Is The DODGE AVENGER The Best Used Car On The Market 

I just got a 2008 Dodge Avenger Sxt V6 Flex Fuel 2.7

Thank you lol I feel better after seing this. I just bought a blue 08 for 4,200k Miles for 4200 bucks

My engine light turned off when I was beating on her she was happy to be used the way she supposed to be!! They definitely throw fits if you baby them!

@@tylermarchetti1449 I got the same car homie

@@dustindenton8152 honestly a huge steal

We've never had an issue with powertrain!

Automatic transmission??

Much appreciated. We’re neighbors! I’m in New Brunswick on the Main Border!

Happy wife happy life!

I have the same one. So reliable. I bought it used it had 42,000 miles. Now it's 82,000.

Glad you liked it!

Glad you liked it!

LOL! They are good running engines!

I'm looking to find a 2.4 patriot with a 5 speed manual

I couldn't say for sure if it's a good deal as your market is different than mine, but seems fair with the low mileage.

No idea! But you’re off to a good start!

@@OldeCarrGuy Thanks!

You can replace both bearings for peace of mind, but generally only replacing the one that is bad is necessary!

If by bad lot you mean anything domestic, you might be right! lol

It’s possible your master cylinder is failing! If you remove it from the vacuum booster, check for fluid between the two!

@OldeCarrGuy I appreciate the response. I'll give that a check.

That's a lot of running!

Just like most domestics, they are cheaply made in comparison to the Japanese brands!

I've actually been eyeing the Avenger as what might be my next knock-around when my '03 PTC finally decides it's done (though that is starting to seem quite some time away.)

Thanks Mike. I haven’t done a video on the heater core but there are lots out there! The evaporator is not the same!

Stay away from the Dart!

Dart is a good car: I had one for for years and I never had issues with it until I crashed it

The 4 cylinder engine had a wire harness about an inch thick that ran across the engine and would chafe on the back corner of the head and cause some electrical problems!

It’s a timing chain engine. No worries at that mileage.

Great! Thanks! Timing BELT on my 2008 VW Bora GLI (I'm in Mexico) broke and caused me a total engine rebuild. After shop rebuilt the head, the car developed oil consumption from a damaged Piston, so we rebuilt the bottom half of the engine. Car still didn't run right. Sold it cheap to get away from it. 3 years of endless problems, mostly electrical.

But a minor inconvenience in the big picture.

@OldeCarrGuy Not minor to have to take off body panels to get to a battery every few years.

Happy to help!

I Bought my 2013 Dodge Avenger in March of 2019 with 89,000 mi for 7 grand ! havent had any major problems at all ! i currently have 114,000 mi. she is a Gem🙂

I’m checking one out today with 100k miles and replaced tranny struts and wheel bearings for $4500

I just bought a 2012 w 140k miles for 3k. Is this bad ? It’s driven great so far

I bought my 2013 dodge avenger at $5500 with 88,000 miles. I’m at 101,000 miles on it now and have only had to replace the battery and a couple of other things not a bad car.

Usually you don’t replace the knuckles, just the bushings in the knuckles. There’s three of them in a kit from rockauto for less than $30 per side plus 2-3 hours labor at most shops. $3500 seems fair!

water pump is in the oil pan and when the seal goes bad antifreeze gets into the oil That is why the 2.7 is known as the sludge engine. Keep a close watch on your oil and if you see the oil starting to look like a milkshake get it to a service person right away. If you continue to drive it you will ruin the bearings and the engine will be toast.

Unfortunately, do not have a specific relay for the starter as it’s built in the computer.

Here's a summery of what we do: ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-iWucnEBROOk.htmlsi=2YnTrQQoZgCDaiDB

Minor stuff!

Go for it!

@@OldeCarrGuy Appreciate the reply! I shall.

Sure it sucks when you have to change it, but it’s not like it’s a persistent problem with the car like the rear suspension! The battery is easier than having to change an alternator or starter!

Know you are a bit more informed!

Update, I now have a 2011 Dodge Avenger Lux

How’s it been treating yah?

We sell a lot of Elantra and Forte. Great cars. Some had engine issues, but Kia and Hyundai both have replaced the engine for us due to this known issue at no cost and out of regular warranty. Lets see GM, Ford or Dodge do that!

@@OldeCarrGuy do you have any thoughts on the Sante Fe and the Sonota? which are the better years and engine choices?

How about the Hyudai Azera and the Vera Cruz with the 3.8? and the KIA Sorentos are they OK as a used car? thx

@@RedQNZ I like the Santa Fe with 2.0 turbo.

@@OldeCarrGuy Um i know several people personally who have been f ed by hyundai / kia. All Are made cheap end of story for me. Their recall history is horrendous

Which of the two cars ride and handle better?

I've always been partial to the Fusion overall.

@@OldeCarrGuy Thanks for weighing in -- I appreciate it - maybe you could do a comparison video lol - well thanks for your input it is good to know about other cars other than Toyota and Honda - those are so expensive now

I think the Fusion might be more comparable to the Chrysler 200 than to the Avenger.

