Is The Copa Libertadores Better Than The Champions League? 

Better Players = South American Players.

Heltinho Minardi the best attackers are from South America

David Acosta you can also watch some entertaining fights pretty often. You dont see that on Champions League.

Best players / They played in Europe so thats all no one out of South America gives a fuck libertadores...

It happens because of eurocentrism and bad management of Conmebol.

El I remember watching Melgar playing against Minero last year in Peru and on tv you can hear the intercom say "please turn off the flares" after Melgar scored the first goal against Minero. Ridiculous what has happened over the few years because of bad apples. I'm waiting since to this day to see Alianza Lima back in Copa Libertadores.

and back when they had Mexican teams

The real reason of the amazing atmosphere of the Libertadores is the fans and the way they chant all game and in a way that only happens here, it's sad that they banned the things you say and it was better that way but the atmosphere in the Copa Libertadores it's still incredible and unique.

That did not change here in Argentina ! We do it anyway !

Here in Brazil they banned almost everything.

saltney17 At least here in Central/North America they broadcast most Copa Libertadores games at 1 AM.

Almost Always, the superstars in UCL are from South America. Almost all of them previously played Copa Libertadores. I would love watch UCL teams without the Bosman Law. And see what happen. And I really would love return of the old Intercontinental Cup. 2 matches. Home and away. They were epic battles. Teams like Liverpool did not want to play it because of fear, putting the excuse of the full calendar.

Libertadores needs the good organization of UCL. I dream about seing our competition enveloped, an anthem, a pattern of colors in transmissions, beautiful banners etc. The prize is not very attractive (The state championship of São Paulo gives almost the same money), North American teams can not qualify to Fifa Club World Cup if they win... It has to be better managed. Champions League has an amazing series that shows behind the scenes and interviews with coaches, fans and players. I love that! We deserve a better competition.

Conmebol now is tryng to do it. I heard that they want a single final, in a neutral country. I prefer, by far, a two legs final. The distances are much more longer than in europe.

Ni Kra, and there is the fact that good part of fans here in south america don't have enough money to go onto a foreign country that it's far away like Ecuador (brazilian here)

Harvey K poo

where is Emi?

"Knockin' it out of the park" and "lads"? As a German I'm confused! U british or american?

hi

Martin Ivan Verdade mano!

Martin Ivan Y Juventus siempre perde en la final

em libertadores nem sempre o melhor ganha...

A sin como en estos días cualquiera club europeo nos puede a ganar, preferirá uña mejor organización do que ter éstos problemas irritantes...

Los jugadores estrellas de los equipos europeos que escribiste son sudamericanos

viva puiss cadaju mi sporting Cristal le gana al real Madrid cadaju puiss causita

Erick Torres No creo que es peruano jajaja, pero bien hecho. "UN SALUDO DESDE CHCILAYO CADAJU PUIS PEEEEE CAIN CAIN"

Erico Bachour yu happy aintchu boi😂😂😂😂😂

@@basedsavage4793 VÃO APANHAR FEIO DO GLORIOSO SÃO PAULO

Hell yeah because playing against these unknown Caribbean teams is no competition for liga mx.

I'm brazilian and i am really curious to see what MX and MLS top teams are capable off, your hinchas should do some kind of protest to concacaf requesting the participation.

+Ricá Vilas Boas totally agree

Ricá Vilas Boas liga mx teams do decent

Ricá Vilas Boas liga mx teams do decent

Yuri Muniz the part of the money is not so true. Brazilian teams nowadays spend much more money than teams from other countries, but because libertadores is more than just have the best players, it doesn't mean that it will be like champions leaugue, where the teams with more money always win

But if Latin players stay in Latin America Copa Libertadores could be better .

yet never heard of it

Champions league are watched all around the world you watched a game in anfield or dortmund match its fantastic

In champions doesn't have the same winner and finally champions league all the world watched it and its more competitive and the professional south america player dream to play with barcelona or real madrid and playing in ucl

I agree, to be a competitive team in Europe you need to spend a lot of money on transfers etc. Only few teams can afford to do that, and this is sad because the difference is getting bigger every year, teams like PSG, Barcelona, Bayern, Real, Juventus or other top premier league teams can easily spend 100 million for one single player, while in my country the league winners Legia Warsaw which is btw the richer team in Poland cannot even spend 2 millions on a player, and this is common for all Eastern Europe and Scandinavia with few exceptions.

