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I have the EQV300 from 2021 and I love it every day. My family and I drow it from Denmark to Monaco last summer and no one got sick from sitting in the back. The experience was great. 😊
I was worried about that as well but typically we stopped when we had 15-20% left on the battery. That made sense when we had driven for ~2 hours and everyone needed a break. When you have ~15% left it takes around 25 minutes to charge to 100%. That is the time it takes to go to the rest room and buy a cheeseburger 😊 What I have noticed afterwards is that the EQV fast charge every time at 106kw whereas some cars drop significantly the second time they charge.
I opted for the EQV Sport premium (extra long) here in the UK as a family 7 seater. The cabin space and the boot capacity is beyond any comparison to any 7 seater 4x4. Since it’s an EV, the ride is extra smooth and the kids love it.
thumbs up. not quite center of gravity but more the inverted pendulum swinging of the higher seating is the problem. even with low center of gravity in general, when the road is not flat that inverted pendulum swing will make you feel lethargic and drowsy. higher center of gravity can reduce this(bus) by slowing it down but then it will have a negative effect on chassis dynamics
Why people choose a van over a sedan? Easy because getting out of a sedan is always a pain in the rear. Especially if you’re an older person pulling yourself up and out is uncomfortable and unpleasant. And personally driving is better in a sedan but riding if there’s a proper suspension setup the van is better.
Yes, finally it seems the designers are re-awaking up to what should have been done years ago (which also coincides with my firm convictions all along) that as far as bonneted Mercedes-Benz are concerned, there remains a place for the upright standing star as a timeless design feature to be kept available as a standard feature if not at least as optional specification upon the vehicle purchase. High time they do this as, frankly speaking, i grown sick & tired seeing too many of the new models like E-Class & below without the upright star above the bonnet ! The only valid excuse for not having the upright star in a Mercedes-Benz is if there's no bonnet in the model design i.e. the modern buses & coaches & cab-over-engine trucks & some van models.
The big coupes never had the upright star though. The C126 for example is beautiful with the star in the grille. Just like the SL:s. For everything else though I agree. It looks tacky on the sedans.
@@martinsvensson6884 The Pagoda, SEC, SL etc. these i interpret as Mercedes interpretation of 'old man's sports car' so probably they made exception for these models to hide the star under the bonnet line so the driver can focus more on the road driving these 'fast cars' in contrast to the more stately 'slower speed' saloon cars where the upright star serves as useful 'marker' to help the 'old man driver' keep his distance better from hitting anything in front as well as to remind the driver is driving a 'stately car' with 'presence' instead of a 'sports car' so that one's driving manners are adjusted to suit the type of vehicle being driven ?! Anyway irregardless, i don't consider myself as 'old man driver' yet but i've always preferred to drive a bonneted Mercedes-Benz with the upright star as the upright emblem has the psychological effect of making one 'feel good' & comfortable when driving a premium or luxury class automobile. As far as i'm concerned i don't like driving a bonneted M-B with no upright star as the 'standard' is then not there i.e. it then is more like driving some 'ordinary' car of which there exists so many brands out there to choose from !!
@seansiew5629 I always say people who makes comments like yours don't know what they're are talking about. 7series is no match for s class in terms of reliability and durability.
@patrickamponsah679 well as I owner of a w221 and w222,I clearly disagree about new Mercedes reliability, post w223 reliability is garbage,as my mechanics repair these daily, it's obvious from your GLS profile picture,the new Mercedes quality went downhill,which is the reason why BMW sells better than Mercedes
@@patrickamponsah679 and a 4 cylinder hybrid C63 is more reliable than the M3? I guess for you every Mercedes is the same, Mercedes isn't Toyota level of reliability anymore
@@petrocellihouse This^. They can be removed, and it also makes them quicker to adjust for loading cargo behind them. I wish all cars let you manually adjust back and forth. It takes about 30 seconds to move my BMW seats the full length.
I know what you’re saying about sliding out of the seats, I wonder if more lower leg support would shift your centre of gravity up a bit? Food for thought for Mercedes there I think… Great video 👍🏻
Elderly, pregnant, disabled people prefer vans because its easy to get into and out of. The automatic doors which can be operated by the driver are also convenient for dropping kids off at school. In Asian countries we take corners very slowly so that passengers do not feel nauseous. The shifter is the most convenient i have ever used. I can easily shift from drive, neutral, to park, and back to drive when stuck in stop and go traffic, without taking my hands off the wheel. The v class is such a nice car.
The association with the 'toilyolet' Corona/Crown etc. type of mundane unimpressive uninspiring cars is too strong for me that i never have 'good impressions' of anything Lexus branded to ever want to touch these.
