I’m a retired mortician and I have buried quite a few people who were shot by a 22LR. Bullets are nothing to play with and what idiot is going to stand toe to toe with you when you pull out your gun. Are they going to ask you, “Oh what caliber is that gun you got there before I rob you”. Don’t believe those people who say 22LR is not good for self defense. I seen for myself what it can do.
This is right on point. Most of us regular people do not frequent areas or times where the denizens of criminal activity ply their wares. The chances of having a violent encounter are extremely low. If it does happen, it will likely be unexpected and very close. Once the gun is fired, the perpetrator(s) will have a change of priorities. They don’t know it’s “just a .22” and the survival imperative will supersede.
The main argument against using .22 LR for self-defence is its limited "stopping power,", but that name is not the right name for what it means exactly, especially in high-stress situations. If you and an attacker are both armed or the attacker is rushing at you with a blade how quickly you can stop them matters. So, is not stopping power that you blast out their brains all over.. is about preventing them to stab you or to shoot you before you shoot them! With a shotgun, a hit to the hip, belly, or centre mass is likely to incapacitate the attacker, preventing them from continuing their attack, that is the need for stopping power. In contrast, with a .22 LR, the same shot might not be as effective, it hurts like hell to get shot anywhere, your shoulder, your thigh or your chest, but it might not stop you from shooting or stabbing someone if you are upset or obsessed enough to hurt the other person. The .22 LR’s stopping power is less reliable to the possible situations you cannot control, so shot placement, how determined the attacker is and the attacker’s clothing are crucial factors of the attacker will continue to get to you even if shot with a .22 LR, and those factors are just not at all the same if someone is shot anywhere in the body with a shotgun. That said, the .22 LR is a great choice for self-defence in situations where recoil management and handling ease are important, especially under stress. While recoil is not a major issue with the .22 LR, there are many other factors in a self-defence situation beyond just recoil management that we must understand before we choose to go out on the street with any gun in our pocket, the best defence is to not just end up in a situation where you cannot control the outcome anymore.
You remind me of the first rule of self defense “break the action of the attack”. Not war, not duty, not mass shooters. Personal attacks. 22lr is great for stopping the attack.
great vid you hit the point I have been carrying a gun almost all of my adult life with a lot of weight on my belt and I have a bad back and hips because of it I now carry a sw 43c with punch ammo and 2 10 round speed strips its enough I have seen people shot with 22lr and its not a good thing you will stop what your doing with a couple of rounds of 22lr to the face or chest do not think your going to walk away unharmed Im only going to save me and my wife now let all the youtube ninjas save the world thanks for the down to earth vid
I have one of those KelTec P32s and I carry it as a backup almost every day (to a Glock 43). No one wants to get shot with anything, period. Hell, even spitballs at 300 fps can injure (they may take a little time to deploy). One of my future acquisitions is a Ruger LCP II in .22 LR, for all of the factors that you mentioned. Good video.
This is the second video I watched of yours (the other just a few minutes ago on your review Walker's ear pro from both Amazon and Ali Express). I am already a big fan (and now a subscriber!). Another great video - well done! You've got a great sense of humor (ROTFL multiple times).
the only gun when we were young was a H&R 999 22 9 shot, as protection Alway told my wife point it at center mass pull the trigger till empty. It's bound to slow him down so you can reload. ventilate them as much as you can.
Here is a grand question when it comes to 22LR and knowing its low % of un-reliability .... The "reliability" of a revolver (BUT LESS CAPACITY) that if you have a failed round, you can just keep pulling the trigger to cycle to the next round. OR The semi auto that has more capacity and if all rounds fire GREAT BUT run the risk of a failed round and have to manually rack it to clear it and chamber the next round ... which would you pick ???
