Everytime RyeToast talks about lack of media literacy and online safety/common sense, I gain back some of the brain cells I've lost by being online for 18 years.
Fun fact : the term foil in literature comes from jewellery, where a piece of metal foil is used to line a place where a shiny rock will be placed. It helps reflect the light that shines through the stone and makes it appear brighter
I think part of being overly trusting of ppl saying stuff online in the fnaf fandom might be because so much of fnaf fandom activity requires that kind of trust. Like a lot of ppl here don’t play the games, a lot of people don’t read the books, etc, so when they go to watch smth they have to trust the narrator to get *anythinh* out of the experience
hey Rye, immunocompromised viewer here - appreciate you speaking to covid not being over in this vid even though it wasn't directly related to the topic. I think the narrative that covid is "over" is really harmful - not just in an obvious way to folks like me, but everyone, like the younger folks you speak to in the segment you bring up covid. I also appreciate you speaking to the socioeconomic reasons we largely act like like covid's "over" even though it's not - namely, capitalism. been watching your vids for awhile now and always got the sense our politics probably overlapped quite a bit, and it's nice to see you confirm that so openly. keep up the good work, friend!
They really are, there's like some sort of circle of people who choose to believe stitchline, and when anyone speaks out against it or chooses not to believe it, they go in and press them on why it HAS to be canon and why other interpretations and theories are wrong. Genuinely is sad.
@@DualityNevermore it's crazy that Razzbowski ended up tweeting about how awful modern fnaf fandom is regarding theories lmfao Probably one of the most positive FNaF personalities is also feeling the heat and not liking it, some of these goobers need to reevaluate themselves.
I like what you had to say on William still being around and how the Mimic plays into that. The more time I've had to ponder it, I'm starting to think that they're more connected than I thought previously. Let's roll with Crispy Willie being kept alive in the burnt wreckage of the FNAF6 location, tortured in UCN by the vengeful spirit. When Help Wanted is being made (the actual in-universe game), it's stated that some old circuit boards are brought in to scan and pull data from to help program the robots in the game. But that's when Glitchtrap starts showing up. Since we know that spirits can be split up into multiple chunks, for lack of a better term, I'm postulating that some of Crispy Willie's spirit is out in a digital form, piggybacking on the Mimic1 program. The other part is what wound up being made into Burntrap. It would explain why Burntrap was rather brainless and pathetic. It would also explain why the Mimic1 program feels like a William Afton copycat killer and not quite the real thing. If one watches the Burntrap cutscenes, it's clear that the fried rabbit wants to escape, wants to get out. The Tangle, seemingly, doesn't want that to happen. But say that when Burntrap was taken up into the Tangle, Afton's presence was able to overpower and take control. This leads to the Tangle tunneling its way to the surface. But what about the Mimic? We're never told exactly what robots the scanned parts came from. It's entirely possible that (given that we know that Mimic endos were once in wide use and the Mimic1 program was used to help train/teach the robots what to do, it's possible that we got either THE OG Mimic board or a Mimic board. Doesn't really matter either way) by using the Mimic1 program to help make the game, the essence of Smokie Afton could have latched on to that since it would give a large measure of control over the robots and possibly more. Once peepaw is integrated into the Pizzaplex systems, he can help nudge the Mimic into getting itself set free so that it can also be absorbed into the Tangle and we get our trash rabbit Afton Amalgamation.
That what I was thinking william glichtrap burntrap and princess cassidy golden Freddy possessed the blob amalgamation tangle. Cuz the blob eyes are black in ruin now They were red in first security breach and in ruin in Gregory comic the blob eyes are purple just like glichtrap burntrap william purple guy.
@@Oreo-kv4gc _Please_ use punctuation, your first sentence looks like a string of keywords and the second one turns into that two-thirds of the way through.
He knows it exists and that we want a review!! He said in a stream that he just hasn't had the time to watch such a long video from a new creator (yet)
@@SammySinner6 I'd recommend going back and watching it all, they really build things up, I think their conclusions are wild but they build a really interesting case over the video and even if I don't completely agree I think they make some good points
Personally I think the stitchwraith is a symbol for Golden Freddy and how the crying child and vengeful spirit are interacting with each other and the world around them. Also, I really liked the discussion on Internet Safety at the end, its definitely an interesting topic that should be addressed more.
If the Stitchwraith is in the games, it does not NECESSARILY follow that the other stuff in Fazbear Frights is in the games. You may be able to argue that, but it there is no direct logical implication to stand on. You must rejustify other non-Stichwraith Fazbear Frights components for this statement to be compelling. It’s possible the Stichwraith is in the games but has a completely different context.
