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Is SuperSEGA FPGA Vaporware? Here’s New Dreamcast FPGA Details 

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SuperSEGA FPGA sent me an email today with a link to a RU-vid livestream. Not sure if it was just for "press" or public? But it was demoing footage of their WIP Sega Dreamcast FPGA core...the same core that MARS FPGA wants to get running...but the demo left me with more questions than answers...so let's talk about the Super Sega FPGA teams Dreamcast FPGA demo...because its certainly not going to be a MiSTer FPGA core! and now SuperSEGA FPGA has grown to be two models? what is even going on? The MiSTer FPGA alternative space grows...more confusing!
When enough of you keep asking me the same questions I try to listen...and normally thats about MARS FPGA...but today its SuperSega FPGA...or Super Sega FPGA depending on where you read the name; a new FPGA gaming device ala MiSTer FPGA that is promising Sega Dreamcast FPGA cores along with Sega Genesis, Sega Saturn, Sega Master System and more! But is it real? Can they pull it off? What gaming hardware is it using? Because we already have up to the MiSTer FPGA Sega Saturn core working today...so that's SuperSega FPGA all about? Or Super Sega FPGA that is? Will it play the best Sega Dreamcast games? Will it be a Dreamcast console?
and now more details have emerged including a Super Sega FPGA price as well as other interesting bits of information like when you should expect to see a prototype...and now games apparently running on prototype FPGA hardware? Hard to say if its using MiSTer FPGA cores? it's own cores? I really don't know! And now there is a $3 pre order coming? MiSTer FPGA alternatives are getting confusing
But there are a ton of Dreamcast hidden gems, NAOMI hidden gems, IGS PGM hidden gems...and more! So playing them in FPGA one day in the future could totally be fun!
• JULIO 2024 - SUPER SEG...
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@ViegasSilva
@ViegasSilva 4 дня назад
Senator Vreenak in *Star Trek: Deep Space Nine* - "It's a faaaaaaake!"
@VideoGameEsoterica
@VideoGameEsoterica 4 дня назад
Haha now they are going to be offering three dollar preorders too. You know I’m gonna get that for a vid
@kosmosyche
@kosmosyche 4 дня назад
Feels more like a scamware tbh
@VideoGameEsoterica
@VideoGameEsoterica 4 дня назад
Well so far they aren’t asking for any real money so that can’t really be said with any real certainty
@ManiacalMoogle
@ManiacalMoogle 4 дня назад
Awesome reference
@VideoGameEsoterica
@VideoGameEsoterica 4 дня назад
It was
@beeaye7944
@beeaye7944 4 дня назад
I'm old enough to remember the Infinium Labs Phantom.
@VideoGameEsoterica
@VideoGameEsoterica 4 дня назад
Same
@joesaiditstrue
@joesaiditstrue 3 дня назад
do you remember the hardocp article that Kyle Bennet wrote about the Phantom and then got sued for writing it?
@VideoGameEsoterica
@VideoGameEsoterica 3 дня назад
No can’t say that I do
@lordbacon4972
@lordbacon4972 4 дня назад
You've identified many red flags and classic vaporware characteristics with this project. If it walks like a duck...
@VideoGameEsoterica
@VideoGameEsoterica 4 дня назад
I hope it tastes like a duck. A roast one lol
@SmallSpoonBrigade
@SmallSpoonBrigade 3 дня назад
We'll see, but everything is vaporware until it's actually released. That being said, I'm not personally optimistic, especially due to them claiming to have an FPGA Dreamcast core that works this well. But, I wouldn't personally cry vaporware yet.
@VideoGameEsoterica
@VideoGameEsoterica 3 дня назад
They have to show hardware with it running something for anyone to take it seriously
@deusprogrammer_thekingofspace
@deusprogrammer_thekingofspace 3 дня назад
Colecolecolecolecoleco Chameleon.
