Man i cant believe how clearly Max explains everything. Huge props! Below is a really long tier for tier rant (yapping) of my first tech tree line and my whole journey from a tomato to an experienced player. Im not saying im a unicum or anything near it, but i can say im very proud on what i've achieved. I'd like to say im an average player with an actual brain (which average wot players lack). When i was starting out i just went for the Hetzer as it was a fun tank in the line. It's upper plate was impenetrable back in the day and if you facehugged someone, gold was useless against you. In that era you could oneshot people because tier 4s had little hp, i remember Hetzer having 270 hp. Then i went for Stug and also used a derp gun, it had some armor. Then i went for JgPz IV and that thing had no Alpha and no armor so i was confused. I played like a tomato. When i came to the JPanther i was so happy because it had that massive slope, looked big, meaty and powerful and also had a high alpha gun. I thought it was as armored as Hetzer tier for tier. Oh boy..... how wrong i was! XDDDDD It was a tomato SH*TSHOW for me. Like, i have 296 games in that thing. In Jagdtiger i have 145 because i was actually doing something and was able to quickly research Jageroo (also it was the OLD top of the tree, very shortly before it got nerfed as an event) Jpanther II i bought it and played around 20 games and then i guess i stopped because idk. I was a kid lmao. When i returned like SEVERAL years later, i played it for like 10 more games and was just as clueless, although this tank DID have fine armor. I sold the tank after 30 total games because by this time Ferdinand replaced it and i got researched Jagdtiger for free, i only needed to buy it. And so i did. Jagdtiger.... i guess this is where i STARTED making a transition from a tomato player. When i saw it being labelled as an "assault tank destroyer" i was overjoyed because omg this thing finally has armor but oh BROTHER does it have a horrible platform. Upper plate is a joke, based on a Tiger II except its 10mm thinner, probably even 1-2 degrees weaker slope, it DOES have a massive amount of hitpoints and one of the best guns i've ever seen in the game. It's superstructure actually works.... against standard rounds. Its also PAINFULLY slow compared to JPanther II. Anyway, it took a lot of time to adapt but alas, i only managed to have a mediocre at best performances in it. Finally, i bought the Jagdpanzer E 100. I've watched it be able to just angle and deflect any shots and it also had a powerful alpha damage. First game and i finally felt home for once. Packed with reliable armor, terrifying gun, manageable speed.... just like Hetzer. The meme machine has returned. With this tank, from a crimson red tomato i can proudly announce that i have 2 marked it and have an 8,2k damage record on my account with it. Was able to block 7k damage in it sidescraping against heats for days, got 2 Cool-Headed medals like a gigachad (this one is a miracle feat given how heats or mf Sconq apcrs work against your armor). Also, i managed to get the 2nd Ace mastery medal (3 or 4 aces?). This tank's armor design was MADE for me, i understand it perfectly and can work with it. The gun just listens and always highrolls. It listens so well i even snipe with it when needed (dw, im always near a heavy line, ready to peek and support my heavies, i snipe whenever i dont have anything else to do or we already pushed the flank). The gun very rarely misbehaves but when it does it sends me on a rollercoaster. I once rolled 800 on a 60tp and he rolled a 900 on me like MAN i broke my table almost XD rn 4-5k games arent uncommon for me in my Jagdpanzer, 4k being my standard. Still, i never intend to go for the 3rd mark as simply 2-marking Jageroo got me emotionally drained because forcing consistency and RNG as well as the flow of the game is very toxic for my (or anyone's) mental health. Theres nothing i can do if we win 15-1 because im too slow to chase damage and theres nothing i can do if RNG says no. I've decided to gracefully settle down and be content and proud with my 2nd mark. Sometimes the enemies wont be so aggressive or they will simply melt too fast or i'll simply miss 2-3 shots due to RNG and because of that many random factors i've decided against getting the 3rd MoE. I genuinely find this tank enjoyable and dont wanna feel nothing but frustration and disappointment mixed with a broken heart and sadness because i didnt meet my damage quota for the mark. Overall, this tank has a specific playstyle i cannot really explain