That would be inconsistent with the games showing the truth though. Why go out of their way to make games based on real events in a way that passes of facts as over exaggeration and then make up negative stuff about them when Fazbear Entertainment's trying to restore their reputation?
@@vincentadamsvga It depends on which game you're talking about. The INDIE GAMES and Help Wanted are part of the coverup, not all Fazbear-made games. The arcade games are just games made to suck up change using whatever IPs Fazbear has, they aren't part of any grand scheme outside of the glitch shenanigans.
I think the biggest problem with frightsgames/talesgames is that both of those book series do NOT have the storytelling of fnaf’s main continuity. Usually, the story telling of the continuity goes like this: having a *usually* simplistic plot on the surface with some deep rooted secrets hidden underneath that plot for the community to put together. Frights and Tales absolutely do not have that kind of storytelling. Its plot has so much going on and almost nothing is left to the imagination. and like you said, there’s a lot of extra unnecessary steps just to a certain point in the story. But hey if I’m wrong, I’ll be looking forward to seeing the Stan wrong song
The thing about the mimic in the books and the games being the same one, is that in the books the mimic is described as an animatronic spider-ish thing with a foot coming out of its mouth and eyes on its legs. And in the game its just an endoskelton.
It's also described as having rabbit ears, which as we see in ruin they have no rabbit ears, not even any parts in their design that implies or shows that they once had them. The Mimic we see in the game just genuinely never had them.
Thats why im skeptical about most of the mimic centric theorys that people came up with. We really only have one short game appearance of him so far. To assume the game mimic to be the same as book mimic is unlikely to be true. Elements from the book might carry over but it will probably not be exactly the same. Untill a new game comes out that shows more of game mimic i will still be taking most mimic theories with a grain of salt.
@@Gigi4u Agreed, even with all the appearances we have so far it doesn't really add up to say that they are the same mimic from the books, or even burntrap or glitchtrap (somewhat on glitchtrap), things really just don't seem to add up and until we get answers from new games, or from the developers themselves, we can't really say anything for certain.
I still prefer the idea of Fazber frigths (sprry my english), been in universe series of book been comision by Fazber, just like we have a haunted pizzeria in FNAF 3 been run by a small buisnes, so they profit from the urban legends, the wirtters of said books only could have legends and storys, explaing some of the most weird short storys, some are closer than others do to that, wich go with what Scott said, some storys are revelant, some other. This may be the firts step into cleaning the name of Fazber, just like the wanted to do in help wantted, doing "fun" of the past. Pizzaplex can also follow that idea, covering real events with "fake storys" that Kids read, and with changes "we dont have that in the plex! But in this silly books there is one, so dont worry, may be just the Kids been Kids " and thats why the pizzaplex books are more closer to reality than the frigtz.
I agree 100%. I have always thought the titles have shown that. Fazbear "frights" and "tales" from the pizzaplex. So not only are there games but books that were made by Fazbear llc to muddy the true story. I wonder if the movie will also end up as a in universe movie in the games as well. That is why so many things line up, but have weird stories, like fazgoo, that is so ridiculous that it can't be true. So trying to disect what is "real" in the books and what is made up by fazbear.
To expand a bit more on frigts. The stichray character may be Enard, running around, and we have hints of the gang speaking among themself from time to time, any bystander may recount the event as if two personalitys where speaking. Even the random tomato stain on Stich may not be blood (nor tomato), but hot remmenat sticking out, just like multen fredy model, but aja, a bystandr will not have any idea what the fuck is that Elenord? Maybe scrap baby after been ejected doing weird stuff with remmenat (there is a big jump time after all). And ofcurse the writters have no idea like us who this characters are, or when they did what, if they are only going by the storys of the people that where there 30 or so years ago, the event will totally be weird, wrong, maybe close in some regards, and with a diferent interpretation of the "timeline".