@VideoGameEsoterica
@VideoGameEsoterica 3 дня назад
Haha kinda similar vibes
@BenMelluish
@BenMelluish 3 дня назад
I think the DB9 icon is actually just illustrative of "controller port" and that the USB logos either side of them are telling us that every port/controller is USB. So it's janky but is: Controller port 1 - USB | Controller port 2 - USB | Controller port 3 - USB | Controller port 4 - USB
@VideoGameEsoterica
@VideoGameEsoterica 3 дня назад
So hard to say but perhaps
@ReallyBadJuJu
@ReallyBadJuJu 4 дня назад
Honestly, dreamcast is about as far as I need to go with fpga, and even then, we're getting so close to the console being a glorified PC that a well configured emulator on a decently spec'd PC is not gonna be terribly different than the hardware experience. It's not like the old days with bespoke consoles programmed in assembly.
@VideoGameEsoterica
@VideoGameEsoterica 4 дня назад
Yes anything past Dreamcast would just be pretty non-essential as software emulation better serves it
@jeremygregorio7472
@jeremygregorio7472 4 дня назад
I can see a case to be made for everything up through the GameCube. once you get into the 360 era You're dealing with high definition games designed for a LCD so lag is no longer an issue
@VideoGameEsoterica
@VideoGameEsoterica 4 дня назад
Even GCN/Xbox/PS2 more benefit from software than FPGA imo
@midosyt
@midosyt 4 дня назад
would they really? i mean the ps2 has been a bitch to emulate throughout the years ​@@VideoGameEsoterica
@VideoGameEsoterica
@VideoGameEsoterica 4 дня назад
The reality is a ps2 core would take years and a team of people
@MarkCurtis-u6o
@MarkCurtis-u6o 4 дня назад
Just get emulator developers to allow for commercial sale of a machine that is licensed by Sega. There's no need for a SuperSega fpga.
@VideoGameEsoterica
@VideoGameEsoterica 4 дня назад
A Dreamcast mini would be great
@simon41978
@simon41978 3 дня назад
I tried connecting my Gaming PC to Tink 4K and running Flycast. The colours were off and the scanlines weren't right. For this reason, I'd like to see Dreamcast on FPGA one day. I don't see it as a superfluous thing. My GDEMU is great but Dreamcast video output has loads of dithering patterns all over the screen. Even at it's best, it's a mediocre output... which FPGA could fix.
@VideoGameEsoterica
@VideoGameEsoterica 3 дня назад
It would be fun to see a core
@Pawnband
@Pawnband 4 дня назад
I say just get a dreamcast, ODE, VGA cable, and enjoy. If this projects materializes, great. If not, who cares.
@VideoGameEsoterica
@VideoGameEsoterica 4 дня назад
I’d tend to ageee
@Vvewa
@Vvewa 3 дня назад
yep, I already have a supersega, mister + real dreamcast
@VideoGameEsoterica
@VideoGameEsoterica 3 дня назад
@Vvewa haha it does the job!
@METR0lD
@METR0lD 4 дня назад
You know what, I actually nearly forgot that this was a thing. 😅
@VideoGameEsoterica
@VideoGameEsoterica 4 дня назад
They love to pop up and remind us
@_BELMONT_
@_BELMONT_ 4 дня назад
great video VGE thank you!
@VideoGameEsoterica
@VideoGameEsoterica 4 дня назад
Happy to do it
@nickiebanchou
@nickiebanchou 3 дня назад
FPGAs are such a buzz nowadays .... i'm super happy we got MiSTer clones now because i don't trust MARS to be real all that much, and even less this SUPERSPICIOUS device.... any minute now they might announce they also have AI in it or something ffs 🙃
@VideoGameEsoterica
@VideoGameEsoterica 3 дня назад
Yes you will def see a lot more people try to release something FPGA as it’s not reached mainstream gaming consciousness
@Charlie-Cat.