I really liked your video. A agree with a lot of your points Just some of them that i think that i know from experience that aren't really that way Hungry people don't steal. They can't afford to use their energy to run or fight I'm from a third world country, and I got mugged 3 times and had one kidnap attempt Those people were desperate, but not because of food: Drugs. That's why people do dumb illegal violent stuff. Drugs. A guy that is high out of his mind might not understand the situation like me and you. And he definetly 100% does not feel pain like me or you. I still agree that 22lr even though is not the ideal, it is enough for most man to man defensive scenarios. My TX22 has seen a lot more shots than my glock 19, and has failed a lot less (because of bad recharged ammo, obviously) I'd still go for a pistol instead of a revolver, even in 22lr. Because it's easier and faster to solve a pistol malfunction than reloading a revolver
Thank you for your post and I agree 22 is definitely a good calibre as a get off me gun for people in certain situations. Although it's not the best choice I've seen people come through the emergency room with multiple 9mm shots and survive and I've seen people with 1 well placed shot with a 22 not even make it through the doors. Whatever your choice is as long as it's a well placed shot and you can get 2 safety then that'll do. God bless and thank you for your common sense review..
Bruce Jenner back in the day was pretty good with a pointed stick, they called it a "javelin". Yeah .22LR will just bounce off a grizzly in a winter coat.
If someone points a gun at you, who actually analyses the diameter of the barrel? Do you immediately go into that lizard brain for survival. If somebody pointed the BB gun at me, I probably wouldn’t even notice.
Shot placement is the key factor in a confrontation. Multiple shots in rapid order with limited recoil and blast make the . 22 LR a deadly combination.
You are absolutely correct. I’ve never heard of anybody volunteering to stand in front of a 22 and taking a shot. It’s plenty and I’m a former Marine saying that.
As a LEO, I was shot twice, once in the face with a .25 auto, and .38 special and hit my vest. The .25 hurt like hell but hit my cheek and bounced off. I do not want to stand in front of any bullet, but if I had a choice, it would be a .25 or smaller
I definitely respect that. My late dad, also a former Marine ('67-'71), brought us up on 22s and taught us how to shoot them all well, and he was an expert shooter with the M-14. I carry the Ruger 3'' LCR in WMR or the Ruger 4.5'' SR22. Totally adequate for my general SD purposes.
I agree completely. The 22 isn't a combat gun or a duty gun. All I have to do to protect myself is break contact. I either need to get away or cause the other guy to get away. My LCR in 22 is handy, easy to shoot and adequate.
When I carry the 22, its in a bianchi black widwow holster. its too bulky for pocket imo. and that 556 looking shorty, I would be deaf and cant do anything else if I used it in a defense situation.
I'm glad to hear someone else say this, I'm an infantry veteran and while I do not carry a .22, your concept on breaking contact in a civilian situation is an important one. It's not my job to kill the other person, though I will . . . It's my job to get to safety. I am not a soldier anymore, I am a civilian.
That's the entire argument for the .22Lr in a nutshell.The guns job "job" (purpose) as a civilian is to "BREAK CONTACT". . A cop on duty HAS to walk down that dark alley and subdue or apprehend the suspect. A soldier Must seek out and engage the enemy. A civilian can just avoid most dark alleys or shady establishments.....Situations where the ducks lineup and the boxes are checked where I or any civilian canLEGALLY /JUSTIFIABLY use lethal force. are few and far between AND means you fucked up (and let your ego overrun your brain). . And you are more than likely going to be charged and go to court. (/prison?) @@rileylabski
When someone sees a pistol pointed at them their first thought is I better get out of here. If that doesn't end the confrontation and they get 2 bullets in the chest then they think. Hospital. I gotta get to a hospital fast. If thar doesn't stop the fight then there will be bullets in the brain that will end the fight. Yes 22 should be adequate.
I said in the video, it is illegal to pull it out and not use it. so what people think when they see it is a moot point. Pulling out a defense gun in a situation where the enemy have time to consider ending the confrontation means you are delaying your deployment of your weapon, which will mean time is wasted, and time is all you have
I always carry a 22 LR revolver....never have ever needed it for self defense. And hope I never will ever need it...but it's extremely accurate..has no recoil...has 9 shots...and it's a firearm I've shot 100000 rounds threw at a minimum....I'm 100. % confident with it...and that's the main thing
Yeah that's the main point is a 22 deadly,❓❓YES, yes and that makes it perfect for self-defense it won't kill somebody else byoverpenetration through a wall💯🚩
Sir I like the way you describe things along with actually telling people that you are a normal guy . You also stated that you aren’t going up against a wild animal but humans . So I subbed. I enjoyed the video. Thanks so much.
