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Is the Grimsmo Norseman still relevant? (Deep dive review) 

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@hupkat
@hupkat 2 года назад
My Norseman is from November 2021. Zero blade play horizontal or vertical from the maker and it has the signature drop shut action. No double bounce either.
@blackcat86900
@blackcat86900 3 года назад
I have a Norseman and mine doesn’t do that. The flipper tab could be a little larger. I like the design.
@sirosis1971
@sirosis1971 2 года назад
I just got my first Norseman, #546, so it's an older one, but mine has none the issues you mentioned. No double bounce, no play either direction. That said I didn't pay retail but I am happy with it and plan on carrying it to put it through my usual testing.
@guillermocortes3783
@guillermocortes3783 3 года назад
Now I don’t feel so bad I can’t afford a Norseman.
@matthewsharpton9256
@matthewsharpton9256 3 года назад
You keep saying “it’s made by a machine” like it doesn’t take hundreds of machining processes and months of development to get the CNC programmed. I’d rather have a CNC machined knife over a hand machined knife personally. 🤷🏻‍♂️
@martialhealth4062
@martialhealth4062 3 года назад
Most of these knife prices is just getting stupid ridiculous. That full custom piece is awesome! Thanks for the review!
@mainlyoctober
@mainlyoctober 3 года назад
I really appreciate this honest review brother. I think it’s fair for all of us who love knives to get an honest review like this. Earned a sub here good sir!
@littlejackalo5326
@littlejackalo5326 2 года назад
Almost every person that's buying a thousand dollar knife is going to adjust the pivot. I don't think there's a single person buying $1000 knives, that you have to get picked in a lotto to buy, and aren't adjusting the pivot at the very least; while most are taking it apart.
@northernninety7
@northernninety7 2 года назад
Exactly, people who buy at that price point are knife nerds and want to tinker with them and care about small details.
@CrazySharp
@CrazySharp 3 года назад
Mine has 0 play when tight and still drops shut. I appreciate the fact that it’s your opinion, I don’t agree but it’s your opinion. I do like my artisan knives, enough that I designed for them.
@RedwolfEDC
@RedwolfEDC 3 года назад
Brother i have so much respect for you, you approached this beautifully. Nearly everyone who disagreed with me did so with venom and vehemence. But you hit the nail on the head, everything I said is simply my experience and opinion, I am entitled to mine and you are absolutely entitled to yours. Thank you for being so level headed brother, it means more then you know. 🙏
@CrazySharp
@CrazySharp 3 года назад
@@RedwolfEDC You should just go and see the heat that I get on my Emerson videos that I did on my channel… I’m not an Emerson knife fan and I 100% state it’s my opinion but my God do the fan boys try to tear me a new one
@RedwolfEDC
@RedwolfEDC 3 года назад
@@CrazySharp i shot you a sub and I am watching it now.
@KB-kw8ni
@KB-kw8ni 3 года назад
Oh stfu and get off your high horse
@faretheewell3711
@faretheewell3711 3 года назад
I've never seen a norseman with play, the drop shut has nothing to do with a loose pivot. Not sure where that one came from. I would say this is the first time I've seen anyone claim the drop shut is because of a loose pivot and a bunch of play. Do you honestly think they would have the amount of fans if poor QC was a hallmark of their brand regardless of their marketing? Its not logical.. Those guys are obsessive perfectionists who have constantly tweaked the norseman as well as the rask. I use my shit and definitely check blade play lock up etc.
@RedwolfEDC
@RedwolfEDC 3 года назад
Yes I do sir, I very much believe they would have the type of attention and fan base they do if they had QC issues. I literally have a Norseman in my hand, that I purchased with my own money and I am literally showing you the issues, instead of just telling you. Yet when presented with proof, evidence and something you can see with your own eyes, you immediately get defensive, which is exactly why these issues exist and they continue to exist. At the end of the video I say it very clearly, “Honestly I don’t dislike this knife, I’ve bought four of them. With that being said though, as a unbiased reviewer, as all reviewers should be I cannot help but acknowledge all of the problems this knife has” this video is not an attack on you or your purchase brother, it’s just an honest, upfront, unbiased review of a product.
@faretheewell3711
@faretheewell3711 3 года назад
@@RedwolfEDC I don't even own one anymore im not a huge fan of the blade shape, but the point is claiming the drop shut action is only bc of a loose pivot is completely false, you are essentially implying every single knife leaves their shop with a loose pivot because everyone drops shut like that. Why would you buy four of a knife that has blade play unless you tighten the pivot to the point of not flipping, makes no sense. Also the evidence isn't "right in front of me" it's behind a youtube video.
@RedwolfEDC
@RedwolfEDC 3 года назад
I tried to illustrate it to the best of my ability brother, if I failed at properly proving and showing my point then I apologize for my failure.
@KB-kw8ni
@KB-kw8ni 3 года назад
@@faretheewell3711 cry more
@2ISWAG
@2ISWAG 3 года назад
Always appreciate someone taking the time to review a product, however this sounds more like a personal rant. Furthermore, taking the time to edit shots of JG's face in your video in such a crafty manner also makes this seem personal. I have a variety of makers in my collection which includes a 2021 Norseman that has none of the issues you have pointed out. Perhaps you should take advantage of the warranty and send the knife back to Grimsmo for inspection of the issues you speak of... It's the practical thing to do vs continuing to buy their knives and complain about it. From looking at their channel, I see nothing but transparency in their knife making process.
@RedwolfEDC
@RedwolfEDC 3 года назад
Nothing personal about it brother, I just called it like I saw given my own personal experiences.