in words, its just a sort of "it'd be funny if i did this" kind of playstyle. You take an unexpected first shot, if not given you peek an unexpected corner, shoot someone and retreat right back. Basically this tank's best friend is a corner. Its a real jack in a box type of jumpscare XDDD I personally like sitting back in the heavy line offering support fire against enemies who push my allies because if they see my presence, they wont dare push. It mostly works very well! Im close but far enough to not be spotted or just hidden in cover. A bush works but the rock is better because i can just come out, obliterate and return to safety. Wanna say this line was a real roller coaster given how u go from high alpha + armor and aggressive playstyle to dpm + 0 armor and a passive playstyle to high alpha + armor and a balanced playstyle once again in the very end. In the very end the journey turns out alright. And i'd not have achieved most of these feats if it wasnt for Max's guide for Jagdpanzer, especially the reverse field mod. Its especially good for my playstyle, peek, shoot, return to cover asap lmao As a closing message, i just wanted to say that i intend to revisit this tech tree and give justice to the tanks i played like sh*t lmao. My main tanks i will rebuy and keep will be JPanther II (i think its a very good tank!) and the Jagdtiger simply because i made it my duty to make it work. It does have a high hp pool and a heavenly gun and idc i'll make it work now that im no longer a tomato (my recent Jageroo stats are actually almost purple). Jagdtiger left a bitter taste in my mouth mixed with disappointment and shame so i intend to change that.
When you nerf the trademark gun feature of the tank to the point where people just use it "stock" gun, you know you've messed up. This is like if batchat had a single shot gun. You would be crazy if you used the clipper XD
I'm at the T9 atm, but honestly I've been enjoying the auto-loader simply for the 900ish burst damage you can put out. DPM really isn't everything if you have to keep poking to maintain it.
@@SilentWoof I'm in a similar spot too, the double shot gun is great because you have that great mobility. It means that you can aim fully if you want to, but you can also shoot on its intraclip. For both the tier 8 and 9, sure the doubles aren't the ideal gun choice, but they are very fun to play.
My first line was 277 and, I gotta admit, vz55 on paper looks way way better than 277... No derpy gun, more hull armor, slightly slower and slightly bigger turret cupola but gun and dpm are way better than on 277.
I’ve been playing a lot with the single shot; it’s super comfortable with the soft stats. It’s like the IS-7 gun but better. I didn't think most of the stats to be nerfed when they did, it was the intro-clip reload that was the main thing and not the full reload and aiming time.
The other issue in going from a medium to heavy that late in the line is shifting crew skills from the typical medium loadout to the typical heavy loadout. I never liked how WG handled crews, especially when they increased or decreased in number throughout the line, or weren't consistent on which of the 3 or 4 member crews took over the missing crew member roles. The full version of Crew 2.0 would have addressed all of that, but the community didn't want it.
hee, You are the first CC that says the single shot gun is better after the nerfs. I agree, i have felt that way too after the nerfs. T8 was always better with the single shot, but now they all are. good video, as always.
I was grinding the Kran and it got nerfed , your video said the VZ55 was good so I did the grind to that and about a week before I got it, it also got nerfed, so now I’ve been playing all the lines especially when they are on top of the tree👍
Pro tip, choose a tank that not only suvks but that you hate. You will end up being quite good not inly in it but in others too. I did so with the ozVIII and boy is it a monster now
For some reason i liked the nerf, i would only hit one 1 out of 2 with the previous clip, but with the nerf i am hitting the 2nd shot a lot more, its upper hull is trollish too, for me its still one the best heavy tanks
imo the tank is fine, it is still good, just not as fun to play as it was before, I maintain 60% WR with it even after nerf I run hardening, turbo and improved VSTAB on all maps, 1, 2, 2,2,2 field mods, 2.42 aiming time, dont have problems with connecting shots nor with accuracy (0.35) I try to fight within 300 meters range, my biggest issue with the tank is bad pen on APCRs ...306 is meh and holds u back...