Congrats Mr Toast Man, despite trying to not come off as facetious, you sounded INCREDIBLY facetious!! ok in all seriousness i'd like to give my 2 cents on what I believe is the cause of why the fnaf fandom is so trusting, Strap in this is gonna be a long one!! Personally, I believe that this problem stems from the theory culture of the fanbase itself and how bloated the lore has gotten, nobody new coming into the franchise has the mental will or patience to play through EVERY game, read EVERY book and analyse every single teaser or minigame or source code thing that we as a community have spent nearly a decade thumping our heads against. It's just not possible. SO, what do these people do? They turn to community members, notable figures in the fandom that have been around since the beginning, cuaz they think they know all the answers or at least have the best idea because "well this person has been in the fanbase since 2015, SURELY that means they are a trusted source?!" When we have been proven time and time again that its just not. I think the person who responded to your tweets about the talbert situation was trying to express this point. The idea that you can't trust any notable community members with anything, cuz ANYONE could be trying to push an agenda or spread misinformation, in a community that already doesn't have much concrete footing to make ideas off of. Yes, internet safety is important and people should be more aware of trusting people they don't know. but that wasn't the issue. If you actually take a look you can see that a lot of the people upset over the talbert files being debunked, were many older fnaf fans, people who had been around since fnaf 2 & 3, many of them just frustrated and annoyed that they were no closer to solving this decade old mystery. So while I get your point about younger fnaf fans not knowing any better, I feel that is actually missing a large point as to why that whole debacle was as fiery and hurtful to many fnaf fans as it was.
I think in the end, a lot of older fnaf fans (myself included) just want the series to be done with and move on to a new story line, tie a nice bow on things and leave it at that. its also why so many people were frustrated at afton coming back after fnaf 6. It feels like the series is dragging its feet on an arc that should have concluded three seasons ago. But hey, thats just my opinion. A GAME OPINION!! Thanks for reading!
Talking about the internet safety, I totally agree. I think another part of it too is (I’m 30) is the internet is a relatively reliable place for society. Banking is online, shopping is online, job interviews are online. Versus when I was growing up our parents believed anything online was a scam lol this isn’t to say scamming technology isn’t way better now but most of society was just so naive and way less resources. But kids growing up just see everyone use the internet as a resource without question most of the time. That on top of the fact technology makes everyone accessible all the time now leaves a lot of kids vulnerable.
while i do understand the whole internet safety thing about not knowing who you are talking to, the issue is, thats not very different from IRL. you dont know someone just because you've met them face to face. sure there is more space for anonimity online, but theres more than plenty of space for anonimity irl too (and thats not even mentioning that in most cases, the person that harms you is someone close to you) i think its overall more important to know about what you shouldnt say, or alteast the potential consequences of revealing certain things or trusting people on certain topics, more than just "dont trust people" as thats both very vague and easy to ignore. knowing that people dont always have good intrests when engaging with you and what the most common bad intrests are is much more concrete and helpful imo
and actually to double down a little bit, while your PSA was likely well intentioned, the context of it is pretty atrocious. people were shocked that you can't trust some video game nerd about his game facts. this isnt a "someone got hurt by trusting an internet friend and giving info they shouldve kept hidden" this is a "community figures were lying for literally no good reason about something entirely arbitrairy" even the most paranoid of cybersec engineers isnt going to assume some nerd is lying about trivial facts of their little fandom, because even if they are it doesnt matter and it's like the least important place to apply such scrutiny. this isnt comparable to trusting people with private information, and not impactful enough to be meaningful misinformation. this doesnt harm anyone (except for the people who get harrased, but thats very indirect and a fandom problem, not a misinfo problem)
@@Sopsy_HallowI will say that supporters of whoever spread the talbert file stuff eventually devolved into calling Scott a liar and the situation overall wasnt just a simple lie it was a larger misinformation agenda. I think that RyeToast was just going on a tangent about internet safety and young folks in a more general sense.
The 10th anniversary Scott interview revealing that Burntrap was supposed to be a hallucination and not a bossfight could actually imply that he intended for the Frights books to connect to the games, but the miscommunication with Steel Wool threw a wrench in those plans. Also the whole thing about the fandom believing anything that anyone says is ironic considering the media in question is about a guy luring children to their deaths by posing as an entertainer.
I’m glad you are speaking out about stitchline… the implications of Andrew, jake, William exploding in the end, Eleanor in general and so many other things being in the games are so convoluted. Specially the argument for jake being the canon somehow…. It would just be erasing a character we already know exists, it being the vengeful spirit. He’s clearly a stand in for the games vengeful spirit. Just like silver eyes aren’t canon but explain and expand on the series ideas, I see the same for frights. I can’t say that tales is the same, at least not yet, the mimic makes everything confusing lol I’m sure Scott doesn’t wanna speak out neither against nor for the frights canon answers because the fandom is so divided, and he would get backlash either way… it’s best for him and steel wool to just show in games rather than Scott coming out and saying it… the fandom is not mature enough for those things unfortunately
I believe people think Scott will confirm when someone 'solves' FNAF, because... he kinda has a history of sort of doing that. First, I believe it was Fnaf 2, when MatPat made a theory video, and Scott pretty much came out and said "Hey, ya got it like, mostly right". So Scott confirming a theory like that has happened before. Second, Scott has a tendency to try to soft-confirn theories and nudge theorists in the right direction, though usually through the content of the next game he'd post. Like the bite of '87/'83 debate being answered with a keypad in sister location.