@ttjarrett
@ttjarrett 2 года назад
Grimsmo's manufacturing methodology seems pretty bizarre to me. He's completely over done his equipment purchases, with the Kern mill being the height of absurdity. It's like buying a cruise missile to deal with the rats in your barn.
@tombrown8800
@tombrown8800 3 года назад
This is kinda what I expected regarding these & some other high dollar folders. Full disclosure, I have never paid more than a quarter of that for a knife. So I just lost most of the audience & anyone left feels bad for me. If I pay $4-500 dollars for a knife I would expect perfection. Thanks for this video.
@AgntColtron47
@AgntColtron47 3 года назад
I've had 2 and the only real problem for me, is that it needs more material. Just too light for me. I would only buy another if the color combo was and handle grinding was EXACTLY how I want it. $900+ is just too much for what you get. Too many little problems.
@ishukoneds8960
@ishukoneds8960 5 месяцев назад
own around 10 norseman now (just really dig the design and different color pattern combinations), and yes the bounce can be annoying (i think it's due to the blade itself being too heavy, maybe), but no any other issus, and what I did to all my norseman is to simply tighten the pivot, I don't like the drop shut anyway, I find it works perfectly, the action of both deployment and shutting is still smooth as silk, love it even more then the drop shut. The price is definitely high, but for me, as long as I like it, as long as I want it, and as long as I can afford it, I really don't care about the price
@cobraframebuilding
@cobraframebuilding 3 года назад
"What it's worth" is a ridiculous idea. John makes a product and charges what he does. If he can charge a lot and people still want it, good for him. It doesn't matter what these other knives feel like or cost because they're completely different products sold at different scales with different brands, different meaning etc etc etc. I feel like you're trying to slam JG for succeeding with a product that you don't particularly like, and it doesn't really matter how you feel about it. His success is a measure of what other people think about it.
@DS-ep9pp
@DS-ep9pp 3 года назад
Agreed!
@DWhite-el4ih
@DWhite-el4ih 3 года назад
I know what you’re trying to say, but it still reads as “if he can rip people off and get away with it, great!”
@LizardHunter777
@LizardHunter777 2 года назад
@@DWhite-el4ih If you're getting a product you enjoy at a price you are willing to pay then you're not getting "ripped off". You're not paying for the worlds most functional or best made knife, most owners will never even use theirs, what you're paying for is a collection piece. No one is forcing anyone to buy one...and yet they are clearly still in demand.
@DWhite-el4ih
@DWhite-el4ih 2 года назад
@@LizardHunter777 If you’re not paying for a knife made well enough to justify the cost then why are you buying it?
@nicholasdaoust3686
@nicholasdaoust3686 2 года назад
Couldn’t agree more. Supply/demand=success as a proof of performance.
@guerillamike5150
@guerillamike5150 3 года назад
This will probably ruffle some feathers but it’s great to see a difference of opinion. A lot of other reviewers just co-sign to what the higher up reviewers say. It’s good to see a giant ginger come through and wreck shop! Love and respect the honesty, as always.
@RedwolfEDC
@RedwolfEDC 3 года назад
Oh it definitely has
@Yeastherder
@Yeastherder 3 года назад
I think you need to tighten the pivot screw. Thats why you get a torx driver with it.
@RedwolfEDC
@RedwolfEDC 3 года назад
You sir are a genius, I never thought about that even though some guy who looks like me totally did that somewhere in this video. 😒 🤔
@Yeastherder
@Yeastherder 3 года назад
@@RedwolfEDC just saying, mine doesnt do that. So you either have a defect or you need to play with the screw. Even a rolex watch has to be repaired at times.
@neildrake1812
@neildrake1812 3 года назад
Thanks for your honesty. You don't see this very often.
@majorpain1251
@majorpain1251 3 года назад
$960? Wow! That double-tap would drive me crazy.
@DonaldPerreault
@DonaldPerreault Год назад
I owned Norseman, carried it for a bit and eventually sold it. I've had an itch to try it again becauseI did like the knife. However, for the money there are dozens of knives that I would rather carry, many of which can't be had ;( Thank you for reminding me that the Norseman isn't the best EDC knife and just in time because I was seriously contemplating buying another.
@JamesWilson-lg7bx
@JamesWilson-lg7bx 3 года назад
Well I must have got a good one,because mine has no blade play up or down or side to side ,also it has no bounce back when it closes,it actually has really good drop shot action. 💎
@RedwolfEDC
@RedwolfEDC 3 года назад
If you are willing to send it in and all of that is true I will happily make a video showcasing that brother. This wasn’t meant to cause controversy or to simply bash a brand, I have owned 4 of these, 3 direct from Grimsmo and the issues have been consistent in them all.
@EDCandLace
@EDCandLace 3 года назад
You notice no reply? It's a total RIP off of a knife... I have 200 dollar knives that will blow it out the water all day long... I have owned two of them
@noahceteras259
@noahceteras259 2 года назад
The bounce is easily fixed by adjusting the pivot.
@RedwolfEDC
@RedwolfEDC 2 года назад
The pivot was adjusted both on and off camera.
@joe_a_photo
@joe_a_photo 3 года назад
I love the look of the rask. Thanks for the review and for your take on the knife
@gradlemeritsmith5867
@gradlemeritsmith5867 2 года назад
My pivot is tight. The knife deploys and drops shut on it's own, no double bounce. I like mine and carry it a couple of times a week.
@Qexler
@Qexler 3 года назад
The double bounce is actually from the lock bar being very accurately tuned, the lock bar tension among all Norseman is very very light and consistent, this can be done because the detent is a flat detent and allows better launching of the blade with very light lock bar tension. Having such a light tension on the lock bar and perfect tolerances for the detent will make it bounce before the light lock bar can engage to the closed position.