Vz44 with HEAT is the best tier to tier for me compared to all other in the line that can reliably pen super heavies. And the game is just heavy meta right now. I am doing 1700 average damage in tier 7,8,9 all the way until I start to use single loading gun on tier 9.
I haven't played this since the nerf, and from what I have seen in the matchmaker recently, even "Top of the Tree" isn't tempting that many people out either!
I'm not gonna write an essay about the VZ, because I used to love it and now its just meh, I've always played it with the single shot even before the nerfs, not because I disliked the double shot but because firing two shots and half the time one of them doesnt pen or just misses, and then having to sit there and wait 20 seconds doing nothing, no thanks, but the only thing I gotta say, and this was my thought back then and it is now, even tho the single shot is now a better option, if you gonna use the single shot you might aswell play the 277, or the IS-7, because at least those tanks don't have 3 weakspots on the turret
The fact that Škoda T56 is the only viable double shot vehicle now is so wargaming. (two shot guns on Tech tree vehicles and one on skoda t56 feel different tho)
Checking side by side in game the single shot gun is clearly better than the 277 and 5A, check em, 2738 dpm vs 2453 and 2738, then dispersion .33 vs .36 and .37 (these are base numbers no eq) aim time 2.21 vs 2.59 vs 2.4, Depression makes it stand out in that it is -8 vs -5.5 vs -7 277 has one advantage the turret speed is 26.67 vs (28.16) vs 27.12 277 is faster by 5 MPH and best in specific power at 17.27 5a wins in traverse with 3 more than 55/277 Everything else is fairly comparable. Guess it just comes down to what you want to run. Hipsters might have the 55 after the event. You can use the turret better Seemingly but flat turret makes that cupola pretty easy to see. Still worth it IMO especially while on a top of the tree, and remember that which gets nerfed gets buffed again, usually at least by half the measure it was nerfed hopefully.
Before nerf, tier 10 was stupidly op due to punishment factor (and had best stats out of tech tree heavies). Now it's ok-ish. Tier 8 and 9 are bad with 2shot guns, however I liked tier 9 with normal gun. WG should make tier 8 and 9 clippers better (accuracy and aiming time) to make them competitive vs single shot gun (burst vs dpm) - I don't remember what and why those tiers were nerfed. Tier 10 is the only one on which I prefer clipper. Oh, and tier 8 is laughing stock when we notice the premium skoda T56 - tank which could be tier 10 if we upscale some numbers like hp and penetration.
I just unlocked the VZ 55 and I am rather disappointed after playing it for a while. Even though the 2.5 sec intra-clip reload may not seem like much, it does show in actual battle when I could have double clipped a tank but could not as I am still loading for the second shot. Also, the 306 pen on the premium round does not cut it in many situations, when many other tier 10s have 340 pen. The gun handling on the two-shot gun is also awful. On the other hand, the Skoda T25 is an absolute joy to play. I regret grinding this line except for the T25. I should have gone for the E5 instead. Alas, if only your video had come out before I started grinding this line lol!
