IS THE ISLAND OF HY BRASIL REAL? Famous mistakes on old maps | A phantom island | History Calling

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Today we ask, is the island of HY BRASIL real, or is this one of many famous mistakes on old maps and an example of a phantom island? The evidence for and therefore the history of the island of Hy Brasil, is rooted in its appearance on old maps from the 14th to the 19th centuries, but despite numerous expeditions to find it, it has never been located. Thanks to cartographers’ persistence in showing it however (usually off the west coast of Ireland and sometimes joined by the equally fanciful island of Mayda, aka Demar), along with some reported sightings and the occasional work of fiction dressed up as fact, an entire legend has grown up around what is supposedly a paradise inhabited by an old living in a castle and black rabbits and which only appears out of the mist on one day every seven years. What seems more likely is that was one of the countless mistakes on maps created before modern navigational instruments and that that the mythical island of Hy Brazil (as it is also sometimes spelt) is just that, a myth.
In this video from History Calling, we look at the evidence for the island of Hy-Brasil, including some beautiful old maps and written publications, as well as what modern science shows us through satellite images from NASA. Maps studied will include the Mapamondi of 1387, a portolan chart of Europe by Grazioso Benincasa from 1470, an image created by Abraham Ortelius (1570) and a 1769 map of Europe. By the end of the video we’ll have an answer to the question, what is Hy Brasil? Island, rock or legend? This video will also include a discussion of the famous but fictional story which many mistakenly cite as though it’s a real historical source, ‘O-Brazile or The inchanted island’. This was published in 1675 and written by Richard Head, but attributed to the invented figure of William Hamilton.
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@HistoryCalling 3 года назад

What do you make of the story of Hy Brasil and Mayda and how you would explain their appearance on maps and in written accounts? Let me know below and check out my PATREON site for extra perks at www.patreon.com/historycalling.

@victorioify 3 года назад

I am now wondering why Hy Brasil was mentioned in the coded message of an alien craft that visited Rendelsham Forest.

@Rhaenarys 2 года назад

I think its possible it was there, but sank in the sea. Like more of a temp island that we occasionally see.

@Clodaghbob 2 года назад

It's HI BRA-zil (rather than Brazil). It's an optical illusion and I may have seen it many years ago, long before mobile phones with cameras. I was on holiday and I saw three islands. Later in a local shop I asked about them. The locals looked at me blankly. They said there were only two. I said 'yes, but what about the middle one far into the distance?' They told me I could take a boat and head out to that one and I'd land on the coast of the United States before I reached it. That's when I heard the name Hy Brasil. At the time I thought they were just winding me up. Perhaps they thought I was winding _them_ up about the sighting, but I had never heard of it before. I think it must be some strange kind of reflection of another island. It was distant but had a very definite jagged shape. I could fully understand anyone swearing that they had seen a real island...although not the ones who claimed to have landed there. 😃

@jcoyle9801 2 года назад

If you look at the Porcupine shelf in google maps and sea floor maps there are Two anomalies that look very much like many of the illustrations on some maps but its still so far down i believe both islands existed and slowly sank

@Clodaghbob 2 года назад

@@victorioify It was just a stunt. Aliens will do anything to get their faces in the magazines. Fortunately, the media ignored them. We have enough alien ghost-written books, films and merchandise. 🤪🤪🤪

@angelfaceskin7223 3 года назад

I live part time on the small island of Inis Oirr (Aran Islands) and there are a couple of older residents who have told me and who swear they have seen the island of Hybrasil. Maybe it is an optical illusion. Another idea is that the island isn't of this dimension and maybe people are seeing it when the veil is thinner. I have no idea but it's interesting none the less!

@HistoryCalling 3 года назад

That's so interesting. I've only been to Inis Mor myself and I wish now I'd asked about Hy Brasil, but it really wasn't on my radar back them, especially as I was there for a friend's wedding, so I was a bit distracted. The islands are a really beautiful part of the world.

@Thaispla 3 года назад

Absolutely

@kamion53 2 года назад

isn't a strong tradition in Ireland that connects Hy-Brasil with the Lands under the Sea where the Siddhe or fairies dwelt? An equivalent of Tir-na nOg ?

@passit467 2 года назад

Its the djinn dimension...

@oneoflokis Год назад

Yeah. A couple of other channels mention the idea of "optical illusions". (You can see "floating island" optical illusions to this day in some places in Asia, I forget where.) But I personally favour the other dimension theory!!

@kingbrutusxxvi 3 года назад

Twenty-seven minutes about a fictional floating island and I'm glued to every second. I even paused it to get more espresso. If this woman runs for political office we're all in. ;-)

@HistoryCalling 3 года назад

Aww, thank you so much :-) No plans to go into politics I'm afraid. I think I'd be eaten alive!

@arenzefischer8090 2 года назад

I prefer her to continue making these amazing history videos.

@Wee_Catalyst 11 месяцев назад

Recently stumbled across your channel and I have to say as someone who deeply appreciates academic rigor I’ve been having a wonderful time learning from you Thank you!

@ffvvaacc 2 года назад

Speaking of historical mysteries, would you consider creating a lecture on the lost colony of Roanoke?