@BuffaloNickel9
@BuffaloNickel9 3 года назад
And....... that's a good thing because? You want a very bouncy knife? You want a knife where if you tighten the pivot even a little bit you can't deploy the knife? Sorry, Honestly just asking...fill me in with your opinion
@Qexler
@Qexler 2 года назад
@@BuffaloNickel9 Never once had trouble deploying it if I snugged up the Pivot. Bounce would also go away. But if you want to then you can adjust these to drop so quickly that they will bounce back from detent because the lock bar is very light. Nothing hurts lock up or safety, it’s just a well thought out design that is extremely smooth.
@BuffaloNickel9
@BuffaloNickel9 2 года назад
@@Qexler oh okay, so you can snug it up and do away with the bounce if n desired?
@profesorEDC
@profesorEDC 3 года назад
I freaking love these videos brother. Thank you you and more of these❗👍😊
@philo2197
@philo2197 Год назад
Don’t have those issues with my Norseman from 2021. I believe my Norseman I previously had in 2018 had those issues though.
@RedwolfEDC
@RedwolfEDC Год назад
Hopefully they have improved their quality control
@MattP-BandB
@MattP-BandB 3 года назад
I wanted one so bad. I live half an hour from where they’re made. So wanted to support a local maker. I had the opportunity to handle a friend’s and totally changed my mind. I could not believe how sloppy it was! The double tap on close is straight-up disgusting in my opinion. Thanks for the honest thoughts on this overrated POS. You have done a service to those is the knife community to counter the Shabazz effect 🖖
@RedwolfEDC
@RedwolfEDC 3 года назад
I’m just being honest brother and that is all I will ever be. Also if you want to support Canadian made then get a North Arms Skaha, because those are fantastic knives for a very fair price. Thank you for your comment brother.
@grantsypants4743
@grantsypants4743 3 года назад
Im so glad I watched this….I just got an email to buy a citrus with blue accents one of these. Not anymore.
@BuffaloNickel9
@BuffaloNickel9 3 года назад
The Shabazz effect is disgusting to me as that double tap closing
@anthonyb7003
@anthonyb7003 2 года назад
To be fair in his last Norseman review shabazz did mention all of the same points Red did, he basically said in 2021 what you get doesn’t match the price point at all. But yes I agree about the shabazz effect.
@lucasagnew4613
@lucasagnew4613 3 года назад
Weird my 2019 model didn't have these issue.
@RedwolfEDC
@RedwolfEDC 3 года назад
I can only speak about what I have experienced first hand, nothing more and nothing less. I honestly hate putting out anything close to negative, I want every knife and every maker to be incredible.
@mrglock2002
@mrglock2002 3 года назад
I always wanted one of these and had so many opportunities to get one and now I'm glad I didn't thanks for the video
@jdemeter4357
@jdemeter4357 3 года назад
I bought a cold steel Rajah 2 , put a wicked edge and reworked the inside. Polished everything and smooth out anything that slowed it .Now drops shut smooth and fast with no bounce, the lock releases without much effort but the down side is that bastard bit me. Took off tip of little finger and finger nail.😘😘😘😘🤗
@bakpakb
@bakpakb 3 года назад
Great Vid Bro! I love your perspective on it. Did you make this in lumafusion? there are some great cuts in there!
@RedwolfEDC
@RedwolfEDC 3 года назад
Nope LumaFusion is confusing 😂, this is all on iMovie still 😂
@shawnpage6615
@shawnpage6615 Год назад
I'm not sure it was ever worth it as a user, but it still has its place as a collector's item. I own a ton of knives ranging in value from $20 to $5000, and really I find the most utility from knives in the $50-$200 range. Above that you're just buying the joy you experience from adding it to your collection. Don't get me wrong, the quality is very clear at the high end of that range. But that doesn't make it any more useful as a tool.
@23reasonz
@23reasonz 2 года назад
I bought a rep version of it for around 150. Thats what that knife is really worth. You can't tell the difference between the two other than the knife steel used (rep uses m390) . Same titanium and same everything else. IF I put them sided by side you wouldn't be able to tell which is which. I feel anything over 200 for a knife is ridiculous unless its made of some sort of precious metal. I sold the original and use the rep without the worry of damaging it. Im very happy with it. I would not recommend anyone spending 1000 for a norseman. He started making these at 450- then 500 then 900 now over 1K. Sorry production costs are supposed to go down not up. Yes he bought some impressive equipment that he probably didn't have to. I find it hard to believe that all his business is strictly knives. He must be manufacturing other parts / contract work to sustain the business .
@forestbirdoriginals4917
@forestbirdoriginals4917 3 года назад
I feel like maybe you havent heard of a torque wrench or how they are intended to be used. They are used specifically to prevent that mis-judgement you had in "tight" that causes the knife not to operate correctly. Having a torque window for that type of bearing is perfectly normal. Too much pressure and you begin to limit the fluid motion, requiring a stronger input force. And too loose, obviously you can have a loose assembly. Sure yours might have been too loose from factory. Stuff happens. Where the community appreciates Grimsmo, is not in the flashiness of the product. Its because they appreciate all the time and energy that is shown in that product. People like to buy things where they can see how their made. Which is YES, marketing. Guitar players are more likely to pay top dollar to watch the luthier make their guitar online. Its special. Its unique. Its something people are willing to pay for. I dont think people think Grimsmo knives are the most well engineered knife in existence. But I think people like to see what they get for their money by watching the process, knowing they are always looking for ways to improve their products, and knowing who their money is going to. You dont need the best product if you feel good about the transaction you made. Some people will just never be happy with what they purchase, or fight back against community hype. People like the underdog, and when that underdog becomes the popular or mainstream guy... people who dont want to be part of the crowd walk away. If you want the best knife for your money, maybe dont buy a Grimsmo knife. But if youre happy with your transaction, and you want to support the man making the product. Then give him your money. You dont have to be the best to be on top. Sometimes, you can suck ass and still sell a lot of product (Cough, FORD). Anyway, I sense a distain for the knife prior to your true assessment of the knife. So it makes it hard to trust this as a unbiased review. With that said, you have some good points that you were able to illustrate. This is a product for a process enthusiast, and not a knife enthusiast. Good luck.