Did you try play the autoloaders with both vert stab and rotation mechanism? Because dispersion is in my opinion not that important of a stat. (To a degree)
Thanks Video (I Think) Why should anyone grind this line if there is a better tank ? I'd say because its not always being the best.. Its the challenge to your self, can you still win or do good while playing a "Subpar" tank ? Can you beat the Best tank in game with a tank that's half as good ? If we played under your reasoning All you have to do is get the Best Heavy/Medium/Light/TD/ and Arty if that's your thing and maybe a couple OP Premium's *Cough BZ 176 Cough Chieftain* And about half the battle is won...Because no matter how good the Tank is if you don't know what your doing or how tp play/adjust position/learn armor-week spots Then having the Best Tank wont help ya much ? I'd say on the VZ55 I've "maybe" fought 1 or 2 using the Single shot *shrug* So I'd guess its about the Burst Damage and Not DPM ? And going down every line (sooner or later) offers Variety and a New Challenge, Something to push and test yourself No? And last thought... DPM is a illusion It helps in "Some" circumstances, Not enough to stress over.... Test yourself and see :) Pick 100 games from your replay files then sort out the TOP 5 or 10 find the scores that are really Good like 8k-10k Then divide your High Score by how long the game lasted then look at the tanks DPM And show even 1 game that even came close to the DPM listed ?? If you could find even 1 that was "close" It might be as rare and a Lottery win :) Thanks Again for the Video !! I've completed the Medium line to tier 10 and just starting the Heavy Line :) and in a few/couple Days there will be a new Light tank line *sigh*
I strongly disagree with Max on using single shooters. Yeap, they kinda killed tier 9 (which was actually balanced fire-power-wise, its' turret was the problem to deal with), but vz55 is still strong at tier 10 with an auto-loader. It was OP with a 20 second reload for 1000 dmg and 2 second intraclip, now it is 22.4 and 2.5 which is still insane for a 1000 dmg, plus, unless you are picking a terrain resistance field mod (the first one on the left) you will hardly every reach 59 km per hour. So, it is better to pick the right 4th mod and boost your aiming time. Besides, vz has very nice base stabilization, so with a bounty stab you get 0.11-0.12, which is close to cent AX/m48/m60 0.10 thus making your aiming time sorta irrelevant. With a single shooter vz is just a copycat of 277 or wz-5a without 340 heat pen. You can use it, sure, but I honestly don't see the point
Forget when I realized it, but I too switch to the single shot. I find I do better instead of using auto-loaders in general, AND the DPM is better.. which is weird. The other day I did dust off the Prem Skoda, and still do pretty good in it, but the 9 & 10 are set to single-shots 😉 Forget when.. but I got this tonk... never knew about the nerf, but shows you how much I play the Vz.. BUT I have too many tanks to give them all the luv they need. Haven't looked in forever, but I seemed to amassed 280 tonks... not including Rentals, which make it 328 😮😮 Thanks for sharing, Max o7
Thanks! I was thinking about spending free xp to get the Vz 55 because of the TotT discounts (and also I think I have way too much free xp). So for me it's more of a question whether is the tank worth the free xp. I still have couple of days to decide. Speaking of which, I think it would be more beneficial if you could make videos like this when the TotT starts. So players can skip the grind right away if the line is trash. And finally random WoT language fact: "Kolohousenka" means something like "Wheeled Caterpillar". Maybe it should be in the line with the other insects like Grille (Cricket) and Hummel (Bumblebee). And BTW Hummel is the reason I know stuff like this - a friend once told me what it meant and then I started to translate stuff.
I grinded this one a while ago and I wondered about the double shot - it just felt weird in the Tier X matches. It seems not to work and good to hear from you, that I should really try the single shot... but you are right - then the tank is... "meh" in comparison. I want the double thingy like in a Borat. There it is fine. but VZ, nah. Well played Wargaming!
This tank is not for the average players and that's it, a 277 is better overall for the average players, but any tank becomes very good in expericed hands and that's all to say, i play vz55,277 and 5A, all of them are good but i do the most in the vz, 5k 6k battles are easier to do with the vz for me
@@danilojasovic4800 totally agree, there are tanks for normal players, and tanks for good or very good players, 277, vz55, kran, fv215b i think is the heavy one, and so on
It's sad to see how far the Vz has fallen.... For the time being, I am still playing it with the double tapping but having seen this and looking at the gun stats again, I'm probably gonna switch back to the single shot to see what its like. It's a real damn shame since this is my most played heavy tank and I loved the double shot, but since the intraclip reload nerf and all that its been less enjoyable. Sure I can poke out and blast someone for almost 1k hp, but that extra half second does cost at times....