@@hseochinlol!!!! but you are impressed by all the cheap shiny surfaces in the mercedes reflecting light everywhwre in your face an passengers right! i mean even the infotainment looks outdated in the mercedes, the super old touch control for the infotainment too outdated!
@@alanmay7929 No as matter of fact (assuming you referring to the right person & have been following my trend of thoughts on Mercedes-Benz vehicles for the past 10+ years) I have NOT stated any likeness for glossy shiny surfaces. So your assumptions beliefs on what you think I stand for is not accurate, incorrect ! Matter of fact I don't mind saying it clearly that I never like (irregardless of what make of vehicle) anything which is too much shiny/glossy, excessive chrome, no blue instrument lighting etc. The newer Mercedes-Benz models in more recent times I actually do NOT quite like them as much as the older ones from 90's era..which is more to the standards I expect. Having said the above, I in overview nevertheless tend to still gravitate towards Mercedes-Benz because of my perception that they still tend to offer what I call the 'best compromise' products in the automobile sector overall speaking. That applies across the board i.e. their cars, vans, buses, coaches etc. Along the way there of course will have things in some their products which I clearly don't believe in or do not like..what that does is reduce my margin of preference for their brand/products but ultimately (so far at least provided they don't wander too far off course) I have never ruled out switching preferences for some other makes out there. Hope you now have broader understanding of how I see Mercedes-Benz, having been using their vehicles for hell of long time since 1972 when our 1st M-B an S-Class was purchased brand-new back then.
I would still stick to the lexus LM or the Toyota Alphard coz they have perfected the ride of those vans for a long time and their durability will be superb even after 15 - 20 yrs!
Yes i also don't like the so-called 'modern treatment' so unnecessary done on the dashboard of many these models the past even 10 to 15 years back !! I want less chrome, less glossy surfaces, use of amber coloured needles ONLY, use of warm-white character lighting instead !!
@@hseochin It was perfected with the classic MB dashboards from the 80/90's. Never experienced any glair from the sun anywhere in those. Then they decided to throw those values in the trash bin and make it worse. Less clear instrument gauges. Just for the sake of change.
@@martinsvensson6884 Exactly..change for the change sake without real point to change.. that's the problem ?! In many ways I continue to like prefer the 'old' designs from W124/210/140. They should just keep the looks same but inside make the improvements like using flat panel display to replace the physical dial & needles. Also should use big screen under the dashboard hood for centre console instead of just fixing a tablet-like small screen !
There is a reason why Sprinter was never renamed as part of the V class. In 30 years they were not able to catch up with VW...and in some aspects even with the French when it comes to the V class cars.
Mercedes-Benz Sprinter is mainly as commercial van sector product, strictly nothing to do with the V-Class is under their 'personal wagon' segment...very different target markets. Hardly any product overlap except maybe in those cases where people looking for platform to build a campervan..in which case the obvious choice is the Sprinter or to lesser extend the Vito to work on instead.
Please show another V-class Avantgarde for 8 seats. This is a unique option, because there is no alternative for 4 pairs of people. WV and Staria do not offer this. And there are no SUVs for 8 either.
Ich bin für 25+ Jahre Mercedes-Benzes gefahren. Infolgedessen weiss ich, dass die gut gebaut sind--wie Panzer. Auch, das Fraulein in diesem Video ist niedlich--gut gemacht. 😊
When in comes to building luxury vans the Japanese do it the best. This is not even on the same level with the Toyota Alphard/Vellfire or the Lexus LM. There is a lack of any type of entertainment or automated seat features which is not the same with the Lexus or Toyota. The pioneers of building luxurious vans will forever be Toyota and Lexus. This is however untrue when it comes to the S-class and the German sedans.
Does the Rolls Royce Phantom have that same g-force experience that Thomas identifies as a problem for van passengers? I wonder if they could lower the van slightly, or reduce the roll in corners some how?
Now that the Mercedes-Benz Metris has been sunset in the USA… I would love to have the V-Class in America: for freight, for luxury transport, for large families and especially for #VanLife camping…especially as a 4Matic..!!
What the V-Class lacks are more engine options, a V6 and/or a V8 Diesel would have been perfect, one other thing Mercedes should add to this car, is the possibility to choose a Brake upgrade, a 2 split brake disk whit 6 pot Brembo caliper in front, and 4 pot on rear + det same in Carbon Ceramic. I have the 2020 whit 239hp..crusing in 180km/h at 2000rpm.
I think that is kind of cool... However I don't think that we will get them in the states. We have an E450 being built at the end of the week, and might order an S Class as well. But this van could come in handy.
