 works on AMD and even Intel CPU / GPUs too!

@Black-fq9il 7 месяцев назад

Been testing a bunch of UIs and Forge is the real deal, really polished.

@bladechild2449 7 месяцев назад

couldn't go back to A1111 after it seemed to constantly break itself during updates, and confyUI was just way quicker, but way more annoying to use. Forge is a godsend

@DeathMasterofhell15 7 месяцев назад

your mom as a cute rodent had me laughing

@serioserkanalname499 7 месяцев назад

On my tests (8gb 3070) I get images almost twice as fast as with normal a1111, but one thing confuses me: Everything the same I still get different images than in a1111, even if the github says there shouldnt be a difference.

@Fikri0o0 7 месяцев назад

are u sure u using the same settings and seed?

@SkrekkLich 7 месяцев назад

Nice! thanks for the video! Does the A1111 maintainer not merge Pull Requests regarding the issues hence someone decided to fork it and fix the base?

@ElmerAstorga-ih3th 7 месяцев назад

Just upgraded to the pro version of Forge totally worth it what a beast.

@WhySoBroke 7 месяцев назад

Great overview video!! I am trying to figure out where to place upscale models... do you know folder location?

@TheConfusedOne101 7 месяцев назад

But...is it good for AMD gpu? Please tell me it's good so i don't have to buy another card

@zyxyuv1650 7 месяцев назад

Does Forge fix the problem with Gradio's painting component being so limited you can't even erase from a mask?

@jankvis 7 месяцев назад

THX for this, much appreciated ! I just can't get use to the spaghetti comfy-ui even if it's much better so for me this is sweet music. I have tested it a bit and surely, it's faster (running on a 4090) and the ability to use masking in controlnet is fantastic. Thanks and I hope you post some more on WebUI Forge...

@pathworker2010 7 месяцев назад

Downloaded it last night(17/02/24), this one is going to replace ALL my other tools, I'm running a modest setup and this thing is blazingly fast!!(20 images in approximately 10 minutes)

@arthurwild6563 7 месяцев назад

Hm, Photomaker doesn't seem to work at all. How did you get it to run?

@FabioAngela 7 месяцев назад

what about teaching followers how to setup a docker container for these OSS sources? I always find it scary that people run third party code without a shred of fear, at least docker puts everything in a sandbox

@Chocolemur 7 месяцев назад

Well, the new Lora Tab make it completely unusable for me : The loss of the "folder" button for a cumbersome "tree view" is... Why , Just why ?

@wakegary 7 месяцев назад

does the fun ever really "stop there" with NeRo? I think not.

@narcizyzzt 7 месяцев назад

''your mom as a cute rodent'' got me 😭😭

@petef15 7 месяцев назад

So much better for low-mid tier PCs. Easy install too.

@Legnog822 7 месяцев назад

Forge is very painless! thanks for the recomendation

@ohnoitsaninja 6 месяцев назад

I got into automatic1111 because of this video, but gave up forge for the original. Forge has lots of issues I dont see with the original

@sociallyresponsiblexenomor7608 7 месяцев назад

Neat, well I can't even get as far as downloading it because the file seems to be corrupt lol.

@birdfingers354 7 месяцев назад

Did you use 7Zip to unpack it?

@dkemil 7 месяцев назад

waiting for the comfyui node of whatever this is doing

@loubakalouba 7 месяцев назад

Excellent! Thank you.

@robertgoldbornatyout 7 месяцев назад

please can some one help ,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,Dose it work on AMD gpu,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,, thanks

@4.0.4 7 месяцев назад

Interesting, hopefully all those changes get implemented upstream by A1111. I don't see a reason for the codebase to be split if there aren't breaking changes.

@itycagameplays 7 месяцев назад

I've installed it today and it is faster than A1111 on my RTX 3070. It uses less V-RAM.

@MrSporf 6 месяцев назад

Cracking video. Thanks!

@NerdyRodent 6 месяцев назад

Glad you enjoyed it

@Wolfdua 7 месяцев назад

I personally never had problems with changing models in A1111, is it only with SDXL models?

@Elwaves2925 7 месяцев назад

I haven't either and that's with 1.5 and SDXL models. I constantly switch between Realistic Vision and RealVisXL while keeping the same prompt.

@jdesanti76 7 месяцев назад

@thebonuslvl 7 месяцев назад

neither did i but i understand what he's saying with that with each change it didnt release your ram, thereby stacking up and making things slower. I watch vids on my second screen and they stutter on my 4070ti while i generate images on A1111, this isn't an issue with comfyui or now Forge for me which is much more user friendly than comfyui and was the main reason i still used A1111..

@Nine-Signs 2 дня назад

animatediff doesnt work, along with a boat load of other extensions 😔

@janmatejka646 7 месяцев назад

I wanted to switch to ComfyUi. Do you still recomend using comfy when forge is released? (I have A1111 skill)

@PaulByrd1 7 месяцев назад

I use both. I would recommend diving into Comfy Ui because you can learn a lot about backend settings and control over every aspect of AI image rendering

@janmatejka646 7 месяцев назад

@@PaulByrd1 and what about speed? Thanks

@RodgerE2472 7 месяцев назад

And a lot better Name!!!

@phonebackup2083 6 месяцев назад

Img2Img doesn't really work for me with Forge. It always spits out a mess or a lower quality.

@abhinavbisht9851 7 месяцев назад

loras dont load up.....

@chyldstudios 7 месяцев назад

... a cross between auto1111 and something that works! ha!

