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The EU should start penalizing companies that pursue anti-repairability practices. Having your phone lose various features despite using Genuine products is disgraceful
The EU is pushing the entire market across the world in the right direction and I really hope they keep the ball rolling. It's baffling to me that this hasn't been disallowed anywhere (even outside of the EU) as it is intentionally breaking something you paid for. It's literally 'legal' theft
Your comment should be at the top. The only way to fix this issue is EU coz Apple won't care just like they didnt care about USB-C until they were told off.
I think apple is type of a company that will do one simple thing: the worst thing that they allow. Usb c? Yes, but a really old standard. Repairable? Yes, but you can break anything easily, and parts are expensive etc.
7:14 those are EMI shielding fingerstrips for board or case-level RF shielding and grounding. I suspect the taptic-engine being a coil based actuator similar to a speaker (but tuned for response in way lower frequencies at high levels) and therefore be a strong source of parasitic interference if not contained well. They also exist in scales up to door-level for i.e. motor control rooms as well.
When they first started locking stuff down with things like the FaceID module, their justification made some sense for security. But basically everything they’ve done since has proven that was never the intent and it was always about trying to push people to go to Apple for repairs for a chance to upsell them.
@@jeettrivediiso you think it's ok to spend over $1,000 on a phone and then be forced to spend $500 for an "official" screen repair so that it doesn't lock you out of using your own phone? You're a cuck
@@jeettrivediiWell the wrong thing is they charge way high for spare parts which many people cant afford and those can be bought at a lower price from 3rd Party Sellers
@@jeettrivediiwhat they're doing wrong is taking the choice away from people. And have you experienced how shitty apple repair is? They always push to get a new device if I can get a replacement for the screen at a tenth of the price from apple, it should be my choice, for a device i purchased, not apples.
@@PhoneRepairGuruIf I buy a Canadian Model, will I be able to use normal sim? Edit: People answered, if whoever sees this is wondering, the answer is Yes
Typically the device needs to be updated/restored via a computer after front camera is replaced. Used to cause blackout front cam when replaced, but could see the behavior being changed.
I just did a screen replacement in training at my job. I just used heat, small suction cup, some alcohol and the ifixit opener you see on your left along with the blue picks. Took me about 3 minutes to open it. It's so much easier than older models where you have to take stuff off the old screen and add it to the new screen. The new samsungs gives me the hardest of times to open.
So; what's ironic about this teardown... is that the front camera being replaced and causing the camera app to freeze whenever using it was also a known repair issue I had from replacing 6 and 7 plus models prior years ago.
Wow, it's wild to think that even with swapping parts from another identical iPhone, Camera, Face ID, True Tone, and the battery still give issues. 🤔 Shows how deep Apple's anti-repair measures go. Nonetheless, thanks for shedding light on this, it's so important for consumers to be aware! #RightToRepair
@@linearcube. that's the excuse but come on.. refurbished phones do not impact Apple's sales in any way. Even if it does, how much profit does that take from Apple? 0.00000000000000000000000000000001%? In today's economy, the only way to make ANYTHING last is by repairing. Planned obsolescence is bullshit, and Apple knows that people aren't going to spend 1000+ dollars on a phone every time their old one breaks down. Serializing components under the guise of "preventing thieves from harvesting parts" is a bullshit excuse. Also the thieving part is just stupid. No thief is going to give back a stolen phone after all of the new anti-repair tactics Apple has put in place.
@@linearcube.It's not to prevent thieves from harvesting parts, it's to prevent repair technicians to do so. They have to harvest them since there is literally no other source for replacement parts (apart from bribing people working at factory-level rejected parts disposal). Obviously, if "unauthorised" technicians were able to fix devices with easily available parts, Apple would sell fewer new iPhones, and we can't have that now can we?
They might actually have the 10x optical zoom my S21 Ultra does if they did that. Unfortunately, they know damn well their customers will blindly buy their shit devices.
@@ljessecusterl i seriously dont understand the want for high zoom cameras in phones, 3x is enough for me as its not too far and close enough where it has that portrait style thingy. any more zoom I legit will not ever have a reason to use.
@@ljessecusterl Your S21 Ultra is garbage lmfao. That "100x zoom" is the most blurry, grainy crappy image quality imaginable. Why would I ever need anything above 20x zoom? Also the 15 Pro Max zoom is waaaaaay better in lower light because samsung uses a crappy 10mp sensor with a tiny aperture
As a phone repair tech, this is very informative on the issues we will be seeing after repairs. Does the faceid work if you transfer the proximity sensor on the screen to another?