I think that it would better if Uefa didn't change the champions league format by introducing non-champion teams from best leagues. The level across the Europe would be more equal and CL games more exciting than nowadays

thats true !! that happens in all latinoamerica, lets see the last champions of argentina tournament: Boca, River, Racing, San lorenzo, Velez, Newells, Arsenal, Banfield, Estudiantes, Argentinos juniors, Lanus ... 11 different teams in the last 10 years

@Mateusz Gilka But if CL had only each nations champions, many top teams would be absent, the quality would be poorer and, still, the big nations would keep winning as in the past. How is it more exciting if Iceland, Ireland, Norway, Poland, teams keep being slaughtered by likes of Juve, Real, Barca, PSG, Bayern, Liverpool, Benfica? It'd be so boring.

Learn about european football and then we talk

Nuno Reseng Agreed, now uefa is trying to kick the "smaller" leagues out of the UCL, it's a matter of time until I can't see my team play in it anymore, but oh well at least I can see my team being robbed but the uefa referees by a couple more years, yeah!

I support Sporting

I guess she supports porto from her profile pic

Nuno Reseng FC Porto! Looks like both of us support Portuguese clubs 😂

AKA the Europa League

falou tudo!

Isso é porque o seu clube não joga a champions.

Ehh the matches are boring

@@raphaelostrowski6336 watch Barcelona playing is boring.

River plate...!!!

Estoy contigo !!!

Grande iqq!!!!

Bien ahi , IqqGlorioso jajjaja

Q pasaría si todos los suramericanos regresan de Europa? Los equipos europeos no serian los mismos.

Yin Cow Claro q si mijo. Saca a todos los suramericanos del Real Madrid y verás como quedan. Saca a todos suramericanos del Barcelona y me darás la razón. Esta idea viene desde los 80's en el cual tu no habias nacido. Tienes q aceptar q esa es la realidad. Los equipos europeos estarian muy x debajo del nivel q tienen actualmente.

São Paulo won 3 libertadores and 3 world champions in 1992-1993-2005, this is amazing

Actually Flamengo is the biggest joke of Brazil in Libertadores, he can't pass of level . Hahaha.

Martin Oyens i don't agree. flamengo was a super team with zico as the main player

no, sao paulo fc is the best of Brazil

Picture with don robbie lyle

José Alberto Zambrano Torres Se te nota la envidia, disimula un poco

Sanick envidia de que? De sus 5 mundiales ganados? O de sus 23 copas americas? Yo creo que es de sus 87 libertadores ganadas tambien.

Ganaron solo una copa los chilenos, no son los que hacen que esta copa tenga la historia que tiene, argentina, Brasil, uruguay son los más ganadores en ese orden

chiledño

Chile no te quiere ni dios

alcidessamuel bue, tampoco para tanto. Los partidos de la champions son mejores, en libertadores son mas fisicos. Solo son distintas copas.

@@gonzalosanchez1575 Los partidos de Champions son solo toques, el 80% de los partidos son toques, que en un punto llega a aburrir

@@hdiosuniversal Si, hay partidos de champions aburridos. Pero un buen partido de champions le da 30 mil vueltas a cualquier partido de libertadores (te tiro un par de ejemplos del año pasado, la ida del barca vs liverpool, la vuelta del city tottenham, los dos partidos de la juve vs atletico, los dos partidos del psg vs liverpool, todos ellos partidazos). Si decis que todos los partidos de champions son aburridos es porque notablemente no has visto la champions.

@@gonzalosanchez1575 Todos es una forma de decir

@@hdiosuniversal una forma de decir que de todas maneras para mi es erronea. La mayoria de los partidos que pasan de los octavos en adelante tienden a ser buenos (los grupos tienden a ser malos por la cantidad de equipos de mierda que hay como el shaktar, el estrella roja, etc, lo mismo le pasa a la libertadores).

o cara do nada fala espanhol no final

Meanwhile in Camp Nou: over 90,000 supporters cheer there team in an AMAZING atmosphere in the 90th minute going out in the quarterfinals of UCL to Juventus "but but plastic supporter shitty bandwagon tourist"

Bob Jenkins I have been to camp nou as a tourist too, singing the blaugrana song is like singing YNWA. It's not real support, you do it once or twice. A full stadium of South American fans sing,cheer, dance and support for 90 minutes.