@bazdaniels7420 Год назад

Robert Sepehr seems to have found Hy Brasil and Mayda on Google Maps as underwater elevations, visible in the same shapes and locations as had formerly appeared on maps. Suggesting that they did indeed exist in the past, but over time disappeared due to sinking, or rising water levels.

@Galegolas123 2 года назад

The country of Brazil actually is named after this myth of Hy-Brazil. When the portuguese arived in Brazil they called the country "Ilha de Vera Cruz" or "Island of Vera Cruz" so, the portuguese didn't knew the true size of Brazil. Later they found the "Brazilian wood" or "Pau-Brazil" a red tree which might had remind them of the discription of the burning fire from Hy-Brazil myth, later would turned out to be the name of the country. The other theory and more used by the people is that, the portuguese gave the tree name duo to it's colour which would reminds them of the word "Brasa" or "Fire/Flame" in portuguese.

@annbaker3142 3 года назад

Love old maps!!! Fascinating images. As for the islands existence - I don't think so. Cartographers may have Sen the islands drawn on earlier maps and didn't want to appear less knowledgeable!! So they were drawn in again!! I wonder if there are any similar 'land masses' of other countries??? Thank you for informative and interesting video as always! X

@HistoryCalling 3 года назад

Thanks Ann. Yes, there are lots of phantom islands and other geographical features. The book I left linked in the description box, The Phantom Atlas, covers a lot of them. Each entry is typically just a couple of pages, but it's a nice coffee table kind of book if you're into that sort of thing.

@stephanieking4444 3 года назад

I too find old maps fascinating. Many contain symbolism as well as the state of geographical knowledge at the time the map was produced.

@Smashingit2022 3 года назад

Best Saturday morning here!! Woke up to another cracking upload. Thanks so much 🙏

@HistoryCalling 3 года назад

Thank you :-) I'm glad you liked it. Have a lovely weekend.

@tonicastel5933 3 года назад

Very interesting & well-researched. Thanks for posting. Fascinating topic.

@HistoryCalling 3 года назад

Thanks. I'm glad you liked it :-)

@tessat338 3 года назад

Hy Brasil is the setting for "The Stolen Lake," one of the later, weirder Joan Aiken sequels to "Wolves of Willoughby Chase." However, she sets the story in Latin America - where they speak a mishmash of Latin, Spanish and Welsh and she links it to Welsh mythology instead of Irish. I was thrilled to see a video of the origins of her story.

@HistoryCalling 3 года назад

I've never read The Stolen Lake, but I loved the movie The Wolves of Willoughby Chase as a kid. They never show it on TV now :-(

@THETRUTH-BR 2 года назад

Portugal it's middle celtic

@davidlancaster6941 2 года назад

I've heard alot of stories about Hy Brasil, and most were pretty wild. Thank you for sorting out the fact from the fiction. Very enjoyable as well as informative. A pleasure. Appreciate.

@Heothbremel 2 года назад

What a lovely history! This feels like Atlantis almost, but I'd personally love to think that it's more along the lines of Avalon.....

@rexy5586 Год назад

I love your sense of humor!

@JohnDoe-jy1kn 3 года назад

How you managed to say the name Richard Head without sniggering is beyond me.

@emilybarclay8831 Год назад

I have a world map made around 1630 on my wall and you can just see a tiny island labelled ‘Brazil’ next to Ireland!

@HistoryCalling Год назад

I know. It's so strange how long this error lasted. There are maps from much later which show it too.

@emilybarclay8831 Год назад

@@HistoryCalling to be fair, Japan looks like a bowl of chicken nuggets and the Philippines don’t look much better so it’s not just the imaginary islands, the entire thing is whack lol

@bevinboulder5039 Год назад

I just ran across this video today and can't help wondering whether there has been any research in recent years to connect these stories to the existence of the Mid-Atlantic Ridge and the other tectonic anomalies that are responsible for Iceland, the Azores, etc. It's late, but I will search tomorrow to see if any such info is out there. Knowing the existence of the Ridge it's not beyond the realm of possibility there there was at sometime a land mass that has since disappeared.

@lauragray4052 2 года назад

This is very interesting, an island o that disappeared from maps. These cartographers must have seen something that caused them to include on their maps. I enjoyed this little departure from the Tudor era for a week. This could make a great modern fantasy fiction novel. 🙂

@Atm0111 3 года назад

Ive never heard of Hy Brazil, very interesting! Thank u History Calling 🖤🧡

@HistoryCalling 3 года назад

You're welcome. Glad you enjoyed it :-)

@helencourtnell5621 Год назад

How interesting ... I have just finished reading a book called The Magicians Daughter by HG Parry which is set on the mysterious island of Hy-Brasil. I had never heard this mythical island and thought it was just a legend that the author had invented. And then, a few days later, your video pops up. What a coincidence ....

@lizjo7213 28 дней назад

There are no coincidences more like synchronicity 😅...

@daegudiva 2 года назад

The entire time I was watching this content I kept humming tunes from Brigadoon!

@leahvogelsimpson 2 года назад

I still don't understand how they made accurate maps back then at all.