If you mean when doing a simple screen replacement, that will be business as usual to maintain face ID. Same with previous models going back to the X, the only issue is the unverified part warning, so you will need to transfer IC to prevent this.
@@imstupidbut The fact that they tout their new stance on repairability makes this an issue. The problem is, apple doesnt in fact have a new take on repairability. The warnings are erroneous and not helpful to an end user.. those "unknown part" messages are only to harm 3rd party repair. Which if they truly wanted repairability they would not continue to add these to even more components. They could EASILY remove all of these via software update in the same manner that they added them in the first place. Its malicious and intentional. What do people stand to gain by pointing out an ongoing issue with poor business practices? The only thing "scummy" is apple. Also, cant be slander because none of it is incorrect.
As an android user I think the hardware and software design in iphones is insanely good, my problem is apples attitude to break random things because THEY are not the ones replacing it.
@@soberanisfam1323 I'm no brand snob, people can use whatever they want (though I'm getting tired of my friend who keeps saying Android sucks for security when in reality, both platforms have issues with security - also he says he can hack into Android within minutes).. however I think picture quality between the top phones can vary and it's pretty debatable which is "best." This I think is more of a subjective opinion than anything. I like my Pixel 7, it does take great photos, but I don't think they'd be any better than other top-end phones with good cameras and sensors.
@@TwinShadow_Fox(edit to change dex to Knox) I got them mixed up) I don't remember what year it was but I'm pretty sure recently that Samsung knox security actually won best security. Idk about other android but with Samsung security it's not easy to hack in to it. Just like other things just don't click or download untrustworthy things lol
My guess for the front camera is that now the iPhone 15 takes depth informations on every photos by default. However, because the front camera uses the FaceID sensors for depth informations and Apple deactivate faceid when swapping the camera, it glitches out the app. So there’s not more anti repair things happening than on the iPhone 14, just that they have a bigger impact
@@arjix8738 uhm, does your car drive when you're missing a tire? I don't think so. Blame the auto maker I guess, that they just couldn't come up with a solution to make it work.
@@arjix8738from what i know, its for security reason face id is deactivated. Just like a touch id before.. it is encrypt and linked with only motherboard compatible
@@PvtAnonymous that's not the point is it? The auto industry equivalent would be to throw a check engine light if you drive on a tire that hasn't been installed and calibrated by the manufacturer. That's the part that appears in the iPhone settings. Now to add insult to injury imagine ABS, ESP and cruise control being disabled because you're not driving on a calibrated tire. Doesn't matter if it's a genuine specific tire (like MO or * tires for Mercedes and BMW respectively). This is the part that's insuling to customers.
@@arjix8738 Knowing how software dev work is prioritized, they probably determined that making the front camera still work without Face ID was lower on the priority list since their policy is that Face ID should be properly configured anyway. Not defending the decision, but figured an explanation would help.
Quick thing when you put the MagSafe puck, it didn’t do the animation so it probably doesn’t charge at 15W only 7.5 because the backglass/wireless coils are paired
Great video. One thing that would be nice to have is updates on previous models and current on how fixable it is now. With original or non original parts.
theres alot of things i can understand companies wanting to do after "Unauthorized repairs" Messages saying its "Ingenuine" is honestly a good message, but not when you are using a part supplied by apple, its oke if its from a 3rd party, iphones get sold used alot and its nice there are signs to see what parts have been changed, but if they are changed with genuine apple parts there should be no reason for the phone to act up or straight up disable functions or features.
Actually looked pretty clean thought it was going to be all over with much more. I think to me the cables annoy me. I had to deal with something like this with two motherboards and the cables were insane,Totally different animal I was dealing with.Definitely looking forward to seeing what you come up with. Thanks so much for sharing.✌️💯
That would be pretty cool, though Samsung phones (tmk) have never had this issue bc they don't follow the same greedy practices as Apple, so unless it becomes a trend for Samsung too, I would doubt that he does it for those phones.
The companies: “We have a chip shortage” Also the companies: Puts a chip with an ID on even the smallest of components just so they would be tied to a certain motherboard
For the front cameras not working: I am sure they presented a method getting focus on the front camera with the sensors built into Face ID. Without those sensors it appears to be possible the iPhone is not able to focus properly which it needs to take the picture. It may sound stupid and I am not completely sure about this, but that’s the only reason I could imagibe
All he would need to do to fix the front camera not working is to flash the phone with fresh software, same happens with the iPhone XS series. Also no other phone brand has issue with the front camera focusing and none of them use the dot projector and infrared camera apple does.