Even if you meet someone face to face, they can still be feeding you a curated persona. And people you know can still harm you, ask anyone who has had terrible family or friends. It's just easier for weirdos to be duplicitous online, but people live double lives face-to-face every day. Safety isn't just about _meeting_ people once, it's about being mature enough to understand how to maintain healthy behaviors and boundaries despite outside pressure, and how to recognize people who are trying to control/manipulate you so you can either counter their behavior or avoid them entirely.
Before actually watching the stream, I gotta say, I *hate* the idea of Stitchline. It’s absurd to have two different continuities in one book series, that is downright unfriendly to the reader.
I just wanted to note that FrightsFiction, the theory that the Fazbear Frights books are in-universe books, covers all the problems that the arcade cabinets have pretty easily. Infact, Frights Fiction is such a strong theory, that I've seen people say they don't believe it because it's too easy, like a dream/coma/hallucination theory.
the problem with frights fiction is that with people who are into those books, it makes their lore irrelevant just to be "dumb stories made by fazbear inc"
I think the stitchline stuff is more connected to the novel trilogy than the games. It's too many loopholes to explain why they're in the games currently, and it's more likely that someone could've retrieved william after he gets furnaced in Fourth Closet over getting pulled out of the rubble of pizzeria sim
sorry but if its reveled that she is alive it makes the movie look dumber, literally the protagonists at home just forgets that she exists, the fnaf movie is badly written, PLEASE that the sequel improves on writting
Honestly at this point I just want Scott to confirm if the books are in the same continuity of the games or not, and if they aren't, then what is their purpose? With parallels, we don't learn a whole lot (Mike is not BV, UCN is in Aftons mind, how ghosts kind of work) SW era Fnaf drip feeds us lore, so i doubt those games will tell us anything, ITP Game is a make or break for this entire discourse, but theres always the chance it doesn't add up to anything
I keep coming back to that same question as well: Then what's the point of them? Part of me says they're just for fun to expand the world (and I do enjoy them) but then another part objects that then what Scott said wouldn't be true, or at least not in any meaningful way since we don't know what within them is filling in the blanks and what is just a story. It's like being given a bunch of puzzle pieces (some from unrelated puzzles) and told to pick which pieces go to your current one without giving you a picture to reference. Idc what pieces ultimately fit, I just want to see what the damn thing looks like😭
@Haley_Halo exactly, in my cynical way of thinking I like to think Scott making money from how mysterious this fucking franchise means we will never really get legit answers to questions we've had for 10 years, and if they even are answered, we get another glaring question along with it
@@SammySinner6 Yeah, I don't know how people have handled it for this long. Maybe the Sunk-Cost Fallacy plays a role? It's concerning how trusting people are of getting answers with every game and book but not seeing how little progress we make with them. I wonder if I stepped away for 5 years (popped in occasionally for a movie) whether there would be anything solid yet.
@Haley_Halo considering how slow SW era lore is I doubt you will miss out on much (even standalone the stories aren't all that much) Phone Guy book most likely won't tell us much of anything, and again I already mentioned the issues with the ITP game
@@SammySinner6 True, it's perfectly reasonable to have no more patience or faith that things will make sense and I wouldn't blame anyone for feeling enraged at being led to believe otherwise. It's an unreasonable expectation for fans to keep it alive and thriving with no real end payout.
Really appreciate the brief explanation of why the mimic being in the games isn’t the same thing as the stitchwraith being in the games. It was something I knew but couldn’t articulate well
What about split line games? If the SW games are in a different continuity (as implied in help wanted) and the scott games are in-universe games, it would explain any inconsistencies. Also, the fnaf games exist in the frights world. Maybe henry is just a fictional character that was inspired by Edwin. I genuinely think this is what they were shooting for in help wanted, but maybe they've changed tack since
i think the main reason why the animatronics get simpler as ryetoast mentions at about 26:00, is because of cost of repair and maintenance. The animatronics would be the biggest cost for Fredbears, for simplifying the design would cut down the time and cost of repairs and maintenance.