@RedwolfEDC
@RedwolfEDC 3 года назад
Brother i have a video about the flawed processes of the knife reviewer that I think you should watch. Because in that video I state that i am forced to pick out all the little flaws, every issue that presents itself, even when in my humble opinion despite those issues I still enjoy the piece. Disdain is a very incorrect way to express my feelings for the knife, the company or the man. I have bought multiples of this knife and while I very much enjoyed them, I didn't love them, but I did like them and I still do like them.
@BParker55
@BParker55 3 года назад
Got to handle one in a shop the other day and the only thing that went through my head was "Why am I not impressed right now?" Lol 🤷
@SAKAYA22
@SAKAYA22 3 года назад
Information and absolutely honest review. Keep up great job! Subscribed.
@jdemeter4357
@jdemeter4357 3 года назад
It's a one hit wonder,but for me I am still wondering why.
@paulmills426
@paulmills426 Год назад
What about the rask? Should I buy a rask or the Holt knife that is similar?
@vincea5535
@vincea5535 3 года назад
Well said. The Shabazz hype is part of the marketing machine. Secondary prices have been plummeting on these. They once charged $500 for these before they jacked up the price without improving the quality.
@the808life
@the808life 2 года назад
More like the Plymouth prowler, just not discontinued or rare..
@RedwolfEDC
@RedwolfEDC 2 года назад
😆
@mrwoodchuck94
@mrwoodchuck94 3 года назад
I do have one and enjoy mine a lot, but it's not a grail because a grail should be something that's always out of your reach, I got mine from the second hand marked for a lot less than a new one, I don't have any blade play one mine, it flips and closes as it should, no double bounce eighter (the pivot is fully tightend too) , maybe i was lucky maybe you where unlucky I don't know about that and yea its not on the lvl of any of my customes i have
@Docknivesday
@Docknivesday 2 года назад
I have had three Norseman and never experienced any on this.
@RedwolfEDC
@RedwolfEDC 2 года назад
I'm glad to hear that man but I cannot speak about the quality of all the knives they produce, only the ones I have directly handled and used.
@nebuQloud
@nebuQloud 3 года назад
This was an excellent review! Thank you so much for being so straight forward. I really appreciate your delivery and all your comparisons. This is fantastic!
@kirkland0074
@kirkland0074 2 года назад
I hope my Chinese Hilberg $160 Norseman is better than this one, thanks for the review.
@RedwolfEDC
@RedwolfEDC 2 года назад
It very well might be.
@Gman1024
@Gman1024 3 года назад
Always Loved the norseman, but wouldn't shell out the chedda for it. Thanks for showcasing it though, I still Love the looks. Be safe.
@joebrennhofer307
@joebrennhofer307 3 года назад
Great review! I really don't see all the hype about several knives.
@David-vi9mm
@David-vi9mm 2 года назад
Great video, as always. Fortunately, I do not have any of those issues with my Norseman, and the drop shut on mine is one of the best in my collection. Thanks for making such interesting videos.
@RedwolfEDC
@RedwolfEDC 2 года назад
I will say I just got a rask recently and that thing is perfect.
@badmunkyedc1
@badmunkyedc1 3 года назад
Great and honest breakdown. I couldn't understand the price for it being a production knife. So many badass customs you can get for way less
@littlejackalo5326
@littlejackalo5326 2 года назад
Custom knives for less than $950? Whose?
@rajbasra8423
@rajbasra8423 Год назад
What a great rewiew....we need to send you more items to review outside of knives just for a very well thought out and unbiased look at a product.
@FlintandSteelSurvival
@FlintandSteelSurvival 3 года назад
Very interesting I've never handled one. Is the cutting edge actually hitting the standoff when it closes? Looked like it when you took it apart. I don't really like the blade shape so I've never pursued one.
@bobgox
@bobgox 3 года назад
Wow ...stumbled onto your channel by chance, and frankly was so refreshing to see someone speak real truth about all the EDC overpriced hype that seems to be popularized these days ...especially on YT, thank you. subbed, liked and shared !
@RedwolfEDC
@RedwolfEDC 3 года назад
Thank you so much, that means the world to me.
@bobgox
@bobgox 3 года назад
@@RedwolfEDC > you are most welcome RW, i sincerely appreciate your honest perspective and willingness to call B.S. where you see it, frankly it is great to see a brave soul like yourself call it out for the benefit of us average peps who could simply use a break from the mega-hype-train & product marketing dishonesty , as too many supposed custom makers/edc product sellers/manufacturers are way out of control & seemingly looking to take advantage of people based off of the enormous growth/popularity of the knife collecting/EDC/bushcrafting & prepping culture. thanks again man, look forward to more vids from you going forward and will be going thru your vid archives as well ! all the best :)
@patrickhanly7458
@patrickhanly7458 2 года назад
Very good conversation. I thought it was fair, honest, precise, funny and not overly negative. I got into modern knives and after a while started to wonder if people are buying $1000 knives just to open the boxes of new knives they got because they aren't really happy with the $1000 pocket knife they bought. So now I'm back to carrying a $50 American made Buck 112 in my back pocket, like I did as a kid. Built like a tank and cuts like a beast. Have you felt a 112 in your hand recently? Fills the hand with a perfect thumb rest and no concept of a hot spot. And a super cool patina to boot. If I get the urge to play with something, I take out my Slysz Bowie or PM2 and after I flick for awhile, they go back in the fancy knife case and the 112 goes in my back pocket and off I go.