@AlvaThomas-vj1sj Месяц назад

I agree

@outpoststation2356 2 года назад

There are more sunken islands and larger landmass than we can imagine that are now submerged. If you really want to know where they are, you must use a good bathymetry program.

@Kari_B61ex 3 года назад

I'm thinking that the island is the Isle of Scilly - the mention of King Arthur and Tintagel (which could account for coastal erosion) fascinates me. I visited Tintagel this past weekend. Tintagel is today idefinitely a part of Cornwall.

@HistoryCalling 3 года назад

Someone else was just wondering the same. It could be :-)

@Kari_B61ex 3 года назад

@@HistoryCalling I watched a few days ago the volcanic eruption from La Palma and the new making of a new piece of land off the coast of the Spanish Canary Islands. The same thing could have happened centuries ago around the British/Irish coasts.

@HistoryCalling 3 года назад

Yes, the La Palma volcano looks pretty terrifying. I've been seeing it on the news as well.

@od1452 3 года назад

Yes. Map makers just re-combined maps in the old days. Once on a couple of maps.. I think they would be reluctant to forget it. But it does remind me of the very small British Island (who's name I've forgotten and don't feel like looking for) that is in the Atlantic. The British were worried the Soviets would claim it.. Could people have seen it and could it have been larger at one time? Perhaps one of these rock piles has come and gone?. And Mirage as a possibility too. Interesting though. Future video idea The 15th Century German Knight (Forgot hs name) who lived about a year after having a lance penetrate his head. A portrait was made him on Maximillian's order. . Thanks for another interesting story.

@HistoryCalling 3 года назад

The German knight story sounds very interesting, but I can't find anything with a quick Google :-(

@jhonjhonjhonson7773 2 года назад

Doggland.?

@annahart8344 2 года назад

Could it have been a volcanic island that finally disappeared under the sea over the years, hidden by tides at various times? Just throwing this out there or could it be a mirage like those seen by sailors too long at sea like mermaids and sea monsters, and for the Irish, leprechauns?

@nickyphoenix2470 3 года назад

Is it possible that it was the isle of scilly that they found and mistook it for the can you see me can you not Hy Brasil

@HistoryCalling 3 года назад

Always possible :-)

@cadence4527 3 года назад

I wonder if the island had existed at one time, perhaps a volcano that had collapsed in on itself and disappeared beneath the waves. Earliest cartographers that existed prior to it’s disappearance put it on their maps and cartographers who came after it’s disappearance were going off the old knowledge of it’s existence without knowing it had long since disappeared into the sea. Considering back then news of such events took months to reach far flung places of the world, it would make sense that such information about an earthquake and an island disappearing would be lost to time especially when there are so many other far more important things taking place.

@HistoryCalling 3 года назад

Certainly a possibility. I definitely got Atlantis vibes off the whole story.

@hardyquinn9442 2 года назад

That's what I've been thinking. The Atlantic Ocean is massive and a tiny little Rock could very well be swallowed.

@2068edward 3 года назад

A quick check on Google Earth shows shapes at a depth of around 330m very similar to: Hy Brasil (52d 37.3' N 14d 15.2W) Mayda (52d 5,8'N 14d 23.9'W) Perhaps a cartographer of the ilk of Piri Reis may hold a few clues here.

@Al_Ellisande 3 года назад

And there was me half-convinced I'd seen Van Der Dekken's ghostship off the coast of Portugal a few years ago after reading of how it appeared. A mirage indeed. Hy Brasil could be a rock that's since been swallowed up, and the Atlantic islands could be what's left of the Atlantis that Plato wrote about. They're about the right latitude I think. Or maybe Plato dabbled in some fantasy.

@HistoryCalling 3 года назад

The mirages (especially that boat in 2021) are pretty bizarre. Yes, a rock that disappeared under water seems like a possibility.

@Al_Ellisande 3 года назад

@@HistoryCalling The floating tanker is highly irregular.

@hardyquinn9442 2 года назад

I think it may very well have been swallowed up. If wasn't large so its a big possibility.

@Cruzdemalta1 6 месяцев назад

Vera Cruz Island was the first name given to Brazil. This is because Pedro Álvares Cabral's expedition carried fragments of what was supposed to be the true cross on which Christ was crucified. `The commanders of large vessels always had remains of the cross, due to the strong religiosity of Europeans'. With the visit of smaller ships, in 1504, the island of Vera Cruz came to be called Terra de Santa Cruz. In 1511, the Portuguese referred to the place as the Land of "Brasilis" and, later, Terra dos Brasis, due to the presence of Brazilwood in the region.

@weekendmom 3 месяца назад

Suggested reading: Phantom Islands Of The Atlantic by Donsld S. Johnson.

@randalllaue4042 Год назад

Wonderful!!

@summerrose9565 3 года назад

Very interesting thank you.

@HistoryCalling 3 года назад

You're welcome. Glad you liked it :-)

@michaelcraig8860 Год назад

Richard Head? 😂😂😂

@jerrydrouillard 3 года назад

Old cartographers used to put false locations on maps to deceive explorers from rival countries. I wonder if this could account for Hy Brasil and it's changing locations.

@HistoryCalling 3 года назад

Yes, someone else mentioned that too. It's a really good idea. It doesn't explain the people who say they saw it, but I think some of them were victims of mirages, or else just making it up.