Well the tank still does 980 damage in 2.5 seconds. That makes it worth playing at least for me 🤷♂️ but I completely understand everything said here and it’s all fair
Thx, guess I will shelf this grind until WG make it more interesting. Which is good, because I can focus on other lines and tanks. And just for feedback, I appreciate the way you explain the who, why, etc, giving good context to your opinions.
I have the VZ 55 and its awesome but you are a Support Heavy Tank and does allot of damage and you will block allot from Mediums and light and if angled right Heavies. I highly Recommend this tank
I will say … if the next season of clan wars is like maneuvers .. it’s nice to have kinda redundant tanks since If you lose game or die In that format then you need another tank
not 100% my game play the Vz55. but in platoon with my mate with 2 Rino's was not ideal. now i take the Vz in combination with the rino. and we do great ! i have fun with it now
my tip for these heavies at tier 8-10=vent,stab,firecontrol and single shot gun and you get very good gun and also use speed lowering fieldmod,then you go 46km/h and in my opinion its enough
The nerf these tanks got is nothing compared to what they did to kran line and atleast if you cant play autoloaders with low dpm you have an option of a single shot gun unlike the 750 dpm kranvagn with its 1 out of 3 hit ratio gun.
Housenka is AWESOME! It makes me laugh so hard, every time I play it. (ok I don't play it nearly enough) Also, I grinded the tier 9 Vz51. (F2P account). Meh Wish I'd seen your video before I put the T2 as commander in the Vz51.
Might just pick up the Vz 44 1 and that will be it, seems like Wargaming messed up with nerfing the gun that made the high tiers of this line stand out
i would like you do to this but for the 60TP. im curious but i finished this line the other day and im enjoying the vz.55 but..vz.51 feels..to say the least. (ew) sometimes haha but honestly. this whole line. i wanted the autoloader to be good and used it some what in tier 8 or 9 but it wasnt good enough oor stable in most games. sad they took that aspect of the tech tree..making it something worth.. good video though
I don't know about you but I prefer single shot vz 55 over obj 277 for less derpy gun, granted not having 340 heat might hurt sometimes but shots that make me question if I'm playing arty with double shot or 277 is kind of bad too to be honest.
If you're noob, sure, don't even think about this line. For average and good players it's actually not bad at all. Tier 8 double shot sucks ass, but the single shot 105mm is really nice. I don't agree at all about tier 9 double shot talk. The gun feels nice to use, and it's not always about the DPM. The same story applies for the tier 10. I don't think that you're right about the stats you're pointing out. Take this, Škoda T56 checks every box you called bad about tier 9 and 10, it's got shit accuracy (0.37 with good equipment), bad DPM compared to other tier 8 meta heavies, etc. Yet it's one of the most OP tanks in the game. Let that sink in. Tier 9 gets similar gun stats to Škoda T56, true, but gets much better mobility in exchange. Not every tank and line has to be compared to meta, and like you said, single shot guns take the character out of the line, so what's the point then?
Yeah I agree completely. I used to play single shot (and its deffo a good option now) but lately I switched to the double again and that 20 sec reload isn't that long. For example couple seconds before u go unspotted, and then a bit of relocating/aiming and ur ready again to do 1k instead of 500. But to be fair I prolly have more games in autoloaders than normal tanks, most of which are small clips/short reload ones so you could say I know what im doing. Autoloaders aren't for everyone tho.
@@jaron4459 yeah it takes a little bit of practice to shoot your clip, retreat and plan the next move. Although I started playing autoloaders recently (6 months or so), Czech heavies are by far the easiest to learn and adapt to, and not nearly as hard and demanding as your regular autoloaders (50B, T57 etc.)
