Is the Riot MMO Cancelled? 

This is really scary to learn about, because Riot games' games are hyper streamlined knock offs of other games already, so it feels REALLY weird when "an mmo similar to others" wasn't up their alley.

They're all Schrödinger's MMO at this point.

I paid the 100 bucks to play Landmark, never getting that cash back.

Ugh, the EQ next footage breaks my heart to see.

0:50 This is a complicated issue. MMOs shouldn't have to reinvent the wheel, but fresh ideas are good. We have done too many quests that are "Go kill 10 boars, and collect 10 boar asses.", and want something new. MMOs shouldn't throw away ideas that work, and players like, just because they want to be innovative. I have seen some rather insane ideas for "innovation" on the MMORPG subreddit. Some people hate metagaming so much, that the wanted the damage of all abilities, and the stats of gear randomized every few minutes. However ideas like that are mostly because people want the game designed in such a way as to hurt other groups of players. That example is someone who is willing to sacrifice almost everything in the game, just to hurt players that want to be good at the game. Another problem is defining what "works" in MMOs there is a saying that "Screen doors work on submarines if your standard of "Work" is low enough." One example would be WoW having the players into factions the Alliance and the Horde. Year ago players would say that it works well in WoW, but now players have stressed the system, and found out that it is best for players to join the faction on their server that has the most players. Some people would argue that this means that dividing players into factions doesn't work, since players are incentivized to join the largest faction.

No. You cannot say "The game doesn't need to be perfect, gamers are just ravenous for something new!", when you know damn well if game isn't up to everyone's standards, they will hate-brigade it and anyone associated with its' creation into oblivion, wishing death on their children and worse. Not how it works. If a game dev says the "game wasn't fun", it's best to believe them.

Who ever thought Riot MMO still exists after Ghostcrawler departed was crazy, and who ever thinks they are actually still going to have MMO out in next 10 years ( or better say ever ) are insane

What we need is an MMO with a truly evolving world based off player interaction like ever quest next was supposed to do. Dynamic event was a step in that direction but because they constantly reset off of timers they really did not bring what needed to be done.

lol that sounds like 1000% pure uncut copium coming from the riot team. Sounds like they are up a creek.

I posted a few weeks ago that MMOs are dead. This sucks so bad because MMOs gave me the best gaming experience over any other video game genre. RIP MMOs

This should be a clear point in why Ghostcrawler left. He knew this game was dead and going to fail so he said screw it and left to make his own game.

I agree, doesn't need to be ground breaking. Heck, Monsters and Memories is looking fun to me. Just like a EQ reboot with different zones and items. But I am a bit biased😁

This is horrible news.

I def want a mmo i've played before that has a runeterra coat of paint on it for sure.

I think 4-7 years is probably a safe bet. I'm not surprised they're delaying it because 2XKO looks like a pretty unique fighting game.

I wonder if this is anything like how movie studios will shelve a finished movie for the tax write-off? There’s been a few high profile examples of that recently. It really fires people up when it’s a movie they looked forward to.

Fortunately we have Indie studios doing the heavy lifting :)

I want a Runeterra coat of paint for sure - I do not need them to innovate and make something that might end up, not even hitting the mark that us MMO people want. I honestly think their problem is that they are not really MMO'ers and thus dont really know what most MMO'ers actually want. We wanted a new game, backed by a great dev that could "take over" from other games. I really think they shot themselves in a foot here, but i guess time will tell. I fear we are getting something that no one asked for nor wanted in the end. Sad news Hopefully EQ3 ends up happening instead

And people cry about Ashes of Creation coming to alpha just this year

My sincere guess is that mmo players are just old by now. Any big company making huge investments in a game like this has no idea on how to attract the new younger audience that would be needed to sustain it.

I'm ok. I try to not get excited about a game until it has a name. Some thoughts: Riot wants to be innovative? I am not sure there is a lot of successful innovation left in the MMORPG genre. It doesn't help that most MMOs that aren't fantasy-based aren't received well and eventually canceled. Games that try something new rarely do very well either. Maybe the problem is us (not you and me - we're cool dudes that get it) I mean us in general.

It sucks when an awesome studio cancels a project... However, we've seen games launch that shouldn't have launched at all lately. We don't need more average or below par games. As much as we all want to play something amazing tomorrow... we might have to wait a while. Overall, if this stops the launch of of something average and we get something great in the future, I'm willing to wait for something amazing. Like you said in the video, we've been waiting for 20+ already. I'm willing to wait a few more to get something new and refreshing. I'm kind of excited to see what they come up with to be honest. Lets roll the dice for optimism!

Damn.. This was our best bet for finally getting a new big mmo. Hopefully they can pull it together, because I don’t think any other major studio has an mmo in the works. I know a few indie MMOs are looking good, but I’m looking for the next big thing that everyone is playing, like what we used to get.

I would play classic tab target MMO with LoL universe coat with a great pleasure. I think they made a bad decision.

MMOs without Gnomes are doomed to fail.

On one hand, since the only other MMO that really captured my interest was GW2, the MMO trying to not be like every other MMO, I'd more than welcome Riot to try and do the same. On the other hand, I could have a wife and kids by the time this MMO actually comes out!

So much copium on the Riot MMO, the next WoW killer. Until you learn it was just another scam. (sigh).

Seems like they are back in the pitch phase. If someone comes up with a brilliant design then they'll build on it. If they can't pull up something brilliant and original, then they'll just scrap it altogether.

I'll tell you the game I would LOVE to see released with little more than a new coat of paint (and a transition to a PC platform): Everquest Online Adventures. I truly loved a lot about that game, but was perpetually frustrated by it being on the PS2 which simply did not do it's graphics any favors and really forced it to be extremely simplistic so as to allow players with only a controller to still play the game. Applying modern graphics -- and even just modern controller capabilities -- would allow EQOA to fulfill all the potential it could never realize at the time, imo.

Not even Riot can pop out a MMO in 4 years ;)

ESO and SWTOR are only around 10years old... Why does everyone think that "nothing good" has come since Wow in 2007? SWTOR, ESO, WildStar, Albion, BDO (some people), eve, Phantasy Star Online, PHO2, Archeage to name a few.

Sorry Red: many good points, but you were upstaged by the be-coned kitty.

What was the game even called?

I have tried most of the newer MMOs, and yet, the MMO that i am currently playing is Everquest 🤣🤣🤣

Big AAA compagny = @$#% game anyway

The issue is there is fighting on MMORPG and what people want (Lets go back to 1999 or 2004 and yes the people screaming 1999 is louder). Then there is Developers who go lets make something New. Sorry but it's a Big mess. Really at this point I have hope for Ashes of Creation while just seeing how Pantheon doing makes me sick another 1999 MMORPG that having issues going against other 1999 Games that are better at least Embers adrift has a Map.

Personally I think the MMO genre has been dead for a long time. Not because developers don't want to create them, but they are too costly of a gamble for a return on their investment. I know this is probably not going to be a popular opinion but I think that A.I. might just be the tech that will streamline the cost of making mmos and maybe save the genre. That is my feelings anyway.

The d4 campfire today was really good. S4 should be a huge step forward.

first!

I mean WoW and FF14 are doing really well. I don't think "MMOs need to be saved".

I've just given up on "modern" MMOs. Gone back playing Anarchy Online, my first ever MMO.

I miss the days when we never knew about a game until it was just here being advertised on TV.

I don't think it's looking good right now, but in 2 years there might be a good/bad curve ball from out of nowhere that makes or breaks the riot mmo.