Theory: what if the books (or at least some of them) were written in universe by fazbear entertainment? Hear me out a sec and bare with a very long rambling paragraph. Think about the names at least: "Fazbear frights" and "TALES" from the Pizzaplex. keep in mind, fazbear frights is the name of the in universe horror attraction based on the rumours about the restaurant. And the word "tale" is another word for "stories" which obviously, they are. HOWEVER stories can be real, based on real events or just Purley fabricated. An example could be the stitchwraith funnily enough. What if the stitchwraith is someone seeing ennard out in the open, but misremembering details and telling a bunch of people about it, which THEN leads to FE making the character 'the stitchwraith'? Like, here's the description (although it may not be 100% accurate due to it coming from a wiki so take this with a grain of salt): "The Stitchwraith is a mysterious figure wearing a hooded coat, it wears a white mask with features drawn on in a thick, black marker (similar to The Marionette or Ennard) Most notably two eyes, one of which appears blackened, and a toothy grin missing a tooth, with something appearing to be stuck between its front teeth. It also appears to have blood around its mouth". How would this line up to Ennard tho? Ennard is a mysterious figure (albeit not wearing a hooded coat unless it stole one), it wears a white mask with features that could be mistaken for drawn on ones, most noticeably two eyes, one of which is half covered by wires (which could be seen as blacked out), a toothy grin, and that 'blood' around its mouth? Possibly molten remnant (as seen on molten Freddy remnant (if that is what it is) is that of a glowing orange to red colour). And the battery on the stitchwraith is in a similar (if not the same place) as Ennard's button on his chest. So that may solve the stitchwraith's appearance. But what about other things? Like the blatant mention of William Afton? Well we know that (if the books ARE indeed written in universe) that springtrap is technically OWNED by the people who own Fazbear's frights. It's their character. And if they have access to files on employees, previous owners, events etc. (which they most likely do considering they have the training tapes for springlock suits), then obviously they would know about William Afton and his horrible actions. Giving them a good antagonist to use for their book series. And if he always comes back, then ending him in the books is a great way to stop people making more rumours and ruining their name more so. And it ALSO may explain the similarities between the description of mimic in the books and burntrap. If fazbear Ent. own the mimic now, and have a rabbit character, they could mash them together to make a NEW one: the mimic. And if someone tries to point out that something is wrong that happened similarly in the books, FE can dismiss them as someone trying to claim the books are real and can basically call them delusional. Is it a 100% perfect solidified theory? No. Does it explain things however? It actually does to an extent. That could also explain book references in the games. If you read this far you either scrolled to the end or have a LOT of patience. So here's a medal 🏅. I got this theory from a RU-vidr called 'sire squwaks' (I'll link the vid if i can find it). But hey! That's just a theory. A GAME THEORY!!!! Edit: also here's the link ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-ERDwo-3nOcs.htmlsi=2zMvs2lwjRefviVD 🟪🟪🟪🟪🟪🟪🟪🟪🟪 🟪🟪🟪🟪🟪🟪🟪🟪🟪 🟪⬛⬛⬜🟪🟪⬛⬛⬜ 🟪🟪🟪🟪🟪🟪🟪🟪🟪 🟪🟪🟪🟪🟪🟪🟪🟪🟪 🟪⬛⬛⬛⬛⬛⬛⬛🟪 🟪🟪⬛⬛⬛⬛⬛🟪🟪 🟪🟪🟪🟪🟪🟪🟪🟪🟪
4:04 At the very least, they exist _as IPs that Fazbear has ownership of._ I think that's an important distinction to make, as Fazbear can make merch and use the likeness of characters that do not physically exist - for instance, if they were original characters made for books. 36:20 Just a neat thing, but another way characters can be foils is if they embody the same traits, but taken in different directions - for instance, one character has lots of willpower that drives them to endure hardships to protect others, while their foil has lots of willpower that drives them to endure hardships and trials in order to improve their own position, at the cost of others.
It’s confirmed that an there are games about Fnaf in fnaf. So I interpreted the arcade machines either as more “indie developer” games, or just other games made about Freddie’s.
@@theaveragecactus I believe they argued that while CC was still in the coma, Afton got him released from the hospital to recover at home, but then 'accidentally' killed him with the Golden Freddie springlock suit. Afton hides the suit + the body, then tells the police that CC has disappeared to make himself look innocent and frame Henry. Basically nobody except Afton knows that CC died at home bc Afton pretends that CC also disappeared.