I mean the Tier 9 has the same reload time as Emil 2 (which is around 28 seconds, but only 2 shells compare to 3 btw) while both tanks for some reasons love to miss bounce at least one shell. The double shot feels like a single shot gun with 28 seconds and 0 accuracy
@danilojasovic4800 I mean especially if u compare them to other T10 heavy tanks like 50B, vz is easy yes xd. I never made 50B work but last month I played it a bit and got the hang of it. Very difficult tank. 3 mark requirements are insane tho :(. Higher than vz.
i do agree with you a lot in the video. i would not recommend this line to my friends. for me the armor experience feels weak. you have to be a o.k or better player to make it work.
With TNH T Vz. 51 you do realize that by the time you can shoot 3 times with the one shot gun, you'll shoot 4 times with the autoloader..? The line should be 2 shot autoreloader that could make it playable.... In Blitz it's getting autoreloader next update 😂
2 observations. Firstly, you should not say -x gun depression, just x gun depression. The minus isn't supposed to pe pronounced. Secondly, at least the tier 5, from my experience with it, this tank is a pretty insane sniper for its tier. 185 pen is wild And holy f*ck. Now that I have watched the vid, I am shocked at your first 5 shots. All of them were close to 500 damage and 2 of them were 525 approximately. That was some insane rng Nvm. I am dumb. I forgot the base alpha damage of the VZ55 as I have not reached tier 10, stopped at 9 post nerf
just wondering why you've released this video when the top of the tree will end in 6 days, good thing i already had the vz 55 and honestly its still a good tank, 1000 dmg in 2.5 seconds. My personal dmg record of 7.4k was achieved on the asian server in this tank. Respectfully i don't think any autoloading tank is about dpm, except the t57 heavy
Am I crazy for having fun in THN 105 with autoloader? It legit was pretty accurate in around 50 battles I played with it, so much so I would expect Leo 1 accuracy from the single shooter. I wasn't getting crazy scores but the fun factor was really there, In fact it was nearly as much fun as I'm having with something like Tiger 1 which is an actually great tank. VZ.51 was god awful and I couldn't hit a single thing, with single shooter too. I got 1 MOE on each tank in the line while griding apart of VZ.51 cause it was that awful. And afterall VZ.55 itself is really nice to use when you can make it work. It's all about fun factor, and it still has potential to do great things.
tier 8 is ok with auto-loader, the biggest problem it has is poor stabilization 0.21 or 0.22, both tier 9 and 10 have 0.16 base one. I see no point in playing tnh 105 with a single shooter, like what's the point? If you wanna good 320 single shooter take vk, 110, t32, vk and 110 have almost 3000 dpm at tier 8, t32 is one if not the best heavy at tier 8
@@shark_de_mique Truly. As I said it's all about fun factor. Knowing that the tank is like at least tier lower compared to Skoda T56 you just stop caring and start having fun with what you have.
Wait so vz55 got nerfed, 277 is bad, m4 54 got nerfed, sconq got nerfed, kranvagn got nerfed... What even is a competitive heavy anymore? I dont like 60tp because of the whole tech tree, ammo rack and derpy gun. I am on maxed conqueror right now and sometimes its really frustrating when tier 8s load gold and bully you through the mantlet or the roof. If thats also the case with tier 10 please tell me now so I can sell this garbage. I sold m4 54 because I was constantly being hit into cupolas or even worse through mantlet with gold, I heard sconq doesnt have those issues but it seems otherwise.
Tbf both M4 and vz55 tankers only know how to play with gold, so gold is what you get. I have a set of tanks I will always shoot gold at no matter how good or bad the player is, I only shoot HE to squishy tanks though.
It sounds like you're not skilled enough, but seriously, not trying to mock you. With heavies that have big cupolas (vz, amx m4, e5 etc.) you're not supposed to stand still in front of the enemy for any longer than what is needed to shoot them. If you really have no other option, then you must move both hull and turret as much as possible during reload. And to answer your question, S. Conqueror's commander's hatch is much more angled, hence tougher, that the tier 9.