@codybroadway8496
@codybroadway8496 3 года назад
Bro been watching a lot of your videos and I’m genuinely wonder in your opinion who are a few makers you would suggest for someone who is only expecting to ever buy one custom piece that I absolutely will be using and every day carrying.
@albaraki
@albaraki 2 года назад
I have one for a year now, it is really a joy to handle and play, but if you buy it for use, i don't recommend, you can buy cheaper stronger ones ..
@mikeking6686
@mikeking6686 3 года назад
I AIN'T shabazz enough to appreciate it, it's a pointless broken knife ;=[
@familyphotoshoot2413
@familyphotoshoot2413 3 года назад
Good review. Honest and fair opinions. I just picked up a Norseman of my own off the secondary market, and maybe I just got lucky because mine is in the sweet spot where it will drop shut without a bounce and there's no play in any direction. It did take a little tinkering with the pivot to get it there, though. I plan on carrying and using it a bunch to see how it breaks in and if there's any change in the action with the pivot tightened all the way down after it's had a while to break in. I paid about $150 less than retail and while I don't feel like I got ripped off, I do feel like I still slightly overpaid for the final product. Edit: I do agree about the flipper tab not being great. I tend to have pretty dry skin and I notice a tendency to slip off the tab.
@justinhorn2864
@justinhorn2864 3 года назад
Feeling before facts and logic is the New normal
@shawnlavigne9069
@shawnlavigne9069 6 месяцев назад
Good to know.
@Knifeboi
@Knifeboi 3 года назад
I don’t even like the Norseman but you straight up weren’t being fair man. When you were ‘demonstrating’ the action and ‘double click’, you were purposely not applying enough pressure to make your point. Then you applied more pressure to make your other point.. jerking it shut to make the detent bounce. You did that on purpose. There is obviously a theme to this video. I make and mod knives and I’ve handled over 20 Norsemans. So there is absolutely no bias to my comments. I don’t like it. But it’s most certainly not as bad as you make it out to be for this video..
@Watchandcutgearchannel
@Watchandcutgearchannel 3 года назад
I can honestly say I didn’t like the Norseman and held out until 2 years ago. I thought to myself let me see what this ugly knife is all about and get one... easy to flip low risk! Ended up loving it despite what anyone says either way. Your display of the pivot adjustment was sloppy in display and not convincing. I can also drop the blade without bouncing it on the stop pin. The flipper tab is great to me! Fits my hand great! And think it’s worth the price although I agree it’s on the higher end... I think the lube and tool is great. Presentation means not only good marketing but an extra step towards custom care. I completely disagree with almost everything you said .. I could film all your demonstration and spin it positively... so I’m not at all convinced 🤷‍♂️ big claim .. nice click bate but this one is biased and wrong on my opinion... not like that really matter s but it’s another comment 😂 I’ve literally have had the exact opposite experience with grimsmo 🤷‍♂️
@RedwolfEDC
@RedwolfEDC 3 года назад
Man people really need to look up the definition of click bait, because you and about 6 other people have all used the word incorrectly. You are aware that if the thumbnail matches the content of the video that it is the opposite of “click bait” right? There are also about 50 comments in my video as well as in the comments of the different groups I posted in, saying the same thing. Are all of them also wrong? 🤔 Not to mention I have owned 4 Norseman and 3 of those were direct from Grimsmo, did the factory also tune it wrong? You are entitled to your opinion brother, but a problem arrises when presented with increasing evidence and you simply ignore the issues. I’m glad you like your knife, brother, to be fair the majority of the people who have been agreeing with me have 2020 and 2021 labeled Norsemans, so perhaps there are recent QC issues that everyone is choosing to ignore. What I can tell you is I am not biased in the least and I have proven that time and time again, you and many others praise me for my honesty and integrity until it no longer suits your narrative and then you dismiss it as click bait. Here are a few facts about me that I have demonstrated time and time again, #1. I do not care in the least if I grow, this isn’t about subscribers or views man, I could give a fuck about any of that. If you like I can link you to my old travel, cigar and blog channel where I had 328k subs and I killed it all because it became a job and my love for the hobby died. #2. Everything I do, I do out of love and loyalty for this community and believe me I think long and hard before I put something like this out because John Grimsmo and his employees are apart of this community. #3. I have seen you comment on my videos and such before so obviously you have seen who I actually am and what I represent and that fact that you genuinely believe I would hurt this community for views or “click bait” genuinely hurts the hell out of my feelings man. If you want to have an actual intelligent conversation then my social media is linked in the description. Take care
@Watchandcutgearchannel
@Watchandcutgearchannel 3 года назад
@@RedwolfEDC I called it Clickbait it’s not a correct representation of the product.. It’s a controversial statement made of course it’s going to get a lot of hits. I’m not necessarily saying that’s what your videos all about. I am saying that I completely disagree with it and I don’t think it was a fair representation. I think you’re a pretty smart guy and you seem to know your stuff pretty well so I don’t think I have to say much more. I’m not being negative just to be negative. I think if anything most reviewer‘s have become way too critical on these products after all they are knives and they do cut very well. You said grimsmo never innovates.. i’m all about that if it ain’t broke don’t fix it attitude. Personally I don’t really see many needs for improvement... maybe just a new model. They’re constantly upgrading their equipment, I know a couple years ago they upgraded to cryo-he treats. So improvement seems to be some thing that they are doing. Everything I know about this brand contradicts what you said. I still respect your opinion and very much like the way you made your presentation. Just is a misrepresentation IMO.