@SuperRocky74 2 года назад

I love your accent

@alexpowers5117 2 года назад

My new obsession hy brasil

@joeyscamera61 2 года назад

Am I the only one thinking they sailed across the ocean and just didn't realize it?

@janettemccubbin9009 3 года назад

Sounds a bit like the Flying Dutchman or Scotland's Brig O Doon. Perhaps some kind of weather phenomenon.

@theanglerssquad606 Год назад

What if its tir na nog

@Rhaenarys 2 года назад

Just started, so maybe this will be addressed, but my question isn't are they fake, but were they real, but sank? It's not uncommon for small islands to appear only to disappear a few years later.

@Rhaenarys 2 года назад

8 mins in, I'm even more convinced that was what happened. An island...slowly reduced to a smaller rock island...reduced to a rock...reduced to nothing. And if the images are right from satellite, or I should say if I'm looking at them right, it even seems a bit shallow in a couple spots where it was said they were. I think its very reasonable to think they did once exist, not of substantial size or anything, but maybe a spot sailors could stop and reload supplies? Only to slowly "sink" into the ocean like so many other small islands we see today disappearing. It's pretty neat, actually. Also sad, as if my theory is correct, that's land we won't personally see again.

@Rhaenarys 2 года назад

Even further in now, and still going with it. Granted, it's a big gap between surfaces, when you consider the effects of erosion, we have to consider it possibly less distance 500 years ago. I think its very possibly just that shelf.

@aftersexhighfives 3 года назад

Your mic has a lot of hiss. I'm not sure how you can fix that. But thank you for no useless music. Just the right amount of music and lots of well researched interesting topics.

@Rye_Toast 2 года назад

Hy Brasil is the location of the Horn Resounding.

@stephanieking4444 3 года назад

Ah the goode olde dayes when magic and myth could still assist in charting the geographye of this fair planet....Atlantis, the Bermuda Triangle, Hy Brazil.....

@HistoryCalling 3 года назад

Yup, those were the days :-)

@Lucius1958 3 года назад

I wonder, due to its supposed location and inaccessibility, whether Hy Brasil was inspired by the Irish myth of Tir na n'Og [sp?], the Isle of the Ever-Young. The Arthurian connection may be due to a confusion with the equally mythical _insula Avalonis_ ...

@HistoryCalling 3 года назад

Yes, I think the two have sometimes become blended too.

@Lady.Friday 2 года назад

"the Spanish ambassador wrote to king Ferdinand and queen Isabella... *Ad plays* Mom, Dad, I'm a pescitarian now. *Chef's kiss*

@ns-wz1mx 3 года назад

Logical me thinks it’s probably not a real place or ever was. i agree with it being optical illusion, that photo was wild, buttttt I also really really want it to be a mysterious, vanishing, mystical island out there somewhere that only certain people can see or go into 🪄 🔮 😂

@HistoryCalling 3 года назад

I know, the mysterious island option is more fun, isn't it? :-) I couldn't believe the picture of the floating ship the first time I saw it either.

@ns-wz1mx 3 года назад

@@HistoryCalling totally!! and me either!

@WillWilsonII 2 года назад

Richard Head........ huhuhuhuhuhuhuh

@PortsmouthCherokee Месяц назад

Thats where them leprachans be -- hi brasil

@alisoncleeton877 3 года назад

Volcanoes?

@HistoryCalling 3 года назад

Perhaps. :-)

@markgarin6355 2 года назад

Amazing how poorly the actually known world is represented.

@Bus_Driver_Jay 3 года назад

It’s funny seeing this video. I drive coaches for a living, and was winding up a newbie that he couldn’t call himself a true coach driver until he’d done a tour of Hy Brasil.

@HistoryCalling 3 года назад

Aww, you're cruel :-) I hope you enlightened him eventually.

@Bus_Driver_Jay 3 года назад

@@HistoryCalling I did. Eventually. I let him ask the boss first. Boss had never heard of it so that was hilarious to listen to haha

@gonefishing167 3 года назад

That’s mean but really funny 👍👍👍🇦🇺🇦🇺🇦🇺

@naomiskilling1093 3 года назад

Maybe Hy Brasil is a continuation or corruption of the legend of Tir na Óg? It was also supposed to be a magical island to the west of Ireland. Especially considering it was linked to the legends of Arthur, Merlin, and Morgan.

@HistoryCalling 3 года назад

Yes, I wondered if the two were connected as well, as there are (as you correctly point out) some similarities in the tales.

@kamion53 2 года назад

@@HistoryCalling ancient cartographers often relied on the information from seaman and the rather included not that solid prooved landscapes in their maps then leaving them out, and as carographers also used older maps as source fantasies often continued to be included. A self respected cartographer would not be been considered producing incomplete maps. Even in the 20th century there are seemed to be fantasy islands included with only after the use of satelite photography were prooved to be non excisting.

@Irelandforever609 Год назад

Tir na nog was far far away on a different plane to our plane

@matthewwarner692 2 месяца назад

@@kamion53 they could have subken sundenly due to volcanic activity.