I think V-Class platform and overall suspension is still based on V-Class for Commercial Van... hence why the comfort can't match the S-Class or Lexus LM... While the Lexus LM platform is based from Toyota Camry (basically they used a large sedan platform and make it a Luxury Van)
V-Class i expect (as standard) air suspension not coil spring ordinary suspension so in that regard S-Class of course nowadays come standard with air suspension. I remember those Toyota Priva egg shaped MPV...absolutely lousy commercial van like suspensions..no standard at all compared to even the 1st gen V-Class with self leveling button controlled air suspension, say the least.
In Bangkok, my family have one 2020 V-class and 2019 Vito, they are strong and reliable but their platform is too old. NVH, comfort, dynamics can not match the new Lexus LM and Toyota Alphard. The new V-class still share most of car structure with the old V, I don’t think this V can match both LM and Alphard.
If comparing 4-cylinder (petrol/diesel) model to 6-cylinder petrol model then of course the NVH levels unlikely would match. Your V-Class should be 6-cylinder (even if diesel model) then would be interesting to find out the NVH with other makes V6 etc. Also air-suspension should be standard for supreme passenger comfort levels. Mercedes vans known for competent road manners dynamics so not surprise they make good ambulances in many countries worldwide with their excellent high speed stability, even with the bigger heavier Sprinter vans.
If I had a Mercedes V class, I would have a few houses like that and Bigger and better main residence. V class Vans cater to ultra high clientele who usually also have personal security with them
Its a design/material flaw. This wouldn’t happen if the animal wouldn’t be that slick, also you saw that the Lexus model has different economics where it doesn’t happen
@@autogefuehl I know, I was just suggesting a work round that’s not ideal. However if Mercedes could have tilted the base of the seat slightly, the seating position would be a lot more relaxing and comfortable.
Cant they make a new R-class...? Just dont make it as ugly as possible this time and maybe it will sell... I dont really like the full height of a van. Just rolls over when you crash them. And driving characteristics suffer. The R was suitable in between. Not higher than necessary. Nice to just have a bit higher up seating than a regular car when stepping in and out.
Come on Thomas, the LM has a vastly superior front cockpit and doesn't have a manual steering column with a crumpled newspaper underneath! German-bias again!
I don't have the villa in the south of France, but I do have the S-class (V223) and l don't understand how one can even entertain the idea of comparing an S-class to a van 😮. Some keywords: sound isolation, suspension, seat comfort, design .... What is better in the van is that there are actually some physical control buttons; Mercedes really overdid it with touch controls in the S-class 😮💨
Unfortunately, there is a significant difference between the S Klass and the V Klass vehicle and this difference is detracting from the V Class. namely, it is an engine in the V classes, the engines are miniature in relation to the car's weight and dimensions, the S class offers something proportional to the interior equipment in this matter It's a pity that such a luxurious van only has engines suitable for the C class, maybe also the E class I hope this will change someday.
That's hillarious to see manual adjustments in a car over 100K. 😂 You can buy the regular V class in Uzbekistan and turn into a way better version of the car in the video for 20K on top, everything would be automatic, the seats would recline all over to the back, there would be additional tables in the seats to work, a lot of additional USB slots and, of course, there wouldn't be those ridiculous cords from the seats that would only prevent from loading the trunk and might be easily damaged by suticases.
I do not understand why you would buy a van that can only carry 4 people. The use cases for a van are more for carrying 6 to 8 people. Just use another seating configuration.
Funny, my first thought was that it would be great for musicians, with comfortable seats and plenty of room or equipment behind you. I rarely carry a lot of people, but often carry a lot of cargo. In the US you often see these with just the front seats, delivering for more ritzy types.
The solution must be something in between as Ford Galaxy etc (sadly not in production anymore). Unfortunately, marketing won, engineering (and common sense) lost.
The styling is still too close to a commercial van. The Toyota and Lexus vans look 2 generations from the future. Mercedes still has to up its game in this segment.
Don‘t understand the comparing to Lexus LM because it looks ugly inside and outside in my opinion. I am waiting for Volvo EM90 and new EV Generation for V Class (more weight in the underbody should reduce the rolling) and will compare then in test rides by myself.
Now I’m even more happy that I bought my V-class last year and was not waiting for this ugly thing. Mercedes is getting worse and worse every year……. That’s a pity
Lexus, kia and hyundai have been long i upper class vans. The japanese and koreans use this for a long time to drive their vips. He ,ercedes is just well cringe. Still looks rather cheap and gimmicky. But no mather the car Thomas always makes it enjoyable.😊😅