Yes, .22lr is good enough for my home defense weapon. 8 rounds of reliable CCI should be able to handle any intruders, foreign or domestic. Ha! Thanks for the video.
kevin, you cant say that and still believe you are right... the answer always is, IT DEPENDS... if rob says it is good enough for his home, then it is good enough for his home, you aint been to his home so you dont know anything.
@@gunhobbywithdannythemedic Thanks for the backup! Man, this comment section sure came to life! Sign of a great and controversial video. Hope your channel keeps growing.
@kevinhart46 Mr. Hart, I think you have my best interest at "heart". Thanks. Just want to share this story with you...July 2015, 3am. I successfully stopped a burglary, at my house, with a Ruger MKIII .22lr. No shots fired. In fact, I could have been holding a black water pistol and gotten the same results. Take care.
My younger brother retired from law enforcement with 33 years of service. He explained to me one time that as long as a normal person is not participating in gang activity, not buying or selling drugs, not working as a prostitute, not hanging out in bars, not invading homes, and not generally acting like a tough guy jerk, the chances of experiencing vilolence was extremely low.. With that said a smart person still doesn't go the the bank ATM late at night or put themselves in a position to be walking around in the mall parking lot late in the evening.
I con-seal carry anytime I’m out. No one knows and I’ll never need but rather not need it and have it than need it and not have it. To say there is no day time assault or robbery is just not true
I also like the idea of the .22lr in a revolver preferably,because of the rimfire not always firing.The two main attractions for me is the affordability of the ammo ,almost no recoil, and it is not going to burst your eardrums!
What a refreshingly sane discussion of this topic. I live in a small town and see no compelling reason to carry, but if I lived where carrying seemed like a better idea my reasoning would be much the same as yours.
My friend was killed by a 22 in the early 80s when we got home from war. Five shots to the chest in a robbery after we got home from the Navy. Don't let anybody tell you you can't be murdered by one.
You are 100 percent correct. This obsession with large caliber and 16 rounds is wrong . In fact as a retired lawyer I would hate to be defending a client who was charged with manslaughter because he fired 16 rounds and some accidentally hit bystanders. WE are Not the police who have governmental immunity!! We only need to defend in very narrow circumstances. And in doing so we must act in a careful manner based on trained awareness. And situational training that gets you to think before you shoot . Even if you have seconds to do so training makes a proper response automatic. A jury looking at a Glock with 17 rounds is going to think you actually wanted confrontation and were a Walter Mitty cop want to be . Stand a 22 LR cartridge next to a 9 mm and see how a jury reacts. They will think you with the 22 we’re using minimum force to defend . ( actually more people are killed with 22 than any other caliber ) but we won’t go there . And training to shoot targets that are 75 feet away is insane when the testimony shows up in a court room ! 21 feet or less and one handed which makes a 22 LR or a 22 mag perfect . Always think of what you are doing will look to a judge or jury in the cold light of day years removed from the event . By the way I would never want a jury trial except in narrowly defined circumstances. All you have to do is get one person to put themselves in your shoes during that moment. Again my only disagreement with you is I think odds of being in mass shooter event is not zero . Maybe 40 years ago but not today .
I respect your disagreement, and of course, odds or ending up in a mass shooter event is not zero, but I think it is very close to it... because I myself dont go to places that attract mass shooters, u know, those places where they have signs thats says "gun free zone" so that already cuts my chances down from whatever it was to at least 99% less than that...
I agree a 22 LR or 22 Mag will do the job if needed, I carry them when they suit the conditions. I don’t feel unarmed with them..And as you said you don’t hang out in areas where you would need more.. I won’t lie, I carry 9mm, 45 ACP, 357 mag, but it all comes down to where we are and what we’re doing.. good job on the video I’m betting you will piss a few people off with this video..
I totaly agree also. The purpose of having a handgun is to stop the threat. Once you pull out your handgun the oponent is not going to look to see what caliper it is and second, stopping the threat does not mean killing the person. Its just means you have stopped the threat by injuring, or having him run. Theses guys that say they would never carry a 22lr are the Marcho, ego driven people. Great video.!!!