Bob Jenkins HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA BARCELONA SUPPORTERS SUCKS, ONLY SUPPORT HIS PLAYERS WHEN THEY PLAY WELL... IN BAD MOMENTS DISSAPAIRS

Old school? Decent quality? Its seems ok europe they dont have more football, its like an industry and no more

Es mejor la natural

Sos un filosofo del futbol

gran verdad

Y la mina linda y natural miran los que saben y ala otra todo !! Lo mira

La Champions League es mas hermosa que la Libertadores...

Brother, I'm from Argentina and loved your comment. You summoned it up beautifully. And please, don't be harsh on Neymar, he's fantastic, had very bad luck with his injuries, produced that unreal goal (!!) against Croatia and still has a WC left. Abraco.

@@dantolino1093 jamás nos van a compreender 🤣

I think most people would find the Libertadores more enjoyable to watch if they gave it a chance because it's nowhere near as elitist as European football. I'd love to see teams from "lesser" footballing countries in Europe have a genuine chance at winning just to make it more interesting.

My best regards to your family, specially to Andriy Schevencho #7

No men, is a completely nonsense say that, in the libertadores you can see fights, pyros, etc, but no football...

@@sebastianyern Eso pasa de vez en cuando, pero el fútbol de acá es otra cosa. Vos sos bastante hater igual.

@@enzovallejos7073 no se trata de ser hater solo de ver la realidad tal cual es, acá lo que menos hay es fútbol si se juega mucho mas lento y donde lo que impera es cualquier cosa menos la técnica, los europeos se han llevado todo y acá solo dejan migajas, los jugadores que vienen de vuelta, los juveniles y los jugadores mediocres que no les da para otra cosa, todo eso hace que el espectáculo no sea tan bueno como era antaño donde si se veía fútbol y de mucha calidad tanto o mas que el europeo.

Not to mention that the European fans are SOFT and the players are as well there is more physicality involved here

they need to bring back Liga MX teams

Talegon 31 always agreed :)

Erick Torres We don't need mexicans teams here, the reason most of teams didn't want a mexican team into their group is because long trips they had to take. what about the money?, well if you have watched latest matches, most of stadiums have been completely full of supporters, that's a good income for the home team and the visitor didn't have to fly more than 2 hours.

hahahahahahahahahahah no

Like I said no matter what you say you will never see celebrations like what happens in South America. Even in the Middle East the celebrations are better than the what happens in Europe.

huamanJR are you telling me ur watching football for the celebration or for the actual football?

Alexandre Bloch both

huamanJR ye but u wouldn't watch a match just for the atmosphere whereas if there was no atmosphere u wud still watch the match for the quality

hugdez44 já assistiu uma final d libertadores? É fantástico

Townes VZ im sorry to say that there is a lot of corruption in libertadores too

Libertadores is super corrupted my friend, don't look any further than the last final, Boca-River... That was a shit show

Townes VZ South American clubs are corrupt and often times broke

En 2020 volverán

@@dylanramirez1077 quien te dijo hermano? Saludos de Monterrey!

6:40 Libres y Lokos

WILLIAM ARÂO, e no BOTAFOGO Hahahahahahahahahhahahahahah Eu até sou botafoguense mas essa foi foda...

Crees que en Rumanía no celebraron cuando ganó el Steaua o en Serbia cuando lo hizo el Crvena Zvezda? Anda, el fútbol no es solo en Sudamérica asi como tampoco la emotividad y pasión.

Se creen k en Europa cuando hay un gol o gana tu equipo nos levantamos del sofá y damos tres palmadas? Venga hombre os invito a venir a Sevilla al Sánchez Pizjuán y al Benito Villamarín para k veáis buen fútbol y buenas aficiones

@@sebastianyern copa libertadores es mas impredesible I el estadio explota . I los juegos son intensos . La Altura la humedad. Muchos factores .