@Charlie-Cat. 4 дня назад
Oh wow! I forgot about this VGE. Thank you for keeping this fresh for us to continue following it bro. 8^)
@VideoGameEsoterica
@VideoGameEsoterica 4 дня назад
I’ll keep talking about it until it appears or disappears 🤷🏻‍♂️
@ofmannotmachine3012
@ofmannotmachine3012 3 дня назад
Even if this thing is fake (it likely is) it has gotta be the absolute most ugly console design ever thought up
@VideoGameEsoterica
@VideoGameEsoterica 3 дня назад
I mean it’s trying to reference something so it at least makes sense as to why it looks like that
@adrianrodriguez-iz1wr
@adrianrodriguez-iz1wr 3 дня назад
this thing gonna end up like the polymega, just emulation. while og hardware is nice, with dreamcast all mods your looking at $200+. imo id just get a series s and use dev mode. you can find it around the holidays for $200-250. then you can even run ps2, gamecube and retroarch plus some xbox-360 games
@VideoGameEsoterica
@VideoGameEsoterica 3 дня назад
If it’s software emulation then yes it really has no reason to exist
@ciaranmccarthy
@ciaranmccarthy 3 дня назад
Source: trust me bro.
@VideoGameEsoterica
@VideoGameEsoterica 3 дня назад
Kinda feeling like that
@MadsonOnTheWeb
@MadsonOnTheWeb 4 дня назад
yes
@VideoGameEsoterica
@VideoGameEsoterica 4 дня назад
Haha succinct. Love it
@Mike-B-Jackson
@Mike-B-Jackson 3 дня назад
I have no doubt this will be, at best, just a ported emulator running natively on the FPGA. No way they're doing a chip-level recreation.
@VideoGameEsoterica
@VideoGameEsoterica 3 дня назад
It’s so hard to say right now but it doesn’t seem like FPGA based work
@mirabilis
@mirabilis 3 дня назад
How the hell would you port a software emulator to anything even close to HDL? You don't know what you're talking about.
@Mike-B-Jackson
@Mike-B-Jackson 3 дня назад
@@mirabilis I’m being generous. Never said they HAVE ported anything. The reality is they've shown nothing beyond a child's sketch and an emulator running on who knows what. The amount of work required to replicate an entire dreamcast in HDL has got to be exponentially more involved than anything we've seen so far on MiSTer, and yet, somehow, they pull a fully working core out their a$$ in a matter of weeks? lol. Total vaporware.
@UberNeuman
@UberNeuman 4 дня назад
Looks legit.
@VideoGameEsoterica
@VideoGameEsoterica 4 дня назад
lol can’t tell if sarcasm or not
@matthewhall6288
@matthewhall6288 4 дня назад
@@VideoGameEsoterica The avatar will tell you...
@Robert-G
@Robert-G 2 дня назад
I think they are salty because they aren’t referred to as pregnant arnie 😂
@VideoGameEsoterica
@VideoGameEsoterica 2 дня назад
Haha the best meme on the channel
@apr2499
@apr2499 3 дня назад
How can they read GD-Roms when nobody is producing those drives? Sounds fishy to me!
@VideoGameEsoterica
@VideoGameEsoterica 3 дня назад
Yeah no real info on that yet
@soloM81
@soloM81 4 дня назад
looks like the replay2 is way ahead of everyone they are going into testing prototypes now
@VideoGameEsoterica
@VideoGameEsoterica 4 дня назад
I need to do a vid on that eventually
@angelnlbv
@angelnlbv 3 дня назад
how about online gaming ? dreamcast games. like pso2, speed devils etc?