Totally agree. There are too many Dirty Harry Rambo’s out in public that would never carry a firearm that’s less than 9mm. Regrettably, ammo cost limits their range time, which limits their shooting accuracy. There’s a lot more practice with a 22, and in an adrenalin filled situation you don’t want to be spraying a neighborhood or a crowd with heavy caliber ammo. You want to stop the threat and put shots on target. Much easier and safer with a 22 than with the big guns and a 22 will pretty much stop anyone. Good video.
interestingly enough, I am most accurate with my glock 19... just dont need it for everyday carry.. its too much in size and weight and all that for what? to defend my $50...
@@jimmio1622 : In that case, you'd need guaranteed CNS shots, a.k.a. headshots... which, for most people on a limited budget, is much easier get with the volume and rapidity of fire from a 22. Just have to use decent ammo for carry--Mini-Mags, Punch, or Aguila HV.
Good job. I have a Ruger LCR .22lr and wouldn't hesitate to carry it for the reasons you have discussed. I would carry with CCI 40 gr MM or CCI Velocitors. I agree if carrying a .22 keet to revolvers. I have a number of 9mm pistols, Ruger LCP .380, S&W model 65 3" .357. but I am comfortable with the .22lr LCR as well. When I go to gun club, one or twice a week, I will usually shoot 100-200 rounds of .22lr with revolvers or pistols before shooting centerfire handguns. Great cheap practice
This was a great video on this topic and I hope you do more interesting videos. I get frequent failures in my 22lr auto and prefer the revolver for 22lr . The Federal Punch 22LR round is really good, it is all I want to use in my 22 now. No failures with that. But not always available.
Great video and full of common sense. I got a good laugh at your intro. I'm all about big caliber high capacity.......for hunting, combat, etc., However for self defense, my goal is to just break contact with whomever is trying to harm me. That's it. A top quality 22LR handgun with top quality ammo can handle 99.9% of self defense situations when out and about. For me, a Beretta 21A pocket pistol is perfect. Fits in my pocket and I ALWAYS have it with me. For nighttime home defense, I keep a 9mm double stack with a light on it on my night stand.
I wanna know who volunteers to be shot with a 22 caliber anything?? Hello?! Any temple or heart shot volunteers?? The underestimation of this caliber is foolishness!
I always have said! That Guns are just like the clothes that you wear for all the different ocasiones, the beach 🏝️ swimwear, a fancy party you wear nice clothing and most of all what ever shoes or flip flops 🩴 you wear, they should always be comfortable. That being said, your weapons should also be comfortable for you to shoot and conceal and handle well. Also, the higher the caliber, the higher the risk of over penetration and collateral damage that might ruin your day or life. I really enjoyed your video Sir.
More people have successfully defended themselves from a bear attack by shooting them with a firearm chambered in .22lr then any other round, killing the bear almost every single time. Inuit hunters still use .22lr rifles to kill polar bears...humans are litework for .22lr
My wife wanted 22cal for conceal carry. The gun merchant told her "I don't recommend it. It's not effective. But I will sell it to you if YOU REALLY WANT IT" That scared my wife. My wife is 4'8" Asian woman. So I handed a 45 cal 1911 pistol. It looked ridiculous in her hands. "Honey, do you think you can pull this out of your purse?" She said Nope. OK, don't listen to this guy. If you pull out a 22 and shoot him in the nuts I guarantee it will take him out of his game and then you can run away. Later my wife asked me, "why do these guys say things like that if it is not true?" Because they are gun enthusiasts or ex-military and are Not thinking clearly about who you are and what's the purpose at hand. Besides, he's probably never been hit with a 22 bullet. I got shot with a BB gun that barley went into my skin and it was Extremely painful. Thanks for your clarity on this video.
Man you just upset thousands of keyboard commandos. 😂 Don’t you know that you must have a 15 round 40 caliber pistol with two extra mags, a folding “combat”knife, pepper spray and a first aid kit or you’re a fool to leave your house. Also, you need an AR with 5 mags and a class 3 bullet proof vest in your trunk just in case.😂
I agree with you 100% and I own 3 22LR pistols and one 22mag pistol My EDC is a P17 in 22LR and I sometimes carry the 22mag gun. I can no longer handle the more powerful guns because of nerve damage in my hands and I'm 79 years old! I carried a Glock 19 as my duty weapon for many years but things change and we all have to make adjustments, as life goes on. My Life is good here in Sunny Florida and I shoot at my LGR every week! Great Video & Thanks!