@@danielalfonsocedenocontrer6386 si igual los partidos de Libertadores son buenos, no digo que no, pero si quieres ver el mejor fútbol del mundo en la Champions lo vas a encontrar, de igual manera, la Libertadores tiene algo único que atrae a pesar de que el fútbol, en sí, no sea tan bueno.

@@sebastianyern amigo la magia del futbol es Sudaméricana lo malo es que un jugador de Sudamérica hace una buena temporada y rápido se lo llevan a Europa por eso Sudamérica tiene que estar sacando jugadores siempre porque se llevan la magia por eso casi ningún equipo que gana libertadores la repite porque se llevan todo el plantel

Kumbia concert jajaja

concacaf sucks dick

Hahahahahahaha... 😂 The best description

Uefa champions league

No entendí ni Mierda deberían escribir en español

Well it is true that the players and fans in Libertadores are a LOT more passionate than in CL. But the quality of the games are infact shit

Shit? You clearly haven't watched a CONMEBOL game because it's where all u glory hunters got ur Neymar's etc from

+Rodrigo Fernandes its not shit bro. Is far from the champions league quality. But the winner of libertadores in the end of the year many times beated the champions league winner in the world clubs cup. The quality is worst indeed, but not that worst, we have great players and great teams too

Maybe shit is a strong word for it but the times when Libertadores was great are over and I dont think they're coming back anytime soon.

+Rodrigo Fernandes i dont know about that. Atletico nacional vs rosario central last year was pretty good. Just like a libertadores match should be.

Exactly. That's the problem. Back in the day people supported their hometown club and gave everything for it. Nowadays it's just a global brand. I feel sorry for people that really are from Madrid or Barcelona that have to witness how football tourists from all over the world make up a majority of the crowd in their stadium. My club won't win a CL title in my lifetime I think but it's still a better feeling to be in the stands with people from my area that are all united than to be a Bayern or Barca supporter who complains when they don't win high enough. There is a reason why a lot of times smaller teams can create a better atmosphere than those super clubs

I'm Atletico Madrid supporter from Canada, i didn't start cheering for them because Cholo or the players but because of the fans, they have passion and they feel and live football, they're proud supporter and proud of Atleti's identity in which is the people's club, i started supporter Atleti when they were loser, proud supporter since 2009...........the hell with tourist coming to football stadium

Really you are only looking at Real-Barca-Bayern each year. Although it is good this year we have two of them knocked out at the quarter finals this year.

Absolutely spot on mate. I'd rather follow my team every week with all these people that share my love for this team that means absolutely everything to me than "support" a team half way across the world that I'll never seen play in person

Thank you very much for exposing the truth, These muslims hate the west and yet, they support big clubs in Europe, what a hypocrite.

Kris Nikolaev oh man you dont know what u missing!! It starts again now in February.Look in the web you should find some decent streaming sites.

Rojadirecta.me works here in germany, so i can follow my chilean team from the distance

Alcinei Machado Your comment represents everything that's wrong with South America

@@jayjayokocha8196 what is wrong with that

@@jayjayokocha8196 I love football and I live in SA. But I have to agree

Bruno Andre Verdade mano, até na libertadores é dificil a comunicação So nos falamos português

Da pra entender perfeitamente

O português não é soh uma língua falada na América do Sul, é A língua mais falada do continente

Verdade...

Henrique Martins el portugués es la lengua más hablada del continente ?

El mio la ganó 7 veces!!!

GRÊMIO!

Diego Ignacio colo colo das vergüenza, no pudiste defender la copa Sudamericana y dejaste que un equipo mexicano se lo lleve

🏆🏆🏆

5 Veces!

yes

just that. Majority of leagues are terrible. Obvs Brasil and Argentina are excluded.

Are they? IMO the brasileirão is not that good anymore, even though we still produce great talented players

Compared to Colombian, Uruguayan(??), and Paraguayan, they're way better than them

define "real"...

Ұoung V.M. Kkkkkk também fiquei na dúvida.