@VideoGameEsoterica
@VideoGameEsoterica 3 дня назад
🤷🏻‍♂️ no info
@PopeTheRevXXVIII
@PopeTheRevXXVIII 4 дня назад
I'll buy the Dreamcast footage if they show them turning something on and booting up game rather than footage that could be doctored
@VideoGameEsoterica
@VideoGameEsoterica 4 дня назад
The demonstration raised more questions than it provided answers
@PopeTheRevXXVIII
@PopeTheRevXXVIII 4 дня назад
I'm not even sure Dreamcast is viable for an FPGA core. Then again nobody thought N64 was possible or Viable on MISTer
@VideoGameEsoterica
@VideoGameEsoterica 4 дня назад
It can be done. The question is how long to make a core and what FPGA chip do you need / is it economical
@cyo_corner
@cyo_corner 4 дня назад
He is loading CHD files LOL.
@VideoGameEsoterica
@VideoGameEsoterica 4 дня назад
I mean MiSTer can load CHD files so
@miguelcarneiro1192
@miguelcarneiro1192 4 дня назад
Hi, do you have any clue about when MARS will be lounched?
@VideoGameEsoterica
@VideoGameEsoterica 4 дня назад
Less than zero clue
@miguelcarneiro1192
@miguelcarneiro1192 4 дня назад
@@VideoGameEsoterica :) one day then :)
@Supaslicer
@Supaslicer 4 дня назад
​@@miguelcarneiro1192 or never.... it's schrodinger console... it both exists and doesn't exist until the box is opened
@miguelcarneiro1192
@miguelcarneiro1192 4 дня назад
@@Supaslicer Just like the BigFoot :)
@VideoGameEsoterica
@VideoGameEsoterica 4 дня назад
Haha love it
@bengineer_the
@bengineer_the 4 дня назад
If you said that they are not sure what FPGA they will run it on, then I'd say it doesn't run on anything.
@VideoGameEsoterica
@VideoGameEsoterica 4 дня назад
That’s the vibe
@joesaiditstrue
@joesaiditstrue 3 дня назад
hopefully none of you fall for this obvious scam
@VideoGameEsoterica
@VideoGameEsoterica 3 дня назад
I’m just giving people information
@SP95
@SP95 4 дня назад
Supersega going to cost more than a PS5 Pro
@VideoGameEsoterica
@VideoGameEsoterica 4 дня назад
With that chip they keep showing it would have to
@matthewhall6288
@matthewhall6288 4 дня назад
Sooo...what about Mars?
@georgejpg
@georgejpg 4 дня назад
Also vapourware
@VideoGameEsoterica
@VideoGameEsoterica 4 дня назад
🤷🏻‍♂️ no news yet
@gammaphonic
@gammaphonic 4 дня назад
I think some people have seen the popularity of mister and got excited with big ideas, announced a dream product then struggle to make it a reality. I’m happy to assume they have good intentions, but have just bitten off more than they can chew. I’m not going to assume this is another Coleco Chameleon situation without a bloody good reason to do so.
@VideoGameEsoterica
@VideoGameEsoterica 4 дня назад
Bringing a product to market is a very hard thing to do. I did it for a living and some days I really hated it
@snintendog
@snintendog 4 дня назад
I will Reiterate. I has shown us FAR MORE than MARS has. If MARS isnt Vaporware yet then SuperSega isn't either. FFS MARS has just Disappeared off the map and its still considered "REAL". Getting real sick of this Double edged Vaporware name calling by those that support MARS.
@VideoGameEsoterica
@VideoGameEsoterica 4 дня назад
Everything is vaporware until it appears unless Sony / Microsoft / Nintendo announce it. At least to me. That’s not an insult. That’s just how it works
@georgejpg
@georgejpg 4 дня назад
Neither is considered real lmao. MARS is a joke
@richardwang9315
@richardwang9315 4 дня назад
I'll let the real Sega Corporation and M2 laugh upon this FPGA fraud 😂
@VideoGameEsoterica
@VideoGameEsoterica 4 дня назад
Sega needs to just give us an FPGA mini console
@emmettturner9452
@emmettturner9452 4 дня назад
It would be more believable if we got to see IMPERFECT rendering. They know this too. There would be no reason to work and reveal nothing until it was perfect when that will only cast doubt. If they were telling the truth then the least they could have done was show some old WIP renders at the same time as the current renders.
