Is the cheapest 16 inch MacBook Pro really 'Pro'? 

The mid tier upgrade actually costs a grand less than what Luke paid for his iMac Pro 5K! At that price, its a value. Some people would want to keep the difference in their pocket. And because modern Macs can’t be upgraded after market, it makes sense to buy the specs you think you might need later now than be stuck with the base model that doesn’t anticipate possible future needs. If you’re going to keep your Mac with you, an upgrade won’t hurt and if you do sell it, it will hold its value well.

Al van der Laan i knew this was coming but didnt want to wait especially since I didnt want to pay so much for what would be a machine I’d only use for ios development... so got a 2012 mac mini 16gb memory, 512gb ssd... $500.

I just bought one (picked up on Nov 6), saw the news on Nov 12, went back to Apple and returned the 15" and now I am waiting on the 16 :D EDIT: P.s. I saved money by doing that and I even took it up to 1 TB rather than 512 GB.

A lot of them can probably return it.

If they bought it in the last month they can return it. The ones I feel bad for are the ones who bought it just over a month ago.

I bought mine in August. Fuck me.

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MoW TV Thank you mate lol

saved me 10 minutes and from slight regret. thank you

I just don't see a 14" being capable enough to be a pro machine no matter the upgrades... the form factor is amazing, but it comes at a performance cost.

Owen Perry In comparison, I think the 13 inch sells more so I can surely see Apple releasing a 14 inch next year.

What’s the SSDs Performance like? Are they the same as the 15 inch predecessor?

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@@elvst3331 The SSDs are the same I think. If not, they are very close.

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I know, right? lol

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Vablo Who cares about the Vega 20 being in an IMac? This is about comparing Macbooks.

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Vablo While not really a discussion for this video, there’s nothing wrong with using a MacBook for that workflow. Not everyone wants to be tied to a desk for their work. Is it the most efficient? Probably not. Does that make it wrong or a mistake? Absolutely not.

Vablo looks like you got creamed on

@@vablo7198 "The vega 20 will absolutely cream the rx 5300M when cooled properly" Except you're comparing them inside of a laptop from a company who is infamous for poor thermal design. For practical purposes it doesn't perform better, your average user isn't putting their MBP into a refrigerator to render.

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@@lukemiani I'm gonna buy now

If they gave “a shit” they would return it to upgradable memory and SSD - like it once was.

@marian roberto Jack, ironically Mac book pro is the only apple product worth buying from their entire lineup.

This is an awesome machine. Too bad Apple is a criminal syndicate that rips off customers like crazy. Appleharmedme.blogspot.com

Exactly. But Apple gives more shit to ruin people’s lives and electrocuting people. Appleharmedme.blogspot.com

@McBossBrine I am frustrated by my surface book which costed 2400 USD 4 yrs back. The screen is still the best that I have ever looked at, but it has a dual-core i7 with sloppy stereo speakers. On top of everything, Windows crashes every once in a while. And the battery just sucks. I just want everything to JUST WORK, instead of me being annoyed every once in a while by some teeny-tiny glitches. At least, Apple knows how to build a laptop that just works for its customers, instead of just throwing in fancy pieces of shit that wont even last long.

Theo GT ikr luke is the best

This is an awesome machine. Too bad Apple is a criminal syndicate that rips off customers like crazy. Appleharmedme.blogspot.com

You shouldve waited till now November cus the 2020 updates are coming now

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This is an awesome machine. Too bad Apple is a criminal syndicate that rips off customers like crazy. Appleharmedme.blogspot.com

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Same price, better specs, why not!!

Bryan G. Wait, it’s the same price as the 256 GB??? Niiiice

Justin M. From what I could see yes. Unless you are going used.

Its like new car smell. You never forget it. Why things come out of the factory smelling new, is something people haven’t been able to figure out. Its akin to a religious experience!

Exactly the same MacBook I have used since and haven’t replaced that with this 16inch, I can see a big jump in performance and so on .

I had a 2013 MBP and replaced it with a new 16”. They are for all practical purposes the same size. Like a few hundredths of an inch different in each dimension, and about 0.1lbs difference in weight. You’d never notice the difference except side by side. So glad I waited until they made a laptop with a keyboard included.

@@jmcminn1076 I have a late 2013 MBP too, and this 16" is the first I've actually thought of getting in the last 5+ years. You think it's worth it?

@@paullynch4021 yes I do. This new 16" is finally a good MacBook again. I am loving mine. With a real power button and escape key, the touch bar is even growing on me. I got the 8 core i9/1TB SSD SKU rather than the entry one, but the entry one is a 6 core i7 and 512GB SSD, and would also make a damn fine computer. My only reservation on recommending it is actually that it won't run newer OS X than Catalina, which means if you rely on any 32bit software (such as Aperture), adjusting to Catalina can be a painful chore. In my case this laptop is a secondary machine to my desktop Mac Pro, so the forced Catalina upgrade is a dry run, but if you use a MacBook as your main computer, be aware of the 32 bit software deprecation in Catalina.

lacey rae physically the same size as mi Retina MBP from early 2013. That’s he meant.