Pelo que eu entendi, são os jogadores que ja ganharam a libertadores. Dai ele da uma lista de jogadores. Mas acho que aquele cara não é willian arão.

Era pra ser o Willian do Chealsea, pra mostrar que grandes jogadores já jogaram a Libertadores porém pegaram a foto do Arão no lugar do outro kkkkk

Hay mucho chileno en el video, esa es la razon! Que saben de futbol???

kkkkkk essa foi foda mesmo era pra ser o william do chelsea sou botafoguense mas essa foi de rachar....kkk

South American fans are fucking awesome as well, I'd love to some day do a football trip through South America to attend games.

What do you mean by talented? MOST OF THE TALENT I. EUROPEAN TEAMS IS SOUTH AMERICAN! You've gotta get your ideas clear here.

A fight of two blind people is more unpredictable and exciting than the fight of two normal people...

The one who knocks the difference between South american and europan teams get wider every year. Sad.

José Lemus That's because of the amount of money in each continent. Unfortunately, there are a lot of thieves ruling the football in South America

When a great team of Brazil win the Libertadores, European team should be afraid. Corinthians crushed Real Madrid in 2000 and Chelsea in 2012.

Kelvin Criști sai dai seu curintiano... 2000 kkkk

The one who knocks europe doesn't care about the club world cup

odeio a LDU bicho, simplesmente odeio. Meu sonho eh uma revanche com o Fluminense

Eric Cerqueira Mendes jajajajajajaja hijo bobo

vititoz Fluminense vs LDU...

But the quality is better in UCL game. I wish the South American teams had better stadiums: better fields, lighting, and stands.

onlyspicysalsa the stands and stadiums are fine

onlyspicysalsa Brazilian stadiums are just like the European ones, Argentinian, Chilean and Uruguayan ones are quite decent, the other ones are shit

You must have never watched a single UCL game

F Major K I wouldn't say that

Well I do understand your point, but it's not the fact that "European fans are boring", a lot of small European clubs have a lot of passionate fans, the ones that are boring are unfortunantly the ones that get the most attention, the rich big club fans

I agree but just because they don't blow up as much stuff and light as much fire doesn't mean they aren't passionate. Also the big clubs don't represent all of Europe. Eastern European and others can create great atmosphere. Turkish, German, Portuguese, Scottish to name a few have passionate fans

Of course it's not better in terms of talent. Europe buys every talent coming out here.

Bundesliga fans are awesome in my opinion.

No hables pavadas ese fue pelé

Es así

Alexander Schaefer why? Conmebol just wants mls teams and ligaMx teams for the money and ratings. Also, mls teams would get smashed, its bettef for them to try winning a concacaf champions league

Well I'm a nycfc supporter. Playing in the libratadores would be an amazing opportunity to go to the games and see much better teams. For conmebol, yeah I don't see any benefits for them except money. I love CCL but libratadores is much better and more fun.

Alexander Schaefer yeah. CCL is really boring, its literally ligamx teams vs mls teams.

Yeah this year there was one great matchup between dallas and pachuca. Seeing acosta and lozano was fun. But the rest of the tourney was a dud.

Libertadores is for South America only.

AndruL20 si de verdad flasharon nunca la juegan y nunca la ganaron a diferencia de estudiantes q gano 4

Santiago Dupetit GILnasia?

Santiago Dupetit aguante el lobo respete el templo grande Alberto Raimundi

Qué es un Gimnasia ?

aunque parece raro... alguna vez la jugo

If South American players stayed in South America it'd be a real spectacle. I always find myself wondering what the footballing landscape would be like now if the power shifted in the opposite direction.