@VideoGameEsoterica
@VideoGameEsoterica 4 дня назад
Yes I’d genuinely expect the first demo to be 1 frame per second with missing calls to the GPU. And I’d be impressed by that
@Idelacio
@Idelacio 4 дня назад
Mars at least has names backing it, I can see it happening as advertised. This? Non, especially not after that Crazy Taxi footage. At best it'll be an fpga/emulator hybrid machine. And that is fine but they have to be upfront about that.
@snintendog
@snintendog 4 дня назад
MARS so where is MARS? the protoype baord was due back in JANUARY. If MARS isnt Vaporware at this point then SUpersega who has shown us 10x more sure as hell isnt.
@VideoGameEsoterica
@VideoGameEsoterica 4 дня назад
Really any names behind projects are less important than having something to show
@VideoGameEsoterica
@VideoGameEsoterica 4 дня назад
Yes no real movement on them for awhile
@Idelacio
@Idelacio 3 дня назад
@@snintendog I should stress I am being VERY charitable to MARS, it's relative. I can see it happening but I doubt it will.
@VideoGameEsoterica
@VideoGameEsoterica 3 дня назад
Just will have to wait and see
@Magicktech
@Magicktech 4 дня назад
Are they running in a lower framerate or is the youtube video just a lower framerate? Seems like they are using software emulation footage possibly.
@VideoGameEsoterica
@VideoGameEsoterica 4 дня назад
No that cadence wouldn’t be any encoding / pacing on YT situation
@Magicktech
@Magicktech 4 дня назад
@@VideoGameEsoterica I mean the actual video framerate. Is it 60 fps?
@VideoGameEsoterica
@VideoGameEsoterica 4 дня назад
It was. But even if it was 30 you would not see that cadence in the footage
@Magicktech
@Magicktech 4 дня назад
@@VideoGameEsoterica Not sure what you mean.
@VideoGameEsoterica
@VideoGameEsoterica 4 дня назад
The motion on screen can’t be due to mismatched capture vs exhibition frame rate. The pacing is too off
@Fuuntag
@Fuuntag 3 дня назад
Scam
@VideoGameEsoterica
@VideoGameEsoterica 3 дня назад
Lot of people are feeling that way
@Fuuntag
@Fuuntag 3 дня назад
@@VideoGameEsoterica getting mad Coleco Chameleon vibes…Vaporware is being charitable, I don’t think there is any intention to make this as stated.
@VideoGameEsoterica
@VideoGameEsoterica 3 дня назад
They are running out of time to show real hardware running code
@Fuuntag
@Fuuntag 3 дня назад
@@VideoGameEsoterica this is a 2015 level fraud in 2024 so I don’t think it’ll hold up for long. 👍🏻❤️
@VideoGameEsoterica
@VideoGameEsoterica 3 дня назад
We shall see
@postpunkjustin
@postpunkjustin 4 дня назад
I understand that you have a platform of tens of thousands and a responsibility to hedge on any accusations that you make, and I respect that. I, however, am a certified internet rando and I can say whatever I want. In my opinion, there's zero chance that they have built the single largest and most complex FPGA gaming core of all time out of nowhere, seemingly overnight, with no noticeable bugs and without ever revealing any actual hardware details. At best, they're taking a "fake it til you make it" approach. At worst, it's just a con. We'll see which is which, I suppose.
@VideoGameEsoterica
@VideoGameEsoterica 4 дня назад
You are correct. I do hedge my bets. I provide enough information for the viewer to parse out my thoughts and decide for themselves :)
@tog2842
@tog2842 4 дня назад
Seems like bollocks to me.
@VideoGameEsoterica
@VideoGameEsoterica 4 дня назад
It’s raising a lot of questions
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