@BuffaloNickel9
@BuffaloNickel9 3 года назад
@@Watchandcutgearchannel yes, perhaps In Your Opinion its a misrepresentation and you've had different experiences but as Red Wolf properly stated... it's not clickbait because the content absolutely matches the title...that's a fact! I have no skin in the game. just my observation. Both of you are entitled to whatever the hell opinion you want to form Cheers
@Hunglikeagrimsmo
@Hunglikeagrimsmo 3 года назад
Honestly I've never had a custom that didn't have wonky edge grinds unless they're edge ground by a machine and not by hand. I'm actually at the point that I've gotten sick of wasting money on customs to just end up carrying a production knife so I don't screw up the expensive customs. But I also love my Norsemen but they never got used because there's no way in hell I'll ever be able to sharpen them. Mid tech and production knives are the way to go in my opinion especially if it's a Demko knife.
@jesser8369
@jesser8369 3 года назад
I want a Demko so freaking bad
@uncleted5543
@uncleted5543 3 года назад
I’ve wanted one of these for a long time. I had several opportunities and I couldn’t justify the price.
@markgoldstein6265
@markgoldstein6265 3 года назад
I love the fact you use your knives and brutally honest makes me like the videos man. Keep it up. Ill keep watching .
@RedwolfEDC
@RedwolfEDC 3 года назад
Thank you sir
@gtrul3s387
@gtrul3s387 Год назад
Hey man! First of all thanks for the vids. I appreciate honest reviews and opinions. With that being i have few questions. #1. Why would you have bought 4 norseman if you feel scammed for that price? Why giving your money to a guy who’s falsely advertising the quality of his products when it’s "obviously" not the case at all? #2 how did you adjust the action? Because on every knife that i own i need to adjust the pivot with micro turns to find the sweet spot(only exception is my sebenza because of its bushing) it’s seems that you’re screwing it way to much at the time from what i’ve seen. I don’t have a norseman(and would never because I don’t like the look at all) but i had the chance to handle few and the action was perfect in every way. No blade play of any kind and drop shut with the rebound(which i like strangely lol) #3 why bashing on shabazz? The reason i like him is exactly because he is critical and is not afraid to say what he likes or not on a knife. Im just curious man there’s no harm in any ways. I’m just really surprised because it’s the first time i hear that kind of review about Grimsmo. I have a rask tho and it’s literally perfect in every way. I can’t find anything on it and i’m REALLY picky. Thanks again!
@RedwolfEDC
@RedwolfEDC Год назад
I bought 4 because I was honestly convinced I got a dud but after having 4 different ones and them all being the same I decided to release a video. I adjusted the pivot over and over again but if I showed all that the video would be 15 minutes longer and drag like crazy. Also after I posted this video I got tons and tons of people saying they had similar issues with theirs. My main issue with grimsmo is the dishonesty of the company and all the crazy markets salesman stuff. Beyond that if you go to a show and grab any of their knives they will be perfect but that's not a accurate representation of what you get if you order one online because the QC really is all over the place. I also have a friend who works for grimsmo and there is some shady shit that goes on that I won't speak about cause it would involve breaking confidence and hurting my friend but if he ever quits and gives me permission i will release that video and you can watch their market share die. I really appreciate your comment and how respectful you were with your questions. Have a good day brother.
@thechad7803
@thechad7803 3 года назад
You can get a Norseman for about $500 right now on secondary if it makes you feel any better
@RedwolfEDC
@RedwolfEDC 3 года назад
I liked your first comment more, I respect brutality because it’s honest. Don’t censor yourself brother, especially not on my channel, all opinions are welcome here.
@thechad7803
@thechad7803 3 года назад
@@RedwolfEDC lol, that is a fugly custom but you know wanted to be kind to the maker and whatnot
@RedwolfEDC
@RedwolfEDC 3 года назад
@@thechad7803 Much better. Do you mean the yakuza? I haven’t watched this video since I edited it all together.
@thechad7803
@thechad7803 3 года назад
@@RedwolfEDC idk what is was but it was just terrible. I also hate the Norseman but did just spend an ungodly amount on a Rask 2.0 so 😬
@RedwolfEDC
@RedwolfEDC 3 года назад
@@thechad7803 Yeah I just watched it again, it’s my seraphim knives yakuza front flipper and I love that knife, but I also respect your opinion.
@LanningKann
@LanningKann 2 года назад
What about people who don’t have it and don’t want it? Lol I don’t follow trends. I buy staples that been proven designs. I own a few XMs now but waited years to get one. Literally years and multiple generations to buy one. In fact when they came out and we’re all the hype and pulling insane secondary prices, I refused to even consider one. 6 months ago I got my first. Now I have 3. And they are on Teflon.
@patrickg8744
@patrickg8744 3 года назад
I don't really understand why a $1000 knife that prides itself on being drop shutty is not on a bushing pivot...
@Handle-d5r
@Handle-d5r 2 года назад
Thank you broski for being honest Watching your reviews Help me make better choices
@RedwolfEDC
@RedwolfEDC 2 года назад
That's all I want man, I'm glad I could help.