It would be insane , Imagine a Santos side with Neymar playing against a Vasco side with Coutinho in the Libertadores

Because this South American win the last 4 world cup, win the last editions of the WC u20 and u17, and the best player of the world Modric is Colombian

Tony Harley agree with you, uefa is shit, it's a matter of time until they kick the "small" leagues out of the UCL, they are already accepting less teams from those countries. They only care about the big rich leagues, they're ruining the competition. Ps: Got to add that Portuguese fans are also very passionate

Yes UEFA and Sky will kill European football. There will be no underdogs and it will be the same teams every year playing each other. And yes there are other leagues with great fans including Portugal and also Germany, some Italian fans but they aren't really at the same level as South Americans anymore

Tony Harley Naah, in my opinion, those european "underdogs" are irrelevant and wont make a difference. When was the last time one of them ever reached the finals or even win the Champions League? The last time was in 2004 between Porto and Monaco, and never again. Its not the same as in South America, where underdogs constantly make it to the finals. In my opinion, the Champions League will benefit from not having so much irrelevant competitors that rarely ever do anything significant. And in case someone tries to argue "but here UEFA referees always rob underdogs from deserved wins"...dude, Im from South America and I can attest that referee robberies here are as rampant as in Europe. You're not really missing much over there. Just the last year Atletico Nacional from Colombia had it's share of suspicious moments in it's path to winning the title.

I can agree with you more guys, I am French and we have some good fans such as: St Etienne, Marseille,Lyon,Psg(before Qatar Money), Rc Lens, etc. And I start to hate champions league every year it is the same shit, the same club (Real Madrid,Barca,Bayern,Juventus and maybe Atletico) all those rich clubs that just brings more glory hunters. I am not going to lie every night I watch Libertadores on live on RU-vid and it is so much different the atmosphere, you can see that people are ready to die for their club and their colors. I hate that today everybody now supports the same shit saying that these clubs are in their blood but yet doesn't even know a player in the team. I hate that today football is just a matter of money and commercial for example Paul Pogba With his Adidas advertisement. Even the football culture had died I miss when I was a child that me and my friends were all playing football on the streets playing with a ball that every time finished on a tree 😂 However I hate today when I see all these kids just dabbing and all with the same jersey (Real,Barca) and fighting for a team that they will never meet instead of supporting their local club.

Turkey is not in Europe xd

;)

Wat

GreenStainMV mundial. Apenas kkkkkkkk

GreenStainMV cadê seu mundial??

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Cadê seu mundial porco imundo?

#Nacional, Penarol (Uruguai) #Boca, River Plate, Racing, Independiente, San Lorenzo, Estudiantes (Argentina) #Corinthians, São Paulo, Palmeiras, Santos, Flamengo, Vasco, Botafogo, Fluminense, Internacional, Gremio, Cruzeiro, Atletico MG (Brasil) #Atlético Nacional, Once Caldas, Santa Fe (Colombia) #Olimpia, Cerro Porteno, Guarani, Liberad (Paraguai) #Colo Colo, LaU, Universidad Catolica (Chile) #LDU Quito, Emelec, Barcelona Guayaquil (Equador) #The Strongest, Bolivar (Bolivia) #Alianza Lima, Sporting Cristal (Peru) #Caracas (Venezuela) Some South American teams that are difficult to face or have tradition.

Juan Pe not peñarol that team has been garbage since like the 1990s they live off of history that happened half a century ago

Erick Torres Peñarol is in a bad moment but they make it to the final in 2011 and it's the third team that won this cup more times and with Boca the two teams that played more finals (10), also they have amazing fans and is one of the greatest teams of South America .

Juan Pe Racing? hahahahhahaha

where is santos,the biggest team of south america,had Pelé,Neymar and 3 libertadores,2 more than palmeiras,flamengo and Corinthians

Sure...

Maico Antiñir ya va hablar mierda, entonces por que no hacen una copa donde solo jueguen equipos de Brasil y argentina ? Y asi los equipo argentinos dejan de comprar copas

Gothic fx comprar copas jajaja

Es una falacia es no reconocer la pasion que genera el futbol en america latina, soy Argentino y me lamenta leer este comentario. Se nota que conoces poco y nada nuestro continente. Brasil y Argentina son los numeros 1 y 2 pero en cuestion de pasion en toda Latino america se vive el futbol a mil. Vamos River!!!!

Maico Antiñir Este pendejo no tiene neuronas en la cabeza. En todo el vídeo se la pasaron diciendo que la Libertadores es mejor porque es impredecible y cualquier equipo puede ganar y viene con idioteses de Argentina y Brasil. Es que la gente estupida venimos en todo color, forma y tamaño.

@@Alex-V.S Todos le dan vida. Pero los mejores siempre serán Argentina y Brasil.