Look, they finally got that keyboard fixed so you can upgrade! :)

same thoughts as yours, I have the same exact model as you do but i don't know if I would wait till the next upgrade. it has been too long

I am upgrading from the POWERBOOK G4

@Ryan I also have the mid 2014. My issue recently is when using Adobe Premiere I get a warning message about my graphics card. Have you run into this scenario?

@@josefrodriguez7441 I am using Final Cut Pro at my work so have not seen that.

That poor guy, that MacBook was coming straight for him. Is Luke all right? xD

NEIN😂

He seems to be Spanish capable

Everyone outside the US knows English is the default language of idiots, have you been American lately.

@@christhund1145 i think lukes origin is italian, he look also like italian..

I am as well lol. mine works perfectly still

Same here :-) Now its already three of us. Mine also still works perfectly :D

And what about the loss of good selection of ports? Is it something time will mend?

Daphne Max I use my Mac for professional work. A small investment in new USB c cables and dongles doesn’t really bother me. I’m looking for the speed boost in my workflow, which is the most important. This is also future proof.

What’s your 16 inch MBP specs, also using 2012 MBP, hope to earn more bough to upgrade later

same here. maybe this is the one....

Im watching this on my 2011 15" MBP, but....... My new 16" MBP is sitting about 20' feet away in its box! This was the one worth upgrading to!

Me too. Upgraded to a SSD and 8gb RAM in 2017. Thinking about buying a used 2015 model.

Watching On The mid 2012

My late 2011 crapped out recently :(

Mid 2012 here

My friends bully me for watching a girl RU-vidr!

RunFor OurLives same, I also don’t see the attraction. I’d think many of her subscribers just watch her because she’s gIrL

I stay away from all female tech reviewers except Lisa Gade.

I bought a Mac for the first time, MBP 16, can confirm there’s a nice smell

Luke Miami is his secret adult movie identity 😉

Felt he was channeling FroKnowsPhoto there a smidgen ;)

You mean he is not Luke Miami?

@@EdgyShooter I was about to say that hahaha.

This is an awesome machine. Too bad Apple is a criminal syndicate that rips off customers like crazy. Appleharmedme.blogspot.com

C. Gooden I knew that sounded familiar, but I couldn't put my finger on it.

Oh my god I INSTANTLY recognised it.

Maaannnn ...i noticed it too and i thought i was the only one ! I love you guys ! for real !

That’s the reason I’m not upgrading. Apple’s anti repair mindset is so funny it sucks. They took steps to ensure more efill waste. Then you hear Tim Cook talk about Apple’s contribution to environmental awareness. Oh really? He might want to go look in the mirror.

frank legacy lazy bastard

This is an awesome machine. Too bad Apple is a criminal syndicate that rips off customers like crazy. Appleharmedme.blogspot.com

z00h eww... how uncivilized

Tanaka-kun wtf

張泰銘 stfu. Other than computers me and my entire family has been completely in the Apple ecosystem for years and never had problems

Are you using it for 3D Modeling and Animation?

DPhoto those are the specs I ordered but I shelled out for the 64gb ram

Only 32 gb ram?

He might grab 64gb though

Exactly. I think it's the sweetspot for a content creator like Luke, with the most bang for the buck! I second this guess! Core i9 2.3Ghz, 32Gb, 2Tb and 8Gb 5500M!

Same here buddy.

Still driving my horse carriage, waiting for flying cars before I upgrade.

​@@Andrew-tl9gk I know how you feel, though i am about to make a jump in getting this computer soon...

With this MBP price I can pay 1 semester of my university lmao

@@TheCitizenship 😂

I pay 2450€ (Student discount) are you sure that it is still that high?

Anonymous lol in the Netherlands we lay 2100€ a year (2 semesters) in uni.

Q Nguyen you do realise he oversaw the whole design production of this MacBook

@@ikBONK nor was he fired

Sell that shit and buy a Thinkpad x230

rip, im legit in the same exact scenario :< (except that mine is mid 2015)

Dot32 Mid 2015 is more then good enough.

denniszenanywhere Don't listen to these idiots. Most of them return stuff after the review is done. Basic MBP 16 inch is a damn powerful machine.

Skaterdye Productions same here 🤙🏽

That's the one I want for work. $3249, or in my country £3249 :/ :/

I bought the same but with 2tb ssd

@@mortizasthetripleg I'm considering it but I might just get some T5s instead for data

I will buy the best one, with 1 TB

Marquinhos and upgradable memory (pre-Retina) and upgradable SSD (like the Retina). Until then, pass.

There are solutions to make your USB C split off like Magsafe. And they are not gonna bother with SD card reader, upgradability of SSD/RAM. They make more money by not doing them. So, very unlikely that they make a return.

They sell adaptors check amazon

Me too. But you’ll never get it back because APPLE HAS CHANGED. Apple is a criminal syndicate that rips off customers like crazy. Appleharmedme.blogspot.com

Tony Smart damn

can always just get it swapped out for the 16” for free

This is an awesome machine. Too bad Apple is a criminal syndicate that rips off customers like crazy. Appleharmedme.blogspot.com

Can’t you return it??? You could right. It’s 14 days. The last gen is literally too bad so pleeeeeease return it.