I'd agree, but he swapped out to an identical phone. If it isn't anti repair and you're using genuine apple parts, which he objectively is. It should work...but it's just Apple being Apple. Never will I purposefully purchase an Apple product, for just this kind of bullshit , same with stuff like Tesla...it's like they believe we're renting rather than buying these days.
that's not the reason. The 15 series is storing depth data in every photo now (so you can adjust focus later). The front camera gets that data from the FaceID module itself, if it can't access that data, it glitches out. This can in theory be fixed with a software update, but that's the most likely reason.
if only companies followed valves example with the awesome repairability/customization of the Steam Deck.... 6 philips screws and you can change absolutely anything, battery, joysticks, SSD.... its insane what these companies do to limit our freedom
@@aaronfisher7159 Stuff inevitably breaks, the freedom to repair should not only be granted by all electronics but should ALSO be legally required. You guys think that these companies should not only be allowed to *intentionally* lock people out of stuff they own? That's not how ownership works.
Love the new 5x zoom which other phones already had, and the action button which other phones already stopped using (it's cool but mostly annoying) in exchange for even more anti-third-party repair efforts, a classic Apple move
@@roostersideburns3440 s23 ultras have such high end cameras they can go as far as 100x and still be decently clear Cameras however mean nothing when it comes to phone quality, there have always been phones with better cameras but no one uses them because their software isn't very good
To be fair, some of "calibration" issues can actually be because it's cheaper to handle some unit-to-unit variance in software, rather than tightening the manufacturing tolerances even further, however, the tools for the calibration should be made available, or at least the unavailability should be clearly explained with engineering/expert reasons, rather than "safety, security, innovations, patents" and similar crap.
That thinking is completely backwards. There's no reason Apple can't let you replace components, even if there's variance, even if it's not going to work perfectly. It's the difference of it working 99% what it was, and it working 0% because they serialized the parts. Stop making excuses for a trillion dollar company that just wants to milk you for more cash. It's not a coincidence that your front camrea will stop working if you replace the screen, on what is now their most fragile display. They want to give you a reason to upgrade your phone, or get a new one.
@@404-Error-Not-Found I agree that they should make it possible to do repairs, but there can be good engineering reasons to require calibration (not serialisation). The go-to example is HDD - if the control board dies, you can't just swap in a replacement, as there's a chip that contains the calibration data for it, which is necessary for the needle to hit all the right places. Without that chip, the drive couldn't work, this is an engineering thing, not an additional conscious decision to make things harder. I'm willing to accept that apple is doing some shady sh*t, possibly including serialisation, but first of all, they should be talking about why these parts cannot be swapped, and they should be offering calibration tools for cheap or free, unless there's a good (engineering, not "safety/security/innovation/patents") reason.
I wish they had that blue for the 14 Pro's; it looks so good! But anyway, I hope that the front camera thing ends up being a bug. I'm not too fond of these anti-repair measures and hope they eventually fade away from consumer backlash. 😅
@@maherdrake many videos in the past few weeks have top comments at 00:01 timestamp so obviously something very interesting happens at the start of every video
Personally I like that apple take these measurements, as someone who buys from eBay it stops sellers just changing out a oled screen for a rubbish replacement one etc
Apparently, from what I heard the proxy sensor on the 15th series, houses the chips and circuits for the dynamic island this year so potentially if we replace or unplug the proximity sensor dynamic island wont work
Ah yes non genuine messages after swapping parts with another genuine iphone... so thoughtful and realistic... proves that it just puts in the message without checking.
It’s checking serial numbers for individual parts after they flash it from the factory. So when parts are swapped it’s just going ‘hey this is not my original part!’ And thus lies the problem.
@@joshfairchildThese are very poorly written error messages, then -- it doesn't say the part doesn't match, it just says that it can't determine it's a genuine part, which it obviously is.
@@livedreamsg they’re being vague on purpose to stress people so that it gets taken to an Apple Store to get a “genuine” part replaced for more money. It’s scummy. I’m not defending the practice at all. I used to do authorized Mac repair for a 3rd party store and how they price to repair things is intentional to get you to just buy new stuff. A spinning hard drive you can get off the store shelf for $60, oh that’s $300 from Apple. Why? It has a logo on it. 🙄
Also the changes from the last 4 generations are kinda small, for me its huge, who just upgraded from an iphone xr that was barely holding onto its bettery life after like 24/7 use the last years
That’s the model number, not the serial number. The serial number is on the motherboard and can also obtained by plugging it into one of apples tools if the device is unresponsive.