@danielasarmiento30 3 года назад

If there had been an island once, it could've perfectly diappeared under the sea at some point. It would make sense to me, if there had been two tiny islands at some point which had later diappear due to erosion or storms or was dragged under sea level and then sailors couldn't find it, and people decided the only way a solid piece of land could disappear is by magic or sorcery

@HistoryCalling 3 года назад

Definitely a possibility and makes for some strange old maps. :-)

@hardyquinn9442 2 года назад

Very true

@FandersonUfo 3 года назад

gorgeous drone footage - I always enjoy the distortions and mistakes in old maps - but we should also be impressed with how much they got right sometimes with very limited info - ty for a very good looking video on an interesting topic

@csh43166 3 года назад

100% agree!

@HistoryCalling 3 года назад

Thank you. Yes, I liked the drone footage I found too. I thought it was very peaceful. I only wish I'd taken it myself! Yes, old maps are, on the whole, more accurate than we have any right to expect them to be and by the 18th century they were getting really good for the most part.

@FandersonUfo 3 года назад

@@HistoryCalling - you have used the footage you found very well - that's a beautiful well paced edit - I think the early cartographers would have what they thought was good evidence of these islands which anyone using their maps believed were real - it might be hard to sell a map of the Atlantic in the 15th century without Hy Brasil on it

@HistoryCalling 3 года назад

Indeed. You don't want people to think you forgot a whole island (speaking of which, I seem to remember a few years ago there was a bit of a to do when a map was seen - perhaps in a school classroom - that had left New Zealand out. Fortunately the New Zealanders were good sports about it, or it could have been a diplomatic incident!)

@FandersonUfo 3 года назад

@@HistoryCalling - just did a quick Google of "map missing NZ" - it happens all the time apparently - especially with things like logos and stylized general world maps because of where NZ winds up on a Mercator projection apparently - PM Jacinda has made of few remarks about the problem on occasion - no war declared yet fortunately - nice history geography combo - this nerd loved it - TY - 🛸

@VeneficusPlantaGenista 2 года назад

In Portuguese, "O Brasil" is simply the name of Brazil, as "O" is the masculine singular definite article. That matches nicely with Mayda/Maida/Maidas, which in several of the maps you showed in this video goes by "As Maidas," which makes perfect sense as a Portuguese name for a set of islands ("as" being the feminine plural definite article). Given the recurrence of these "portguesizations" of these names, is it possible that the ideas are either inspired/taken from real islands owned by Portugal (e.g. the Azores, Madeira, etc, some of which are clearly visible on these maps as well), or by Portuguese myths/legendary islands?

@eugeneomalley8407 3 года назад

In Irish oral lore the name Hybrasil is usually rendered with the emphasis on the vowel "a" rather than the vowel "i" as in the name of the south American country. Aditionally, is it possible that the Azores islands or Madeira might somehow have come into the frame?

@HistoryCalling 3 года назад

They might indeed. I get the impression sailors didn't really know where they were a lot of the time.

@anthonycalbillo9376 3 года назад

Well, this is going to sound odd, but when I lived out in California, my dad and I went out on a fishing boat for a day fishing trip. When we were both out in the Santa Barbara Channel, I saw an island that wasn't there (a mirage,) but my dad said I was just seeing things.

@HistoryCalling 3 года назад

Oh, that sounds spooky. I'm sure it must have freaked you out if you were looking right at it and he was saying there was nothing there.

@anthonycalbillo9376 3 года назад

@@HistoryCalling it was really weird. But after a few moments, I was able to realize it was my eyes playing tricks on me.

@josephc9963 3 года назад

I love how you talk about Hy Brasil and Mayda going on a trip to rebond after Mayda disapeared. As good a reason as any for them moving.

@HistoryCalling 3 года назад

I know. I figured it made as much sense as anything else at that point! :-)

@francespyne7316 3 года назад

Fascinating I have never heard of this, nice to learn something new

@HistoryCalling 3 года назад

Thank you. I wish other people were more open to learning new things too :-)

@jansoule4395 8 месяцев назад

Maybe re post this. It is fascinating and I'm sure a lot of people don't go digging for your older material

@expeditierobin6113 2 года назад

at 1:45: actually it could be possible that the Island of Hy Brasil was already drawn on the Pietro Vesconte’s Atlantic Map of 1321, directly west of Ireland in a sort of triangle form. And at the Carte Pisane Portolan Map of 1275-1300 you can clearly see an island southwest of Ireland en Engeland. This island could very well be Mayda island and it is the oldest image of Mayda island I could find on Portolan maps.

@thirdcoastfirebird Год назад

Thanks for this info. I am using this 'island' in a fantasy novel set up, but different than the mythos of the island itself. The addition of Mayda is a nice little bit I didn't know about. Thank you.

@HistoryCalling Год назад

You're welcome. Good luck with the book :-)

@robertsabharwal9787 2 года назад

Nice video. Could you please do one on Leonardo Da Vinci's world map from 1503? It depicts Antarctica and the American coastline very accurately somehow.

@HistoryCalling 2 года назад

That sounds like a fascinating subject, but to be honest, this video on maps has done so poorly, I don't think it's a topic I'll be revisiting in the near future. I guess other people just don't have the kind of discerning taste you and I do. I'm sorry to disappoint :-( Thank you for watching though.