I APPLAUD you for staying armed, we need ALL good people, especially our seniors to be armed at all times, too much scum out there who look to the elderly thinking they are easy prey.
Walk with me and I will show you the graves of people who were shot and killed by .22 shorts from back in the 1900s all the way up to the early 1070s to a close friend who was shot through a screen door with a single .22 shotshell. Only one of the tiny shot found it's way between his ribs and penetrated his heart he managed to run across the road to a cafe to seek help and died while holding onto the door. The .22 has been used to hunt and kill both prey and predator since it was first made.
I shoot only 9mm and 22LR ... While 9mm has a lot of kick and power behind it, the 22LR is "fun" to shoot, its light, little to no kick and i can keep on target shot after shot.
There's way too many guys who define their manhood by their ability to dump some high recoil round downrange. II heard people ridiculing the FBI for going back to 9mm after finding enough agents weren't able to reliably hit their target with 10mm. I've heard .380 get called a 'woman's caliber' but nobody will willingly get shot with one. A lot of people talking about all of the caliber talk do a lot of reading on what's best and like to reference some report or some ballistic gel test. The reality is if you get hit with any bullet, unless you're hopped up on drugs or superman, it's going to drastically affect you if not flat out incapacitate you. For most people, the smaller calibers are more than enough and will likely keep them out of prison. Pull out that 10mm super canon and miss, which is likely due to recoil, and have that bullet go through several walls and hit someone unintended and you're getting some prison time and you won't be able to have a gun in there.
I carry a Phoenix Arms 10+1 . 5 rounds of CCI segmenting Hollow Point and 6 rounds of Federal Punch. A mccarbo spring in it and polished feed ramp. Hello from Lubbock Texas
Well said, 22lr is dangerous to stand in front of when it is fired. According to statistics it is 60% one shot stop, I didn't say kill, but it stops the aggressor 60% of the time
one aspect I like about the 22LR is the low level of explosion trauma.. YES a grenade activated between you and your enemy will destroy your enemy, but then also you along with it... People use Flash Bangs for a reason, and I think, although I never experienced it, that if I fired a 38 special or higher in the real world in self defense, the exposition may incapacitate my senses limiting my ability to further defend against the other bad guy who is in cahoots with the first one.. UGH
Yes a .22LR is good enough for self defense, as with any caliber shot placement is critical. I inherited my grandfather's 9-shot .22 revolver with a 6" barrel and it's very accurate. Now outside my home I carry a 9mm or 380 and sometimes have a .22 pocket gun for backup.
Ditto. I inherited my grandfather's Hi Standard .22 revolver 9 shot. He was a farmer and used it to dispatch varmints and snakes. I also carry a 9 but my back up is , you guessed it , a .380. Don't carry the .22, it's just for plinking.
Yup, good enough for my lifestyle. I carry a S&W 43c loaded with Federal Punch. Small, very light weight and easy to carry in a pocket holster or leather belt holster. The right tool for the right job.
More people in the U.S. is shot by a .22 than any other per yr. And i never seen anyone get shot by one get up and ask for another! And id take a Ruger 10/.22 as a shtf I can put 1k rounds into my pants pockets and hit the woods in a shtf situation cant think of another you could do that with and it not be a burden on movement.
You're not wrong. I carry something a big bigger, because I live in the country and I may have to deal with feral hogs. But, I don't dump on people's choices. If it works for you, its all good. It doesn't give as consistent wound channels, but, if you substitute quantity for quantity. As the saying goes, all hail the bullet storm.
I can shoot a .22LR much more accurately because the absence of muzzle blast and recoil. You are perfectly correct Danny!!!! With the new federal punch you know when you fire all nine shots into an assailants body they’re going to be hurting for sure. I’m 76+ and don’t have the strength in my hands like when younger. I can’t rack the slide like I could fifty years ago. A revolver is the only weapon I can shoot now. I recently tried every semi auto at the gun shop, and couldn’t operate the slide on any! What would I do if it stovepiped more than once? For me, I purchased the 9 shot tharus in .22 mag. It’s more than I really need. Thanks Danny for all your different vlogs!!!!!