@@theaveragecactus even then, i do disagree with a couple things they said but there are some ideas that i felt so stupid for not even considering before
I think the community is so willing to believe what they see on the internet mostly because not every single fan has actually read every book, played all the games, some probably havent watched the movie, so everyone is going to trust the people who's basically made a career off of being the ones to give us that information, I dont think thats how it should be but I have also done this as I do not have any of the books, but the way that I have tried to fact check myself is watch a lot of other videos of people talking about them and only believing the information that every single video has sourced, people do need to learn how to actually fact check things on the internet though
I never got the logic of the Michael is Glamrock Freddy theory. Michael was a flesh being that shouldn't have any need to continue on after Henry's speech, so how would he be put into Freddy? It's not like Springtrap or Baby where the body dies in the animatronic or parts of an old suit is put into another; the Glamrocks are made way after the fact and are shown to be learning AI programs.
In the case where Michael possess Glamrock Freddy, if it is actually the case, maybe he's not in full control and just backsitting during the whole time. Maybe he's not even able to do anything or he can slightly influence it. What I'm trying to say is the AI, Glamrock Freddy, is the driver. The AI is too advanced for a spirit to completely control the animatronic. And Michael is just à witness of the whole thing.
I wanna talk about some thoughts I have about the fnaf 2 movie and the toys and stuff. Rye says they think Aunt Jane will bring back the franchise with the toys. I will say I don't mind this concept, but unless I'm forgetting something, the Freddy's franchise never actually "ended" or "shut down" in the movie after the building collapsed. So, who's to say that there weren't more Freddy's restaurants in the movie universe at the time of the first movie's events? I think there were more Freddy's locations that already existed. After all, it seems like it had been a longstanding and beloved franchise in the movie universe. So, I think the toys probably already existed at a different Freddy's somewhere else. This would also make sense if we think about the credits. If what we hear at the end of the credits is what we think it is (the puppet beckoning Mike by spelling out, "come find me"), I think it would be reasonable to assume the puppet is beckoning Mike to this location where the toys are. Also, it would make sense if a location existed with the toys for a very long time before the location we see in the first movie, because that lines up with fnaf 2 being a prequel to fnaf 1 without forcing the second movie to be a prequel. As for Aunt Jane, I think she's dead as fuck. Golden Freddy squad wiped her and emoted on her body, and that's it. I don't think anyone wants her to come back anyway. She was a dick and no one liked her. That was the whole point of her character. A one-time antagonist that's really easy to hate, but exceptionally hard to like because she was intentionally underdeveloped as a character (assuming she was to be used for the sole reason of being the first movie's antagonist). Just something to think about. And I know it sounds like I'm just shitting on Rye's theory and that I think they're stupid for coming up with it, but let me make it very clear that isn't the case. I just have a different view on it that makes a lot more sense to me personally. Maybe I missed some details, especially since it's been a pretty long time since I've seen the movie. I just wanted to leave my thoughts.
Random people who go out and say something: internet safety in effect. People who put a minimum amount of research into something: internet safety in effect, but willing to hear them out. Research staff/people who have been doing the same thing for year after year (perfect example: Game Theory): willing to lend a bit of optimistic trust that they know what they're talking about (even if they end up contradicting themselves with new information). You: somewhere between minimum research and research staff. Every other theorist: internet safety in effect.
I’d love to hear your thoughts on Duel Process Theory’s big lore video they recently posted. You might have already known about it but it’s such a great video that changed my perspective on the pre Help Wanted lore so much. Obviously there’s some issues as all theories do but it’s so interesting and they mentioned you being a great source of inspiration/information while putting it together.
this is going to sound harsh & i'm not trying to be harsh or ableist or condescending, but i like to think a majority of fnaf fans are also neurodiverse. i have autism & adhd, right? & i already struggle to determine whether or not a person is trustworthy irl bc i find red flags harder to spot than most people, & it's the same online, if not worse. a majority of us, myself included, are too trustworthy bc we can't tell otherwise. i think that is also a factor in the whole fnaf tiktok being way too trustworthy too. neurodiverse individuals tend to exist more online bc it's where we feel safe at times & it goes on from there. it's just something to be mindful of too
It might just be that the 'into the pit game' is just a game within the game universe or just a game retelling of the book. Its also the only full sprite art game that is being officially made. So i would count it as a spin off that is related but not in the main line games. I could just be wrong.