Hold up. Did he just say SIM ejector pins? In the included accessories in the unboxing apple does not give SIM ejector pins. Your still super cool Phone Repair Guru!
It's a business expense for people on RU-vid. If you have a monetize the RU-vid channel it cost them nothing to buy an iPhone even if it breaks they can use it as a tax write off as a business expense.
I feel like it should be illegal to software-lock functions after replacement of parts. When you buy the phone, you become the legal owner of it. Replacing parts is your legal right as an owner, and I feel like apple preventing that by disabling features is them overstepping their role as manufacturer. Why do they get away with that?
I checked the website or charger brick, I want a slow charging, and they do have a 20w, but nothing like you’ve proposed, why people wants to charge their phone that fast … the battery suffer !
Apple as usual testing the reaction of people discovering the "glitch" of swapping the front camera and gonna patch it out if the reaction is bad enough
Surprised there's no screw mechanism on the screen separator to slowly apply the separation force instead of prying it open with your hands where you're not necessarily apply equal force.
Many people see this as a repairability issue and blame Apple for blocking third-party repairs to charge the consumer more, but I actually agree with Apple here. In many countries, iPhones are still sold by small-time resellers and not Apple. Some of them in the past have offered huge discounts on the iPhone but the catch is they used to swap the original internals like batteries and cameras. They even took out the original cable and swapped it with a fake one. The cable thing still happens. They later used to have a system in place to reseal the package and sell the original parts separately. Now any consumer buying from such resellers can turn on the phone and instantly be notified of any such because of this security feature in place.
Could you try swapping the ambient light sensor? If that brings back auto brightness, then i would be willing to deal with no true tone if i ever needed to replace my display
@@arkvsi8142nothing wrong with buying apple. All of my iPhones have worked flawlessly for me. I’ve never had to send my phones in for repair but if I did I’d rather just have apple do it anyways.
@@PhoneRepairGuru the 14 pros also have one under the display. Both phones have the same size dynamic island. They actually mentioned they moved it under the display for the first time during the 14 pro event.
@@Arobsite oh okay I thought it was only the Pro Max. I'm know it's dependent on the A17 Bionic chip or whatever it's called but I thought only the Pro Max was getting that chip.
This is probably the first time I got a little shaken up watching an apple related video. I've been an iPhone user for almost 8 years now and I've stood by apple for a lot of their things, but this really made me question and think a lot of this through. I recently upgraded to an iPhone 14 from my old iPhone X for my birthday this passed July. Fortunately I've never been in a situation where I've had to repair my phones, but after taking my computer in because of issues a few weeks ago and paying so much for it, It kinda worries me. I can kind of understand apple's side of things when it comes to components and stuff, but on the third party side of things I can understand things being an issue for both the employees and customers. , especially for people on a limited budget, like myself. It's not always ideal to take it into an Apple Store and pay high prices for repairs. Definitely a complicated issue all around that I prefer to stay neutral about.
I agree it’s complicated. Many people just think it’s about Apple hating consumers or something but it’s clear they do this type of stuff to prevent counterfeit parts being used on devices. Or from scrappers trying to use random components from different phones to create a new phone. But on the other hand, Apple SHOULD make it easier for consumers and repair techs to pair new parts to a different phone. They have a software that they can use to do that but I don’t think it’s as accessible as it should be. But that’s just my opinion.
@@FlyByWire1that's very bold of you to assume apple cares about its consumers buying counterfeit parts. Apple doesn't hate its consumers. They love their consumers, they make them billions. They know if they make stuff like this no matter what people will still buy them. I guarantee it's going to get worse. It's easy money. Only legislation will stop them now. Counterfeit parts were always a thing, and yet repairing iPhones back then was so easy because of reputable sellers. Repair shops know where to buy their supplies. They'd lose business if they sold them broken parts. The counterfeit excuse is so dumb
@@TheByrd this comment screams “I know nothing about software or hardware development at all.” If you don’t have any safeguards for possible harm caused by counterfeit parts, Apple is leaving themselves open to lawsuits and runaway liability in the event that something does go wrong. Many companies use different types of software safeguards against non-genuine parts including Samsung and most hardware OEMs, not just Apple. But I wouldn’t expect you to understand anything about software or hardware at all. Your mind is so basic that you just think “Apple no let me do whatever with my phone so that must mean they hate all consumers 🤪🤪🤪.” I swear y’all are literally braindead
@@TheByrd Whats the problem? Theyre still fully repairable, they just let people know when parts have been swapped by a 3rd party, sorry you cant frankenstein an iPhone together and sell it as barely used.. second hand iPhones hold their value for a reason, and Apple knows this.