You gotta be 80yo with no wrist to require the 22 lr for recoil. If it’s all you got I’ve been there it will do. But it is no means the choice of someone who knows guns. I wouldnt rate it high on the anger dissuader chart
Ha! I get what you're saying, but no, not 80 and I do know guns. .44mag, .45acp, 9mm, .357, M16, M60, 50cal. and more...shot 'em all. I choose .22lr for "home defense" for one reason...over-penetration. Wife, kids and neighbors are just a couple of sheets of drywall away. And yes, I do practice often. BTW, the wife says I don't need to worry about over-penetration, but I think she's talking about something else. Take care.
22 is a dangerous round for defense. Forget the fact an attacker high on drugs will take 5 and still laugh at you. But the problem is they are tiny and mostly lead or jacketed. They will ricochet and cause all kinds of damage to things / people you never intended it to do. If you can’t control a 9mm get a 32 or a 38 special revolver.
Its not about recoil and im tired of everyone making excuses to make 22lr ok to use/ carry... modern CCI and premium 22lr like fed punch eliminate the only reason that ever made 22lr questionable for edc by civilians which was reliability. Penetration was a close second dissuader originally but again premium 22lr designed for SD has eliminated this concern with fed punch 22lr penetrating 14" in ballistics geletin out of a snub LCR revolver. With the reliability + penetration issue more or less resolved 22lr will do just fine... fuds are butt hurt about wasting all their time and money on guns and calibers that are only needed for WROL. Sorry cupcakes.
Look at the chaos and damage John Hinkley Jr. did against one of the most guarded people on the planet at that time with just a.22lr revolver . I'd argue just having a starter pistol full of blanks will achieve more positive results than something like pepper spray if that's all you have.
IF I carried a .22 LR for self-defense I would alternate the rounds in the cylinder with Federal Punch and CCI Stinger hollow points. No one wants to get Punched and Stung. And you are correct to only use center fire firearms in auto, rim fire is only for revolvers when used in self-defense.
Very educated discussion on your view,per listen to vedio, I agree....subie in 38/32...for information purposes of discussion there are choices..from a seecamp 32..to a 1911 government..depend on pain and ease of carrying to the individual. Yep ,I agree with your vedio, less is more...great vedio..from educated man ,thank you..great presentation.
I saw that you went to Range 702 for your CCW as I. On my renewal, I brought my wife's .22 because it was cheaper to shoot during the qualifying portion. The female instructor actually made fun of me and told me to take out another gun. LOL.
I carry a Taurus TX22, I practice with it a lot, I can put 3 shots on target, in the same time as most can do 1 accurately, I carry CCI Mini Mags in it when I carry, when I practice, I mostly just use Aguila 38 gr hollow points, it has never jammed, or misfired with either, I has also shot Remington Golden Bullets with no issues, good video, and great common sense instruction
Interesting take on the .22. It's so easy to get caught up on the bigger, better, more rounds thing, but when ALL things are considered, the .22 is ideal for many people. Of course there are scenarios when 17 rounds of 9mm would be better but how far do you go with the "what if's"? Do we drive a 3 ton Hummer and wear a 4 point harness seat belt because it might be better? Good video!
indeed... like, I do have a glock 19, and it has 15 rounds a mag, and two spare mags would be 45 rounds, but if I think I need 45 rounds where I be going, I would rather not go and stay at home!
Death vs. stopping deadly aggression don’t always equate. As far as who you are, if you knew when you would need any firearm you would bring a long gun or better just stay away. I don’t know what my next gunfight is going to look like? When you get the Churchill tap, will you be ready, or will you be unprepared for that which could have been your finest hour. 🇺🇸👮🏻♂️👍🏻
Just randomly came across your video... Truth and reality hurts don't it? A lot of the ppl you speak of will be butthurt ... Those are the guys who say they NEED--emphasis on 'need'--a firearm...I always ask those ppl the same thing: how many instances have you PERSONALLY encountered where a gun was needed? How many violent encounters do you run into EVERY DAY? How many gun shots were fired in your neighborhood today? This week? In your life? What situation deemed that this tool-yes it's a tool-necessitated its usage? These ppl got all these scenarios that never happen, they wear armor and vests and carry a rifle or cannon but the only gunshots they've been around are when they're at the range or practicing... It's along the exact same lines as someone who knows self defense arts... When have you actually used those arts? Every day? Not every situation calls for it, just like a gun...I love firearms but I come from bad neighborhoods and my folks and people came from war...I have them for "in case" but mostly just because I want them... My day to day life, in spite of all the violence I have witnessed, does not necessitate it... That's reality... REALITY.... They are trying to turn a firearm into a "must have" when those who have been thru war or violence will speak differently...STOP... These people are not soldiers or warriors... They live in peaceful places and work their jobs and live life... We are not in a warzone... Be honest and stop trying to prove a moot point...I have firearms because I want them... I'm not out hunting for food or protecting myself and my family from non-existent goons...