@oneoflokis Год назад

@History Calling Oh it should though!! 😮😮😮 (If you just stick ATLANTIS and GOVERNMENT COVER-UP on the title and tags should do a lot better though!! 😄😄👍)

@aaacomp1 Год назад

There is no world map attributed to Da Vinci in 1503. There is one supposedly from him dated to 1514 but many scholars disagree it was created by Da Vinci. That map lacks detail, has many misspellings and combines upper and lower case letters on names. The names also do not correspond with any known locations and seem to be gibberish in most cases. The drawings actually resemble papua new guinea and australia and since the only word on the map that actually means anything (Catay) traditionally means Japan. This is more likely an attempted map of the pacific ocean and is certainly not the work of the great Da Vinci.

@stephencarrillo5905 3 года назад

Wonderful! I wasn't at all aware of Hy Brasil so was glued to this video even as our schnauzer Lukas was trying to get my attention. Like other viewers, I love old maps (the sea monsters are always fun) and often wonder at how sailors could traverse the unknown and mysterious waters without freaking out; one odd shadow, wave or trick of the light would have reduced me to a useless mess. 😨 Thanks for another fascinating episode! Be well.

@HistoryCalling 3 года назад

I know. I'd have had a panic attack as soon as we were out of sight of land. Even crossing the Irish Sea or the English Channel were life risking activities back then, never mind heading out into the Atlantic. The old maps are beautiful aren't they? They're one of the reasons I wanted to do this video, so I could show them to people.

@stephencarrillo5905 3 года назад

@@HistoryCalling Today I received "The Phantom Atlas" and am enjoying it immensely! It's a great addition to my personal library. Thanks for the recommendation! 🙏

@lfgifu296 Год назад

I know! I have a fear of travelling by sea, once I had a dream that we were simply taking a trip a little off the coast of some town, and I had a panic attack (in the dream) and even before we lost sight of the land I begged to return😭

@JohnDoe-tx8lq 3 года назад

An interesting video would be: “What Was The Point Of Maps Anyway?!?” 🤓 Looking at historical maps (after watching this video!), how useful where they at the time, who actually used them? Maybe pre-1800s maps where not really what we think of as maps at all, to actually travel, and never considered 'accurate' in anyway, more of a general idea. Other than the rich & educated, who could even read the names of towns? They must have been really expensive, unique hand-drawn documents and with only a vague indication of where things were - completely useless once you’re with 50 miles of your target. I guess there must have be maps for smaller areas, but if any, those would very, very hard to get hold of. I mean, paper / parchment in general was rare, and you couldn’t pop into your local library in Portsmouth and look at the map of London. You’d have to find someone who had knowledge or a hand drawn map of London already. 🤔 Maybe I’m completely wrong (I’m told it happens, apparently!), but it seems travellers / traders would rely on following well worn paths, knowledge passed on verbally, occasional signs(?), and asking the way. The explorers who created them made them for Kings & Queen who wanted to know how much land they had and could exploit - and so they paid for more expeditions. 😎👍 What can I say, it's the weekend, it’s raining and I don't want to leave the house... time to google old maps. 😁

@HistoryCalling 3 года назад

Yes, the ornate ones like those shown here were more like status symbols for the wealthy, though more basic ones (charts really) would have been used by sailors. As for who could read them, from the 17th/18th centuries onwards there was a charity school system, so even poorer people often had some basic literacy, but I can't see them getting their hands on maps very often, or having any great need for them, unless they joined the army or navy. Enjoy your Googling :-)

@JohnDoe-tx8lq 3 года назад

@@HistoryCalling I didn't realise there was a charity school system as early as that, even a basic one - that's really impressive! 😎

@HistoryCalling 3 года назад

Yes, it started a bit later in Ireland, but they were copying the English system in many respects. I'm less sure about Scotland.

@Ceibhfhionn 2 года назад

Your Q&A video sent me here, and I think it's one of your best yet! My favorite throw-away line is the fellow who became a practicing doctor post-abduction. Would love to learn the connection there.

@eliscanfield3913 3 года назад

That mirage happens once in a great while over Lake Erie, you can see Canada from the US 50 miles away. (Dunno if it goes the other way)

@HistoryCalling 3 года назад

Oh that's really interesting. I've never heard of that phenomenon before. It must look amazing.

@Lassisvulgaris 3 года назад

Seems like a parallell to Doggerland. At extreme low tide, parts Of Doggerbank can be seen.....

@HistoryCalling 3 года назад

Yes, perhaps it was something submerged a long time ago like that.

@ronaldronca6060 2 года назад

I wonder if the island was actually a huge ice berg possibly containing a chunk of land broken off with the ice berg . Could be possible, that part of the Atlantic was a natural ice flow route created by a then existing southerly current, with only the extremely large lasting so long. It's possible in that area the current altered enough to leave the ice berg stationary or more likely a condensed circular motion. I had to come back here, after listening a bit longer you gave an answer to a question I had been giving some thought. A shoal or ocean bank of 100 plus meters would most certainly capture a passing ice berg and one as big as an fairly sized island would definitely extend 300 to 500 meters below the surface. Knowing now such a bank exists in that location I'm nearly convinced it was a huge ice berg. It's generally accepted that winters were much colder and longer in a period covering the 11th century into the 18th. Cold enough in the north Atlantic to drastically slow the natural melting process, just as drastically it would speed up in the much the warmer period we've experienced the past 2 centuries. Any bit of land residue would then break up and sink. There one day gone the next.