@@danilojasovic4800 I mean I did get 1st mark of excellence on Conqueror in less than 50-100 battles but your description is exactly what I am having issues with. If I start to wiggle front and back, every time I do so my cupolas (both on AMX and Conq) will be even more exposed. I have a feeling AMX is more armored and faster than Conq but also has weaker turret so Im not sure. My ideal tank would be m4 54 with small gun but then people say better play Sconq if you like the small gun so im not sure anymore. My biggest problem with this game is not understanding armor, because if im in a udes 15/16 I think hoho sloped armor they gon bounce and sometimes even
Second line support, not brawling. You go with your heavies, wait for enemies to shoot them, dump 1k dmg in their face and retreat for 25 seconds. If that's not the option, you go bully mediums, you got enough speed for that too.
Tier VII is okay tier VIII nothing special worse than Škoda premium a lot single shoot gun is better in my opinion tier IX great and tier X before nerfs my favourite tier X heavy but its still strong and in meta today its worth grinding.
Nope with nearly 700 possible tanks in the game. Why grind a new tank to play on the same linear do the exact same thing every game maps. Better MAPS better GAMES better GAME.
I would not Start on the Czech Line... When Asked, My Recommendations are always the Same, Start with the IS7 Line, do the 277 Line after that, and Finish it Up with the 705A Line... I suggest this because the 3 Lines Combined will Teach you most Everything you need to Know of the Games Basics as well as the Variations in the 3 Distinct Styles of Heavy Game Play from Basic Heavy, to Heavium, to Super Heavy... It also is an Economical Line with all 3 Lines Unlocking Modules in the other 2 Lines saving you a lot of Time and Credits thru the Grinds and you get 3 Tier 10's in Short Order.... The Next Lines I'd generally Suggest would be the Italians, because I think they're Pretty Well Balanced Overall, or the German Heavies for the Same Reason as the Russian Heavies... The Russian Lines are just more User Friendly I feel than the German Lines.... The Czech Line, like some of the others, is a Convoluted Mess of Mismatched Crews, Modules, and Play Styles... There is almost No Crossover in Modules... I've Stalled at the 44/1, and I have the Same Issues with the Polish Lines... You also don't have a Good Supply of Premium Crew Training Tanks either, making what you Drive your only Source of XP for the Crews... And THAT Gets Expensive...
2:30 Skoda t24 is the worst medium tier 5, you clearly haven't played nor looked at it's stats, beacuse everything you just said about this tank is incorrect. This tank got the worst gun from every other tier 5 medium or even tier 4!!! The main of reason is beacuse of the DPM or I should say, the lack of DPM, beacuse this tier 5 medium got 1100 DPM, while dealing 110 damage per shot. Even light tanks will kill you with ease, beacuse most of them got 2000 DPM while dealing less damage but still, it's way too much diffrence. Keep in mind there are also many derp guns that can kill you in 1 or 2 shots, and don't get me started on the DPM diffrence here. Ok, so this tank got no DPM, so maybe it got good penetration as you said? T-34 got a 57mm gun with 189 mm of gold penetration, having also better accuracy with 2x better DPM (1200 diffrence). And if you are wondering about the accuracy, it's as bad as the other tier 5 mediums, nothing to say here. Survivability is the worst, you are just a big box with less than 30mm of armor, so derp guns can penetrate you without a problem. Mobility is actually the best from every other mediums, but light tanks outclass you in this regard while most of them have better survivability with firepower, so this tank is just USELESS. To summarise: this tank is the worst tier 5 vehicle (for tech tree vehicles), there's just no place for opinions here. It's reload time is a bug that wasn't fixed for waaaay too long, it needs to be atleast 4,5 seconds.
??? Weakspots knowledge was removed after introduction of penetration indicator, so it doesn't matter if you've got an super test vehicle, everyone will just wiggle their mouse, until their spot a green spot. Also if the tank is good, then what's the point of playing the bad tank? Didn't you think about that? Look at the pre-nerf Kranvagn, and at the t57 Heavy, it's clear that Kranvagn wins in almost every category, so there's no point of playing the american counterpart.