@reneramdeen613
@reneramdeen613 3 года назад
I have my pivot dialed. Drop shut. No double bounce. Haters gonna hate
@MatthewMorse
@MatthewMorse 3 года назад
Interested to know if you've reached out to Grimsmo about the bounce and any blade play issues. I'd be curious to know if they would work on it to make it right or if they stand behind the fit and finish 100% and refuse to acknowledge any of the issues you're experiencing. I've seen other reviews of these without the bounce and blade play so I'm just wondering if Grimsmo would make this one perfect if given the option.
@RedwolfEDC
@RedwolfEDC 3 года назад
No response from them via email or Facebook, waited a few months then reached out to my maker friends in the community and now it's absolutely perfect, smooth as butter and drops like lightening. But that was made possible by this amazing community, not grimsmo.
@MatthewMorse
@MatthewMorse 3 года назад
@@RedwolfEDC Dang. Hate to hear that man, but I get your frustration. Appreciate your openness on this. I definitely think the Norseman is unique enough to hold a place in my collection at some point, but I'd love to see them react more aggressively to issues that come up with their knives. And if it's not something that can be fixed, I'd like to see them offer replacements, even if you have to wait for it. Hm. Hope you can enjoy it dude.
@djosgearz3924
@djosgearz3924 2 года назад
Hi , what is the name of the Front Flipper custom you are showing in the video please ?
@RedwolfEDC
@RedwolfEDC 2 года назад
Seraphim knives Yakuza.
@vindice5849
@vindice5849 3 года назад
You can get amazing knives for this price, I think it looks cool but I'd NEVER buy one at 960
@everydaybladesinc
@everydaybladesinc 2 года назад
The rask is pretty sweet.
@partypickle1015
@partypickle1015 2 года назад
Did you round the tip off it yet?
@Ekass13
@Ekass13 3 года назад
The knife (Have 2) is extremely well made. Fit and finish are top notch. Seems like the pivot needs a small tweak. I edc one and keep one pristine. Love them both and both have some of the best actions I own.
@RedwolfEDC
@RedwolfEDC 3 года назад
I 100% respect your opinion and I’m glad you love them brother, I’m always willing to hear a counter argument.
@sturmgewehr70
@sturmgewehr70 3 года назад
I owned one in 2019 for about two weeks and sold it for a slight loss. Once I had it in hand, it was a bit of hyped letdown. The impulse hit me again recently with an email from KnifeCenter until I saw the new price of $1349! Unbelievable!
@faretheewell3711
@faretheewell3711 3 года назад
That's knifecenter being knifecenter the price is 960, they aren't a dealer or anything they are just marking it up. They are absolutely the worst retailer out there, the pre order system is ridiculous. They will also let you buy things that aren't even in stock.
@sturmgewehr70
@sturmgewehr70 3 года назад
@@faretheewell3711 I’ve bought quite a few knives over the past many years from them. They do state whether an item is “in stock “ or not in the product description. As a 30 year knife buyer/collector, I’ve never had a problem with them. As for a markup on the Norsemen they had in, you very well could be correct. $940 or $1349...still overpricing a CNC made knife imho.
@faretheewell3711
@faretheewell3711 3 года назад
@@sturmgewehr70 right but they will still let you buy something that's not "in stock" saying they can possibly get it shipped within a few days. They also have pre orders listed on things that aren't going into production. Its just an absurd system.
@jjrossitee
@jjrossitee 2 года назад
Really appreciate this review, cheers from 🇨🇦.
@RedwolfEDC
@RedwolfEDC 2 года назад
Glad you enjoyed it
@jjrossitee
@jjrossitee 2 года назад
@@RedwolfEDC for sure dude. Haven't watched you that much yet but I think that's going to change. Your knife content is really solid, appreciate your hard work
@RedwolfEDC
@RedwolfEDC 2 года назад
Just trying to bring quality and positive content to the community.
@chester82gtstang
@chester82gtstang Год назад
I like the design and some of the colors but for 1k I feel like something should be hand made not all machine made.
@codyflood6995
@codyflood6995 3 года назад
The is what I was afraid of with the Norseman. Hard to find a knife with drop shut action yet no side to side blade play.
@faretheewell3711
@faretheewell3711 3 года назад
It's 100% false, go talk to the thousands of others who have owned or own norsemans, they fall shut bc of a flattened detent. Dude is either lying, got a modded knife or got the extremely rare lemon. Go watch Michael Emlers recent video on it.
@RedwolfEDC
@RedwolfEDC 3 года назад
Brother there are plenty of knives at that price point that free drop without blade play.
@kratoids
@kratoids 3 года назад
@@RedwolfEDC and plenty that are cheaper. shit my hinderer fall shuts flawlessly and is solid as a rock for ab half the price
@jesser8369
@jesser8369 3 года назад
The ZT 0562 I have has great action and drops shut. You just need something on bearings! They usually have the best action out of em all.
@MichalBreslau
@MichalBreslau Год назад
Kizer Cormorant
@beandip8516
@beandip8516 3 года назад
I don’t have any of those issues with my 225 dollar southern grind bad monkey :) thanks for the awesome content!
@RedwolfEDC
@RedwolfEDC 3 года назад
The bad monkey is such a good knife for the price.
@willtrax71
@willtrax71 3 года назад
You actually see that exact issue with knives that run on the plastic washers and not bronze or bearings. I like that Knife it looks like a hard user. I just tried my Adamas and it has ZERO blade play any direction and butter smooth opening and drop. To be hand made and tested it shouldn’t have left with any issues I would think. I was reading on the RWL-34 and it apparently mimics cpm-154 and s30v is what owners of the Knife are saying. It just seems for the price it should be amazing and epic with every flip lol. I’ll stick with my Benchmade and cloth pouch mainly due to no way being able to afford a 1000 dollar knife. Stay safe my Friend
@cavtj1
@cavtj1 3 года назад
Thanks for your honesty Mr. Wolf! Brutal honesty is a quality that's getting harder to find anymore. I wanted a Grimsmo but got frustrated 'cause I couldn't find one for sale so I set my sites on knives that I could obtain. I often wonder how many people could sharpen a recurve blade.