@@joshwhlr1983 @joshwhlr1983 Wrong. You can swap duplicate parts from 2 identical brand new iPhones, and it still won't work. Apple doesn't like competition. You shouldn't be defending Apple Inc.
I think there is another reason to part serilisation. Some people steal iPhones and harvest them for parts. But I think that the part serilisaton should be a setting that you could just turn off.
It’s def not to ‘ save the planet’ thats for sure. Their eco crap is such a lie. If they really cared about the environment they wouldn’t do this kinda stuff
Excellent video dude! I just can't wait to see how worse the repairability would get next year, but it's always important that you take real care of your phone, especially if it's worth thousands. But great video man
in 2027 the new EU legislation will come in to effect meaning all phones sold in the EU must have a user replaceable battery hopefully that will mean in the future that the EU will add more legislation that targets all companies that are using and repair practices
Apple will never make a phone with a user-serviceable back, and neither will literally any other relevant smartphone manufacturer. Those days are long gone. I think they switched to this design because the default procedure of giving someone an entirely new iphone when they come in for a back glass repair is starting to become costly.
Yeah, it's really good right. Apple's still gonna sell 250 million high-end phones though. Samsung their biggest competitor does about 25 million high--end. If repairability is such a big deal, how does Apple outsell them by a factor of 10? Guess it must not matter except to a select group of naysayers.
A lot of companies are anti repair. Apple just gets a lot of attention because they’re a huge company. If the product is built well, and you take care of it then you’ll likely never need to repair it. I’ve had iPhones for 10 years and have only ever repaired one because I dropped it on concrete without a case like an idiot.
@@bruxi78230so is that the best excuse you could come up with...huh....because of sales.....ok let me use you logic. If apple sells 250 million units and the owners of those units accidentally drop their phones resulting in cracks at the front and back, and from this video clearly showing apple's anti-repair strategies, now those owners have to shell out $400 to repair their thousand dollars phones right? So who is at a loss here and who is gaining?? Think about. Don't just give petty excuses for Apple's smartphone sales yet you as a consumer having worked so hard to buy your pro max in the event of an accident having to pay more for just a crack. This is business and businesses if not few only care about revenue and profit margins even at the cost of their most loyal customers..mic drop
I love to see the inside and I love the way you go investigating in the things that dont work no more after repair. Question: Are you gonna do an clear mod on the 15 pro max backglass? I would love to see that and I think its also better to do with this one considering it doesn't do anything bad when you swap the back glass. edit: I just saw the short in where you scraped off the back glass paint and looked at the clear 14 so that answers my question
I know I will never have an iPhone 15 but I have to appreciate how nice it actually looks without apples photo shop the iPhone 15 looks very nice in a nice camera like prg I hope my iPhone 11 doesn’t die soon because I’m broke and could not afford not even an iPhone 13 but thank you prg for doing this now I can consider buying it now and I think it can actually be worth it
Hello. I have a challenge for you. Swat one of the phone's prts with micro usb and the other one with lightning. Micro usb is pointless but some people have a lot of lightning gadgets and accessories
I suppose, if you want make your front camera working, you need to flash firmware with iTunes or 3utools with data loss. It works on iPhone 11 on some iOS versions.
So mush for beeing green and inviormetaly friendly. The best way to save the planet is to keep tech working for as long as possible. Apple usualy want's you to swap you're broken device ASAP and buy the new one. Cus they cant innovate enough to make you do that.
This is my number one reason to never buy anything apple no matter how good they are. Their anti-repair policy and massive hypocrisy regarding sustainability is incredibly sickening.
I’d be really interested to know if a picture with the front camera works with Siri Shortcuts. That uses the camera API and not the camera, so if it’s a glitch with the camera app, then taking a front picture using Siri Shortcuts should work.
That is EXACTLY why the Back Glass on the iPhone 15Pro Max is breaking WAY easier then on any other version. As seen on JerryRigs video. The Back Glass is WAY MORE sensitive on this model because the aluminum frame isn’t actually adhered to the back glass like on past iPhones. So the structure and strength is gone.