I think at some point the stitchwraith stuff was at least intended to be somewhat canon, or the basis for something, simply because the afton amalgamation in the books matches very closely with the design of Afton in the princess quest games, behind the door. and while it could just be a reference, it's a pretty specific one, and then a concept they kind of revisit in security breach with the blob/tangle also being an amalgamation of burnt and damaged electronics and parts I do not think they ended up being canon, and they ended on the cutting room floor, like a lot of things. and considering into the pit game is coming that draws from fazbear frights things, and the two expansion books for it, maybe we'll see if theres things coming into the 'main' canon... even if they're probably going to be a vauge nightmare to dredge through I will also say I do not personally believe the Mimmic in ruin is the same one as the one in the books. I think its the same concept, but I think its doing the annoyingly murky things the books will do were they tell the same concept but in a different way. 'canon, but a different canon'. the mimmic in the books came to the pizza plex from somewhere else, and was in the pizzaplex itself, causing problems there. the mimmic in ruin was trapped in the 2nd secret buried pizzaria, walled in and trying to get out
It may be a huge stretch, but what if Michael's body was used to create Burntrap? I mean...it is a burnt body full of remnant and Michael is known to look like William...Maybe a mistake? Anyway, that was just a random thought, I love your content as usual :D
So to confirm we might have: Illusions Disks Illusion light bulbs Fear Gas AR/VR (since steel wool can't tell those apart) Dreams Indie Dev And now Agony/Remnant That all make anything a character sees or experiences be possibly not real. I wonder why timelines are hard to put together lol
Excluding Silver Eyes Trilogy I believe it’s all in the games, it’s just not all in the games, like, all of that stuff outside of the particular location we’re playing in is happening and it’s not directly influencing our experience… most of the time
IMO fnaf has never been about having a solution like the fnaf community tends to fixate on. I believe fnaf has always been about being solvable with your own preferences and biases. I believe you're meant to be able to have the fnaf story that you like the narrative of the most. I think that's what scott has been trying to say with things like the choose your own adventure thing being cannon. You have the 1/25 ways that you like and you can believe yourself to be right. I believe that's why scott just said "yes" in response to being asked if the books are parallels or directly in game universe.
It blows my mind how often you have to make the "don't take the following as fact" disclaimer. I have never gotten close to angry over a FNAF theory. When I hear a take I disagree with, I listen/reread it again trying to connect my own dots. Evidences they find are still valuable regardless of application.
On the topic of "people just believing things online," I have something else I wat to add: passive consumption of content. This is going to be a bit of an essay, but bear with me. A lot of social media are developing to encourage people to enjoy content passively. It's the shift in youtube from people using the subscriptions page to using the homepage, and it's tiktok and yt shorts giving you one video after the next with no active decision in what to watch next. Algorithms are getting better at giving people things to watch, without engaging in selecting the content, and without engaging in the content itself. Now, consider theorycrafting. It's involved, it takes a lot of thought, and every theory video that you watch, especially in a community like fnaf, should be engaged with actively and critically. But with a growing tendency to engage passively with content, there's a vanishingly small fraction of the community that actually does that with more than half of the videos they watch. It's so much easier to just believe what's being said. This gets compounded by the fact that many people engage with fnaf theories more than fnaf itself. I have never played a fnaf game. Many people watching this video will have played some or all of the games, but never read the books. So when someone appears knowledgeable about the series, it's easy to believe they are because so few people have engaged with as much of fnaf as the big names in the theory scene have. And when you can believe the content creator knows more than you, you're less critical because the source for the information could just be something you haven't heard about. You watch their content passively. On the internet, and in life, it pays to engage with things actively and critically. I may just be a random commentor, and you don't have to take my advice, but your time spent on social media will be more enjoyable (and your time off it more productive) if you actively choose what to give your attention to, and engage with it actively and critically.
You should watch a video by the channel Dual Process Theory. Its a very interesting video for their take on the fnaf timeline and actually has things that so many have missed that make sense when you put them together
Unironically most people who have been arguing about the debate on the side of stitchline have genuinely been rude and ignorant towards others, all because they choose not to believe in stitchline and wish to form their own interpretations. They always push people on theories and say they're wrong because "they haven't read the books" or "you refuse to believe in it because you don't like it" when in reality a lot of stitchline believers are doing those exact things. The people on stitchline like to argue that people who don't believe stitchline are aggressive and reckless, when it genuinely couldn't be further from the truth. Not to say those who don't believe it aren't, some are. However when you look at the picture often it will be people who choose to believe in stitchline rushing in and laying into people about why they're wrong, their theories are wrong, and why stitchline MUST be canon when we don't even have confirmation of it. This community needs to do better genuinely. EDIT: I think something this community needs to know about is the theory of Occam's Razor. Sometimes the simplest solution IS the correct one. I don't think a lot of people are happy that william might be back, but I'd say it's much more likely that william somehow survived the fire, rather than this overly complex side mission on why william must be gone. Also about the mimic's appearance difference between the game and books, I don't think a graphic novel change will explain it more. The graphic novel designs have always been weird or inconsistent compared to the actual design described in the books, especially considering characters like Plushtrap Chaser.