@intelligenceservices 3 месяца назад

webui-forge and a1111 are great ways to discover more errors than you ever thought were possible, IF you can manage to even install them. and to make matters even more interesting, A1111 is being maintained and webui-forge is not. I've got a 12GB card and it's not enough even though their troubleshooting wiki has examples for 4GB card users. --lowvram nor --medvram worked, --xformers will never be installed, ipadapter v2 will never install, etc. Changing checkpoints will freeze the whole computer, just loads of learning experiences. No idea what they're thinking.

@kavellion 7 месяцев назад

Back to a1111 and leave the noodle insanity behind thank God.

@yasen_stoev 7 месяцев назад

Hey i've spent about 4 hours trying to get PhotoMaker to work but just cant seem to get it working. It doesn't seem to do anything to my image even when I include the photomaker prompt. I Cant seem to find where the clip vision (photomaker) file is in the folder and I'm guessing could be a problem... anyone been able to get it working?

@zentrans 6 месяцев назад

same here

@dzordzkeko2608 7 месяцев назад

Good stuff, did some fast testing and on mine 1070 I went from ~1.1it/s to ~1.4it/s and in HiresFix from ~6.5s/it to ~5.5s/it (working on 512x768 HiresX2 1024x1536). ~27% and ~15% performance boost vs VladDiffusion, impressive I will update Vlad to latest version and check if Forge advantage still holds, and probably switch. I just couldn't find Model/loras paths settings so I guess if I want to use it with Vlad as backup I will have to copy all models/loras to Forge and change paths in Vlad.

@petpo-ev1yd 6 месяцев назад

How to run instant-ID in forge?????

@jenniferrosashernandez 7 месяцев назад

I second that.

@4thObserver 7 месяцев назад

Forge is Blindingly fast. Before I used to make one dozen 512x512 images would take me 1 minute. Now I make 768x768 and 1024x1024 images under 5 seconds with the newer LCM models.

@matthallett4126 7 месяцев назад

Hey NR, do you scripts your videos? Or work in sections and edit as you go?

@motherofallemails 7 месяцев назад

Actually huge thanks to video maker, Installed this webui Forge and it is indeed AMAZING!! Simply marvelous!

@voxtyz 7 месяцев назад

i can't load SDXL, When i tried to load SDXL it's says just " Press any key to continue . .."

@sirvanz 7 месяцев назад

Nice! from lllyasviel auto INSTALL! That fooocus to Forge!

@justinwhite2725 7 месяцев назад

... But is it better than comfy?

@thedevilgames8217 6 месяцев назад

when changing model cmd crash. i have to lunch it every time i change model. any help?

@TheRegelation 6 месяцев назад

What about AnimateDiff + Controlnet via Forge Webui?

@nickjonas-ze8mm 7 месяцев назад

what kind of program you use for symbolic link ?

@nokodemusic 6 месяцев назад

You can create symbolic links in the CMD with mklink command lines

@CoconutPete 7 месяцев назад

Can't get LORA's to load with Forge... anyone have this issue?

@ersenkele 6 месяцев назад

After switching to Forge UI, I can't activate "ReActor". Is this still an issue? Any leads fellas?

@2thecurve 7 месяцев назад

Can't run deforum or mov2mov though. So in generating images faster it is.

@michaellightjr6111 7 месяцев назад

Doesnt work for me. I get an error saying torch is not able to use gpu

@sparks1943 7 месяцев назад

installed fine and ran in img2img but text2img gives TypeError: 'NoneType' object is not iterable.. any ideas appreciated.. I'm running on AMD GPU

@Elwaves2925 7 месяцев назад

For me, I had the parameters for filenames wrong in the settings for image saving. If you've altered it you might want to check that.

@nenadm5747 7 месяцев назад

@sparks1943 Can you tell me what I have to do to make it work on my Amd gpu? Thank you 😊

@sparks1943 7 месяцев назад

I could not get it to work on AMD in the end I reinstalled the Ishqqytiger version and reinstall torch-directml with pip@@nenadm5747

@GS195 6 месяцев назад

I can't get the t2iadapter controlnet for style to work in this. I don't have the clipvision preprocessor and it's not automatically downloaded when I try to use it.

@motionthings 7 месяцев назад

A .sh file is a "shell script", that's what you call it

@BoyanOrion 7 месяцев назад

Made a joke about the dot SsHHa earlier and then my comment got deleted lol. TBH, I found it amusing and funny in a good way about how he pronounced it throughout the video.

@motionthings 7 месяцев назад

He wants us "to learn" and not just do, he can learn from us too. Unintentional rhyme @@BoyanOrion

@magnusberge 7 месяцев назад

This thing lets me run SDXL on hires fix 2x without my machine even blinking!

@HeadFirstThorfi 7 месяцев назад

why they do not create a pull request ? This going to create a division and lose many updates and new feature from the original tool.

@TheColonelJJ 7 месяцев назад

Oops... update.bat calls environmental.bat which gives an error. 🙄 Ah... fixed it. VPN security blocked the bat. Running now, and wow, it is faster than Fooocus or Automatic 1111! Intel i-7 and MSI 3060 OC 12Gig and 32Gig RAM.

@servbotz 7 месяцев назад

How does this compare with vladmandic's SD.Next? Is it worth switching over to Forge?

@eastsidejapan109 7 месяцев назад

did any one else have control net inpaint model not work. the model doesnt load and can use inpaint feature. how can fix?

@markbillson4919 7 месяцев назад

1060 6GB VRAM (same prompt and image size 512x768) - Auto1111 [A: 2.81GB] [R: 3.37 GB] [Sys: 4.4/6GB] Time 34.5 sec WebUI Forge [A: 3.63GB] [R: 4.13GB] [Sys: 5.4/6GB] Time: 32.8 sec