@jesser8369
@jesser8369 3 года назад
Hey brother, if you're on Facebook it's worth checking out some of the knife groups on there. They pop for sale from time to time, and it's cool to shoot the shit with out enthusiasts.
@strawhatmarcor.1145
@strawhatmarcor.1145 3 года назад
Thank you so much! We love you too !!
@azraell33
@azraell33 3 года назад
Thanks, man. I have been considering one of these for the last few weeks. They have been running $1395 retail at knife center and blade hq.
@picklejamrecords8731
@picklejamrecords8731 3 года назад
Holy crap! BOOOOOO!!!!
@ryandevore8346
@ryandevore8346 3 года назад
very well put and informative!
@idwolverine1867
@idwolverine1867 3 года назад
Thanks for your honesty. I’d be pissed if I spent that much and it bounced on closing. Personally, I think it’s a rather ugly knife.
@AgntColtron47
@AgntColtron47 3 года назад
Do you know what #4000 and #4500 look like? They stopped posting them all in their archive.
@kevink.2719
@kevink.2719 3 года назад
Great review definitely wouldn't mind having one
@golgo1348
@golgo1348 3 года назад
I wish someone would make an affordable version of this blade shape
@RedwolfEDC
@RedwolfEDC 3 года назад
Just the hilberg clones
@MichalBreslau
@MichalBreslau Год назад
Kizer Matanzas
@wehrwolf8006
@wehrwolf8006 2 года назад
I seen a set of his pm2 scales on ebay auction about 2 years ago..they were at 1200$ or so with a few days left before the final bids..must be a cult of followers out there..they were honeycomb blue ano..looked nice but ..damn $1200+.??
@RyanPennington87
@RyanPennington87 3 года назад
This review is garbage. I’m not biased at all. I have $30 knives and $1500 knives. The Norseman is still amoung the best ever.
@RedwolfEDC
@RedwolfEDC 3 года назад
You are entitled to your opinion brother, as are we all.
@sethstratz9003
@sethstratz9003 Год назад
You may not feel the quality is worth the price, but make no mistake the process he uses definitely make is so he needs to charge that much. He’s not tricking people, he has over a million in equipment. 🙄
@martygarrett6080
@martygarrett6080 3 года назад
Thank you for your honesty. It's becoming harder to find these days.
@jamestedrow5115
@jamestedrow5115 3 года назад
I’ve got 2 norsemans that drop shut and dont bounce like that. You are the one thats being deceptive. You must find the sweet spot with the pivot.
@RedwolfEDC
@RedwolfEDC 3 года назад
I present the information and experiences that I am given brother, nothing more and nothing less. That is the opposite of deception brother and I have showed my integrity time and time again on this channel.
@KB-kw8ni
@KB-kw8ni 3 года назад
Butthurt much?
@Dirtyknives007
@Dirtyknives007 Год назад
Thanks for the honest review!
@gentlemansgear5041
@gentlemansgear5041 3 года назад
I totally disagree with some of the things mentioned in the video. I own a Norsman, I love it, no its not perfect, perhaps not even my favourite piece. The tightening on the Pivot u did early is just nonesense. U either overtightened it or left it too loose. For every knife there is a sweet spot where u don't have to compromise for action but still have no blade play. Comparing the QSP with the action of the Norseman is just kind of ridiculous tbh. There are "Budget knives" with a comparable action, such as the North Arm Skaha, but it doesn't surpass the action of the Norseman by any means. I have perfect fall shut action (which is not a QC issue considering they modified even the detent by flattening it so it doesn't have to overcome that extra detent when closing( which might make it easier for the blade to do the double tap)tighten it slightly then, action won't get any worse and it wont bounce) with absolutely no blade play whatsoever. Mentioning that the accessory's only cost pennies to make seems unnecessary and kind of just desperate to point out something negative. How many knives come with these accessories. Usually only the very high end ones do. (Also Nano oil is a GREAT knife oil, its not just fancy looking). I understand the sentiment that this knife is CNC made and not handmade. But, its all about tolerances and accuracy with knives such as the Grimsmos or the Koenigs. This doesn't make them "worth less". I also don't think John Grimsmo is so wrong about them being like the Rolex of the Knife world. The Grimsmos made the best action in 2016-2017. Nothing rlly compared. They innovated. Also: Rolex doesn't innovate much anymore, many of their products are reruns with slight changes. But people don't mind, because there products is nonetheless still great.
@Xanduur
@Xanduur 2 года назад
I use my Norseman everyday. I avoid the double tap by simply being careful closeting the knife. Mostly, I unlock the blade and manually close it. Problem solved.
@PeterC585
@PeterC585 3 года назад
Great video brother! I've had the same view on a few " grails" .....
@RedwolfEDC
@RedwolfEDC 3 года назад
Thank you brother. What “grails” are you referring too? You might save me some money.
@PeterC585
@PeterC585 3 года назад
@@RedwolfEDC Brother ' most Medford's, Direware...Pohan lue...to name a few. Market is so saturated with titanium flippers that it's taken most the exclusively out of collecting.
@b.z.5383
@b.z.5383 3 года назад
Interesting to see some controversial opinions, could use some more of these.
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