@amymahers2957 3 года назад

Just got to listen this morning. Have never heard of these two islands. Well, once again, you had me enthralled with the stories and legends! I so appreciate your knowledge, delivery and subjects. Thank you!

@HistoryCalling 3 года назад

Thank you so much. I'm glad you enjoyed it :-)

@daizyflower272 Год назад

This is covered by Robert Sepher's and he actually explores Google earth-and there it is!!! Underwater. So it did exist.

@Remember_Sammy_Jankis Год назад

It never existed they just all copied each others maps over hundreds of years. It was a mythical island well known to sailors were mythical creatures live

@Wee_Catalyst 8 месяцев назад

21:05 “How far away was it?” “Eh . . . I could have tossed a biscuit on the shore” 😂 It me

@Jemini4228 3 года назад

The descriptions of giant tree like men roaming about the island make me wonder if one JRR Tolkien had heard the tales too.

@HistoryCalling 3 года назад

Yes, it does seem suspiciously like that doesn't it? :-)

@jamestnov41945 3 года назад

Well done my Dear. I agree with your conclusion. My personal favorite is the mirage.

@HistoryCalling 3 года назад

Thank you :-)

@steampunkpixie2643 2 года назад

It sounds a bit like Tir Na Nog, which is an Island in Irish folklore.

@dominiqueparisi4618 2 года назад

just look under water it proberly sunk

@cyan1616 6 месяцев назад

Hy Brasil... aka the Arran Islands.

@JohnDoe-tx8lq 3 года назад

People see what they want to see. Let’s face it, those sea trips could take months with very little to see. While travel and exploration of an ocean is an exciting idea, the day to day life on those small ships must have got pretty boring, especially if you’re craving for adventure and stories for your diary! Any kind of shape that seems to be in the distance can slowly evolve into “it must have been that island” when retold. (Mermaids, anyone?) And look at how in-accurate the maps of mainland coasts where - and these where populated areas, constantly being observed. So no one would notice or write about a tiny island that they DIDN”T see in the middle of a vast ocean, they’ll just presume they passed it. It’s actually pretty difficult to prove something DOESN'T exist. I think the islands are out there… there’s no smoke without fire, it’s a Govt conspiracy and it’s on the internet. 😎👍

@HistoryCalling 3 года назад

Who knows what they saw, or thought they saw, but I agree with you that the men (and I think it was always men at this point) must have been bored to tears, when they weren't worried about being shipwrecked or drowned and imaginations may have become a bit inflamed.

@rabbiezekielgoldberg2497 2 года назад

14:04 "Lol," he said. "Lmao"

@Moebian73 3 года назад

Also there have been visions above land where people have seen a whole ancient city, some thought it was an image of an alternate universal place but ended up being a mirage of some sort. Wonderful video footage of hills & that sunset along with your voice relaxed me so much I nearly took a nap. lol :) Good job as always. :)

@HistoryCalling 3 года назад

Thank you :-) The stories of the ancient cities in the sky remind me of the 'His Dark Materials' books if you've ever read them. I wonder if that's where the author got the idea ...

@Moebian73 3 года назад

@@HistoryCalling I've wondered about that too. Hmm, I wonder if Pullman is on Twitter, I can ask. :) Update: I asked. Doubt he'll reply though. 😟

@HistoryCalling 3 года назад

Fingers crossed :-)

@Moebian73 3 года назад

@@HistoryCalling For me, toes (Was born without hands) :)

@jerrydrouillard 3 года назад

Fata Morgana?

@kaber759 Год назад

It's coordinates 53.98n -12.69w

@Ranbo_dog 7 месяцев назад

Where do i put these cords?

@ArielBookworm 3 года назад

Funny I was just thinking about this island yesterday

@HistoryCalling 3 года назад

Your wish is my command! :-)

@darraghchapman 3 года назад

We read a story (it may have been in Irish, 'an t-oileán ar snámh') in primary school about a floating island shrouded in mist that appears every seven years. Worth noting that seven (as well as three and nine) are used very often in Irish folklore, partly because of numerology spread over many european cultures but also as a memory aid for the seanchaí reciting the story. My memory is a bit foggy--excuse the pun--but I seem to remember a magical woman living on the island with a dress made of kelp... but not much more than that. I wouldn't be surprised if that story is the origin of the Brasil myth, or at least bolstered the idea when recounted to curious map-makers and mariners.

@HistoryCalling 3 года назад

The bit about the mist and 7 years is right in line with Hy Brasil myths, but I haven't heard a story about a woman in a kelp dress before. I wonder if two separate stories have merged? I think you're correct that stories like that can bolster myths such as the Hy Brasil tale.