Honestly I feel like they could retcon the toy animatronics. the facial recognition could be explained away by a program updated/added to the existing one. Maybe kids thought the fully robotic plastic looking ones were 'too lifeless' or something so they updated them too be more stuffed animal like.
What do you all think about the theory that one of the fnaf6 posters depicts Heracles hospital? And there’s the Eleanor chamber in fury’s rage. Maybe plushtrap’s hallway is the four closets of the original silver eyes series?
I know we only have one game announced for this year (into the pit), but I almost guarantee we get one for the anniversary and one in december, based entirely on the release schedule for the books/merch.
Yeah, it makes a lot of sense for the books to just be analogous to the games, in order to help solve the story. However, the books are really cool, so I wouldn't mind if they were actually in continuity (I just like the analogs a lot more, and it's a whole lot cleaner).
Our mall here in Ohio has just went 'fu k it' and they just pretty much let everyone have a store. We got a crystal store in the old candy shop. There's a giant store that split itself in 2 one sides a sport store the other is an Amazon resale store. Hot top and round one are probably what are keeping the lights on but they're trying a little bit of everything😂
If sister location is under fnaf6, that would give it a sinkhole to fall into, much less that lake, period- the trees didn't just fall in there :V. We already know fredbear's is connected with it in the breaker room map. And the characters for the toys are older than the animatronics, game-wise, they're actual toys in fnaf4 and on the show cc watches? If we get a sequel with Cassie and she ends up in the testing room, that would be insane.
It really is scary just how little critical thinking people on the Internet use. People are learning what to think through the Internet and others, but not HOW to think. Looking at different points of view, gathering information and only using relevant facts...and as you say yourself, taking ideas with a grain of salt. It doesn't take rocket science to get in on the argument. It just takes a little thoughtfulness.
I was 11 when Covid first hit (I’m 15 going on 16 now) and the lack of media literacy isn’t just in this fanbase. I’m kinda known in my year as the guy who knows stuff about politics and current affairs that isn’t football (or, for you uncultured ruffians across the ocean, soccer. Yes I’m British, no, I’m not an Afton) and the amount of stuff I have to correct that I hear people say that is just blatantly untrue is absurd. For instance, after the Epste*n files were released (censored for RU-vid’s sake), people were genuinely believing all the rumours about Stephen Hawking, a man who has never been accused of anything illegal by anyone to my knowledge, and the only reason he was in the files was Epste*n asking to clear the rumours. Somehow, that morphed into him liking watching young girls solving maths problems while not wearing anything on a blackboard. About 2/3 of my year genuinely believed this- you’ll never guess where they got it from!
could it be possible that the flesh used for burntrap is actually the guy who was obsessed with saving vanessa who mightve died before beating princess quest 4 and the pain and agony/remnant in the body was used to try and simulate a soul in tandem with the glitchtrap virus? Glitchtrap would be the vessel of memory and the agony/remnant would fill in the gaps between memory and free will?
RYE!! there's this new theory out by DualProcessTheory (very new channel) and i think it's really good, i'd love to see you react to it! ive never heard a theory like this before! of course, no pressure i just wanted to put you onto it cuz its really interesting
Maybe it's just cause I'm someone who grew up mostly on the internet and most of my online friends are much more trustworthy than people I know irl or even my family, but I kinda disagree with your point, and also I think the core issue is less that people are trusting others online and more that researching and teaching oneself outside of school is an extremely foreign topic to a lot of kids in the fandom.
I wish people in the fan base where not at each other necks over stitch lines games. Like I personally don't believe in stitch line games however I don't care if you believe in it or not. Like you are allowed to believe in it. I see a lot of people fighting and calling eachother stupid for not agreeing with them and that is stupid over a bear game
Hey rye toast yoy might not see this but I think you should make a video taking about a new time line video made by "Duel Process Theory". It is a take that I have never seen before and would like to know your thoughts on it.
It's such a shame that most people just assimilate to the popular opinion. I think the movie would be dumb to be a sequel, unlike the games plus we would lose sigma afton content like why would they lose that cash grab anyway
I still think stitch wrath is probably in game timeline i know William didn't go into hospital in game but y'know how the books are some things are cannon in the games from the books and then other things aren't
@@gxldfnch Basically He been reading the Books but Rye still believe they are parallel. And everyone getting upset. It like they thought him reading the Fazbear Frights books will turn him into a believer. And now people are saying he just avoiding evidence and facts or he didn't read it right.