It depends on the year. The 06-09 Fusion is preferable to the 08-10 Avenger as the early years suffered from some cost cutting from Cerberus. The Fusion in its original form was very reliable especially with the 3.0 duratec and Aisin 6 transmission and hydraulic steering. Remember that the early Fusion was very heavily based on the Mazda 6 which had been on the market starting around 02-03 so by the time the Fusion started most of the bugs were fixed. Starting around 10-12, the Fusion started having problems as Ford dropped the bulletproof Aisin 6 speed for the 3.0 duratec and used their joint venture 6F35. The early years of this had shift flare issues. They switched to electric steering (look up the EPAS problems). Also the rare Sport model has the 3.5 cyclone V6 which has a timing chain driven water pump which can go without warning (note the Chrysler 2.7 had the same design flaw). Around 11, the Avenger was updated showing FCA having added an increase in investment in the build quality and using better materials. The Avenger by this point has most of the bugs worked out of it in the 4 cylinder application. The Pentastar was new for '11. My understanding is it wasn't a common problem, but they were known to at times have head issues. There's also the plastic oil filter housing that you have to be very careful not to overtighten as it is very brittle. 4-cylinder would probably be the safer bet. They came in either the four speed or the six-speed transmission. To summarize, The earlier years a fusion would probably be more reliable, the later years The Avenger would probably be more reliable.

Seems high for an 09. I’m a dealer and I currently have a 12 on my lot for less than that with 150k miles. But my market may be different than yours!

@@OldeCarrGuyI’m in Chicago so probably.

I did! Several times!

I am inclined to agree to a point. You see, most mid to low middle class families aren’t in a position to pay the higher retail prices of the Japanese cars. I’m just trying to show decent alternatives. Oven if it is for a short term! Thanks for sharing

@@OldeCarrGuy well said. I've been trying to respond coherently but could figure out The right wording

Check the main wire harness that crosses the front corner of the head on the transmission side of the engine. It’s known to chafe through the harness and create a short.

@@OldeCarrGuy will do I’ll report back when I checked it .

I mean it's flannel...

I don't recall singling you out, but if the shoe fits! lol

Got a little change in my pocket going jingle lingle ling...

Likely a failing door lock actuator. It keeps thinking the door is opening when it’s not and triggers the alarm. If it has a remote starter that’s not factory installed, it too could be messing with security!

@@OldeCarrGuy How do i stop it?

@@zmamii69 You'll need to have it diagnosed properly. I can't make any suggestions without seeing the car. Sorry!

@@OldeCarrGuy 0o thanks alot

I’m not sure we’ve ever replaced one and we live in the salt belt!

@@OldeCarrGuy I wanted to jack it up from the center (subframe) until I came across videos pointing out the faulty subframe on the Avenger. There’s quite a few videos online. Thanks for your videos and fast response! I just subbed to your channel.

Much appreciated sir!

Much appreciated!

Prices aren't THAT much higher. 17-18" are the new norm when it comes to tire sizes.

Wrong. At least where I live. There is a major jump in price when you go to an 18 inch rim. You buy then then because I just walk away. Besides around here big hoops are known as N Wheels. You decipher that.

Sorry but I'm going to have to disagree with you. Not because I sell a pile of these things, but we do service them as well and not once have we ever had a engine or transmission failure in the 15 years we've been in business. Are they perfect? Of coarse not, they have their issues, sure, but so does every other manufacturer out there.

My apologies!

A moving expressive hand is a technique people are incorporating these days. IMHO a distraction. Others may not agree with me just wanted to give you another perspective.. @@OldeCarrGuy

@@mikedenney1568I appreciate your honesty!

It’s a subjective opinion based on the luck we’ve had. Do they have their issues, sure! But so does every car. Thanks for commenting!

And what does travis clarkin drive?

@@OldeCarrGuy new hondas..and an ecoboost Ford. Definitely not an avenger. I’d drive a 20 year old Kia before I daily drove an avenger…im a bmw master tech for 17 years..I thought BMWs were the most unreliable car in the world until I started dating a girl who owned an avenger..I quickly realized bmw was no longer the shittiest car money could buy

@@travisclarkin4277 how did you not if she did something to it before you dated her?

@@travisclarkin4277 Sorry travis but he is right they are a pretty good reliable car and not to expensive.Mine is 10 years old and next to nothing has gone wrong with it.

@@travisclarkin4277 I own the 2012 dodge avenger sxt and we've been together since 2014! Up and down the highways and byways, the hills and valleys! And we are still rocking together-I will say that it's important to maintain the car no matter what you drive...we're at 161000 miles and the only issue that I've had is choosing the wrong maintenance company to work on my car, my mistake and never made it again! Very good vehicle-mines is red and it shines beautiful wherever we go! the center console does have a crack in it and the door handles have peeled and yes are sharp and will cut...to eaches own though!