@darraghchapman 3 года назад

@@HistoryCalling I reckon mutual reinforcement and back-and-forth exchange is the likeliest scenario, and perhaps the kelpy (rather than kelpie :P ) woman was swapped for Arthur to appeal to an Anglo-French audience at some stage. Of course this is a half-remembered retelling of a myth reworked for an audience of children, so couldn't be further from a verifiable source. Knowing Irish mythology, there was probably far more gore and messed up magical mishap in the 'original', and it's likely that even a few centuries back there would have been several versions being recounted from various lineages of oral tradition around the country.

@HistoryCalling 3 года назад

Oh definitely. You hear different versions of the Giant's Causeway myth for instance.

@kae5717 2 года назад

The amazing sea monster early in the video got me thinking: have you found any other documentation of sea monsters and the like in your research? I'd be really interested in a video about such strange sightings.

@spo616 3 года назад

I’ve been intrigued by hyBrasil for a while yet and I’m so glad you did this video!👍🏻👍🏻🙂😍👌👌😍🙏🏻

@paulfogarty7724 2 месяца назад

I wonder.....that Porcupine bank location seems bang - on in comparison to a lot of those old maps. Suspiciously close in fact. Maybe some underwater earthquake or landslide submerged it at some point ?...

@WhirledPublishing 2 года назад

In the past 100 years, many islands have appeared and disappeared - due to tsunami waves, storm surges, etc., as well as volcanic lava emerging from the seafloor, etc. - this is nothing new - happens all the time.

@lorisewsstuff1607 3 года назад

I have wondered if maybe early Viking mariners went off course and saw volcanic islands near Iceland and took the stories with them to England. It's not unusual for islands of that nature to be created and then sink or be blown apart by tectonic activity. They don't exist long enough to acquire vegetation, but saying, "I discovered a lush green island," does sound more exciting than, "I saw a big pile of rocks sticking out of the ocean."

@HistoryCalling 3 года назад

Haha, yes, maybe. Those pesky Vikings! :-)

@AncientRylanor69 10 месяцев назад

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@csh43166 3 года назад

I love ancient and old documents, maps, books, letters, etc. Not only is the information they contain fascinating, they have great visual appeal, as well! I can't help but ponder which of the "disappearing" land masses on old maps were flights of fancy, mistakes or a place that actually existed, but has since been erased by the forces of nature... Thank you for another great video!

@HistoryCalling 3 года назад

I wonder the same thing and some of the old maps are so beautiful. I love all the little drawing of ships, sea monsters and mermaids they put on them.

@csh43166 3 года назад

@@HistoryCalling Indeed!!!

@quietdignityandgrace Год назад

Quick question, Nasa and the US Navy mapped the worlds oceans like a decade(?) ago; any bumps or ridges that could have been in the area? Also sea levels are a bit different now as apposed to 3 - 4 hundred years ago. Porcupine... maybe I should watch all of the video before asking questions. Thanks, love the channel.

@bazdaniels7420 Год назад

Remember, that some coastal lands continue to sink over time. And remember, that as time went on, Hy Brasil increasingly had the reputation as a "rock" rather than "island." It sounds like lands sinking. Which would account for Porcupine depths beyond what could be caused by rising sea levels.

@gonefishing167 3 года назад

There are records which state that some land masses can appear and disappear. Something to do with the movement of the tectonic plates or volcanic activity. Or perhaps that was written by the same people who put it on the maps 👍👍👍🇦🇺🇦🇺🇦🇺🇦🇺

@HistoryCalling 3 года назад

Yes, I've heard about volcanos creating and destroying land, but it is odd how often this island seems to pop up and go away again. I think you're correct that the cartographers had a lot to do with the myth of Hy Brasil.

@stephennicolay1940 Год назад

You should try to locate the work of Nicolas de Nicolay, as he sailed a round the western coast of Ireland in about 1530, supported by the King of France. I think there is information about him on Wikipedia.

@nefariousjohnson8851 Год назад

Robert Sepehr's work on Hy-Brasil actually shows a connection between its name and the naming of Brazil.

@williamthierry5976 Год назад

Chances are good. That the name of Brazil was actually based on the name of this island. Since that language is Celtic, and Hy Breasil means "descendants of red" and in the territory of Brazil a wood was found in abundance that was called "red as an ember". So there's a good chance it's based on the name of that island itself, because of the wood red as an ember and linking to the "descendants of red" from Hy Breasil.

@krzysztofzpucka7220 29 дней назад

Check out three islands from 1587 Urbano Monte World Map - Brasil, Frisland and Hitlanda (now Porcupine Bank, Rockall Plateau and Faroe Islands) - and compare them with a 300m sea level drop map.

@leticiagarcia9025 3 года назад

A mirage or disoriented sailors are possibilities. We will never know the truth. Even today their are explorers still looking for this island and Atlantis. I agree that science fiction writers are red meat for today’s explorers. I wish them luck even though I believe it’s a fool’s errand. Thanks again for another great video. An interesting subject.

@HistoryCalling 3 года назад

Thanks Letitcia. I think there are some very ordinary explanations for it as well, rather than magical mists that cover it up most of the time.

@leticiagarcia9025 3 года назад

@@HistoryCalling These mysteries make good fiction for novels, tv and movies.

@HistoryCalling 3 года назад

Absolutely. Loch Ness monster eat your heart out. :-)