22. LR would be fine to use as a self defense weapon, however I would only use it in a revolver instead of a semi automatic. The reason behind that is that 22 LR’s or any rim fire ammunition, have a tendency to jam or misfire. That would be real bad in a semi automatic handgun in my opinion.
I use to carry a KelTec 32 acp pistol just like that in my pocket too. Great little gun. Mine was just like yours, the 1st generation where the slide is milled out of square stock. The gen 2 ones, the slides were milled out of hex bar stock. I shot that little gun so often that I bought LEE reloading dies so I could afford to shoot it. I couldn't find a bullet mold for 32ACP that was reasonably priced, so I bought a LEE .32 caliber rifle bullet mold and milled it down until it would cast the proper size & weight bullets.
The .22lr has been used in spot lighting deer,elk, etc. and putting down injured (or one for dinner) cows or injured horses (food in some countries and our military- at least in the past), or even injured or sick dogs. That round has put down thousands of animals over the years. Remember, sometimes gangs require a newbie rob or even kill someone for initiation. In that case they may want to look for someone unassuming, like a Chinese guy in a funky hat. Careful and luck to you.
I’m 68. Three broken wrists. I can shoot a larger gun. But it hurts like hell. I put a Crimson Trace on my Ruger LCR. With 8 shots and I speed loader in my pocket I can get off 16 rounds pretty quick and on target.
Is the .22 LR good enough for concealed carry self defense? If it's all you have then ... well it's all you have..... But no, it is not a "good choice" if you are choosing to daily carry. Can a .22 be fatal YES, but again that was not question. Be safe and practice with whatever you carry.
It confuses me as to why people generally think they have to protect themselves from a person on drugs or a person who wants to rob them or some car high jacker. I carry a gun to protect myself from all types of people. The people I am most afraid of is the average middle class person; not a low life on drugs. I started conceal carry because of the threats and intimidation I got from "normal people" who have good jobs but maybe had a bad day or they just don't like what I am wearing or they did not like the color of my skin 👈🏾 I had a female start an argument with me and turns out she was conceal carry; I know because when I asked her if she was carrying a gun and she immediately got off at the next stop of the train.
Well....I been know to carry a .22lr among other calibers....if you have good quality ammo....a .22lr is like getting stabbed with a sharp knife over and over that burns....so let Me conclude by saying I got shot with a bb gun in the leg when I was a kid....I hopped around and it hurt....I would not want to get shot with a. 22 or anything else....it can kill you ....
What most people misunderstand is that though a 22 might not go through you. is that it will definitely bounce around inside you which means it will hit alot of organs hence total damage. Plus i dont know anyone who has been shot by a 22 and said that it didn't hurt and kept on continuing what they were doing 😂 especially when if your shooting your 22 your going to empty your cylinder/magazine!! So if I'm wrong then i would love to hear
Yes the people who would attack the average Joe would be either a drug addict looking for money for a fix.. or perhaps a road rage idiot... Whether you carry a 22 revolver.. a 38 5 shot revolver.. a small 22 or 25 acp semi-auto... A 32 or 380 semi-auto... All these guns will WORK .. and don't forget head/ face shots .... You don't need a large caliber handgun with a red dot sight mounted on top. And three spare double stack 15 round mags.. strapped to your side to defend yourself... The smaller calibers will do just fine.!
I'd never carry a 22 semi, revolver any day of the week. Especially 22 mag gold dot. Can shoot it through a hoodie pocket, or purse if a female. Try that with a Glock